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Posted By: Hollander
Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/21/23 10:24 PM
Posted By: NYMafia
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/21/23 10:25 PM
Is this currently out?
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/21/23 10:30 PM
I like Julio Iglesias haha me too.
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/21/23 10:30 PM
Posted By: Strax
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/22/23 01:08 PM
I will watch it, but it will probably be the same things they covered over and over, i wish they would cover some other mafia stories, instead of Gotti , murder of Castellano and so on. Millions times same thing.
Posted By: JCrusher
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/22/23 08:07 PM
I will watch it, but it will probably be the same things they covered over and over, i wish they would cover some other mafia stories, instead of Gotti , murder of Castellano and so on. Millions times same thing
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. Agreed. it’s become very stale.
Posted By: jace
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/22/23 09:09 PM
It looks like garbage, plus who would want to to see the Hindi take on him. It may be unintentionally comical or annoying.
Posted By: Millspgh
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/23/23 11:28 AM
Produced by S. Gravano, whoever that is.
Kidding
Anthony Ruggiano is provides insights. So how can we take this seriously. What don't we know already?
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/24/23 10:39 PM
It looks like garbage, plus who would want to to see the Hindi take on him. It may be unintentionally comical or annoying.
LOL Hindi was the only trailer I could find on youtube haha..
Netflix aimes at a global audience so I can understand they go again with Gotti we mafia buffs heard/read the stories hundreds of times but in India for example most don't.
Posted By: Millspgh
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 12:58 AM
I watched this whole thing tonight.
It’s not bad, most of us know the main details but it was interesting to see the different agencies that worked against each other to try and be the first to get Gotti.
It was good hearing from the prosecutors and the guys who installed the bugs and cameras, etc.
It was even interesting hearing from the media reporters who covered it back in the 80s.
Not a bad series.
What did everyone else think of it?
Posted By: Liggio
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 01:30 AM
If Gotti was never caught blabbing on tape he could've lasted at least another decade, even wearing all the fancy suits he wanted. I'm shocked that he said enough to fill the pages of a whole book, The Gotti Tapes.
Posted By: Liggio
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 01:32 AM
Is this supposed to be in India? Maybe they want other people to know his story.
Posted By: Millspgh
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 01:37 AM
If Gotti was never caught blabbing on tape he could've lasted at least another decade, even wearing all the fancy suits he wanted. I'm shocked that he said enough to fill the pages of a whole book, The Gotti Tapes.
Agreed, if he kept his mouth shut, didn’t parade his captains around every week for the feds to track, he could have had a respectable run and a respectable reign, unlike how it’s looked at now.
Oh yea, and if he killed Sammy at some point too.
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 01:39 AM
Is this supposed to be in India? Maybe they want other people to know his story.
Netflix is global it is by far the largest online streaming service in terms of subscribers worldwide.
Watched most of it, when I saw Sal polisi and ruggiano as the mob contributors I didn’t have much faith, especially as we all know the story inside out. But it actually worked really well and gave us extra insight from the other sides perspective. It’s also the first time I’ve seen Diane giacalone give an opinion on the Willy boy situation where she effectively served him up to be killed to try and force him to testify - she takes no responsibility which explains how she has dealt with that over the years. She mentions that his lifestyle wasn’t conducive to a long life - guy was in his 50s and had been a CI for over 15 years..
Always wondered what her take was on it and it’s effectively “he was a bad guy and bad guys get killed” lol. She should’ve been prosecuted for that
Posted By: Liggio
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 10:31 AM
I think it's a crime that Martin Scorsese made that bullshit lying ass movie about Frank Sheeran when there still hasn't been anything made on the DeMeo Crew, Vic and Gaspipe, Nicky Scarfo, Carlos Marcello, and many many others.
Posted By: Big_Tuna93
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 12:56 PM
I didn't think it was bad. Obviously if you follow this genre, there isn't a whole lot of information that isn't out there about Gotti, but as another poster said it was neat seeing Diane Giacalone give her perspective and speak on the Willie Boy Johnson situation. As an aside, other than being Fat Andy's kid, was Ruggiano Jr ever straightened out? I think he alluded to being a made guy in the documentary, but I never thought he was?
Posted By: Liggio
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 03:24 PM
It wasn't bad, just completely fictional. I expect Hollywood to venture a little bit from the truth, but that movie took it too far. Same with The Iceman movie.
Posted By: jace
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 03:33 PM
I think the government gave an okay for Diane Giacalone to give up Willly Johnson. She deserves the blame, but she given movie deal and has been given great paying jobs afterwards. No punishment.
Posted By: JCrusher
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 05:35 PM
I didn't think it was bad. Obviously if you follow this genre, there isn't a whole lot of information that isn't out there about Gotti, but as another poster said it was neat seeing Diane Giacalone give her perspective and speak on the Willie Boy Johnson situation. As an aside, other than being Fat Andy's kid, was Ruggiano Jr ever straightened out? I think he alluded to being a made guy in the documentary, but I never thought he was
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. Ruggiano Jr was never straightened out but was proposed according to him but went to jail
Posted By: Turnbull
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 07:40 PM
I think it's a crime that Martin Scorsese made that bullshit lying ass movie about Frank Sheeran when there still hasn't been anything made on the DeMeo Crew, Vic and Gaspipe, Nicky Scarfo, Carlos Marcello, and many many others.
It was bullshit about Sheeran. Some good performances, though, especially Pacino, Pesce and Romano.
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 08:34 PM
Francis Joseph Sheeran was an Irish drunk but he was involved in the Teamsters for many years and was close to Hoffa till the end.
Posted By: Iceveins
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 09:36 PM
I watched episode 1 yesterday and while we all know the main points, it does a good job at not rehashing the same old tired information about Gotti and the investigations into him. I learned several new things, saw new footage, heard new recordings and heard from investigators I'm not familiar with. Furthermore, the documentary is very well edited and I'm looking forward to the next 2 episodes, I recommend it.
Posted By: Big_Tuna93
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 09:46 PM
The new footage and new recordings were what I liked about it the most. Whether you love the guy or hate the guy, there is absolutely no denying that the man had an infectious swagger about him.
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 09:55 PM
The new footage and new recordings were what I liked about it the most. Whether you love the guy or hate the guy, there is absolutely no denying that the man had an infectious swagger about him.
Def John Gotti is our Al Capone !
Posted By: Giacalone
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/25/23 10:39 PM
John Gotti is the reason why a lot of us became interested in this topic. He certainly had style and charisma.
Posted By: Ciment
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/27/23 12:09 PM
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Posted By: Malavita
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/27/23 10:09 PM
Just watched it and i though it was good. It's well produced so even though it's a well documented story, it's still enjoyable to watch.
As posters said, the best part is the law enforcement angle of the documentary. It's interesting to see about the strength and weakness of each cases. Having Giacalone on is also a big scoop.
The weakest part of the documentary is the mob men and woman they interviewed. They didn't bring anything interesting.
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/27/23 10:24 PM
John Gotti is the reason why a lot of us became interested in this topic. He certainly had style and charisma.
Yes Underboss was also one of the first books (when it came out) I read about American Mafia (I was more into Sicilian Mafia at the time)
So episode 3, the FBI guy said that after they bugged the old lady’s apartment they weren’t getting anything good but that every thirty days they had to justify the wire by saying he was getting fruitful conversations. Did he just admit to lying? It’s approximately 47:36 mark. He may have just been trying to sum up the operation but based on how shady the FBI is, and the fact that they were competing against net York’s OCTF, it seems to me he was pulling a fast one.
Posted By: Turnbull
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/29/23 03:37 AM
I was hoping from the title of this series that it would be based on the book of the same title by John Gleeson, the prosecutor in the last Gotti trial, which was pretty interesting.
As others have said: None on this board will learn anything they didn't already know about Gotti from "Get Gotti." But I thought it was well produced, and it was interesting to hear from the judge and law enforcement people in detail, as well as to hear more of the tapes. Giacolone said Willie Boy's murder was "inevitable." Sure: Tell a guy who's been a government informant for 15 years that the government will protect him and then give him up because his murder was "inevitable."
Posted By: jace
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/29/23 03:56 AM
Just watched it and i though it was good. It's well produced so even though it's a well documented story, it's still enjoyable to watch.
As posters said, the best part is the law enforcement angle of the documentary. It's interesting to see about the strength and weakness of each cases. Having Giacalone on is also a big scoop.
The weakest part of the documentary is the mob men and woman they interviewed. They didn't bring anything interesting.
If the mob men interviewed were informers, they are just saying what the government told them to say. I would like it if they had Bruce Cutler on (Maybe they did?) Otherwise it's one-sided.
i love hearing this wiretaps on documentaries....but i really wana know who the informant was that told the FBI or OCTF to put the bug upstaires....thats when it all went down hill otherwise we would of never heard those tapes.
I struggle with taking Ruggiano serious. Yes, there are questions about Polisi's pedigree, but I find him more believable. (Also, prosecutors validated to what he testified.) The woman was more than annoying; I almost turned off due to her. It was great to see and hear Giacalone. She is very engaging, smart and was a looker in her day.
I thought Giacalone was just an ambitious p.o.s who was willing to get someone killed to win the case. She came across quite arrogant too and illogical. Not that I’m on the side of mobsters or rats but what she done was horrific and she should’ve been prosecuted for it. Always thought that from first reading the story. Fascinating to get her on it though regardless of the sins she has on her
Posted By: Hollander
Re: Get Gotti (Netflix) - 10/29/23 09:03 PM
Giacalone knew all of those guys grewing up she went to a Catholic high school, Our Lady of Wisdom Academy in the Italian neighborhood of Ozone Park. The school is on one side of 101st Avenue; on the other is the Bergen Hunt and Fish Club lol.