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Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: cdn_wiseguy] #902263
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"Raynald Desjardins was major headache for Correctional Service Canada in past"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...canada-in-past/

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: dixiemafia] #902264
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia


But that story was the first time I seen any mention of him having "bad health". I wonder what is up?


It was mentioned before he has multiple sclerosis.


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Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: cdn_wiseguy] #902279
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Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
"no wonder there are so many murderers there", lol. What are you talking about?

Light sentence, yes. But not sure what your next point is supposed to mean.



Is this serious?

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: Wilson101] #902315
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The other six accomplices, who appeared before a judge this morning, will have to wait till February 22, 2017, to be sentenced.

"Mafia : peine reportée pour les 6 complices de Desjardins"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/20/mafia-peine-reportee-pour-les-6-complices-de-desjardins

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: Wilson101] #902317
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It's all good, don't worry about it. I should have realized you were joking VegasMikey... I got a good laugh at your comment though

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: Hollander] #902324
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
It was mentioned before he has multiple sclerosis.


I guess I missed that, thanks

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: antimafia] #902337
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That disease comes on fast and being in jail with out the best health care probaly a death sentence. Buy the time he gets out he'll be a shell of his old self. With all his friends and brother inlaw dead its probaly over for him.

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Montagna [Re: antimafia] #902348
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Raynald's associate and construction boss Jocelyn Dupuis regains his freedom.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/19/jocelyn-dupuis-recouvre-sa-liberte


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Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: cdn_wiseguy] #902379
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Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
It's all good, don't worry about it. I should have realized you were joking VegasMikey... I got a good laugh at your comment though
theres like 100 times more LCN related murders in Canada when compared to the US. Are u brain damaged or French Canadian? Possibly both?

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: Wilson101] #902402
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Easy VegasMikey,

your post was so vague. "No wonder there are so many murderers there". Wasn't sure if you were talking about murders in general, which your post implies. Because that couldn't be further from the truth. Even though sentences are so light in Canada, the numbers of murders in general are astronomically higher in the U.S. per capita.

Even though you finally clarified you were talking about LCN murders, your comment still makes no sense. This next part will probably be over your head, but you are making a connection between sentences and the amount of murders in the LCN, by saying that short sentences equals more murders. Yet across Canada there are way less murders per capita, with LCN murders simply being an exception to the rule. Statistics would suggest the reason for LCN murders being higher is something else. There are a couple of things that could be.

And I simply asked in my original response what you were talking about to give you the chance to elaborate...

I love how worked up you are getting though.

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: pmac] #902453
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Originally Posted By: pmac
That disease comes on fast and being in jail with out the best health care probaly a death sentence. Buy the time he gets out he'll be a shell of his old self. With all his friends and brother inlaw dead its probaly over for him.


He's got enough money I'm sure he can get outside visits for a huge fee. There is no telling about Canada!

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: dixiemafia] #902674
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That disease comes on fast and being in jail with out the best health care probaly a death sentence. Buy the time he gets out he'll be a shell of his old self. With all his friends and brother inlaw dead its probaly over for him.


He's got enough money I'm sure he can get outside visits for a huge fee. There is no telling about Canada!


It's a fuckin disease, he takes four or five medicines a day to slow down the progress. Eventually he will end up in a wheelchair.


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Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: Hollander] #902723
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
It's a fuckin disease, he takes four or five medicines a day to slow down the progress. Eventually he will end up in a wheelchair.



No shit, ya really say? I had no idea what MS is even though I have a close family member with it. Not all end up in wheelchairs either so that's no guarantee.

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: dixiemafia] #902728
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
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It's a fuckin disease, he takes four or five medicines a day to slow down the progress. Eventually he will end up in a wheelchair.



No shit, ya really say? I had no idea what MS is even though I have a close family member with it. Not all end up in wheelchairs either so that's no guarantee.


There are many variations of MS, Ray has breathing problems and uses a device.


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Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: antimafia] #902733
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Just like my cousins affects her walking and nerve pain. It definitely attacks everyone differently.

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Mont [Re: dixiemafia] #907207
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"Meurtre d'un aspirant parrain: les complices du caïd Desjardins seront fixés en juin"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...t-fixes-en-juin

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Montagna [Re: antimafia] #909070
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
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Link: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...rticle29204759/

RCMP fight to keep lid on high-tech investigation tool
BY COLIN FREEZE, MATTHEW BRAGA AND LES PERREAUX

MONTREAL — The Globe and Mail

Published Sunday, Mar. 13, 2016 9:53PM EDT
Last updated Sunday, Mar. 13, 2016 10:06PM EDT

From the article:

Between 2010 and 2012, detectives in RCMP “Project Clemenza” used a high-tech device to eavesdrop on a group of reputed mafia members who were sending each other encrypted messages on BlackBerry phones. Police believed the suspects were out to settle scores during the power vacuum that had emerged after the jailing of mob boss Vito Rizzuto.

On Nov. 24, 2011, a New Yorker named Salvatore (Sal the Ironworker) Montagna was shot dead on the outskirts of Montreal. Fearing more bloodletting was imminent, an RCMP-led team divulged its ongoing operation to local police, so they could make arrests in that gangland slaying....


VICE News and Motherboard did a joint investigation in relation to this particular topic. Below are links to items published online today:

https://news.vice.com/article/exclusive-canada-police-obtained-blackberrys-global-decryption-key-how

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/rcmp-blackberry-project-clemenza-global-encryption-key-canada?=dgd


"Montreal Mafia: Stayed charges raise questions of privacy, trust in justice system"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...justice-system/

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Montagna [Re: antimafia] #915641
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"Mafia montréalaise: un an et demi avant de recevoir leurs peines"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06...ir-leurs-peines

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Montagna [Re: antimafia] #915659
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
"Mafia montréalaise: un an et demi avant de recevoir leurs peines"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06...ir-leurs-peines


Below is a link to an English-language article.

"Sentencing in murder of Mafioso Salvatore Montagna delayed"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ntagna-delayed/

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
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"Mafia montréalaise: un an et demi avant de recevoir leurs peines"

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/06...ir-leurs-peines


Below is a link to an English-language article.

"Sentencing in murder of Mafioso Salvatore Montagna delayed"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ntagna-delayed/


Linking to another French-language article:

"Meurtre de Salvatore Montagna: la sentence encore reportée"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...re-reportee.php
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In this article, Daniel Renaud theorizes in one part that the attempted murder of Desjardins in September 2011 did not come from Montagna's camp but from the pro-Rizzuto faction.

Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Montagna [Re: antimafia] #915702
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Keep stalling, they are getting those extra days like Desjardins did before he was sentenced. They are loving this.

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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Keep stalling, they are getting those extra days like Desjardins did before he was sentenced. They are loving this.


What's the difference between being incarcerated and being incarcerated?

Could this become a candidate for longest trial in history?


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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
What's the difference between being incarcerated and being incarcerated?

Could this become a candidate for longest trial in history?


Because they are behind bars safe while there is a war at hand and the fact that the more days they spend behind bars now gets them out earlier once sentenced. Makes a big difference.

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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
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What's the difference between being incarcerated and being incarcerated?

Could this become a candidate for longest trial in history?


Because they are behind bars safe while there is a war at hand and the fact that the more days they spend behind bars now gets them out earlier once sentenced. Makes a big difference.


First argument makes sense, second one I'm not sure because in the end they've served the same amount of time if I'm not mistaken.


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No they don't get the same amount of time. They get 1.5 days for every 1 day they serve behind bars. The judge cannot take that into account and sentences them to what they would get anyways.

Desjardins was sentenced to 14 years. He already spent close to 5 years behind bars netting (365 days times 5 = 1,825 days times 1.5 per day = 2,737.5 total days) himself 7.5 years behind bars when he spent only 5 years behind bars. That leaves him with 6.5 years left compared to 9 more years if the 1.5 wasn't factored in.

So all said and done he's serving 11.5 years of a 14 year sentence. So no, it's not the same amount of time.

The others are gaining those days as well and I'm betting they don't get the same sentence Desjardins got either.

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You're right dixie, should be interesting when Ray gets out. grin

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Meurtre d'un mafioso: la patience d'un juge atteint ses limites

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/09...int-ses-limites

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Meurtre d'un mafioso: la patience d'un juge atteint ses limites

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/09...int-ses-limites


Sentencing delayed — 'for the last time' — in Mafioso murder case

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...so-murder-case/

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Re: Raynald Desjardins arrested for murder of Montagna [Re: antimafia] #919823
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Between seven and 10 years for murder conspiracy, no wonder they kill each other over there.


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