Garcia

Did anyone see Andy Garcia in Ocean's Elven. The resemblance to Pacino in the GF2 was striking!
He must revist the role of Vincent.

Sorry, Kurgan! Missed your post! I haven't seen the flick yet, but from what I saw in the trailers, I quite agree with you. Although, I don't know if that alone is enough to qualify Garcia as the "next Don" in GF IV.

You mentioned Vicnent becomign the NEXT DOn not the LAST don. Tis may be for legal reasons

or do you expect someone to take over after Don Vincenzo Corleone?

Don Antonio Vitone Corleone
Don Miguelo Francesco Rizzi Corleone
Don Santino Corleone the Second
Don Francesco Corleone
Don Alberto Neri Corleone
Don Tommasso Corleone
Don Gaetano Corleone
Don Louis Pennino Corleone
Donness Constanzia Corleone
Don Tommasso Neri Corleone
Don Andrew Hagen Corleone
Don Enzo Paniterra Corleone
Don Jovan Fontane Corleone
Don Victor Rizzi Corleone
Donness Kay Adams Michelson Corleone

Wouldn't it be funny to see Kay Adams as Don in GF4. Ordering around her daughter's fiance, Vincent Mancini Corleone. She would call them Vincent Mancini, and Anthony Adams, Connie Rizzi, she'd hate ANYTHING with the name Corleone.

Oops! My bad! I liked your list, though!

did'nt saw the movie, i saw one of the movie posters. . .

Andy Garcia looks like a Gangster!

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I command this family right or wrong . . . it was not what I wanted!

i'm sorry but i don't think Andy Garcia Resembles big Al in anyway. I don't even think he looks Italian let alone Sicilian. IDK maybe it's just me.

I didn't think he looked especially Sicilian in GF3 but then again nor really do Brando or Caan etc /shrug.

He looks much more like Pacino now than 10 years ago. I was never struck by any resemblance then.

I didn't think he looked especially Sicilian in GF3 but then again nor really do Brando or Caan etc /shrug.

He looks much more like Pacino now than 10 years ago. I was never struck by any resemblance then.[/b][/quote]Why bother talking about ANdy Garcia?

We KNOW if there's a Vincent Mancini he'll be the FIRST one aksed, and they'll PRESS for him!

I dunno, Ricardo. Look at Chevy Chase's National Lampoon "Vacation" sequels: he had 2 different kids named "Russ" and "Audrey" for every movie and he never even noticed!

That's because he's Cuban

WOW! Great new avatar, Liz_85!

Thanks Snake, I love it too. Marilyn Monroe is my favourite actress so I figured I'd put her on as my Avatar.

I agree with Guineapig, Andy Garcia is not right for the role. He doesn't look Italian/Sicilian. They need to find someone to fit the bill and it isn't him. However, I can't think of anyone right now who could even come close to DeNiro & Pacino. Someone mentioned Tom Cruise...I don't think so. How about Robert Downey Jr. Great actor and could pass for Italian. (Of course we'd have to wait til he straigtens his life out).

annt

garcia is like a don in oceans 11

Then it's Decided we must hit Garcia at 4 this morning. Well I know he's cuban he was born in Havana Cuba and came here at the age of 5.

The following was posted by Ricardo Then it's Decided we must hit Garcia at 4 o' clock this morning. Well I know he's cuban he was born in Havana Cuba and came here at the age of 5.

All right, this is my opinion which sums up my reasoning why I don't think Andy Garcia should be in GF4. I hope I have been here long enough that my friends on the board will take this the way I mean it. Andy Garcia is Cuban/Latino right? He has been on many Latino award shows/I believe has been involved in many Latino causes & I've seen him on the "Spanish" stations here in California. Well, that's wonderful, but, that is the exact reason why he shouldn't play an Italian, he would not be believeable. We all know him as a Cuban/Latino actor.

I recently saw "The Wedding Planner" with Jennifer Lopez and it was not a bad movie. However, she played the part of an Italian girl in an Italian family. Well, I laughed it was so unbelievable. It's the same with Jennifer, who rightfully shows her "Latino" pride; I could NOT buy her as an Italian. I remember her promoting "Selena" saying how it was important to have Latino entertainment, etc.

Now, one could say Pacino should have never played "Scarface" because he was not Cuban. However, in all honesty, Pacino was never the activist, shall we say, for Italian causes, even though I'm sure he is a proud Italian. Therefore, I think that's where the difference is. Garcia is a good actor (good looking too), but out of place in the "Italian" setting. Does anyone know what I mean???? Guinea, you know what I mean???

Yeah i know what you mean Annt. I also don't like he's acting style. I agree with everything you said couldn't have said it better. No Prejudice involved in this but i think that THE GODFATHER was made by Italians, about Italians(Sicilians), and for Italians Sicilians even more then anyother ppl, even though everybody can relate to it it just doesn't feel right bringing some else in especially if he'll be passed off as somethign he is not and if he's acting style isn't good enough to be in the movie well at least i don't think it is nor like it.Also even in the movie he's an outsider to "The Family" where did he come from, did he spend time with them before? He was prob Jules's kid idk but i really don't think. he should be in the movie. And they make him the Don outrageous. . Well if nobody else understands what i mean i'm sure Annt understands what i mean.Cappolla Seriously pulled Vincent out of his ass.

Well friends, Guinea and I just gave "closing arguments on the A.G./GF4 debate!!! Case closed!!!!!

Agreed (Paisana)(As The Godfather waltz plays on)

I dont really have a problem with a person of a different nationality (or religion)playing a person of another nationality (or religion).For me at least,they better just as well act like they are,because if they dont sound or act the part,then its going to be pretty obvious to the audience and its going to come out sounding bad.

So,just pick the right people and actors for the job,whether the same nationality or not.

But well Andy Sucks.

MFM, I agree with you but not in this case, for the reasons I stated above. I guess it's just "This Sicilian Thing."

Yes yes it is. "ES COSA NOSTRA"-Don Vito Corleone.

How come you don't like Andy Garcia? I've never heard anyone say a bad word against him.

Well he's incredibly selfish and conceited if you read his interviews you'll know what i'm talking about.

I have read a couple of his interviews and never picked up on anything like that.

Liz go to Lycos.com and click on on 2.then read his interviews there.It's his unofficial fan club but you'll be able to pick up on it if you read a few more.

How about Marlon Brando and James Caan?Both are not Italian(not sure what Brando is)and made memorable and great performances.Even Robert De Niro who is more Irish than Italian made a great performance.

I believed all their performances,even if they are not all or mostly sicilian.

MFM,

I totally agree with you. Both Caan & Brando were wonderful and neither are Italian. Both were believeable in the parts and we don't know of what heritage they are from,(at least Brando's) In GF they are playing Italians, and it seemed believeable. Again, I refer to my previous posts re A.G., he does "not" look the part at all!! Of course, that's my opinion and If there is a GF4, I am sure they won't ask for my opinion!!!!

"they might, they just might"(Tom Hagen) well i've all ready made my plans. Hopefully there won't be a GFIV

M4M wrote :
That's right ! I heard him say that he BECAME Italian when studying his character for "Mean Streets" and started to live in Little Italy and hang out with the local ppl to build his character. He also said he doesn't speak Italian or Sicilian (neither does Pacino) and had a language coach to teach him the right pronunciation.

I don't have anything against Andy Garcia but like some of you pointed out, he's very much involved in Cuban events and every time I watch GFIII it takes me quite some time to "accept" him as a Sicilian character, it's one of the (many) flaws of the movie, yet I love it !

Almammater

I have to say Kurgan is exactly right. In this subtle role in Ocean's 11 (the best in the movie by the way) Garcia plays a calm, stylishly dressed (very similar to Michael's suits in Part II)tough guy who thinks with his head.

Though this doesn't sound like Vincent Mancini in 1979 - Part III - think how his experiences (Mary's death, Michael's failing health and Connie's anger)could have shaped him into middle age. Recognising Michael's warning about his temper, Vincent could recognise that the only way to regalvanise the Corleone family is by adopting the same composure that kept his uncle at the top for thirty years. And not his father's short temper that got him killed within a few years as Acting Don.

Based on his performance in Ocean's 11 I believe Garcia could do an outstanding job as a middle aged Vincent. Vincent Mancini was born in 1948, so would be in his early fifties if Part IV was set in 2001/2002. I believe Garcia was born in 1956. At 46 he would only have to play a little older as a contemporay Vincent. As long as the new movie is set anytime from 1990 Garcia could be flexible about age.

He wouldn't have to overdo things like Al as Michael who turned from vigorous 50 into one of the oldest looking 63 years I've ever seen. Hell, I believe Al even got his teeth filed down to help. Talk about method acting!!!!!!

I urge everyone to see Ocean's 11 for Garcia and you will realise what Kurgan means.
Incidentally, apart from Andy it's not a great movie - so be warned.

I just hope Coppola is listening out there.

It takes you long to adapt to his performace , i watch the whole movie and can't adapt to him being a Sicilian but to each his own. With that out of the way, Andy becoming Micheal would be very one uninovative and two unacceptable one of the many reasons i didn't like GFIII was that they tried to make it like the first one too much in some ways like they have Vincent kill Zaza because "Al Neri: if Micheal survives this. Vincent:Zaza might not even let uncle Micheal survive this." i think they tried to make it to simular to the first one the same music playing when Vincent was made the Don perhaps they were trying to bring some old magic back but it just couldn't be done. If Micheal was that much like Vito would it be any Entertainment in watching GFII, would there have been a GFII, would it have been as good as it was. It ENDS with GFII NO MORE that was THE CORLEONE empire and it ended with that last shot of micheal the tale of the CORLEONE family ended with Micheal completly unvunarable and having gotten rid of his enemies and chinks in the Corleone family's fortress(all traitors). Well that's what i think at least.

Guinea,

Like I said before, you and I are in complete agreement on the A.G. matter.

However, I still think a GF4 might work if they went back to the Young/Middle aged Vito years. But then again, like someone else said, it might become a soap opera and not a series. However, if anyone could pull it off, FFC could!!

Well i'm glad someone else sees things from perspective. But i don't think a GFIV should be made still that is all.