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GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want?

Posted By: consiGliera

GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 10:26 AM

we´ve been discussinG it in some places, but i thouGht it could need a thread of its own.

i have to admit, as much as i admire FFC´s work on GF I & GF II (i do NOT admire his worx on GFIII and if GF IV is about Vincent, i hope the footaGe´ll catch fire... :p ...), i really do like the idea of havinG another director takinG a turn on the matter.

Coppola has been the inventive spirit behind the Genuine atmosphere of the Godfather movies, but after GFIII i have the impression he has burnt out a little and his symbolism is even more slap-in-the-face as it used to be.

let´s assume the script of GFIV turns out to be a brillant script, it could be the movie you want to see (fill in own Godfather sequel fantasy here), and now all of Hollywood is on the chase for a director. who would your pick be?

would you only accept a director with american italian roots or even a Brit or a Chinese director or whatever if he´d have an interestinG vision?

IMO the most vital thinG for a GF sequel is refined character development (look at GFIII... ). Sam Mendes and Sofia Coppola have been mentioned, both would be intriGuinG choices.

i´d add P.T.Anderson, because he proved himself capable of handlinG a bunch of different characters and storylines in a beautiful way. you´d add - ?
Posted By: The Italian Stallionette

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 01:32 PM

Although, GFIII was no match for the first two, and my least favorite, it still was a good movie. I would definitely choose Coppola (whether he'd do it or not is another story). He was really tuned in with the "feel" of the era. How many times we've learned on this board how accurate and authentic he was when it came to the smallest detail. Whether or not it has to do with his Italian roots, I don't know, but it worked. All I can say is his direction and keen eye totally enhanced the trilogy. He is the most logical choice to me, but we'll see.

TIS
Posted By: Chilltown

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 03:02 PM

After seeing Lost in Translation, Sofia Coppola
Posted By: The Italian Stallionette

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 04:52 PM

Hi Chilltown!

I've not seen "Lost In Translation", but I do know Sofia has gotten much praise for it. I'd be open to her directing GFIV (like my opinion would count with the movie execs. ) Heck she'd have her father available if she needed assistance, so why not.

It sounds like Sofia was at the wrong end of the camera with acting. Directing seems to be her forte'.

TIS
Posted By: Chilltown

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 05:32 PM

TIS-
Lost In Translation was so amazing. The way it was directed and its script, just so cerebral. She wrote, directed, and produced the movie which is definitely impressive. In regards to GFIII, i am one of the few that was thoroughly satisfied with her performance. And from word i have received, Paramount Studios has her at number one on their list to direct, not FFC. I actually don't think they'd want him back, amazingly enough. Any theories on why that is?
Posted By: Pherdy

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 08:00 PM

Robert DeNiro


altough, Sofia Coppola might be nice too: a young, talented and critically acclaimed director who is as inside to The Godfather as DeNiro is (starred in the previous three)

Coppola always made it a family affair. Maybe Nicolas Cage (his nephew) could be in too. He has made a movie for Spike Jonze, Sofia's husband...now that I say that, Sofia probably arranged the deal for Spike and Nic... oh anyway, Nic's last picture was directed by Ridley Scott, hey could do it.

My personal favorites as directors are David Fincher, Bryan Singer, Chris Nolan; neo-noir directors.


But more obvious choices would be Martin Scorsese, David Chase (Sopranos) and Quentin Tarantino. Or Nora Ephron who used a lot of The Godfather in her romcom You've Got Mail. Harold Ramis spoofed The Godfather in Analyze This. Those two know the movie just as well as Tarantino or Scorsese probably do. Am I getting off track here?
Posted By: Craig David

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/14/03 11:37 PM

I think Al Pacino should direct, who could do the film more justice than Mikey Corleone himself.
Posted By: Don V

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/19/03 08:36 PM

Quentin Tarantino
Posted By: wj 737 200

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/20/03 07:10 AM

As much as I like Tarantino I think Scorsese would be a better choice. Even if FFC was going to do it I honestly don't think it would be that good because his heart probably wouldn't be in it like GF3(he said he didn't want to do it right? or am I mistaken ) Anyway theres my opinion.
Posted By: Chilltown

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/22/03 12:17 AM

I really think FFC's best days are behind him. Truthfully, with the exception of GFIII, he has struggled for nearly two decades for acclaim right? I think he's good as retired, bring on Sofia Coppola's Godfathe Part IV, i say!
Posted By: Chilltown

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/22/03 12:17 AM

I really think FFC's best days are behind him. Truthfully, with the exception of GFIII, he has struggled for nearly two decades for acclaim right? I think he's good as retired, bring on Sofia Coppola's Godfather Part IV, i say!
Posted By: Pherdy

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/22/03 07:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Chilltown:
I really think FFC's best days are behind him. Truthfully, with the exception of GFIII, he has struggled for nearly two decades for acclaim right? I think he's good as retired, bring on Sofia Coppola's Godfather Part IV, i say!
well, kids may think of "Jack" as good, and he did make a decent lawyer-film called "The Rainmaker" with Matt Damon and Danny DeVito.

But Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) was a good movie, and I think most of his movies from the 1980's proved him right on some level. For one thing he has a nose for talent.

Yes his 'failures' from the eightties might have ruined his reputation, but after four of the best movies of the seventies, the guy has all the credit in the world.


I still sincerely hope he will put through Megalopolis but I doubt it will ever get to the big screen; he's been strugglign with it for over 15 years now, and there does not seem to be any progress in it. too bad, it sounded like a kick-ass project
Posted By: Pherdy

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/22/03 08:55 PM

Francis is however, producing Robert DeNiro's "The Good Shepherd" in 2004 (if DeNiro will do it still now that he is ill), as well as two other projects called On the Road and Kinsey both scheduled for 2004, the latter one starring Liam Neeson, Laura Linney and Chris O'Donnell.

Imdb.com says his Megalopolis is still in production, but I don't buy it. Unfortunately.


on a side note, however: Diane Lane is the most cast non-Godfather actress by Francis Coppola, starring in four of his movies! I post this because I know how much she is appreciated on this boards.
Posted By: Mike Sullivan

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/24/03 02:23 AM

Once Upon A Time In America Took almost 20 Years to get done...

But It Got Done!
Posted By: Robert DeNiro

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/24/03 05:08 AM

Mendes did Road to Perdition right? That was excellent. I'd be all for him. My list of choices would start with FFC for sure. But if Sofia Coppola is as good as ya'll say, then she should take a shot as well. To me Scorcese excells more at the modern mafia stuff, and although I wouldnt mind, since I wanna see more 20's and 30's stuff he wouldnt be my #1 choice.
Posted By: Pherdy

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/24/03 12:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mike Sulivan:
Once Upon A Time In America Took almost 20 Years to get done...

But It Got Done!
Coppola has ended the contract he had with MGM and stopped production on Megalopolis, only to be involved with the three projects I mentioned now. I think Megalopolis is definitely off.
Posted By: AlPacino

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 11/01/03 10:06 AM

just a little trivia, when Charlie Bluhdorn, paramount's chairman at that time, asked Coppola to direct Part II, Coppola didn't want to do it and suggested Scorcese to direct it...PAramount gave Coppola control over production and the rest is history.
Posted By: long_lost_corleone

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 11/01/03 07:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig David:
I think Al Pacino should direct, who could do the film more justice than Mikey Corleone himself.
But can he direct is the question.

Al Pacino is my absoulute favorite actor and I support him on everything he does (even Gigli ) but i don't think he'll direct, or even if he can direct.

I think Pacino will be involved with 4 though. maybe we'll find out if he ever manages to go straight.
Posted By: AlPacino

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 11/27/03 08:58 AM

Trivia: FFC recommended Martin Scorcese to Charlie Bluhdorn (Paramoun Chairman) when he was asked to do GodFather II. FFC was so traumatized by his experience with The GodFather that he didn't want to do anything with it...Paramount gave him an offer he couldnt refuse (money and total control of the movie) and so the rest is history...
Posted By: Double-J

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 11/27/03 11:54 AM

Martin Scorcese or David Chase, as aforementioned.
Posted By: Benchgod

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 11/28/03 03:17 AM

I think GF4 should be about how Vincent Mancini "Corleone" is nuthin' but a phony. He's not the bastard son of Santino Corleone.

I think GFIV would be good if Sonny's or Connie's kids went after Vincent for their birthright.

Whaddya think?
Posted By: Valadius

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/14/03 04:11 AM

If GF IV were to take place in the '30s with the Five Families Wars, I'd go with Martin Scorcese all the way to the Oscar podium.
Posted By: Don Pope

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/14/03 04:26 AM

the idea of it being in the 20's and 30's is good but not by scorsese they should just have FFC do it
Posted By: Valadius

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/29/03 01:13 AM

I just had a thought- how about Brett Ratner? He directed Red Dragon and the Rush Hour movies. It might sound like a choice out of left field, but not for me because... he's my cousin and then MAYBE I could use my influence with him to fulfill one of my dreams... to be in The Godfather Part IV!!! Hell, I'd get you guys in it too, if you wanted...
Posted By: Luca's boy

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/10/04 04:35 AM

It would have to be Scorcesse, he is the only other director who could deal with story of such historical signifacance, and he is the only one who could impose his will ie. Coppola w/ GF I.
Posted By: DonTeflon

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/22/04 11:44 PM

Brian DePalma
Martin Scorsese
Posted By: The Sicilian

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/28/04 08:52 PM

The best thing to do is to have FFCoppola direct the flashback half of the movie and have someone like a Quentin Terentino do the "present" day part...
Posted By: Don Lights

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/29/04 03:11 AM

Sophia Coppola as she has a clear vision like her father and The Godfather films crew is like a family.
Posted By: Signore Sole Aumentante

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 02/03/04 03:53 AM

If FFC will not do it, there leaves several potential options:

Sophia Coppola is out because although talented, it seems obvious that she doesn't have the right type of vision for a Godfather film. Spike Jonz is her husband? Him-- never!

Al Pacino would be a great choice, because he basically is the trilogy. He is The Godfather. His vision would undoubtebly be excellent.

George Lucas would be an interesting choice because he is arguably the closest with work basics to FFC as anyone. Remember back before Star Wars they owned a company together. He could definatly bring an epic vision of scope to The Godfather.

Steven Spielberg is a master director. With films like Schindler's List, he has proven a master storyteller all around. Not on anyone's potential list, but I'd add him.

Brian DePalma is out. So is Quentin Tarantino. Scarface was good; Pulp Fiction was far too strange. Neither have the right vision for a Godfather film, however. Even Scarface falls in shame before the Godfather.

Martin Scorsese is the obvious #1 choice. He is an excellent teller of mob stories, and the greatest mob filmmaker next to FFC. Goodfellas is of the same vision as The Godfather.

My choices would be as follows:

1. Martin Scorsese
2. George Lucas
3. Steven Spielberg

All of course if FFC doesn't do it.
Posted By: estelle

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/09/04 04:47 PM

sofia directed lost in translation really well...but i dont think she has a good insight of all the characters and the films...if she did, i think she would have acted better. she didnt even want to play mary remember. i think talia would give a good shot at it...i saw the film that she directed and it was done well...she understood the characters..and i know she does know the gf ones really well and helped decide the whole kay abortion thing...she would be good.
Posted By: DeathByClotheshanger

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/09/04 08:57 PM

Robert Altman or Martin Scorcesse.
Posted By: EnzoBaker

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/10/04 07:42 AM

I think Scorsese, pretty clear-cut.

Lucas? Nah, unless we want to see Luca Brasi become an 8-foot-tall computer-generated frog-man speaking retarded Rastafarian in every scene he's in...

:rolleyes:
Posted By: Freddie C.

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/10/04 12:46 PM

But didn't Lucas direct some scenes in The Godfather? He didn't mess those up.
Posted By: DeathByClotheshanger

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/10/04 01:29 PM

I thought Lucas was just a member of the crew, and didn't really have much to do in the way of directing... anyone know what he was listed as in the credits, if he even was in the credits?
Posted By: Don Sonny Corleone

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/11/04 12:32 AM

I'm pretty sure his wife edited some of the scenes,and he had something to do with the scene where the ambulance is driving down the road in order to take Vito home.
Posted By: Enzo Scifo

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/13/04 01:51 PM

Like somebody said before, FFC should defintely do the flshbacks and maybe somebody else could do the normal part.
What somebody said about Spielberg: Never Spielberg, he's way to sentimental.

Flashbacks:
1. FF Coppola 2. Scorcese 3. Pacino
Other Parts:
1. FF Coppola 2. Scorcese 3. DeLaPalma 4.S Coppola 5.Lucas
Posted By: AllEyesOnChris

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 09/15/04 05:04 PM

Either Scorcese or Spielberg, but if I had to choose, I'd go with Scorcese.
Posted By: Don Cardi

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 09/15/04 11:34 PM

Don;t want a GF IV. But if it ever is made, and Coppola is out, then Martin Scorcese would be my choice.


Don Cardi
Posted By: TheConsiglieri

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 09/25/04 06:42 AM

Al Pacino is my absoulute favorite actor and I support him on everything he does (even Gigli ) but i don't think he'll direct, or even if he can direct.

Have you seen Looking for Richard? He can do the job!
Posted By: Mignon

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 09/25/04 08:52 PM

Welcome to the BB The Consiglieri
Posted By: DE NIRO

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/04/04 09:37 PM

coppela would be my choice, but other wise scorcese would be good maybe de lima he did scarface.
Posted By: Don Sonny Corleone

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 10/05/04 09:06 PM

I personally wouldnt want to see De Palma do it because of the types of films he usually directs. Scarface, MI, theyre all pretty heavy on the gunfights and action, which is not the type of movie The Godfather is.
Posted By: MistaMista_Tom_Hagen

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/27/04 08:58 AM

reading this post i kept expecting someone to mention either the Coen brothers or steven soderbergh.

although scorsese is great, and he'd probably be my first choice if not for FFC, i think the Coen brothers did a great job with "Miller's Crossing" (irish mob movie, highly recommend it), and as far as Soderbergh goes, although crime films may not be his type of thing, i feel like he could create a very deep, complex picture of the psyche of the Michael and the corleone family, i.e the whole downfall and tragedy concept.
Posted By: henry

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/27/04 06:04 PM

How about Ron(Opie)Howard?
Posted By: Lavinia from Italy

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/28/04 11:17 AM

Scorsese, of course.
Posted By: JustMe

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 12/28/04 09:12 PM

GF-4 ?!?!
Posted By: Cour De Leone

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/03/05 08:42 PM

FFC all the way.
SCORCESE should help with the script
and direction
Or Tarantino, because hes such a great mimic.
But yeah FFC could bring them all together.

hey the other day I saw Decaprio LEO at a Borders across from the Bev Center LA...he was browsing...he looked conspicous hiding but still in front of him I asked for and purchased the GODFATHER book by our man Mario P. i said outloud, please the Originial not the New one. I wish hed play Sonny, hes tall like Caan. Anyways, why not have ED NORTON play Young Vito, or Deniro play Vito in the Thirties, and people STOP DISSING PART THREE it was GENIUS...remember, It sets up the next one for greatness, definately ANdy G as Vincent C.

Please oh pretty please with sugar on top FFC!!!
But sofia probably would not touch another GF movie because you dorks dissed her (well the haters did)i thought she was great, especially when she meets vinnie (ill give you a hint my father is Italian) the lil ho!
Posted By: DonGenco

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/18/05 07:01 PM

I can not believe that this is even being discussed. Some people are heartbroken enough that a movie will never be made with Puzo working on it. But to even think of a 4th Godfather without Coppola?!?!?! Without Coppola, I would be very disappointed. However, if a 4th movie was made without FFC ( ) then the only director I woud feel semi-happy about is Sophia Coppola. But with mention of Tarrentino and Schorcese-it just would never work. I mean, they are both very good directors, and I love their work but The Godfather is a different kind of movie-it was popular because of the classic touch Coppola gave to it. If someone like Tarrentino of Schorcese did it, it just wouldn't be the same Godfather we all know and love.
Posted By: DonRobertoCorleone

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 01/03/07 04:14 AM

George Lucas and Brian De Palma
Posted By: ScarFather

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 04/24/07 12:19 AM

I dont feel that Coppola has to be out if GF4 is made... the thing with GF3 is he wanted to complete Michael. Now that that is pretty much done. He can go back to his GF1 & 2 creativity and devise new plots and subplots for Vincent and Anthony.

I think it could be really good.

But... If I HAD TO choose another director... either Scorcese or maybe Oliver Stone(and I am not even a big fan of his) but he may be able to do something for it
Posted By: JMDII

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/23/07 10:16 PM

Really- only Coppola. I really don't see him doing it though. Scorsese would be great but I think DeNiro would be the best choice really-outside of Coppola. Another choice...ME!
Posted By: Mr. Bobby Fontaine

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/26/07 04:52 PM

Never know, Coppola could change his mind someday...I do love Scorsese and Tarantino, but I'm not sure either of their styles would be appropriate for this film.

DePalma has done very similar-looking projects, and Spielberg could make ANYTHING, possibly (and there IS a lot of sentiment to GF)...MUNICH did a lot for me as far as showing a harder edge from him that I don't think I've seen before. I've been fairly impressed by some of Ron Howard's "period-ish" films too, like CINDERELLA MAN and A BEAUTIFUL MIND.

In the end, though, I don't really expect to see any GF4 project put to film, ever. Sad but true, eh?
Posted By: JMDII

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/26/07 10:28 PM

I kind of hope that they never do. Leave the three and let it be.
Posted By: DeathByClotheshanger

Re: GFIV: if Coppola is out, who d´you want? - 08/27/07 09:22 PM

Here is the best choice for a Godfather Part IV directing gig.

UWE BOLL
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