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Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem?

Posted By: Liggio

Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 03:50 AM

Do other criminal organizations have rats too, like Hells Angels or drug cartels, for instance?
Posted By: jace

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 03:56 AM

All groups have them, groups like the Mexicans and biker gangs go after them in prison by having a member ask for protective custody. After being placed there they attack and occasionally try to kill the rat. That's crazy to me.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 04:04 AM

Yeah common sense tells me everyone has them, but you never really hear about everyone else's rats. I've seen people online talk about how other groups are so much more loyal and stick closer to the code of silence. I've always thought that was bullshit personally.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 12:09 PM

in Italy there are rats from Nigeria, Albania, Romania and other countries, so yes, every criminal group has rats more or less
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Do other criminal organizations have rats too, like Hells Angels or drug cartels, for instance?


Even the ruthless Aryan Brotherhood or the Mexican Mafia and the Cartels had rats but they arent so glamour like the mafia and nobody made a movie on them.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Do other criminal organizations have rats too, like Hells Angels or drug cartels, for instance?



That is from a quicly reasearch:

Aryan Brotherhood
Michael Thompson
Kevin Roach (2006)
Brant Daniel (2023).

Mexican Mafia

Ramon Mendoza
Rene Enriquez

Hell's Angels

Clarence Addie Crouch (Testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee (1983) For Educational Purposes)
Yves "Apache" Trudeau (1985) HA Canada most prolific AH killers with 40 murders
Anthony Tait (1987)
Dany Kane (in 1994 because felt humilited by the HA),
David Atwell
Paul Derry(2020)
Joshua O’Bryan (2020)
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 01:30 PM

You can compare every other criminal organization:

Every Biker Gang
Every Cartel
Every Chinese OC
Every Russian OC
Every Albanian OC
Every, EVERY, EVERY

COLLECTIVELY and the they will not add up to the amount of money and resources that has been spent by our Govt to go after LCN.

No other organization would have Fared as well as LCN has.

Every other organization would of been WIPED OFF THE MAP, worse than DEFUNCT.

Facts, FACTS

Posted By: Havana

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 05:37 PM

Any gang that has members charged and overindicted under RICO prob ably has rats who will take a deal that includes cooperating. The government is basicalling blackmailing some guys by their overindicting them

i some cities you have these Black street gangs who may or may not be offshoots of organizations like Bloods and Crips,etc
The bottom line is that they are now being charged under RICO because they are acting as a racketeering enterprise using violence in businesses like drug dealing.

When the local prosecutor charges them under RICO,their parents and community acts ewith outrage. They think that RICO ahould only be for gangsters like the Mafia,even though these street gangguys in one small might kill more guys that all the mob families in NYS have killed in 10 years over things like their drug turf ,etc.. And a lot of them rat .Maybe not as large a percentage of them rat as we've seen lately of the mafia,because these guys are mostly a lot younger and they or their families might be more susceptible to being killed tthan mafia rats
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/09/24 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Havana
Any gang that has members charged and overindicted under RICO prob ably has rats who will take a deal that includes cooperating. The government is basicalling blackmailing some guys by their overindicting them

i some cities you have these Black street gangs who may or may not be offshoots of organizations like Bloods and Crips,etc
The bottom line is that they are now being charged under RICO because they are acting as a racketeering enterprise using violence in businesses like drug dealing.

When the local prosecutor charges them under RICO,their parents and community acts ewith outrage. They think that RICO ahould only be for gangsters like the Mafia,even though these street gangguys in one small might kill more guys that all the mob families in NYS have killed in 10 years over things like their drug turf ,etc.. And a lot of them rat .Maybe not as large a percentage of them rat as we've seen lately of the mafia,because these guys are mostly a lot younger and they or their families might be more susceptible to being killed tthan mafia rats


Many blacks dont flip because the prison cells are better that thei places where lives.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples


Hell's Angels

Clarence Addie Crouch (Testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee (1983) For Educational Purposes)
Yves "Apache" Trudeau (1985) HA Canada most prolific AH killers with 40 murders
Anthony Tait (1987)
Dany Kane (in 1994 because felt humilited by the HA),
David Atwell
Paul Derry(2020)
Joshua O’Bryan (2020)


With a membership of over 6,000, and 467 chapters in 59 countries, they have very few turncoats.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples


Hell's Angels

Clarence Addie Crouch (Testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee (1983) For Educational Purposes)
Yves "Apache" Trudeau (1985) HA Canada most prolific AH killers with 40 murders
Anthony Tait (1987)
Dany Kane (in 1994 because felt humilited by the HA),
David Atwell
Paul Derry(2020)
Joshua O’Bryan (2020)


With a membership of over 6,000, and 467 chapters in 59 countries, they have very few turncoats.


Thats because I focus on USA and Canada for sure there many more that dont made news plus they arent overexposed like the mob.There are many who still believe the excuse that not all motorcyclists are criminals but rather rebels who love wearing leather and riding motorbikes.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 10:27 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_John_Hill

Another rat in Australia.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 11:29 AM

I agree absolutely about the blacks, but don't think for one second they don't rat often. How do you think most of the murders on 48 Hours are solved? Plus I was incarcerated with them if you're not part of their clique or involved in something that affects them they snitch. Plus there's Nicky Barnes, Frank Lucas, and who's that fucker who was killed recently? At least they're not afraid to kill rats I'll give them that.
Posted By: British

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 12:10 PM

Any criminal group where people face jail will always have rats or as we call them in the UK a grass!
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 12:12 PM

Its part of the game.
Every organization got snitches, every race got snitches.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 12:16 PM

Also, lets not forget that even if you’re not a full patch hells angels, a made man in a family or even a member of a gang, if you make dirt with them and snitch on em, you are still part of this organization in some kind of way.

I guess many associates have snitch on made guy.
Dealers for the HA have snitch on them.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
I agree absolutely about the blacks, but don't think for one second they don't rat often. How do you think most of the murders on 48 Hours are solved? Plus I was incarcerated with them if you're not part of their clique or involved in something that affects them they snitch. Plus there's Nicky Barnes, Frank Lucas, and who's that fucker who was killed recently? At least they're not afraid to kill rats I'll give them that.


Every group is like that. They will snitch of it benefit them and don’t compromise their organization.
Its a rare breed the gangster that will just DON’T talk about anything
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Is the mob the only ones with a rat problem? - 01/10/24 12:28 PM

You're exactly right Blackmobs.
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