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Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss?

Posted By: NYMafia

Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 12:12 AM

Who, to your knowledge, was the longest serving "official" boss to ever head a Cosa Nostra Family in the United States?

And how long was his tenure as "Representante" ?
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 01:36 PM

Stefano Magaddino over 50 years as Boss over Buffalo.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Stefano Magaddino over 50 years as Boss over Buffalo.


From 1922 to 1974.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 04:17 PM

Yes Magaddino. Jack Tocco was the godfather in Detroit for 35 years.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 04:23 PM

Santo Trafficante Jr. led the Trafficante crime family from 1954 to 1987.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 04:46 PM

Tony Accardo was pretty much "the guy" for a total of 45 years
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Yes Magaddino. Jack Tocco was the godfather in Detroit for 35 years.


Joe Zerilli was boss for 41 years
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 07:30 PM

Good info everybody...Here's another long serving "Official" Family boss - James (Jimmy the Hat) Lanza.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe that Lanza was named the "Representante" of the San Francisco borgata around 1961. And although its debatable how active this Cosa Nostra network really was in their later years, Lanza was still believed to have technically retained his official title, as the "Boss" of San Francisco, until the time of his death, in 2006.

Thats a 45 year tenure...not bad!



Posted By: Dwalin2011

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 08:21 PM

Carlo Caputo from Madison was also a long-time boss, even though it was a small family; he died in 1993 and was boss for a few decades I think, although I am not sure when exactly did the Madison family become inactive, possibily long before his death.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Tony Accardo was pretty much "the guy" for a total of 45 years


He was only Boss for around 10 years so he doesn't even come close to making this list.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/19/23 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Dwalin2011
Carlo Caputo from Madison was also a long-time boss, even though it was a small family; he died in 1993 and was boss for a few decades I think, although I am not sure when exactly did the Madison family become inactive, possibily long before his death.


Madison's Caputo Family was a very interesting bunch. And I think you're right, although his borgata was said to only be comprised of approximately a dozen or so men who were thought to have been largely "retired" by the 1940s, Carlo Caputo was Madison's acknowledged boss for many decades. Although its debatable about their activities and stature, Caputo, himself, did fabulously. He was said to have parleyed his rackets profits in a multimillion-dollar real estate portfolio.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 12:28 AM

Raymond L. S. Patriarca (1950-1984) also over three decades.
Posted By: mobcleve

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Tony Accardo was pretty much "the guy" for a total of 45 years


He was only Boss for around 10 years so he doesn't even come close to making this list.



Accardo had ultimate power and answered to no one for 40+ years….regardless of the title
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 02:35 AM

That's not true but okay
Posted By: Millspgh

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 02:47 AM

Who else was above Accardo then?
Once he became Boss, I agree, he had final say on anything he wanted to and he named the next bosses. Call them “street bosses” if you will, but Accardo was top dog.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Millspgh
Who else was above Accardo then?
Once he became Boss, I agree, he had final say on anything he wanted to and he named the next bosses. Call them “street bosses” if you will, but Accardo was top dog.


Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Felice (Paul the Waiter) Ricca was thought to have been the true "behind the scenes" boss until the early 1970s, with Tony Accardo, who had essentially served as Ricca's underboss/consigliere, assuming the top spot after that.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 09:12 AM

Paul Ricca boss and representative 1932 - 1943 (imprisoned 1944 - 1946)

From 1947 until 1972 Ricca was the Outfits top boss and besides guys like Accardo, Giancana and Battaglia being the official representatives during certain time periods and having the right to vote on the round table, still Ricca's opinion and final word held more weight to the other family bosses than the vote of his "chief executive", which in fact was often created previously by being consulted with Ricca first. Giancana couldve killed Bonanno with the blink of an eye but Ricca didnt approve it.

This means that Ricca was at the top of the organization for about 36 years.

Now, lets look at Accardo...boss and representative 1947 - 1956

In 1957 Accardo became Giancanas senior advisor and was ALMOST on the same level as Ricca, but he rarely dealt with commission stuff by being mostly concentrated on the Outfit and its leading admin. So I personally dont see Accardo as official representative for Chicago or having Ricca's last word from 1957 until 1972. Yes, Accardo was an advisor and sometimes accompanied Giancana on commission meetings, like the one in Miami, but ONLY as senior advisor with previous experience.

When Ricca died in 1972, Accardo became the top boss either from 72 until 1983/84 or until his death in 1992. In 1976/77 Accardo presided over induction ceremonies but in 1983 it was up to Aiuppa.

This means that Accardo was at the top for either 21 years or 29 years, depending on how we look at the situation.

As we can see, Ricca was probably the longest serving family boss for the Chi mob.

And we also must not forget DiFronzo....he had similar career as Riccas or Accardos
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 09:53 AM

San Francisco and Madison was more than a crew that a family. Buffalo was different.
Posted By: Millspgh

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Toodoped
Paul Ricca boss and representative 1932 - 1943 (imprisoned 1944 - 1946)

From 1947 until 1972 Ricca was the Outfits top boss and besides guys like Accardo, Giancana and Battaglia being the official representatives during certain time periods and having the right to vote on the round table, still Ricca's opinion and final word held more weight to the other family bosses than the vote of his "chief executive", which in fact was often created previously by being consulted with Ricca first. Giancana couldve killed Bonanno with the blink of an eye but Ricca didnt approve it.

This means that Ricca was at the top of the organization for about 36 years.

Now, lets look at Accardo...boss and representative 1947 - 1956

In 1957 Accardo became Giancanas senior advisor and was ALMOST on the same level as Ricca, but he rarely dealt with commission stuff by being mostly concentrated on the Outfit and its leading admin. So I personally dont see Accardo as official representative for Chicago or having Ricca's last word from 1957 until 1972. Yes, Accardo was an advisor and sometimes accompanied Giancana on commission meetings, like the one in Miami, but ONLY as senior advisor with previous experience.

When Ricca died in 1972, Accardo became the top boss either from 72 until 1983/84 or until his death in 1992. In 1976/77 Accardo presided over induction ceremonies but in 1983 it was up to Aiuppa.

This means that Accardo was at the top for either 21 years or 29 years, depending on how we look at the situation.

As we can see, Ricca was probably the longest serving family boss for the Chi mob.

And we also must not forget DiFronzo....he had similar career as Riccas or Accardos


Well said Toodoped, thank you- I can agree Ricca was above Accardo
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 02:46 PM

You're welcome
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 04:36 PM

John DiFronzo boss 1993 - 1997

Sometime around 1997 or 98 DiFronzo allegedly became the new Outfit's top boss until 2012 I think, or until he began developing serious health issues. So for a boss during the new era, I think DiFronzo did quite good for being an Outfit top member for around 19 or 20 years.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 07:18 PM

List of longest official serving bosses for the second largest city at the time...
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1. Ricca (around 36 years)

2. Accardo (between 21 and 29 years)

3. DiFronzo (around 20 years)

4. Aiuppa (around 10 or 12 years)

5. Giancana (6 or 7 years)

I think Solly D also belongs to this list but Im still not sure regarding his tenure as official boss.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 08:51 PM

Carlos Marcello from 1947 to 1993.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 08:57 PM

Yes, Marcello was another long-serving boss. I believe he took over the reins from Silver Sam Carollo.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 09:28 PM

The flaw in your list is your years for Tony Accardo and Paul Ricca overlap with the tenures of other official Bosseslol you continue to try to reinvent Mafia in Chicago but your own fantasy doesn't change reality.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 09:38 PM

ehi stupido, siediti e stai zitto!
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/20/23 10:25 PM

Joe Bonanno of the Bonanno crime family, which he ran from 1931 to 1968.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
ehi stupido, siediti e stai zitto!



Lol that's right lash out because someone says something different than you and your boyfriend. Been your MO since the beginning.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 01:49 AM

Thats not lashing out, thats just telling you off. Everybody on this forum knows damn well what you are, and why you visit here. You're a troublemaker and a troll who comes on GBB to insult people and start arguments.

Now go crawl back into whatever dark hole idiots like you crawl out of. We don't want your kind around here, get it?

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Joe Bonanno of the Bonanno crime family, which he ran from 1931 to 1968.


True. Another one was his compare Joe Profaci, who had a similar run, from approximately 1931 (maybe earlier,) till he died in 1962. A thirty-one year run at the top of the heap.
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 02:07 AM

Lol NYMafia telling you you're wrong isn't being a troll or troublemaker. You just don't like critics and are upset your last sanctuary where you run amuck saying whatever you want while everyone listens to you blindly is no longer your safe spacelol every time me or someone else has questioned you you've gotten rude and defensive and then your boyfriend jumps in to defend you just like you do the same when he gets called out.

Tell me how did Tony Accardo serve 25+years as official Boss when that overlaps with other official Bosses tenures? Don't try to reinvent the Mafia's structure like others to make that make senselol

Tony Accardo was official Boss for around 10 years and that's that.

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Joe Bonanno of the Bonanno crime family, which he ran from 1931 to 1968.


Yep. If he didn't have that internal conflict within his borgata, with the longevity he had? Lol. Bonanno would have remained boss until the day he died at 97, in 2002.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Joe Bonanno of the Bonanno crime family, which he ran from 1931 to 1968.


Yep. If he didn't have that internal conflict within his borgata, with the longevity he had? Lol. Bonanno would have remained boss until the day he died at 97, in 2002.


In 1968, after a heart attack, Joe Bonanno ended the family warfare by agreeing to retire as boss and move to Arizona.
Posted By: jace

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 03:50 AM

Joe Bonanno and Magaddino both had very long runs, any boss who was a boss in 1932 and lasted till Valachi's time has to be in consideration.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Thats not lashing out, thats just telling you off. Everybody on this forum knows damn well what you are, and why you visit here. You're a troublemaker and a troll who comes on GBB to insult people and start arguments.

Now go crawl back into whatever dark hole idiots like you crawl out of. We don't want your kind around here, get it?


Mafia911 aka Angelina aka Shiny Face is making problems again??? Lol Whats he saying? That hes a fag? We already know that!!! Lol He shines like Patrick Ewing in the 4th quarter lol The guy must be on some therapy or shit like that which fucked up both his skin and brain. Fuck that hermaphrodite lol his brain is completely damaged and theres no turning back.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/21/23 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Thats not lashing out, thats just telling you off. Everybody on this forum knows damn well what you are, and why you visit here. You're a troublemaker and a troll who comes on GBB to insult people and start arguments.

Now go crawl back into whatever dark hole idiots like you crawl out of. We don't want your kind around here, get it?


Mafia911 aka Angelina aka Shiny Face is making problems again??? Lol Whats he saying? That hes a fag? We already know that!!! Lol He shines like Patrick Ewing in the 4th quarter lol The guy must be on some therapy or shit like that which fucked up both his skin and brain. Fuck that hermaphrodite lol his brain is completely damaged and theres no turning back.

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TD, is that who this imbecile is? I know you mentioned it before, but honesty, I forgot. (it just goes to show how much importance I place on no-talent guys like this.) Lol.

Maybe if this imbecile payed more attention to his own affairs, instead of coming here to troll and insult people, his failing podcast and website wouldn't be failing. Maybe his podcast and website wouldn't be stuck in limbo for months on end without any current content...And maybe...just maybe, had they worked harder at research and had a little ingenuity, they could have built up some sort of a following and added subscribers.

But, alas, instead, none of them knew what to do, or how to do it. So they hate others whom they view as being successful at what they failed at...typical of these types of empty suits.

And they especially hate and despise the ButtonGuys of TNYM website and Mob Fireside Chat podcast because we've enjoyed such success...A success they can only wish and dream they had.
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Now, I COMPLETELY understand why he and his fellow no-talent friends over at BH hate us so much. They're filled with jealousy and envy over our success, because they don't have a clue as to how to achieve any form of success themselves, So, naturally, all they have left is their hatred and anger toward us....thats why they constantly lash out. But that's ok. because, like they say, Mafia101 (aka; Angelina or Shiny Face)...

"We've built a castle with all the bricks of jealousy and envy that no-talent clowns like you have thrown at us!" LOL


So have a nice day..."The Other Guy"





Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/22/23 06:51 AM

Same creep. Maybe we should all vote or make a poll so we can get rid of this troublemaker....
Posted By: CNote

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/22/23 07:31 AM

Don't talk about Patrick Ewing, he's a Saint.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/22/23 07:54 AM

All hail Ewing and John Starks lol with Ewing shining like an angel lol
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/22/23 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Toodoped
Same creep. Maybe we should all vote or make a poll so we can get rid of this troublemaker....


There's a thought
Posted By: Mafia101

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 11/22/23 10:15 PM

Your constant bullying won't change the way I post and it doesn't magically make you guys correct.
Posted By: Trapper

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 12/21/23 10:30 PM

Actually it was Paul Ricca who held the true power. But those two made a great team.
Posted By: Millspgh

Re: Who Was The Longest Serving Family Boss? - 12/23/23 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Joe Bonanno of the Bonanno crime family, which he ran from 1931 to 1968.


Yep. If he didn't have that internal conflict within his borgata, with the longevity he had? Lol. Bonanno would have remained boss until the day he died at 97, in 2002.


I wonder if Joe stayed in charge of his family, if he could have stayed out of prison? He would have been under the watchful eye of the Feds in NYC and it’s doubtful he would’ve gotten past the Commission trial or some of the other big cases of the 80s and 90s.
That makes me wonder if Bonanno and the Chin were both in charge in 1985, if Gotti would have gotten taken out for the Castellano hit? Chin tried but they would have been more powerful together. Or if Gotti and Sammy would have even done that hit.
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