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The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? #609614
08/02/11 10:47 AM
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Anyone have thoughts on the current state of the family? They got broken up in a big way a decade ago after Vinny Ocean flipped, but they seem to have re-built somewhat. I have seen estimates of 40+ made guys (though there hardly reliable). Acting boss is listed as Francesco Guaracci and underboss is reputed to be Joseph Miranda. A story circulating on some sites (including the notoriously unreliable wikipedia) is that 12 guys have been made over the last few years which seems a bit far-fetched. Any NJ guys on here have an inside scoop?

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #609674
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Definitely far downhill since Ralphie Guarino, but judging by how a handul of guys in places like LA and KC refuse to give up the ghost, one would have to assume there's still a few years left in the Family.


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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #609687
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Bah! You gotta wonder how these Wiki-authors would even know when a mob family had making ceremonies and how many guys were made. And if they were in a position to know, they wouldn't be announcing it on the internet to begin with. There are so many bullshit artists on the net, it's sickening. When it comes to organized crime, unless there are linked sources, Wikipedia will usually steer you wrong.

For now, the DeCavalcantes are still considered one of the few viable families remaining outside New York. They still have 40-50 total members, which would make them comparable to New England, Philadelphia, or Chicago. But you have to wonder just how much damage the big indictments in the late 1990's and early 2000's did to them. Judging by the lack of cases over the past decade, it looks like a lot. In 2003 you had 3 Decavalcante guys busted for bookmaking and loansharking. In 2006 the family's cash cow, Laborers Local 394, was put under federal trusteeship. In 2010 you had acting boss Frank Guaracci and 2 other guys busted for extorting a pizza shop. Then earlier this year 2 other guys were busted for contraband cigarettes, stolen tax refund checks, and loansharking. Only time will ultimately tell but it looks like they could be the next family to cross that line from "viable" to "not viable."


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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: IvyLeague] #609696
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[quote=IvyLeague]Bah! You gotta wonder how these Wiki-authors would even know when a mob family had making ceremonies and how many guys were made...When it comes to organized crime, unless there are linked sources, Wikipedia will usually steer you wrong.
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True that. Unless it got a little citation at the end of it with a link you can follow through to a reputable source, dont believe it. And whoever posted that gushing description of Salvie Testa on there is just creepy.


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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #683147
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John riggi's been released haven't heard much so far

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #683279
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There are to many "opportunties" in NJ for them not be in business and maybe even growing...It would be interesting to know if Riggi has had many "visitor's" since his release...


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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: IvyLeague] #761725
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Bah! You gotta wonder how these Wiki-authors would even know when a mob family had making ceremonies and how many guys were made. And if they were in a position to know, they wouldn't be announcing it on the internet to begin with. There are so many bullshit artists on the net, it's sickening. When it comes to organized crime, unless there are linked sources, Wikipedia will usually steer you wrong.

For now, the DeCavalcantes are still considered one of the few viable families remaining outside New York. They still have 40-50 total members, which would make them comparable to New England, Philadelphia, or Chicago. But you have to wonder just how much damage the big indictments in the late 1990's and early 2000's did to them. Judging by the lack of cases over the past decade, it looks like a lot. In 2003 you had 3 Decavalcante guys busted for bookmaking and loansharking. In 2006 the family's cash cow, Laborers Local 394, was put under federal trusteeship. In 2010 you had acting boss Frank Guaracci and 2 other guys busted for extorting a pizza shop. Then earlier this year 2 other guys were busted for contraband cigarettes, stolen tax refund checks, and loansharking. Only time will ultimately tell but it looks like they could be the next family to cross that line from "viable" to "not viable."



You wrote this a while ago, Ivy, but I wanted to know if your thoughts have changed. Is the family rebuilding or is it on its way out? Is there any stories to come out recently about these guys?


Thanks.


Makes you think. Makes you think about the people in your life. And when I think, I think of Neil. If he were here now what would he say? He would say "John what's it about? What's life about... if you dont go through it as a man's man?". He'd say "Suck it up, take the fall do the time. That made you what you are. That makes you what you are. How long have we been around this thing of ours? This Cosa Nostra? 120 years. What's it about? It's about the rules, perimeters. You take the beating for a friend, you don't run, you don't lay down, you don't betray who you are. What you are.
Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: Gotti] #761727
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Riggi (Official), Guaracci (Acting), Miranda (Acting UB) and Vitibale (Consig) are all on the streets.


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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #761730
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Is official underboss jimmy dumps Palermo still under house arrest ?

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: Gotti] #761838
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Originally Posted By: Gotti
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Bah! You gotta wonder how these Wiki-authors would even know when a mob family had making ceremonies and how many guys were made. And if they were in a position to know, they wouldn't be announcing it on the internet to begin with. There are so many bullshit artists on the net, it's sickening. When it comes to organized crime, unless there are linked sources, Wikipedia will usually steer you wrong.

For now, the DeCavalcantes are still considered one of the few viable families remaining outside New York. They still have 40-50 total members, which would make them comparable to New England, Philadelphia, or Chicago. But you have to wonder just how much damage the big indictments in the late 1990's and early 2000's did to them. Judging by the lack of cases over the past decade, it looks like a lot. In 2003 you had 3 Decavalcante guys busted for bookmaking and loansharking. In 2006 the family's cash cow, Laborers Local 394, was put under federal trusteeship. In 2010 you had acting boss Frank Guaracci and 2 other guys busted for extorting a pizza shop. Then earlier this year 2 other guys were busted for contraband cigarettes, stolen tax refund checks, and loansharking. Only time will ultimately tell but it looks like they could be the next family to cross that line from "viable" to "not viable."



You wrote this a while ago, Ivy, but I wanted to know if your thoughts have changed. Is the family rebuilding or is it on its way out? Is there any stories to come out recently about these guys?


Thanks.


Well, not much has happened since then that would change my opinion.


* A couple DeCavalcante-connected guys who run demolition/waste companies mentioned in the December 2011 report on mob involvement in the waste industry.

* A guy on the waterfront busted for running a DeCavalcante-connected "pick 6" lottery operation.

* A past DeCavalcante associate among dozens picked up in a large bookmaking bust across several states.


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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #762788
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Anyone know why John Riggi is called "The Eagle" and do we know much about the new guys who were inducted in the last ten years or is that not really known yet?


Makes you think. Makes you think about the people in your life. And when I think, I think of Neil. If he were here now what would he say? He would say "John what's it about? What's life about... if you dont go through it as a man's man?". He'd say "Suck it up, take the fall do the time. That made you what you are. That makes you what you are. How long have we been around this thing of ours? This Cosa Nostra? 120 years. What's it about? It's about the rules, perimeters. You take the beating for a friend, you don't run, you don't lay down, you don't betray who you are. What you are.
Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #762825
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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #762842
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Did they not bring in a few Italians over the last few years?


British is best....
Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #762848
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they weren't shit when they were at their best so they're probably in bad shape

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: cookcounty] #762942
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You're definitely wrong about that statement.

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: NickyScarfo] #762946
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Cookcounty is just a sad troll JCB.

Ignore.


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MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
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north jersey is the only family that has always allowed other families in their turf

with all their indictements in the 90s-2000s they'd have to be very weakened

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: cookcounty] #762982
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If you look at the DeCalvacante Family going back to the days of Sam the Plumber, they were a very respected family, small, but very in tune with the 5 NY families and the amount of labor racketeering they had going on coming out of North Jersey is mind blowing, maybe more so than any other "relatively" similar same size family in the country and had their fingers in enough of the Teamsters local then any of the larger families across the country. They had some clout my friend.

Your statement is the same as saying that Russell Bufalino and his family were not influential. There are quite a few of the smaller families that were whales in their respected territories. I disagree with your take on NJ (and I'm not a NJ fanboy, I don't think I've ever posted about them) but I appreciate their long history and ties to NY.

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Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: cookcounty] #762999
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
north jersey is the only family that has always allowed other families in their turf

with all their indictements in the 90s-2000s they'd have to be very weakened



Added to which your comment about 'turf' is misguided. The 5 families don't operate within geographical boundaries. Neither have the Decav's.


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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
north jersey is the only family that has always allowed other families in their turf

with all their indictements in the 90s-2000s they'd have to be very weakened



Added to which your comment about 'turf' is misguided. The 5 families don't operate within geographical boundaries. Neither have the Decav's.

He's an imbecile, Sonny. And this is how he gets off. It doesn't even occur to him that the guys in the Chicago Outfit, who he so clearly worships, wouldn't even acknowledge him for being human (I'm having my doubts myself, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he's Black).

I mean, if a guy like Giancana were alive today, he wouldn't let Cook use his bathroom after working 12 hours in his yard. Not even if Mrs. Cook wiped down the bowl with her doo-rag when he was done.

DON'T FEED THE FUCKING TROLLS!!!!


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
north jersey is the only family that has always allowed other families in their turf

with all their indictements in the 90s-2000s they'd have to be very weakened



Added to which your comment about 'turf' is misguided. The 5 families don't operate within geographical boundaries. Neither have the Decav's.

He's an imbecile, Sonny. And this is how he gets off. It doesn't even occur to him that the guys in the Chicago Outfit, who he so clearly worships, wouldn't even acknowledge him for being human (I'm having my doubts myself, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he's Black).

I mean, if a guy like Giancana were alive today, he wouldn't let Cook use his bathroom after working 12 hours in his yard. Not even if Mrs. Cook wiped down the bowl with her doo-rag when he was done.

DON'T FEED THE FUCKING TROLLS!!!!


haha so true. It's mental how he's a fan of these guys when he knows there feelings toward black people, strange.

Re: The Current State of the DeCavalcante Family? [Re: pizzaboy] #763098
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
north jersey is the only family that has always allowed other families in their turf

with all their indictements in the 90s-2000s they'd have to be very weakened



Added to which your comment about 'turf' is misguided. The 5 families don't operate within geographical boundaries. Neither have the Decav's.

He's an imbecile, Sonny. And this is how he gets off. It doesn't even occur to him that the guys in the Chicago Outfit, who he so clearly worships, wouldn't even acknowledge him for being human (I'm having my doubts myself, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he's Black).

I mean, if a guy like Giancana were alive today, he wouldn't let Cook use his bathroom after working 12 hours in his yard. Not even if Mrs. Cook wiped down the bowl with her doo-rag when he was done.

DON'T FEED THE FUCKING TROLLS!!!!


That's exactly where we are with cook, noone doubts he's a troll yet he clearly has some retarded quality that keeps him around, from now on i'll just report his comments.


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