VINCENT CORLEONE

CIAO TUTTI como si va? I was wondering in there ever is a four how does every one see vincents charater what is he doing what is he up to how so you guys picture Vincent corleone in 2005/2006.

I think that Vincent should not go very far; I think that he must be murdered or arrested before Michael dies to emphasize more the misfortune of Michael's destiny. So he would have seen the destruction of " his two families ". When Mike dies (1997) in Godfather III in Sicily I imagine him like a unfortunate man, which has lost his family( Vincent is dead or in prision for example) and he could not have avoided the fall of the Cosa Nostra. Besides, the history would be more realistic because the Corleone family only has had 2 bosses in 60 years, it isn´t very real.

I don't know, I kind of liked Vincent. I wouldn't mind seeing him as the current Don in modern times.

I know what would be interesting for GFIV, a power struggle for control of the family between Vincent and Sonny's other son (or sons)!

So a struggle for control - Between Vincent and his brothers Frank and Santino "Chip" Corleone. not bad idea.

I think Vincent takes michael's teachings - and keeps the corleone family strong for the next 35 years. he goes to war with the russians, the asians, and the other families through out his years as don. (Vincent "Vincenzo Corleone" Mancini: DON 1980-??)

THE CORLEONE FAMILY 1980-?

Vincent “Vincenzo Corleone” Mancini: (32yrs) New York Don of the Corleone Family 1980-?

Frank Corleone: (40) Caporegime: head of security for Family Interests, other security details as needed

Santino Corleone (35) Soldato under his brother Frank


Victor Rizzi: (31) ?
Michael Francis Rizzi: (25) ?

Frank Hagen: (40) Consigliore and family lawyer

Dominic Corleone: 4 years old – 1st born son of Vincent

Santino Corleone: 1years old – 2nd born son of Vincent

??Salvatore Pentageli (no Brasi): 4years old –grandson of Frank (Franki Five angels) Pentageli - parents murdered by unknown assailants – Vincent takes the boy in. (stood as Godfather)??

Mario Clemenza: (35) Caporegime: grandson to Pete Clemenza

Paolo Clemenza: (31) Soldato under his brother Mario, grandson to Pete Clemenza

Tommy Neri: (?) Caporegime: and nephew of Al Neri (have nt read godfather returns yet - so not sure if he is alive or not)

Dominic,nice avatar image you've got

I think the fact that all the bosses must have the same last name is A bit un-realistic.

Luciano Fanucci Reply With Quote I think the fact that all the bosses must have the same last name is A bit un-realistic.

what

Vito CORLEONE
Michael CORLEONE
Vincent CORLEONE
Why do they all have to be Corleone`s?

Because the story is about the CORLEONE FAMILY.

I agree, Luciano Fannuci - It is unrealistic for every Boss of the Corleone Family in the Family's history to be called Corleone. The five Families in New York in real life don't only allow Genoveses, Gambinos, Bonannos, Colombos or Lucheses to become Bosses of their Families, so I would like to see a Boss of the Corleone Family who is not called Corleone, in The Godfather Part IV, if it is ever created.

Yeah, perhaps A close family friend of the Corleone`s, Al Neri? Also, Clemenza or Tessio would of made good Dons, but we all know what happened to them.

Maybe in the next one if ever made the don could be a grandson of Clemenza

Perhaps.

I don't think Fat Clemenza would have made a good Boss. He was loyal, powerful and had alot of respect from his people, but he simply wasn't smart enough to be Boss. I think Sal Tessio would have made a good Boss. He wasn't very loyal, which is proven in The Godfather, but he was powerful and he had alot of respect from his people, plus he was smart enough to be Boss.

Hey wasn't smart smart but he was street smart and had alot of experience.

or how about a Maranzano or a "Luciano" Fanucci

In my opinion, "street smarts" simply aren't enough to be Boss of one of the five most powerful Families in New York and the entire United States of America.

In my opinion, "street smarts" simply aren't enough to be Boss of one of the five most powerful Families in New York and the entire United States of America. [/b][/quote]Uh huh, you need to be able to predict what your enemy is thinking, knwo there weakness and strike when they least expect it, thats just one element needed to be A boss.

instead of being the illegitmate son - he could have been frank or santino jr or even the traitorous carlo rizzi's sons victor or micheal francis - i think victor would be a traitor like his father and michael francis - could be Don Michael Francis Rizzi-Corleone.

ages in 1980 when Vincent Corleone took over. ages in 1980 when Vincent Corleone took over.

(my dvd says vincent born in 1948 not 47 after fathers death.)


Vincent Mancini (32)
Frank Corleone: (40)
Santino Corleone: (35)
Victor Rizzi: (31)
Michael Francis Rizzi: (25)


just thought MI FAMILIA

In my opinion, "street smarts" simply aren't enough to be Boss of one of the five most powerful Families in New York and the entire United States of America. [/b][/quote]Uh huh, you need to be able to predict what your enemy is thinking, knwo there weakness and strike when they least expect it, thats just one element needed to be A boss. [/b][/quote]I think he would make an OK Don but not that great of one I think the next Don would have to be another Clemenza I don't think it would be anyone realted to Tessio though.

I dont think Tessio or Clemenza where worth of becoming Don. Infact, I think the only guy who would be sutible for the position would be Al Neri. He was smart, but knew when and when not to pull the trigger.

He would never become a Don only because of the fact that he was once a cop.

I just say that Vincent makes an extremely good looking Don!

oh yeah :p

If there is a "middle" story, to make it more interesting, we can have Anthony into the picture, wanting to protect his family dynasty after Vincent fails a deal. I don't know how it's going to happen, but Anthony is a lot like young Michael and he might just pull a trigger.

Why does everyone have to be relatives of former Corleone Family members?

Thats the way it is - so deal

Toni;

He also became a trusted ( highly trusted ) enforcer for Mike and reported only to Mike after being a cop.

I think that a Part IV would have to take a hard line showing Vincent saving the family or ultimately destroying it by inexperience or a crucial mistake.

I personally would rather see him restore the family to power by doing a deal on his own while Michael exiles himself in Sicily.

I don't like the idea of any of Sonny's other children involved in a power struggle since they have likely been sheltered from the mafia life since Sonny's death.

I also like bringing Anthony back into the mix and ultimately have him become a part of the family as well. If there is to be a power struggle, I think it would have to be between the two of them, since Anthony is sure to partly blame Vincent for Mary's death.

What follows according to Puzo and Coppola is not exactly known. However, on The Godfather Part III's DVD commentary, Coppola explains that both he and Puzo had envisioned a fourth part to the saga, one storyline of which would deal with Vincent's running of the Corleone family. Vincent, in antagonism to the 'morals' of his predecessors, was to have involved the family in filthy businesses including drug dealing, driving the Corleone clan into corruption, sleaze and their eventual decline, with Vincent finally being hunted down and killed in a manner similar to the death of columbian drug lord Pablo Escobar.

The character of Vincent Corleone was said by Coppola to, roughly speaking, amalgamate the males of the Corleone Family. Whilst this concept is arguable among fans, Coppola describes Vincent as having the cunning of Vito, the ruthlessness of Michael, the sensitivity of Fredo and the fiery temper of Sonny.

I think Vincent grew up a lot during Part III. I mean he is still a hot-head just like dear old dad, but to plunge the family into drugs and corruption seems a little far-fetched IMO.

I think he could try to keep the family afloat and eventually be pulled down by drugs and corruption but to have him get willingly involved in that business seems out of character from what I remember of him at the end of Part III.

a rebuttal on my previous statement
Why does everyone have to be relatives of former Corleone Family members? [/QB][/QUOTE]

question then - wasnt Clemenza Don after Mike left and then (not everone's favorite charater) Dominick "Nick" Geraci

Nick Geraci is a friggin' joke. Winegardener could have at least used someone from the Part II FBI chart and made up a back story for them.

i agree with you 100 percent

I think Vincent would have been a good Don.

Although I think ‘they’ weren’t going to make it easy on him… so he was probably going to be forced to ‘prove’ himself, maybe even in the way Michael did in GFI.

The fact that Michael found peace in Sicily tells me he had faith in Vincent and therefore ‘the family’ didn’t need his protection anymore. I don’t believe he would allow quarrels between ‘brothers’. The Corleone’s are Sicilian and therefore as Michael had appointed Vincent as his follower that decision was to be respected.

But… when Michael dies… then the trouble starts for Vincent. Other families start questioning him… after all he is a ‘bastardo’. Vincent was tutored well; Michael probably gave him Vito’s legacy, the wisdom, the vigilance, the brilliance of outsmarting…

Vincent was probably going to have a hard time, maybe even people in his surroundings would betray him… men he doubted showed to be faithful… and the game was also becoming more complicated and dangerous as other nations become powerful not to forget that Narcotics was going to reign the ‘Underworld’.
But I think as he is a Corleone – he was to survive and live up the Corleone reputation.

Was he going to live long enough to become old as well? I don’t know. But if he uses the knowledge that was given to him… yes…. I believe he would make it… who knows… maybe even have same ambitions as Michael – make the ‘family businesses legitimate.

I don't think Michael found peace in Sicily. He probably lived out the last few years of his life a tortured soul. I think I read somewhere that FFC wanted to imply that he even went blind.

It is also rumored that Vincent plunged the family into drugs and they were going to base his time as Don on Pablo Escobar.

Where do you find all these information? LOL

Well… if Michael had spent his last days on earth as a tortured soul and above all was blind – that I can not imagine… I cant, I wont!

That Vincent plunged the family into drugs was predictable – he had no choice. If he wanted the family to be strong he was obliged to go along… Narcotics were the future in Michael’s young days… in Vincent’s days – reality. He must have worked with Pablo Escobar, but I don’t believe ‘under’ him…

frensis ford cappola will make gf4? or not.

I was watching GFIII last night and one line resonated with me - Michael tells Vincent that he is the only one left in the family with his father's strength. Do you think this is true? It also surprises me that the sole remaining heir to the Corleone dynasty turns out to be Sonny's bastard child (no disrespect intended)

Connie told Vincent that.

Too bad man....this is an example of how ppl r screwing up wid the story be it FFC wid GF4 or the stupid author of Godfather Returns...or whatever the name's......stop it guys....the MARIO PUZO--FFC saga is a classic

I don't understand why just because their family members where capos and consiglorie's why relatuves have to have the same job.

I agree with you. To be a relative doesn't mean to have the same place in the family. I think it would be better change it

Vincent should be killed by Ellis Island in the same room Vito sat in at the beginning of GFII.

That would be a problem Don Pacino.
Ellis Island was only used sporadically after the immigration quota laws were passed in 1924. As of 1966 it has been listed on the National Register Of Historic Places.
Meaning, it was closed long before Vincent was an itch in Sonny's pants or Lucy Mancini's bridesmaid's dress

Meaning, it was closed long before Vincent was an itch in Sonny's pants or Lucy Mancini's bridesmaid's dress [/quote]

Vincent takes over the family with Connie and her children and Sonny's other children at their side. Some legit, some not. One on the police force would be interesting.

After his sister's murder and Michael's death, Anthony finally becomes a lawyer. He and Tom's son (the priest) always trying to get the family to go completely legit (Michael's dream). (Gotta have some good stuff going on. lol)

All of the five families have sons or daughters as head. Some of them appear to be on the up and up with the Corleone's. Others aren't and are going for revenge because of their fathers' murders. The families that appear to be okay, help get rid of the other families.

Joey Z's family/people try to kill off Connie and Vincent to avenge Joey's murder.

I'd love to see Al Pacino back in the film. As who, I don't know. One of Pop's illegimate children? Or from Michael's past when he was in the military.

That's all I can think of. Oh, Kate and Connie are always at odds because Kate wants the Corleone family completely legit. Because, "this must all end!"

Finally the family becomes legit.