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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #774720
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What about the book about Pitera? Is it worth buying?

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Originally Posted By: USICILIANU
What about the book about Pitera? Is it worth buying?
It was ok. It's worth reading tho.


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Just pre-ordered Mob and the City...anyone hear anything about it?

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Capeci said it's the best book he's ever read about the early years of the mob. Sounds like pretty high praise to me.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: USICILIANU] #774884
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Originally Posted By: USICILIANU
What about the book about Pitera? Is it worth buying?

To me it was more than just OK. I thought it was a very good book and often go back to it to re-read some things. I don't think you will be dissapointed.

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Originally Posted By: Snakes
Capeci said it's the best book he's ever read about the early years of the mob. Sounds like pretty high praise to me.

Yeah, either its really good or the publisher paid Capeci good money to use his name along with that quote.

Not so interested in the well told Luciano creating modern day Cosa Nostra story, but very much interested in the 40s-50s heyday aspect of the book.

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You can "look inside" over on Amazon. It looks to be a pretty good read. Do a keyword search for subjects that you are interested in from that time period and see what kind of results you get.


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Originally Posted By: ctsguy
I'm reading contract killer the story of tony the Greek frankos. Not bad some bs, the Greek didn't think much of joey gallo

I've read this one too. you are correct about the bs. I'd call it a work of fiction. Claims to have been on the Jimmy Hoffa hit even though he admits to being in jail at the time.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Snakes] #774942
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Originally Posted By: Snakes
You can "look inside" over on Amazon. It looks to be a pretty good read. Do a keyword search for subjects that you are interested in from that time period and see what kind of results you get.

Never thought of doing that using the look inside feature. Great idea thanks.

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Anyone read Supermob by Gus Russo? How is it?

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Originally Posted By: slumpy
Anyone read Supermob by Gus Russo? How is it?


The book is seemingly well-written, but I wonder about the veracity of a good bit of the information it contains.

I think that he lets his political feelings slant his reporting.

I researched some of his famous statements and found no solid substantiation whatsoever (unless you find Kitty Kelly believable).

That caused me to doubt the accuracy of a good bit of the other information in the book that was so well written I had assumed to be true.

It also made me reluctant to read "The Outfit".

Send me a private message if you want more detail.

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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Meyer] #777384
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"The outfit" may be "the essential work" on the Chicago mob, but at the same time I find it boring. Dont know what it is but Russos way of writing makes me think of the business litterature I read back in collage..not very intriguing.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #777572
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Anyone read mafia son based on Greg scrapa jr?

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Capeci said it's the best book he's ever read about the early years of the mob. Sounds like pretty high praise to me.

Yeah, either its really good or the publisher paid Capeci good money to use his name along with that quote.

Not so interested in the well told Luciano creating modern day Cosa Nostra story, but very much interested in the 40s-50s heyday aspect of the book.


Just started it. Seems very academic. There are 100 pages of notes/annotations in the back.

But it says that it tells the story of the low level soldiers which could be great. And says it will give new facts about the mob's role in the drug trade and other topics. I hope I can get through it.

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I think I read most of the good mob books . I gotta read Michael Franzese's book and the Jack Falcone book.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #778375
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I'm currently reading Underboss.

Got to say, Gravano is a charismatic guy and I don't get the sense he is making himself out to be more than he was - granted I am only 70 odd pages into it.


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Currently im reading the Last Mafioso. It is about Jimmy Fratianno. Almost half way through it and it is pretty good. Pretty interesting since he was out of Cleveland and im 35 minutes away from there and Youngstown(if anyone knows that Youngstown was a big mob city). Anyone read this one yet?

The next one i will be reading is Unlocked by Louis Ferrante. Anyone read this?

side note: i think i have only posted here a few times. I forgot the name of the website and finally found it again and remembered my password..Glad to be back

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I just bought Gaspipe and Murder Machine . Are those good reads?

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Originally Posted By: MobMan
I just bought Gaspipe and Murder Machine . Are those good reads?

Yes on "Murder Machine," no on "Gaspipe." But you're free to draw your own conclusions smile.


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Originally Posted By: Ricky1319
Currently im reading the Last Mafioso. It is about Jimmy Fratianno. Almost half way through it and it is pretty good. Pretty interesting since he was out of Cleveland and im 35 minutes away from there and Youngstown(if anyone knows that Youngstown was a big mob city). Anyone read this one yet?


Yes, good book in my opinion

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #779226
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I've been reading Hortis's book, must say I don't understand the fuss over it. Any book that revels in the fact that it includes primary source research I have to wonder about. Every nonfiction book is supposed to have that although we know some probably use 20 other books as their source material. I still think Raabs is the definitive book on New York. Can anyone tell me what Hortis offers us that's new? I think Capeci was being quite generous but did he even read it? I don't believe he's written about it. He did for example write a long column about Mafia Summit which I think is excellent (the writer does make some juvenile factual errors). I just finished "Mob Boss" and thought it had some great insight. I'm also reading Havana Nocturn and am enjoying it a lot. Also still reading Mob and the City, also Mafia Republic. Next up, the Outfit. Any feedback on Mob & City?

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I flipped through the Last Mafioso. The Weasel got a hell of a deal to hire someone to write it. The parts I've read focus on his meeting Funzi Tieri, a man of much greater power; to me some simple details come across as fake. Funzi seems somewhat obsessed with Bonanno, according to Fratianno. Also, when he meets Funzi at a nightclub for example, Funzi introduces the Weasel to Tony Salerno, calling him "Fat Tony." I doubt in that situation anyone would introduce a fellow made man using a derogatory nickname used behind Salerno's back. Also how much dialog came directly from wiretaps? Every convo is loaded with incriminating details. I mean even tangential stuff casually tossed in. "Clever how Blackie took out Nardi!"

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Is Gangsters and Goodfellas: Wiseguys, Witness Protection, and Life on the Run by Henry Hill any good?


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Originally Posted By: EVL
I've been reading Hortis's book, must say I don't understand the fuss over it. Any book that revels in the fact that it includes primary source research I have to wonder about. Every nonfiction book is supposed to have that although we know some probably use 20 other books as their source material. I still think Raabs is the definitive book on New York. Can anyone tell me what Hortis offers us that's new? I think Capeci was being quite generous but did he even read it? I don't believe he's written about it. He did for example write a long column about Mafia Summit which I think is excellent (the writer does make some juvenile factual errors). I just finished "Mob Boss" and thought it had some great insight. I'm also reading Havana Nocturn and am enjoying it a lot. Also still reading Mob and the City, also Mafia Republic. Next up, the Outfit. Any feedback on Mob & City?


I'm 3/4 done with it. I think it's good, but like I said above, it's pretty academic. One of his main goals is to refute other mafia books. He's trying to correct misconceptions of the mafia that have been written by other authors. Some of his corrections are amazing, others more nitpicky.

I see this book as a much smaller five families that only focuses on the early part of the mob before the 1960s. It focuses on all aspects of mafia life, and provides backup for all its facts. It also makes a point of disproving common myths about the mafia, some included in five families. I think that's pretty new.

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I'm currently reading Underboss.

Got to say, Gravano is a charismatic guy and I don't get the sense he is making himself out to be more than he was - granted I am only 70 odd pages into it.


If you read other books on the gambinos, you will see that many of the other members describe him much differently than he describes himself. They say he is greedy and that he lied to his boss to get permission to kill other members - just to steal their companies - and that he did that many times.

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Is Gangsters and Goodfellas: Wiseguys, Witness Protection, and Life on the Run by Henry Hill any good?

No.


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I just bought Gaspipe and Murder Machine . Are those good reads?

Yes on "Murder Machine," no on "Gaspipe." But you're free to draw your own conclusions smile.


I agree. I think Murder Machine is one of the best books about the mafia ever. And a great read for anyone interested in true crime or serial killers.

Gaspipe is good as a companion piece to other books. If you are looking for a history of Casso's mafia career, you can get most of it from the good rat by jimmy breslin, five families by selwyn raab or the new book on al d'arco by capeci - all great books. If you are looking for every little fact about Casso, then go ahead and read Gaspipe.

But many people have said the book is biased and bends the truth. It's written by a close family friend of his who lived next door to him. I think Casso may have personally edited it.

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[quote=Ricky1319]Currently im reading the Last Mafioso. It is about Jimmy Fratianno. Almost half way through it and it is pretty good. Pretty interesting since he was out of Cleveland and im 35 minutes away from there and Youngstown(if anyone knows that Youngstown was a big mob city). Anyone read this one yet

It was the first mob book I read many moons ago. It is a good book. Jimmy had plenty of tails to tell. He was a star as well on the BBC documentary from back then as well "Crime Inc." I've read since that he was full of crap. But reading between the lines I think he was probably guilty of portraying himself slightly more heroically than other people remembered him.

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Originally Posted By: Owney_Madden
[ on the BBC documentary from back then as well "Crime Inc." I've read since that he was full of crap. But reading between the lines I think he was probably guilty of portraying himself slightly more heroically than other people remembered him.


That's the case to one extent or another with every rat who writes a book.


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I just got done reading Mob Daughter! I like how it shows what it was like growing up the child of a huge Mobster figure at the time. Also like that it gives U insight on the whole Arizona drug ring.

Underboss is a better read however Mob Daughter isn't bad.


Now I'm reading Joseph Bonanno book and I'm still in the early stages!

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