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Heroin vs Cocaine Profits

Posted By: Blackmobs

Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 01:54 AM

Here some videos comparing the heroin game and the cocaine game.

Crazy how the heroin buisness is more money than the cocaine buisness, pound for pound.



Peter Shue on Heroin Profits vs. Cocaine's

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIYu8-KVTg



Luc Stephen Compares H***in & Coke Profits: Adult Money & Kid Money

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wY22C6RAsXs
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 06:02 AM

Every year 115 tons of heroin from Afghanistan ends up in Europe, the police would not have enough people to deal with the heroin trade.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 06:17 AM

Most street dealers in the Netherlands do not sell heroin. This drug is therefore difficult to obtain. The price of a gram is between €25 and €50.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 09:55 AM

The difference in cost, between a kilo of pure heroin, and a kilo of pure cocaine, is staggering. In fact, it's no comparison at all.

Also, the difference in both strength, and the amount of times each of those two drugs can be "diluted" and "stepped on," as the street vernacular goes, is also staggering.

You could take a "pure" one ounce bag of heroin, "step on it" say 10 times, turn that 1 ounce into 10 ounces, and the heroin would still be amazingly powerful. Strong enough, so that a single doze could still overdose you, and kill you.

But if you took an equal amount of pure cocaine, a one ounce bag, and "stepped on it" 10 times, turning it into 10 ounces? Then you might as well throw it all in the garbage pail, because at that point all you'd have is garbage.
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The ability for the main heroin importers and wholesalers to convert a single kilo into ten or twenty kilos (off that single kilo), thereby making a 1000%, or 2000%, profit overnight is why the heroin trade was always king. Add to that it's potential to create legions of addicts all craving the drug, and you've got yourself a built-in, never ending, supply of customers.

Cocaine, is a different animal. Both in its addictive properties, and the ability of suppliers to "cut it." Most top level cocaine importers-dealers never cut their product. They feared diluting its potency.
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Today, with Fentanyl, its a different story altogether. But back in the day, that deadly substance wasn't even a thing and hadn't been invented yet.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 11:41 AM

The heroin trade is hardcore but when you look at the top guys here no glitter and glamour but these guys are very wealthy and dangerous.
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 12:06 PM

Do y’all have example of crew dealing with cocaine compared to crews dealing with heroin.
Dont have to be in the mafia
Posted By: Blackmobs

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 12:06 PM

Also, was there a kind of Pablo escobar or cali cartel in afghanistan or east asia ?
Posted By: RushStreet

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
The difference in cost, between a kilo of pure heroin, and a kilo of pure cocaine, is staggering. In fact, it's no comparison at all.

Also, the difference in both strength, and the amount of times each of those two drugs can be "diluted" and "stepped on," as the street vernacular goes, is also staggering.

You could take a "pure" one ounce bag of heroin, "step on it" say 10 times, turn that 1 ounce into 10 ounces, and the heroin would still be amazingly powerful. Strong enough, so that a single doze could still overdose you, and kill you.

But if you took an equal amount of pure cocaine, a one ounce bag, and "stepped on it" 10 times, turning it into 10 ounces? Then you might as well throw it all in the garbage pail, because at that point all you'd have is garbage.
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The ability for the main heroin importers and wholesalers to convert a single kilo into ten or twenty kilos (off that single kilo), thereby making a 1000%, or 2000%, profit overnight is why the heroin trade was always king. Add to that it's potential to create legions of addicts all craving the drug, and you've got yourself a built-in, never ending, supply of customers.

Cocaine, is a different animal. Both in its addictive properties, and the ability of suppliers to "cut it." Most top level cocaine importers-dealers never cut their product. They feared diluting its potency.
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Today, with Fentanyl, its a different story altogether. But back in the day, that deadly substance wasn't even a thing and hadn't been invented yet.



I did quite a bit of cocaine 20-25 years ago and we never even knew what fentanyl was. The guy we got our stuff from was a distributor for a family member who lived in Mexico who never stepped on his shit as it would have been a death sentence if he did and they would have gotten word he was doing that. Let me tell you that stuff was the real deal.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also, was there a kind of Pablo escobar or cali cartel in afghanistan or east asia ?


The Afghan drug cartel consists of a dozen or so trafficking dynasties that built the Afghan drug industry from scratch.

In the Caucasus, Iran and Turkey there are major clans involved in the trafficking.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also, was there a kind of Pablo escobar or cali cartel in afghanistan or east asia ?


Yes Khun Sa
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khun_Sa

He was the Escobar of the heroin. He controlled with a small but dangerous army the plantagions between thailan and Myanmar. Was so powerful that between the late 1970s and 1983 even Gaspare Mutolo and the Sicilian Mafia bought his heroin plus the Cia asked to the government to buy all his dope for stop the overdoses in the States.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 03:47 PM

Anyway the synthetic drugs are more profitable.
The cartels have good chemists capable of synthesizing fentanyl.
The fentanyl is more powerful and they don't need to wait for the poppies or the coca plants and easly contraband it to USA.
Posted By: RushStreet

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Anyway the synthetic drugs are more profitable.
The cartels have good chemists capable of synthesizing fentanyl.
The fentanyl is more powerful and they don't need to wait for the poppies or the coca plants and easly contraband it to USA.


There will always be a black market for drugs no matter how many you legalize. You think Fentanly is powerful? No one can fathom what is going to be introduced over the next 10 years , which includes pot. Get ready because its only going to get more hardcore.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by RushStreet
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Anyway the synthetic drugs are more profitable.
The cartels have good chemists capable of synthesizing fentanyl.
The fentanyl is more powerful and they don't need to wait for the poppies or the coca plants and easly contraband it to USA.


There will always be a black market for drugs no matter how many you legalize. You think Fentanly is powerful? No one can fathom what is going to be introduced over the next 10 years , which includes pot. Get ready because its only going to get more hardcore.


There is the carfentanyl that is more powerful than fentanyl.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/07/23 07:21 PM

Urfi Çetinkaya is the king of kings of the heroin trade. Turkish media calls him 'the Pablo Escobar of Turkey' at the top of the largest heroin gang in the world.
Posted By: dsd

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/10/23 04:57 PM

The heroin you get in the usa isn't the same H that most of Europe gets. US H is #4.
Afghani H is almost always #3 which is what you'll get in the UK. You can't inject it without adding a acid but it can be smoked on foil unlike #4. ( usa also has black tar H, different process.

In UK you can make big Big money dealing H even as a small timer. But be prepared for trouble from cops and robbers.

Don't think fentanyl is really in the UK much.
Posted By: RushStreet

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/10/23 05:18 PM

Does Fentanyl exist in Colombia and the cocaine down there? Or is it still pretty pure stuff overall that you will find in South America that is sold on the streets?

I imagine cocaine doesn't get cut with Fentanyl until it reaches Mexico? Yes or no?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/11/23 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by dsd
The heroin you get in the usa isn't the same H that most of Europe gets. US H is #4.
Afghani H is almost always #3 which is what you'll get in the UK. You can't inject it without adding a acid but it can be smoked on foil unlike #4. ( usa also has black tar H, different process.

In UK you can make big Big money dealing H even as a small timer. But be prepared for trouble from cops and robbers.

Don't think fentanyl is really in the UK much.


I know but in Canada there has been an increase.
It's the very potent Afghan white heroin not brown powder or black tar heroin.
Some nutcase dealer sold it as cocaine few years ago in Amsterdam several British tourists died after snorting it.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/11/23 01:21 AM

Now the role of the taliban is interesting on the one hand they ban it and destroy poppy fields, but on the other they are intertwined with the Afghan Cartel and it's their biggest export product.
Posted By: RushStreet

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/11/23 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by dsd
The heroin you get in the usa isn't the same H that most of Europe gets. US H is #4.
Afghani H is almost always #3 which is what you'll get in the UK. You can't inject it without adding a acid but it can be smoked on foil unlike #4. ( usa also has black tar H, different process.

In UK you can make big Big money dealing H even as a small timer. But be prepared for trouble from cops and robbers.

Don't think fentanyl is really in the UK much.


I know but in Canada there has been an increase.
It's the very potent Afghan white heroin not brown powder or black tar heroin.
Some nutcase dealer sold it as cocaine few years ago in Amsterdam several British tourists died after snorting it.


If I’m his supplier I’m finding him and putting a bullet in his head.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Heroin vs Cocaine Profits - 02/11/23 02:06 AM

That will probably happen to him, he was suspected of attempted murder, but only got 1 year. He was found not guilty of dozens of cases of people who became very ill or even died.

Authorites warned the tourists.

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