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Posted By: NYMafia

FREE: Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership Chart - 01/20/23 11:36 PM

ButtonGuys has decided to post (without our paywall), absolutely FREE, something that we consider to be a special story for our fellow GBB forum members.

This particular story, and it's sister membership chart, is a unique, never-before-researched, or created, window into the vast criminal network headed by the legendary Meyer Lansky.

The story and chart you are about to see required many months of research and drafting of me. It is a one-of-a-kind peak into the shadowy "Jewish Syndicate" Lansky controlled...We hope you enjoy it!

https://thenewyorkmafia.com/the-meyer-lansky-mob-hierarchy-chart/
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE: A very special treat from us, to all of you! - 01/21/23 01:54 AM

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Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE: A very special treat from us, to all of you! - 01/21/23 05:06 PM

As you pursue and review the list of names on the Lansky chart, you'll notice several bona-fide mafiosi. Not just "Jimmy Blue Eyes" Alo, who was Meyer's longtime friend, partner, and Mafia benefactor, but also several relatively important "made" Genovese Family soldiers.

They include Matteo (Matty Brown) Fortunato, who later rose to a "capo" status, soldier Nicholas (Bobby Blanch) Belangi, and soldier Paolo (Paul) Marchione. Also connected to Lansky's crew was Matty's brother, Eugenio (Gene Brown) Fortunato, a top family associate.

The Fortunato brothers and Marchione were partnered and supervised gambling and other rackets around the Albany and Saratoga Springs sections of Upper NYS for Lansky and Alo. Belangi was a key operative, money courier, and the sometime driver-bodyguard for Meyer whenever he visited NYC.
Posted By: Nitro

Re: FREE: A very special treat from us, to all of you! - 01/21/23 09:12 PM

Great work! Rich information.

A few comments from a European perspective.
He also works closely, I believe, with Charles "Charlie the Blade" Tourine. Especially in Cuba.

From that time there is also a connection through Cellini to Joe Nesline from DC. Later, these two also have activities (gambling and boxing) in Europe with local groups (especially in Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam, Netherlands).

I don't know if it is an exaggeration to call Joe Nesline a member, but there are some cross connections. In any case, there are some connections from the European activities back to the Genovese and the Boston guys. But the original connection came through players from Cuba and Lanskys operation.

Another interesting aspect is that the son Louis Schrager is today a very rich real estate mogul.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE: A very special treat from us, to all of you! - 01/21/23 10:10 PM

Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?

Dino, Eddie, Bobby, and Goff Cellini were such a big part of it, many years ago I watched an interview with Dino he was already ill but he seems a charismatic and nice guy.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: FREE: A very special treat from us, to all of you! - 01/21/23 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?


It's not a bad guess. The amount of money that group got out of Vegas alone was astronomical
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE: A very special treat from us, to all of you! - 01/21/23 10:32 PM

They started with cigar stores hence the early links to Cuba.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/21/23 10:37 PM

Al Malnik's house in Palm Beach. Who said crime doesn't pay?

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Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?


It's not a bad guess. The amount of money that group got out of Vegas alone was astronomical


NY, Vegas, Florida, Cuba, The Carribean, Mexico, Europe.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?


It's not a bad guess. The amount of money that group got out of Vegas alone was astronomical


NY, Vegas, Florida, Cuba, The Carribean, Mexico, Europe.



His European interests have always been of great interest to me. Particularly his involvement with Monte Carlo.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?


It's not a bad guess. The amount of money that group got out of Vegas alone was astronomical


NY, Vegas, Florida, Cuba, The Carribean, Mexico, Europe.



His European interests have always been of great interest to me. Particularly his involvement with Monte Carlo.


Monte Carlo, London, Germany, Amsterdam, Eastern Europe they had casinos all over Europe.
Posted By: jace

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 03:02 AM

What proof is there that he had casino interests in all those countries? Vegas and Cuba, yes. Maybe Monte Carlo, but when Eastern Europe and Amsterdam come up....I mean, get realistic.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 08:47 AM

They had some investments here but not on a very big scale. Cellini had ties to Europe, the Middle East and Africa, he was a distributor of slot machines.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nitro
Great work! Rich information.

A few comments from a European perspective.
He also works closely, I believe, with Charles "Charlie the Blade" Tourine. Especially in Cuba.

From that time there is also a connection through Cellini to Joe Nesline from DC. Later, these two also have activities (gambling and boxing) in Europe with local groups (especially in Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam, Netherlands).

I don't know if it is an exaggeration to call Joe Nesline a member, but there are some cross connections. In any case, there are some connections from the European activities back to the Genovese and the Boston guys. But the original connection came through players from Cuba and Lanskys operation.

Another interesting aspect is that the son Louis Schrager is today a very rich real estate mogul.


Thanks Nitro!

And you're correct, although he had his own Jewish based mob, Lansky also worked with many mafiosi, not only from the Luciano/Costello/Genovese Family, but with many different mafiosi representing Families throughout the United States.

Genovese soldier, Charlie the Blade Tourine, and his close associate-aide, Joe Nesline, being among them. They, and the Cellini brothers (who were directly "with" Lansky), also partnered in London, England in the running of some legal gambling casino operations over there.

Ans Schrager? lol, yes. Funny stuff. His son Ian went partners with Rubell in the famous Manhattan nightspot, Studio 54.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/22/23 09:17 PM

Now that's ambition !!!

The list below reflects some of the major business entities he secretly owned or held stock in, invested in, or controlled. And this is just a smidgeon of all the unknown investments he and the mob made over the years to “wash” their illicit loot.

• Singapore Motel, Miami Beach
• Windrift Hotel, Miami,
• Carousel Motel, Miami, FL
• Hawaiian Isle Motel, Miami, FL
• Crown Hotel, Miami Beach, FL
• Deauville Hotel, Miami, FL
• Eden Roc Hotel, Miami, FL
• Marco Polo Hotel, Miami, FL
• Versailles Hotel, Miami, FL
• Seacoast Towers, Miami Beach, FL
• Waikiki Hotel, Miami, FL
• Chateau Motel Inc., Miami, FL
• Sands Hotel & Casino, LV
• Fontainebleau Hotel, Miami, FL
• Flamingo Hotel & Casino, LV
• Fremont Hotel & Casino, LV
• Thunderbird Hotel, LV
• Executive House Apartments, Inc., Miami, FL
• Hotel Havana-Riviera & Casino, Cuba
• Montemartre Nightclub & Casino, Cuba
• The San Souci, Cuba
• Varadere International Hotel-Casino, Cuba
• Savilla-Biltmore, Cuba
• Monte Carlo Casino, Freeport, Grand Bahamas
• The Sands Hotel & Casino, LV
• The Horseshoe Hotel & Casino, LV
• Algiers Motel, LV
• El Cortez Hotel, LV
• Aztec Motel Inc., Miami, FL
• Miami International Airport Hotel, Miami, FL
• Carlsbad Spa, Broward County, FL
• Colonial Inn, Broward County, FL
• La Boheme Club, Broward County, FL
• Club Green Acres, Broward County, FL
• The Shore Club, Broward County, FL
• South Pacific Polynesian Restaurant, Hallandale, FL
• The Colony Club, London, England
• Mary Carter Paint Company
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Now that's ambition !!!

The list below reflects some of the major business entities he secretly owned or held stock in, invested in, or controlled. And this is just a smidgeon of all the unknown investments he and the mob made over the years to “wash” their illicit loot.

• Singapore Motel, Miami Beach
• Windrift Hotel, Miami,
• Carousel Motel, Miami, FL
• Hawaiian Isle Motel, Miami, FL
• Crown Hotel, Miami Beach, FL
• Deauville Hotel, Miami, FL
• Eden Roc Hotel, Miami, FL
• Marco Polo Hotel, Miami, FL
• Versailles Hotel, Miami, FL
• Seacoast Towers, Miami Beach, FL
• Waikiki Hotel, Miami, FL
• Chateau Motel Inc., Miami, FL
• Sands Hotel & Casino, LV
• Fontainebleau Hotel, Miami, FL
• Flamingo Hotel & Casino, LV
• Fremont Hotel & Casino, LV
• Thunderbird Hotel, LV
• Executive House Apartments, Inc., Miami, FL
• Hotel Havana-Riviera & Casino, Cuba
• Montemartre Nightclub & Casino, Cuba
• The San Souci, Cuba
• Varadere International Hotel-Casino, Cuba
• Savilla-Biltmore, Cuba
• Monte Carlo Casino, Freeport, Grand Bahamas
• The Sands Hotel & Casino, LV
• The Horseshoe Hotel & Casino, LV
• Algiers Motel, LV
• El Cortez Hotel, LV
• Aztec Motel Inc., Miami, FL
• Miami International Airport Hotel, Miami, FL
• Carlsbad Spa, Broward County, FL
• Colonial Inn, Broward County, FL
• La Boheme Club, Broward County, FL
• Club Green Acres, Broward County, FL
• The Shore Club, Broward County, FL
• South Pacific Polynesian Restaurant, Hallandale, FL
• The Colony Club, London, England
• Mary Carter Paint Company


Yep. And that not even mentioning their operations in London, England, the Island of Haiti, Reno, Navada, etc.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?


It's not a bad guess. The amount of money that group got out of Vegas alone was astronomical


NY, Vegas, Florida, Cuba, The Carribean, Mexico, Europe.



His European interests have always been of great interest to me. Particularly his involvement with Monte Carlo.


I'm also familiar with Carlo Mastrototaro, who was a soldier (and later capo), with the New England Family of Raymond Patriarca, being involved in legal casino operations in London, England.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 10:13 AM

Mobster Ties: Blessing and Curse for Gambling Conglomerate (Part I


Bally Bell, 1938, Bally Manufacturing Co.’s first slot machine

1963-1970s

With assorted help from Mobsters starting in 1963, a small Chicago, Illinois-based pinball game maker, which had begun as Lion Manufacturing Co. in the 1920s, grew into the world’s largest slot machine developer, Bally Manufacturing Corp., by the 1970s.

And those underworld relationships later would damage its image and jeopardize some of its existing operations overseas and expansion plans for Nevada and New Jersey.

“Bally Manufacturing is one of the National Crime Syndicate’s more visible operations,” Pacific News Service reporters wrote in a May 24, 1974 article (The Capital Times).

Mafioso Investors
Lion/Bally Founder Raymond Moloney, Sr. died in 1957, after which his sons, Ray, Jr., and Don took control of the business as president and director of sales, respectively. By 1962, the company was foundering. To help, Sales Manager William T. O’Donnell contacted Abe Green, reported front man for Gerardo “Jerry” Catena, then underboss of the Vito Genovese crime family in New York. Catena’s company, Runyon Sales, was involved in pinball distribution in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut and was Lion/Bally’s largest distributor.


Gerardo “Jerry” Catena

Together, the following group bought Bally for $1.2 million ($10 million today), incorporated it and ousted the Moloneys:

• Jerry Catena (originally held an 8.3% interest, later 12.5%)
• Abe Green
• Barnet Sugarman (another Catena front man and Runyon Sales partner)
• Sam Klein (a Catena associate)
• Irving Kaye (a Catena associate)
• Louis Jacobs (his firm Emprise Corp.* financed the transaction)
• Frank Prince (an associate of Jacob)
• William O’Donnell

O’Donnell took the helm of Bally in 1963 with primarily East Coast mobsters as its investor-owners.

Mob-Linked Employees
• Dino Cellini: He was a top lieutenant of gambling chieftain Meyer Lansky and sold/distributed slot machines for Bally between 1964 and 1973 in London then the Bahamas and Europe, the Middle East and Africa. He sold the machines on behalf of the group of Mobsters, including Lansky, who owned the Colony Club in London, of which Cellini was the manager and actor George Raft was the front man. Prior to that, Cellini had worked in the 1950s for Lansky at his Riviera casino in Havana.

• Michael “Mickey” Wichinsky: He had connections with Catena and other unsavory men during his hugely successful stint as Bally’s slot machine distributor in Southern Nevada beginning in 1964. Wichinsky’s nephew, Robert Petrin, was married to Catena’s daughter, and Petrin held a stake in one of Catena and Green’s enterprises, Automatic Merchants Co., in New Jersey. When Nevada gambling authorities appeared for a random audit of his Bally enterprise in 1971, Wichinsky telephoned Petrin.

Wichinsky admitted having business or social contacts with and/or catering to various alleged Mobsters, such as Cellini, whom he helped land a job representing Bally in Rome. Wichinsky, however, denied ever knowing or being affiliated with Catena.

• Joseph D. Testa, Jr.: This Chicago Mobster and reported close friend of Felix “Milwaukee Phil” Alderisio, Outfit enforcer and hitman, claimed to be selling slot machines for Bally in Australia, but O’Donnell denied that was true when government officials there confronted him about it. Australian gaming authorities spotted Testa in Sydney several times, the first in 1969, sometimes in the company of local mobsters. As such, regulators concluded Testa was there on behalf of one or more U.S. syndicates to strong-arm into and monopolize their country’s slot machines industry.

Mobs’ Funding Vehicle
The Teamsters Union’s Central States, Southeast, Southwest Areas Pension Fund, or Teamsters Pension Fund (TPF): Known as the Mob’s bank, the TPF was a major source of capital for Bally, providing it with a series of loans.

After Bally went public in 1968, the TPF itself and several of its trustees bought shares in the corporation. When the TPF loaned $12 million to Bally in the early 1970s, supposedly to finance building of the corporation’s first major Chicago plant, several fund trustees held Bally stock. They included International Brotherhood of Teamsters President Frank Fitzsimmons, Vice President William Presser and TPF Asset Manager Alvin Baron.

When other individuals pursued financing through the TPF for hotel-casinos, the trustees allegedly pressured them to buy the slot machines for their resorts from Bally. This was because “Bally’s 42,000 slot machines in Nevada casinos bring in over $250 million [$1.3 billion today] a year, helping the National Crime Syndicate make payments on hundreds of millions of dollars in loans the Teamsters Central States Pension Fund provided for casino construction over the last 15 years,” wrote reporters Lowell Bergman and Dee Stevens (The Capital Times, May 24, 1974).

Downsides to Affiliations
Bally’s relationships with organized criminals repeatedly dogged the corporation, first becoming a problem in 1969 when it applied with the Nevada Gaming Commission to assume distribution of its slot machines in Nevada.

Read more about the repercussions in Mobster Ties: Blessing and Curse for Gambling Conglomerate (Part II).

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* Emprise would be indicted in 1972 with Detroit Mobsters Michael Polizzi and Anthony Zerilli on charges of trying to obtain a hidden ownership of the Frontier hotel-casino in Las Vegas.

** Dino Cellini and Meyer Lansky also would be indicted in 1972, in Florida for conspiring to receive almost $200,000 ($1.2 million today) that players lost at the Colony Club in London.

https://gambling-history.com/mobster-ties-blessing-and-curse-for-gambling-conglomerate-part-i/
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Mobster Ties: Blessing and Curse for Gambling Conglomerate (Part I


Bally Bell, 1938, Bally Manufacturing Co.’s first slot machine

1963-1970s

With assorted help from Mobsters starting in 1963, a small Chicago, Illinois-based pinball game maker, which had begun as Lion Manufacturing Co. in the 1920s, grew into the world’s largest slot machine developer, Bally Manufacturing Corp., by the 1970s.

And those underworld relationships later would damage its image and jeopardize some of its existing operations overseas and expansion plans for Nevada and New Jersey.

“Bally Manufacturing is one of the National Crime Syndicate’s more visible operations,” Pacific News Service reporters wrote in a May 24, 1974 article (The Capital Times).

Mafioso Investors
Lion/Bally Founder Raymond Moloney, Sr. died in 1957, after which his sons, Ray, Jr., and Don took control of the business as president and director of sales, respectively. By 1962, the company was foundering. To help, Sales Manager William T. O’Donnell contacted Abe Green, reported front man for Gerardo “Jerry” Catena, then underboss of the Vito Genovese crime family in New York. Catena’s company, Runyon Sales, was involved in pinball distribution in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut and was Lion/Bally’s largest distributor.


Gerardo “Jerry” Catena

Together, the following group bought Bally for $1.2 million ($10 million today), incorporated it and ousted the Moloneys:

• Jerry Catena (originally held an 8.3% interest, later 12.5%)
• Abe Green
• Barnet Sugarman (another Catena front man and Runyon Sales partner)
• Sam Klein (a Catena associate)
• Irving Kaye (a Catena associate)
• Louis Jacobs (his firm Emprise Corp.* financed the transaction)
• Frank Prince (an associate of Jacob)
• William O’Donnell

O’Donnell took the helm of Bally in 1963 with primarily East Coast mobsters as its investor-owners.

Mob-Linked Employees
• Dino Cellini: He was a top lieutenant of gambling chieftain Meyer Lansky and sold/distributed slot machines for Bally between 1964 and 1973 in London then the Bahamas and Europe, the Middle East and Africa. He sold the machines on behalf of the group of Mobsters, including Lansky, who owned the Colony Club in London, of which Cellini was the manager and actor George Raft was the front man. Prior to that, Cellini had worked in the 1950s for Lansky at his Riviera casino in Havana.

• Michael “Mickey” Wichinsky: He had connections with Catena and other unsavory men during his hugely successful stint as Bally’s slot machine distributor in Southern Nevada beginning in 1964. Wichinsky’s nephew, Robert Petrin, was married to Catena’s daughter, and Petrin held a stake in one of Catena and Green’s enterprises, Automatic Merchants Co., in New Jersey. When Nevada gambling authorities appeared for a random audit of his Bally enterprise in 1971, Wichinsky telephoned Petrin.

Wichinsky admitted having business or social contacts with and/or catering to various alleged Mobsters, such as Cellini, whom he helped land a job representing Bally in Rome. Wichinsky, however, denied ever knowing or being affiliated with Catena.

• Joseph D. Testa, Jr.: This Chicago Mobster and reported close friend of Felix “Milwaukee Phil” Alderisio, Outfit enforcer and hitman, claimed to be selling slot machines for Bally in Australia, but O’Donnell denied that was true when government officials there confronted him about it. Australian gaming authorities spotted Testa in Sydney several times, the first in 1969, sometimes in the company of local mobsters. As such, regulators concluded Testa was there on behalf of one or more U.S. syndicates to strong-arm into and monopolize their country’s slot machines industry.

Mobs’ Funding Vehicle
The Teamsters Union’s Central States, Southeast, Southwest Areas Pension Fund, or Teamsters Pension Fund (TPF): Known as the Mob’s bank, the TPF was a major source of capital for Bally, providing it with a series of loans.

After Bally went public in 1968, the TPF itself and several of its trustees bought shares in the corporation. When the TPF loaned $12 million to Bally in the early 1970s, supposedly to finance building of the corporation’s first major Chicago plant, several fund trustees held Bally stock. They included International Brotherhood of Teamsters President Frank Fitzsimmons, Vice President William Presser and TPF Asset Manager Alvin Baron.

When other individuals pursued financing through the TPF for hotel-casinos, the trustees allegedly pressured them to buy the slot machines for their resorts from Bally. This was because “Bally’s 42,000 slot machines in Nevada casinos bring in over $250 million [$1.3 billion today] a year, helping the National Crime Syndicate make payments on hundreds of millions of dollars in loans the Teamsters Central States Pension Fund provided for casino construction over the last 15 years,” wrote reporters Lowell Bergman and Dee Stevens (The Capital Times, May 24, 1974).

Downsides to Affiliations
Bally’s relationships with organized criminals repeatedly dogged the corporation, first becoming a problem in 1969 when it applied with the Nevada Gaming Commission to assume distribution of its slot machines in Nevada.

Read more about the repercussions in Mobster Ties: Blessing and Curse for Gambling Conglomerate (Part II).

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* Emprise would be indicted in 1972 with Detroit Mobsters Michael Polizzi and Anthony Zerilli on charges of trying to obtain a hidden ownership of the Frontier hotel-casino in Las Vegas.

** Dino Cellini and Meyer Lansky also would be indicted in 1972, in Florida for conspiring to receive almost $200,000 ($1.2 million today) that players lost at the Colony Club in London.

https://gambling-history.com/mobster-ties-blessing-and-curse-for-gambling-conglomerate-part-i/

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An excellent article and contribution to this thread Hollander. Thank you pal!

This "confirms" what you started in your earlier post above, about how Lansky and his associates, and by extension, Cosa Nostra, were literally worldwide in their re-investment operations and pursuit of profits for the mob. At one time or another, they operated all across the United States, the Caribbean - Cuba, Bahamas, Haiti, Puerto Rico, etc., as well as Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, etc.

These fellas were true "visionaries." (especially Lansky). Maybe underworld gangster visionaries, but visionaries nonetheless!

And yes, Bally was, as is, a massive corporation that got its financial start and boost from the mob. Everybody knows that name, Bally International!

And back in those days, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, and its president Jimmy Hoffa, was in the Mafia's pocket. The mob used the Teamsters as their personal "bank."

Thats when the mob, really was, THE MOB!"
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Like I said, good post!



Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Indeed great stuff most powerful group in US history?


It's not a bad guess. The amount of money that group got out of Vegas alone was astronomical


"Astronomical" is a very good word to use regarding their LV profits. Continuously steady profits running into the multimillions annually for many, many years!
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 08:49 PM

Thanks NYM here is an NYT article about the indictment of Lansky and Cellini in 1972.
At the time Cellini lived in Rome, Lansky in Israel.

LANSKY INDICTED IN. U.S. TAX PLOT
Alleged Aide Also Charged Special to The New York Times
June 7, 1972

Credit...The New York Times Archives
See the article in its original context from
June 7, 1972, Page 21Buy Reprints

This is a digitized version of an article from The Times’s print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them.
Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions.
WASHINGTON, June 6 (AP) —Meyer Lansky and one of his reputed long?time associates were indicted today by a Federal grand jury on charges of conspiring to avoid paying taxes on money allegedly received from gamblers on junkets to George Raft's Colony Sporting Club in London, England.

Lansky, 69 years old, and his reputed associate, Dino Cellini, were also accused by the grand jury in United States District Court in Miami of conspiring to obstruct the Internal Revenue Service from assessing income taxes. Cellini was also charged with filing two false income tax returns.

The Justice Department announced the indictment action.

Lansky is living in Israel and fighting attempts by the Israeli Government to deport him. He was indicted in Miami last year for refusing to appear before a grand jury in Miami and in Las Vegas in connection with alleged gambling, activities.

Cellini, 57, a native of Steubenville, Ohio, lives in Rome where he represents an American slot machine manufacturer. He was a stockhc'der and employre of Mr. Raft's gambling casino, which operated from 1966 to 1969.

According to the indictment, Cellini set up a concern called Travel and Resorts Enterprises, Inc., in Miami to organize gambling junkets to the Colony Club and other foreign casinos.

Various junketeers were extended credit by the casino, and if the junketeer had not paid his debt before leaving the casino, the gambling debts were turned over to unindicted co?conspirators in the United States, the indictment charged.

Instead of handing the money to the ostensible creditor, the indictment said, the funds derived from the gambling debt were turned over to Lansky and Cellini in cash.

It was estimated that from November, 1967, to mid?May, 1968, the two men received about $198,000 from various persons while collecting the gambling LO.U.s.

Named as unindicted co?conspirators were:

Raymond Patriarca, 64, of Providence, R. I.; Henry Tameleo 70; Carmine Carlo Mastrotoaro, 51, of Worcester, Mass.; Vincent Teresa, 43, North Reading, Mass.; Daniel Mongovano, 44, Boston, and Joseph Lamattina, 42, Boston
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Thanks NYM here is an NYT article about the indicment of Lansky and Cellini in 1972.
At the time Cellini lived in Rome, Lansky in Israel.

LANSKY INDICTED IN. U.S. TAX PLOT
Alleged Aide Also Charged Special to The New York Times
June 7, 1972

Credit...The New York Times Archives
See the article in its original context from
June 7, 1972, Page 21Buy Reprints

This is a digitized version of an article from The Times’s print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them.
Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions.
WASHINGTON, June 6 (AP) —Meyer Lansky and one of his reputed long?time associates were indicted today by a Federal grand jury on charges of conspiring to avoid paying taxes on money allegedly received from gamblers on junkets to George Raft's Colony Sporting Club in London, England.

Lansky, 69 years old, and his reputed associate, Dino Cellini, were also accused by the grand jury in United States District Court in Miami of conspiring to obstruct the Internal Revenue Service from assessing income taxes. Cellini was also charged with filing two false income tax returns.

The Justice Department announced the indictment action.

Lansky is living in Israel and fighting attempts by the Israeli Government to deport him. He was indicted in Miami last year for refusing to appear before a grand jury in Miami and in Las Vegas in connection with alleged gambling, activities.

Cellini, 57, a native of Steubenville, Ohio, lives in Rome where he represents an American slot machine manufacturer. He was a stockhc'der and employre of Mr. Raft's gambling casino, which operated from 1966 to 1969.

According to the indictment, Cellini set up a concern called Travel and Resorts Enterprises, Inc., in Miami to organize gambling junkets to the Colony Club and other foreign casinos.

Various junketeers were extended credit by the casino, and if the junketeer had not paid his debt before leaving the casino, the gambling debts were turned over to unindicted co?conspirators in the United States, the indictment charged.

Instead of handing the money to the ostensible creditor, the indictment said, the funds derived from the gambling debt were turned over to Lansky and Cellini in cash.

It was estimated that from November, 1967, to mid?May, 1968, the two men received about $198,000 from various persons while collecting the gambling LO.U.s.

Named as unindicted co?conspirators were:

Raymond Patriarca, 64, of Providence, R. I.; Henry Tameleo 70; Carmine Carlo Mastrotoaro, 51, of Worcester, Mass.; Vincent Teresa, 43, North Reading, Mass.; Daniel Mongovano, 44, Boston, and Joseph Lamattina, 42, Boston


Another excellent post up! Kudos to you Hollander.

This shows, once and for all, if there was any doubt to begin with, the far-flung nature of Lansky's operations, and by proxy, his intimate relationship with Mafia bosses and their borgatas, all across the U.S.A. In this particular case, the New England Family headed by Patriarca. And as I had mentioned in an earlier post, to Genovese soldier Carlo Mastrototaro, who, although operating out of NE and intimate with the Patriarca Family, was in actuality a Genovese Family soldier within the regime of Worcester, Massachusetts capo Frank Iaconi.

Good contribution pal!
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 09:19 PM

Jan. 24, 1970

Vincent (Jimmy Blue Eyes) Alo of 19 West 55th Street, Manhattan, a 65 year old reputed captain in the Mafia family of the late Vito Genovese, also appeared before the state legislative committee yesterday.

Mr. Alo invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege against self incrimination on all questions that the committee's general counsel, Edward J. McLaughlin, posed to him — including one on what color his eyes were.

Mr. Alo kept wearing green shaded sunglasses inside the hearing room, even after a crowd of photographers had taken their floodlights away.

Mr. Alo is awaiting trial on Federal charges of criminal obstruction of justice in connection with a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation into alleged Mafia influence in Tel ASign, Inc., an advertising concern.

The next committee hearing will be held at 14 Vesey Street next Wednesday.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Jan. 24, 1970

Vincent (Jimmy Blue Eyes) Alo of 19 West 55th Street, Manhattan, a 65 year old reputed captain in the Mafia family of the late Vito Genovese, also appeared before the state legislative committee yesterday.

Mr. Alo invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege against self incrimination on all questions that the committee's general counsel, Edward J. McLaughlin, posed to him — including one on what color his eyes were.

Mr. Alo kept wearing green shaded sunglasses inside the hearing room, even after a crowd of photographers had taken their floodlights away.

Mr. Alo is awaiting trial on Federal charges of criminal obstruction of justice in connection with a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation into alleged Mafia influence in Tel ASign, Inc., an advertising concern.

The next committee hearing will be held at 14 Vesey Street next Wednesday.


"Jimmy Blue Eyes" was the man! A highly, highly respected mafioso of the first order. An "original" in the truest sense of the word. IMO, and in the opinion of many, had he desired it, Jimmy Alo could have risen to become the overall boss of the Genovese Family.

But he was sharper than most. He knew that a move like that was essentially a death-kneel!...He was way too smart for that!

He enjoyed a great life! What the hell more did he even need out of life?

He was a very sharp fella!...and because of that, he remained a "winner" all his life!
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 10:09 PM

What is interesting is that negotiations for the purchase of the Mt Kenya Safari Club were brokered by Edward K Moss, who according to Peter Scott, in the book American Deep State, was a CIA operative doubling as Khashoggi’s public relations manager.

According to declassified CIA records, Moss was the same man who was used by the CIA in November 1962 to try and get rid of Cuban President Fidel Castro. It was known that Moss’s mistress, Julia Cellini, was the sister to Dino Cellini who was running some casinos in Havana on behalf of the Italian Mafia in 1950s and 60s.

Both Julia and her brother were known to procure prostitutes for the high society, and, thus, Moss came in handy as Khashoggi’s “public relations” person, for he wanted to use sex to win over US executives.

https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzan...ries-of-the-mt-kenya-safari-club-3785290
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
What is interesting is that negotiations for the purchase of the Mt Kenya Safari Club were brokered by Edward K Moss, who according to Peter Scott, in the book American Deep State, was a CIA operative doubling as Khashoggi’s public relations manager.

According to declassified CIA records, Moss was the same man who was used by the CIA in November 1962 to try and get rid of Cuban President Fidel Castro. It was known that Moss’s mistress, Julia Cellini, was the sister to Dino Cellini who was running some casinos in Havana on behalf of the Italian Mafia in 1950s and 60s.

Both Julia and her brother were known to procure prostitutes for the high society, and, thus, Moss came in handy as Khashoggi’s “public relations” person, for he wanted to use sex to win over US executives.

https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzan...ries-of-the-mt-kenya-safari-club-3785290


I consider myself pretty well versed in this type of stuff, but I gotta tell ya Hollander, I never heard about any of this before. Very interesting stuff. (especially about Cellini's sister being involved with this Moss.)

Great find!
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 11:20 PM

This was in the Bahama's.

There was, and is, a specific ban on the employment of
American personnel in the big / Freeport casino. Yet at first it was not enforced;
it was forgotten as is made clear by the following list, which appeared in the
April 6, 1967, Wall Street Journal, of just a few of the syndicate workers, American
born or naturalized, who moved in, along with Sadlo, as gambling aids in the
Monte Carlo room of the Lucayan Beach Hotel:

Frank Reiter, alias “Frank Ritter” credit manager
Max Courtney general manager
Charles Brudner, alias “Charlie Brud” floor manager
Dino Cellini craps supervisor
James Baker craps supervisor
David Geiger craps supervisor
Al Jacobs craps supervisor
Roy Bell craps supervisor

Max Courtney and Frank Ritter first made their marks as close associates of
Dutch Shultz, a leading bootlegger in the New York-New Jersey area who
unsuccessfully plotted the murder of Thomas Dewey, prosecutor in Manhattan
during the vicious Prohibition days of open gang warfare. When Dutch Shultz
died—he was machine-gunned by his rivals—Ritter and Courtney decided to
take up a less violent occupation. In the fifties they appeared in Montreal as
operators of a huge bookmaking operation. To relieve the pressure of large bets
made in Las Vegas, Chicago, New York, and other fast-buck areas, the two
men set up their operation in Canada outside of the reach of U.S lawenforcement agencies.
But someone must have snitched to the Royal
Canadian Mounted Police, for they soon galloped into Montreal and arrested
the two bookies. Expelled from Canada, Courtney, who is also known by his real
name, Morris (Moishe) Schmertzler, and Ritter, who often moved around under
the alias “Red Reed,” spent a number of years taking bets in the salubrious
atmosphere of the various gaming centers in the United States, finally showing
up as executives of the Monte Carlo Room in Freeport. Which all goes to prove
that tough a good hood may be down, he’s never out.
Cellini, Baker, Geiger, Jacobs and Bell were eventually investigated by the
Bahamian government and expelled from the Bahamas in March, 1964.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/23/23 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
This was in the Bahama's.

There was, and is, a specific ban on the employment of
American personnel in the big / Freeport casino. Yet at first it was not enforced;
it was forgotten as is made clear by the following list, which appeared in the
April 6, 1967, Wall Street Journal, of just a few of the syndicate workers, American
born or naturalized, who moved in, along with Sadlo, as gambling aids in the
Monte Carlo room of the Lucayan Beach Hotel:

Frank Reiter, alias “Frank Ritter” credit manager
Max Courtney general manager
Charles Brudner, alias “Charlie Brud” floor manager
Dino Cellini craps supervisor
James Baker craps supervisor
David Geiger craps supervisor
Al Jacobs craps supervisor
Roy Bell craps supervisor

Max Courtney and Frank Ritter first made their marks as close associates of
Dutch Shultz, a leading bootlegger in the New York-New Jersey area who
unsuccessfully plotted the murder of Thomas Dewey, prosecutor in Manhattan
during the vicious Prohibition days of open gang warfare. When Dutch Shultz
died—he was machine-gunned by his rivals—Ritter and Courtney decided to
take up a less violent occupation. In the fifties they appeared in Montreal as
operators of a huge bookmaking operation. To relieve the pressure of large bets
made in Las Vegas, Chicago, New York, and other fast-buck areas, the two
men set up their operation in Canada outside of the reach of U.S lawenforcement agencies.
But someone must have snitched to the Royal
Canadian Mounted Police, for they soon galloped into Montreal and arrested
the two bookies. Expelled from Canada, Courtney, who is also known by his real
name, Morris (Moishe) Schmertzler, and Ritter, who often moved around under
the alias “Red Reed,” spent a number of years taking bets in the salubrious
atmosphere of the various gaming centers in the United States, finally showing
up as executives of the Monte Carlo Room in Freeport. Which all goes to prove
that tough a good hood may be down, he’s never out.
Cellini, Baker, Geiger, Jacobs and Bell were eventually investigated by the
Bahamian government and expelled from the Bahamas in March, 1964.


Yes, these fellas were all direct "with" Lansky. And most, if not all of them, are on the Lansky Syndicate Chart I researched and designed. Cellini, Sadlo, Ritter, Courtney, Brudner, etc.,
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
What is interesting is that negotiations for the purchase of the Mt Kenya Safari Club were brokered by Edward K Moss, who according to Peter Scott, in the book American Deep State, was a CIA operative doubling as Khashoggi’s public relations manager.

According to declassified CIA records, Moss was the same man who was used by the CIA in November 1962 to try and get rid of Cuban President Fidel Castro. It was known that Moss’s mistress, Julia Cellini, was the sister to Dino Cellini who was running some casinos in Havana on behalf of the Italian Mafia in 1950s and 60s.

Both Julia and her brother were known to procure prostitutes for the high society, and, thus, Moss came in handy as Khashoggi’s “public relations” person, for he wanted to use sex to win over US executives.

https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzan...ries-of-the-mt-kenya-safari-club-3785290


I consider myself pretty well versed in this type of stuff, but I gotta tell ya Hollander, I never heard about any of this before. Very interesting stuff. (especially about Cellini's sister being involved with this Moss.)

Great find!



Google is my friend ! wink
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
What is interesting is that negotiations for the purchase of the Mt Kenya Safari Club were brokered by Edward K Moss, who according to Peter Scott, in the book American Deep State, was a CIA operative doubling as Khashoggi’s public relations manager.

According to declassified CIA records, Moss was the same man who was used by the CIA in November 1962 to try and get rid of Cuban President Fidel Castro. It was known that Moss’s mistress, Julia Cellini, was the sister to Dino Cellini who was running some casinos in Havana on behalf of the Italian Mafia in 1950s and 60s.

Both Julia and her brother were known to procure prostitutes for the high society, and, thus, Moss came in handy as Khashoggi’s “public relations” person, for he wanted to use sex to win over US executives.

https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzan...ries-of-the-mt-kenya-safari-club-3785290


I consider myself pretty well versed in this type of stuff, but I gotta tell ya Hollander, I never heard about any of this before. Very interesting stuff. (especially about Cellini's sister being involved with this Moss.)

Great find!



Google is my friend ! wink


Thanks pal. I will
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Giacalone
Al Malnik's house in Palm Beach. Who said crime doesn't pay?

[Linked Image]


Yep. Lol. What they meant to say was that, "Crime doesn't pay!...Not as much as it used to anyway." Lol
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Alvin Malnik was a corrupt attorney and mob frontman, who the Mafia also used as one of their "beards" for skimming casino cash, business corporation cash, and in various other money-laundering operations.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE: Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership Chart - 01/24/23 03:00 AM

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE: Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership Chart - 01/24/23 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander


Yeah I've seen this before. Meyer says, "I was singled out for some reason, I guess they needed an image." Lol
Posted By: Nitro

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by jace
What proof is there that he had casino interests in all those countries? Vegas and Cuba, yes. Maybe Monte Carlo, but when Eastern Europe and Amsterdam come up....I mean, get realistic.


Amsterdam
It is more or less commen knowledge that Cellini finance with local boss Maurits de Vries (Zwarte Joop) illegal gambling clubs.
The gambling networks in 70s;80's early 90's where huge and cross-border.

In Hamburg, Germany was a years-long investigation that ended in 1982 in some guilty verdicts. At that time a man named William Ray Davis (connected with Florida,maybe cuba, Carlo Mastrototaro) was a middelsman to the US mob. In 1978 Wilfried Schulz (godfather of Hamburg), Joe Nesline, Dino Cellini, Freddy Ayoub were observed. Already in 1974 contacts between Schulz and the Nesline Network became known for the first time. At that time it was also about business in boxing.

Davis was involved in shooting in illegal gambling clubs in Stockholm. Between his groups and yugos.

100% sure is Cellini /Nesline involvment in a casino in yugoslavia.

little bit about nesline

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...al/47c509a9-66b9-4c89-a3be-75a072b1c120/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 08:43 PM

Good post Nitro!

Gambling and sex boss Zwarte Joop, also Jewish, met Dino in Rome in '72.
In '74 Vincent Alo and some others came to Amsterdam.

Freddy Ayoub I forgot about him one of those under the radar guys.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 08:57 PM

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-photo-of-Freddie-Ayoub/dp/B07KWGB7RN
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander


Yeah I've seen this before. Meyer says, "I was singled out for some reason, I guess they needed an image." Lol


Interesting that he was linked to the presidential run of Nixon.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nitro
Originally Posted by jace
What proof is there that he had casino interests in all those countries? Vegas and Cuba, yes. Maybe Monte Carlo, but when Eastern Europe and Amsterdam come up....I mean, get realistic.


Amsterdam
It is more or less commen knowledge that Cellini finance with local boss Maurits de Vries (Zwarte Joop) illegal gambling clubs.
The gambling networks in 70s;80's early 90's where huge and cross-border.

In Hamburg, Germany was a years-long investigation that ended in 1982 in some guilty verdicts. At that time a man named William Ray Davis (connected with Florida,maybe cuba, Carlo Mastrototaro) was a middelsman to the US mob. In 1978 Wilfried Schulz (godfather of Hamburg), Joe Nesline, Dino Cellini, Freddy Ayoub were observed. Already in 1974 contacts between Schulz and the Nesline Network became known for the first time. At that time it was also about business in boxing.

Davis was involved in shooting in illegal gambling clubs in Stockholm. Between his groups and yugos.

100% sure is Cellini /Nesline involvment in a casino in yugoslavia.

little bit about nesline

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...al/47c509a9-66b9-4c89-a3be-75a072b1c120/


Very good post Nitro. Thank you for this.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/24/23 10:30 PM

@Nitro any idea which boxers/fights?
Posted By: jace

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Nitro
Originally Posted by jace
What proof is there that he had casino interests in all those countries? Vegas and Cuba, yes. Maybe Monte Carlo, but when Eastern Europe and Amsterdam come up....I mean, get realistic.


Amsterdam
It is more or less commen knowledge that Cellini finance with local boss Maurits de Vries (Zwarte Joop) illegal gambling clubs.
The gambling networks in 70s;80's early 90's where huge and cross-border.

In Hamburg, Germany was a years-long investigation that ended in 1982 in some guilty verdicts. At that time a man named William Ray Davis (connected with Florida,maybe cuba, Carlo Mastrototaro) was a middelsman to the US mob. In 1978 Wilfried Schulz (godfather of Hamburg), Joe Nesline, Dino Cellini, Freddy Ayoub were observed. Already in 1974 contacts between Schulz and the Nesline Network became known for the first time. At that time it was also about business in boxing.

Davis was involved in shooting in illegal gambling clubs in Stockholm. Between his groups and yugos.

100% sure is Cellini /Nesline involvment in a casino in yugoslavia.

little bit about nesline

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...al/47c509a9-66b9-4c89-a3be-75a072b1c120/



"They were observed" and "It is more or less common knowledge" are vague meaningless terms. Nothing about Lansky.
Posted By: jace

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 03:44 AM

I swear, some people here love and believe every story or conspiracy theory that comes along. God forbid any questioning of claims to logic is applied. A person can say Lansky was behind the Kennedy assassination and it will be accepted as fact. If another story says it was the CIA that will be accepted as fact.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander


Yeah I've seen this before. Meyer says, "I was singled out for some reason, I guess they needed an image." Lol


Interesting that he was linked to the presidential run of Nixon.


Back in the 1930s-early 1940s era, Lucky Luciano, Frank Costello, Meyer Lansky, Joe Adonis, (and others), supposedly played a role in the selection and support of several candidates in a U.S. Presidential election. Being the "wiseguys" they were, they made sure to back both the Democrat and Republican candidates for office. They were so instrumental in (secretly) raising funds for both parties, that they were invited, and attended, several major political affairs in Washington, D.C. (maybe even the announcement night, or inauguration)...THAT'S power!

OC will never enjoy that type of influence over our country again. Not even close.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 12:34 PM

These days corporations and freemasons enjoy that power. The government is evil, let's not pretend the mob were the only ones guilty here.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
These days corporations and freemasons enjoy that power. The government is evil, let's not pretend the mob were the only ones guilty here.


Powers of the "upper" world, often intermingle with the "under" world, to blur the division between the two. Thats been going on, in one form or another, almost since the beginning of time. All around the world.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
@Nitro any idea which boxers/fights?


Thats an interesting question Hollander. I'm curious about that myself.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/25/23 10:56 PM

Secret mistress of infamous Mafia kingpin Meyer Lansky speaks for first time of her 12-year affair with the 'Mob accountant' and says the Murder Inc. founder was sensitive to the point of tears

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Meyer-Lansky-speaks-12-year-affair.html
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/26/23 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by jace
I swear, some people here love and believe every story or conspiracy theory that comes along. God forbid any questioning of claims to logic is applied. A person can say Lansky was behind the Kennedy assassination and it will be accepted as fact. If another story says it was the CIA that will be accepted as fact.


The journalist Lansky complained about in the Israeli TV interview was Hank Messick, who in 1965 published a series of articles in the Miami Herald in which he called Lansky "the boss of the Eastern Syndicate," "the biggest man in organized crime today," and said he was "worth $300 million." All were wild exaggerations. But, all of us here know that BS like that sticks to OC and the wilder the exaggerations, the more they stick--and the more myths get built around them. That article, which became established "fact" thanks to lazy, sensation-seeking journalists, was the beginning of the end for Lansky thanks to the myths that got built around him,

The Justice Dept. in 1971 launced an 18-city Organized Crime Strike Force. Seventeen of the 18 were cities. The Messick article stimulated them to make Lansky the 18th "city." The department and the FBI dogged him for the rest of his life--in the US and in Israel.

Robert Lacey, in his outstanding biography, "Little Man - Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life," said this about Lansky's attempts to establish himself in the Bahamas: "The Royal Commission of Inquiry into The Bahamas Casinos in 1967 reported that 'we began to wonder whether the name of Meyer Lansky was not some vast journalistic piece of fiction, so ghastly and mythical a figure did he appear.'"

"Such was the magic of the Lansky name that Lansky and the underworld had become virtually synonymous," Lacey wrote. "Like the word 'Mafia' itself, 'Meyer Lansky' had become shorthand for a particular sort of evil. If an operation was cunning and financially complicated, it had to have been devised by Meyer Lansky. To write 'Lansky' was a substitute for analyziing investigative complications, and when reporters found that the facts could not support the concept of the hidden Lansky command structure that had become an article of investigative faith, they resorted to expressions like the 'Lansky Group' or the 'Lansky Syndicate.'"
Posted By: jace

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/26/23 07:09 AM

That's great information there Turnbull. It also explains how many tall tales get their start.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/26/23 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by jace
I swear, some people here love and believe every story or conspiracy theory that comes along. God forbid any questioning of claims to logic is applied. A person can say Lansky was behind the Kennedy assassination and it will be accepted as fact. If another story says it was the CIA that will be accepted as fact.


The journalist Lansky complained about in the Israeli TV interview was Hank Messick, who in 1965 published a series of articles in the Miami Herald in which he called Lansky "the boss of the Eastern Syndicate," "the biggest man in organized crime today," and said he was "worth $300 million." All were wild exaggerations. But, all of us here know that BS like that sticks to OC and the wilder the exaggerations, the more they stick--and the more myths get built around them. That article, which became established "fact" thanks to lazy, sensation-seeking journalists, was the beginning of the end for Lansky thanks to the myths that got built around him,

The Justice Dept. in 1971 launced an 18-city Organized Crime Strike Force. Seventeen of the 18 were cities. The Messick article stimulated them to make Lansky the 18th "city." The department and the FBI dogged him for the rest of his life--in the US and in Israel.

Robert Lacey, in his outstanding biography, "Little Man - Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life," said this about Lansky's attempts to establish himself in the Bahamas: "The Royal Commission of Inquiry into The Bahamas Casinos in 1967 reported that 'we began to wonder whether the name of Meyer Lansky was not some vast journalistic piece of fiction, so ghastly and mythical a figure did he appear.'"

"Such was the magic of the Lansky name that Lansky and the underworld had become virtually synonymous," Lacey wrote. "Like the word 'Mafia' itself, 'Meyer Lansky' had become shorthand for a particular sort of evil. If an operation was cunning and financially complicated, it had to have been devised by Meyer Lansky. To write 'Lansky' was a substitute for analyziing investigative complications, and when reporters found that the facts could not support the concept of the hidden Lansky command structure that had become an article of investigative faith, they resorted to expressions like the 'Lansky Group' or the 'Lansky Syndicate.'"



I remember Hank Messick, he was a longtime reporter on the organized crime beat when also wrote a few books, one of which was about Lansky as you said. I also remember how Lansky was dogged by the U.S. Government. So much so that he went to Israel to seek asylum as a Jew. But the Israeli government turned him down not wanting to anger U.S. authorities, forcing him to return to Miami where he was placed under arrest at the airport.
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But I'm not following your train of thought Turnbull. Are you saying that Lansky and his underworld operations and associations were not as far-flung as they had been reported to be?

Or simply that his "reputation" was blown out of proportion, which I happen to partially agree with in certain areas?

For instance, the false claim that "he" was the biggest boss, he ran everything, or that he actually "sat" in on Commission Meetings? There were many more falsehoods made about him over the years (as with most mobsters reporters write about).

But how do you feel about the breathe and scope of what Lansky reputedly created and accomplished? Is it true or false, in your opinion?


Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/26/23 11:31 PM

I don't know if he had 300 million when he died but him and Moe Dalitz were essential in the gambling industry as we know it today.
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/27/23 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by jace
I swear, some people here love and believe every story or conspiracy theory that comes along. God forbid any questioning of claims to logic is applied. A person can say Lansky was behind the Kennedy assassination and it will be accepted as fact. If another story says it was the CIA that will be accepted as fact.


The journalist Lansky complained about in the Israeli TV interview was Hank Messick, who in 1965 published a series of articles in the Miami Herald in which he called Lansky "the boss of the Eastern Syndicate," "the biggest man in organized crime today," and said he was "worth $300 million." All were wild exaggerations. But, all of us here know that BS like that sticks to OC and the wilder the exaggerations, the more they stick--and the more myths get built around them. That article, which became established "fact" thanks to lazy, sensation-seeking journalists, was the beginning of the end for Lansky thanks to the myths that got built around him,

The Justice Dept. in 1971 launced an 18-city Organized Crime Strike Force. Seventeen of the 18 were cities. The Messick article stimulated them to make Lansky the 18th "city." The department and the FBI dogged him for the rest of his life--in the US and in Israel.

Robert Lacey, in his outstanding biography, "Little Man - Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life," said this about Lansky's attempts to establish himself in the Bahamas: "The Royal Commission of Inquiry into The Bahamas Casinos in 1967 reported that 'we began to wonder whether the name of Meyer Lansky was not some vast journalistic piece of fiction, so ghastly and mythical a figure did he appear.'"

"Such was the magic of the Lansky name that Lansky and the underworld had become virtually synonymous," Lacey wrote. "Like the word 'Mafia' itself, 'Meyer Lansky' had become shorthand for a particular sort of evil. If an operation was cunning and financially complicated, it had to have been devised by Meyer Lansky. To write 'Lansky' was a substitute for analyziing investigative complications, and when reporters found that the facts could not support the concept of the hidden Lansky command structure that had become an article of investigative faith, they resorted to expressions like the 'Lansky Group' or the 'Lansky Syndicate.'"



I remember Hank Messick, he was a longtime reporter on the organized crime beat when also wrote a few books, one of which was about Lansky as you said. I also remember how Lansky was dogged by the U.S. Government. So much so that he went to Israel to seek asylum as a Jew. But the Israeli government turned him down not wanting to anger U.S. authorities, forcing him to return to Miami where he was placed under arrest at the airport.
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But I'm not following your train of thought Turnbull. Are you saying that Lansky and his underworld operations and associations were not as far-flung as they had been reported to be?

Or simply that his "reputation" was blown out of proportion, which I happen to partially agree with in certain areas?

For instance, the false claim that "he" was the biggest boss, he ran everything, or that he actually "sat" in on Commission Meetings? There were many more falsehoods made about him over the years (as with most mobsters reporters write about).

But how do you feel about the breathe and scope of what Lansky reputedly created and accomplished? Is it true or false, in your opinion?




Fair questions.

One of the keys to Meyer Lansky’s success and longevity was that he was never a threat to anyone more powerful than he. He never had an organization of subordinates who carried out his will through intimidation, extortion and violence. He accumulated wealth slowly and modestly, mostly through points in hotels and casinos, skimming profits, rakeoffs from gambling junkets, and influence-peddling. He wasn’t greedy—house odds were good enough for him, and he shared his rackets. He lived modestly and never flaunted his wealth, such as it was. He did nothing that engendered fear, resentment, envy and greed among more powerful men that so often leads to murder. He didn’t have associates under him, as do Mafia bosses, but he had a big network of mobsters, criminals and Mob-connected civilians with whom he was associated in criminal and legitimate enterprises—sometimes long term, sometimes in one-shots. They trusted him, and were the source of his considerable influence, because they made money with him and had no reason to feel threatened by him.

He also sailed under the flags of more powerful men. He organized the squads that assassinated Masseria and Maranzano, but he didn’t order the hits: they were ordered by Lansky’s close friend and business partner Charlie Luciano. He partnered with Luciano in booze and gambling, but not in drugs and prostitution—the latter responsible for Luciano’s long prison sentence and exile from the US. Another Lansky pal and partner, Fulgencio Batista, brought him in to clean up gambling in Havana after he returned to power in 1952. Lansky installed his brother, Jake, as casino manager in the Hotel Nacional, no doubt skimming the proceeds. Lansky acted as gateway for Batista’s favors: If Meyer liked you, you did business in Cuba; if he didn’t, you didn’t. No doubt he was paid off in points and skims. But he never owned a hotel until he and other investors opened the Havana Riviera in March 1958—a rare step into the limelight for Lansky. Castro seized it nine months later—a rare setback for Lansky. He was an investor in Bugsy Siegel’s Flamingo Hotel in Vegas. The Feds indicted him for trying to hide a “hidden interest” in the hotel by collecting a $200k “finders fee” for “brokering” the sale of the Flamingo to Mob-connected hotelier Morris Lansburgh. But the case never went to trial.

He couldn’t sit on the Commission, but he advised Commission members like Luciano and Frank Costello. He partnered with Costello and Joe Adonis regularly in gambling. Vincent (Jimmy Blue Eyes) Alo was another Mafia partner, as well as protector. He had legitimate businesses, too, including jukeboxes, TV rentals and investments in mining and molasses.
Robert Lacey, his biographer, says Lansky avoided prison, lived to age 80 and died peacefully in bed because “he was the accountant, never the boss.” I think that understates the influence he wielded during his long lifetime. But he was never the boss of a syndicate of associates as the myth-makers claimed.

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/27/23 01:23 PM

Turnbull....That was "extremely" well spoken. And I think you nailed it as far as Lansky's overall influence and the power he wielded in the American underworld.

In his younger days, while he was coming up, he did "work," he ordered "work," as you said. But he was never the orchestrator or originator or those plots. He worked in tandem with Luciano and the others, and facilitated the work they ordered.

He worked with nearly all the different families and crews, yet, he himself was a top "associate" of the Luciano/Costello/Genovese Family. The most powerful! So he essentially had card blanche to operate, so long as he cut them in for a piece of the action. Which he always did. Etc., Etc. Etc.

The chart I designed, of Lansky's Syndicate, represents a good majority of those Jewish and Italian mob guys affiliated with him over the years, many of whom looked to Lansky for tutelage and guidance. Many dated to his early days on the streets of NYC. But the "Lansky Syndicate" (for lack of another name), was always a loose confederation of diversified, but like-minded men. Not a formally structured, hierarchical "family" per se.

But how you worded your post was great, and I think it gives good insight into his true underworld standing. Bravo!
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/29/23 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
I don't know if he had 300 million when he died but him and Moe Dalitz were essential in the gambling industry as we know it today.



Absolutely! Lansky, Dalitz, and his Cleveland partners who formerly made up what was referred to as, "The Little Jewish Navy" all played a huge part in Las Vegas' development. Dalitz and his particular faction cleaned up their act so much, that they almost became the "face" of Vegas. Its as though the entire gangster backgrounds and former activities of these guys didn't even matter anymore. They literally became "public" personages.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 01/30/23 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Secret mistress of infamous Mafia kingpin Meyer Lansky speaks for first time of her 12-year affair with the 'Mob accountant' and says the Murder Inc. founder was sensitive to the point of tears

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Meyer-Lansky-speaks-12-year-affair.html


I can believe it. The general public has this image, which is often false, that mob guys are all hardened, ice cold killers. But quite often, thats not the case at all.

Most of them have the capacity to do what they have to do. And certainly, the mob has had their fair share of remorseless stone-cold killers.

But conversely, many do, in fact, have a heart. And can, and do, often show sensitivity to things that strike a cord with them personally.
Posted By: Nitro

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
@Nitro any idea which boxers/fights?


Thats an interesting question Hollander. I'm curious about that myself.


Hi both,

Winfried Schulz/David Dargahi (also from Hamburg) was box promoter and manager. They promote events in Germany mostly in Hamburg but also in Cologne.

some impressions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gzIZJLEUxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvMAk8Q2Ls (great documenatry in german)

Boxers - Only some examples
Karl-Heinz Klein
Lothar Abend
Louis Pergaud

I'm not sure but i think Gregorio_Peralta was connected to them.

One Boxer from,Joe Nesline and "Musky Salow " are 100% sure Bob Foster,


Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 07:26 PM

I didn’t see prostitution on there. We know Luciano was near prostitution so I ask, did you stumble upon some info that he stayed away from that? Possibly because he had a daughter/s?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by ItalianIrishMix
I didn’t see prostitution on there. We know Luciano was near prostitution so I ask, did you stumble upon some info that he stayed away from that? Possibly because he had a daughter/s?


Lansky himself, and by extension, the men subordinate to him and allied with him directly or indirectly were not known to engage in that, (although I don't doubt some of them may have).

Luciano, Davy Petillo, Jimmy Federico, and the others involved in that case, of "extorting" NYC's whorehouses were not "with" Lansky. And so the record is clear, the vast majority of New York's mafiosi didn't run whorehouses themselves. Most just extorted the operators of cat houses.

There were, or course, many instances of out of state guys (PA, OH, etc), mostly early Camorra (Napolitani) and Societa' Onorata members (Calabrese) who were indeed in the business directly. But Sicilian mafiosi tended to "earn" from it through shakedowns.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Nitro
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
@Nitro any idea which boxers/fights?


Thats an interesting question Hollander. I'm curious about that myself.


Hi both,

Winfried Schulz/David Dargahi (also from Hamburg) was box promoter and manager. They promote events in Germany mostly in Hamburg but also in Cologne.

some impressions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gzIZJLEUxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvMAk8Q2Ls (great documenatry in german)

Boxers - Only some examples
Karl-Heinz Klein
Lothar Abend
Louis Pergaud

I'm not sure but i think Gregorio_Peralta was connected to them.

One Boxer from,Joe Nesline and "Musky Salow " are 100% sure Bob Foster,




Nitro thanks! I can understand german so I'll watch the doc.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 09:46 PM

Bob Foster was a relatively big name back then in boxing
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 10:06 PM

A little off topic but some interesting pics of German underworld.

https://deutschland.quora.com/https...&share=72e2fbd6&target_type=post
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
A little off topic but some interesting pics of German underworld.

https://deutschland.quora.com/https...&share=72e2fbd6&target_type=post


THIS, is very interesting to me. Thank you! I'm definitely going to check this out. I know zippo about the German underworld.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Bob Foster was a relatively big name back then in boxing


PHOTOS SHOWN AT NAPOLI'S TRIAL
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Photographs that were said to show James Napoli, a reputed Mafia leader, in a restaurant rendezvous with a prizefight manager and his boxer were the basis of legal arguments yesterday during Napoli trial of on charges of perjury and contempt.

Joseph Coffey, a detective from the Manhattan District Attorney's office, testified to meeting of the three men at the Unicorn Restaurant, at 324 East 57th Street.

At the meeting with Napoli, who also was known in boxing circles as Jimmy Knapp, was the manager, Garry Garfola, and his fighter, Frank DePaula. They were alleged to have met at the establishment after fight on Jan. 22, 1969, at Madison Square Garden for the light heavyweight championship. DePaula was knocked out in the first round by the titleholder, Bob Foster.

A grand jury later looked into the meeting as well as number of others between fighters and Napoli and his representatives.

A grand jury, which was investigating allegedly fixed boxing matches, later looked into the meeting as well as a number of others between fighters and Napoli and his representatives.

Photos Taken Covertly

Mr. Coffey told Acting Supreme Court Justice Frank J. Dlangiardo, who is hearing the case without a jury at the request of the defense, that he was in the restaurant and observed the three men. The detective said that photographs’ had been taken covertly and these were produced in evidenc

The crux of the argument by the defense atorney, Gregory J. Perrin, was that the pictures were distorted and did not present a true picture.

Before recessing the trial after the morning session until Monday at 10 A.M., Justice Blangiardo indicated he would study the photographs and the legal arguments.

The case goes back at least, three years, and a co-defendant in the indictment with Napoli, was DePaula. He was shot to’ death in September, 1970, and the murder has remained unsolved.

Napoli Faces 9 Counts

Napoli is charged with seven counts of perjury and two of criminal contempt because of his conduct before a grand jury that handed up the true bill in December, 1969.

Since then, Napoli, now 60 years old, has been in and out of court more than 60 times on various pretrial motions.

Law enforcement officials said that Napoli had been the leader of the organized crime family of the late Vito Genovese since its head, Thomas Eboli, who was also known as Tommy Ryan, was slain last spring.

He has been free in $15,000 hail and is reputed to have participated in various illegal activities, including loan?sharking, bookmaking, hijacking and control of a huge policy operation.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/02/23 10:49 PM

Good ole Jimmy Nap! lol
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/04/23 04:58 AM

@NYM

Do you know more about their involvement in drug trafficking?

In May 1959, Harry J. Anslinger, then Commissioner of the U.S. Treasury Department's Federal Bureau of Narcotics, praised the attitude with which the revolutionary government had started the fight against drug trafficking. Anslinger had once said that Cuba had become the world center of drug trafficking and that cocaine trafficking in Havana, for example, was then higher than that recorded anywhere else in the world. According to the U.S. official, Anslinger had sent a list to Batista's secret police department with the names of several drug traffickers, including Jack Lansky and Dino Cellini.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/04/23 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
@NYM

Do you know more about their involvement in drug trafficking?

In May 1959, Harry J. Anslinger, then Commissioner of the U.S. Treasury Department's Federal Bureau of Narcotics, praised the attitude with which the revolutionary government had started the fight against drug trafficking. Anslinger had once said that Cuba had become the world center of drug trafficking and that cocaine trafficking in Havana, for example, was then higher than that recorded anywhere else in the world. According to the U.S. official, Anslinger had sent a list to Batista's secret police department with the names of several drug traffickers, including Jack Lansky and Dino Cellini.


During the 1950s, with the explosion of Cuban gambling casinos and the mob's major investments in same, wiseguys and their "associates" of every size, shape, and color were flocking back and forth to Cuba regularly. That little "fact," and the constant interactions of the American hoodlums and Cuban nationals, paved the way for increased drug trafficking between Havana and the U.S.A., (namely South Florida) and Louisiana as landing pointings.

There were literally hundreds upon hundreds of "mules" that could be, and were, used to secret narcotics back into the states.The FBN compiled a laundry list of major traffickers, with (many of the better known ones) placed in their FNB book.

Remember too, those were the days that Charlie Lucky would regularly visit Cuba because he wasn't allowed into the USA. Cuba was the next closest point of call. And considering the mob had "carte blanche" there, it was the perfect place and springboard by which to coordinate drug routes. Thats why eventually the FBN used their power to have Cuba ban Luciano from the island nation.

I could provide a long list of mob names who visited Cuba, some of them used as possible couriers. But unless they were caught redhanded, there is no hard proof that any of them were, in fact, "couriers" per se. A lot of this was conjecture, speculation and educated guesses on the part of the drug agents.

I'm in the middle of several major ButtonGuys projects right now. But when I get a hot minute, I will definitely check for some names.

Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/04/23 11:37 AM

How much cocaine trafficking was going on in the 1950s? I know that by the late '50s, many considered the drug to be a thing of the past. There wasn't any noticeable resurgence until about 1965. However, one can't help but wonder if the drug was in demand the entire time
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/09/23 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
How much cocaine trafficking was going on in the 1950s? I know that by the late '50s, many considered the drug to be a thing of the past. There wasn't any noticeable resurgence until about 1965. However, one can't help but wonder if the drug was in demand the entire time


Good question cocaine was widely used in WWII, but after 1945 I don't know.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/09/23 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Secret mistress of infamous Mafia kingpin Meyer Lansky speaks for first time of her 12-year affair with the 'Mob accountant' and says the Murder Inc. founder was sensitive to the point of tears

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Meyer-Lansky-speaks-12-year-affair.html


I can believe it. The general public has this image, which is often false, that mob guys are all hardened, ice cold killers. But quite often, thats not the case at all.

Most of them have the capacity to do what they have to do. And certainly, the mob has had their fair share of remorseless stone-cold killers.

But conversely, many do, in fact, have a heart. And can, and do, often show sensitivity to things that strike a cord with them personally.


I agree there are plenty of gangsters who lacked empathy and emotion. But Lansky, Lucky Luciano, Cellini, Jimmy Blue Eyes had a complex nature.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/09/23 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Secret mistress of infamous Mafia kingpin Meyer Lansky speaks for first time of her 12-year affair with the 'Mob accountant' and says the Murder Inc. founder was sensitive to the point of tears

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Meyer-Lansky-speaks-12-year-affair.html


I can believe it. The general public has this image, which is often false, that mob guys are all hardened, ice cold killers. But quite often, thats not the case at all.

Most of them have the capacity to do what they have to do. And certainly, the mob has had their fair share of remorseless stone-cold killers.

But conversely, many do, in fact, have a heart. And can, and do, often show sensitivity to things that strike a cord with them personally.


I agree there are plenty of gangsters who lacked empathy and emotion. But Lansky, Lucky Luciano, Cellini, Jimmy Blue Eyes had a complex nature.


For every vicious, heartless, completely remorseless mob guy out there, there was one who had a bit of morals and some conscience. And of course, like everyone else in life, each individual racketeer had his own set of "rules and moral code" he operated by. Varying degrees that ran from the more altruistic, to the deepest depths of depravity.

And I think, depending upon the situation at hand, some of them could act surprisingly altruistic and benevolent. While others didn't have a good bone in their bodies. lol
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/09/23 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
How much cocaine trafficking was going on in the 1950s? I know that by the late '50s, many considered the drug to be a thing of the past. There wasn't any noticeable resurgence until about 1965. However, one can't help but wonder if the drug was in demand the entire time


Good question cocaine was widely used in WWII, but after 1945 I don't know.


I did read the cocaine era was introduced in Cuba by the US mafia thirty years before it became popular in the United States.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/10/23 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
How much cocaine trafficking was going on in the 1950s? I know that by the late '50s, many considered the drug to be a thing of the past. There wasn't any noticeable resurgence until about 1965. However, one can't help but wonder if the drug was in demand the entire time


Good question cocaine was widely used in WWII, but after 1945 I don't know.


I did read the cocaine era was introduced in Cuba by the US mafia thirty years before it became popular in the United States.


Cocaine has been popular since the early 1900s. Even before. How do you think that the famous soda brand "Coca-Cola" got it's name in the first place? Back when they first started the company its popularity soared because they actually included "cocaine" as one of the key ingredients in their drink. Back then it wasn't such a "soft drink." lol

Cocaine was legal. Pharmacies and pharmacists prescribed it regularly to treat a variety of illnesses. For that matter, so was pure morphine and heroin! It generally came in liquid form, but it was dispensed in powdered form as well. It was that way until the U.S. Government, FDA, and Drug Bureau got involved and later outlawed it.

And you are correct that Cuba was a major early source of cocaine for the mob. For that matter, so was Mexico.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/10/23 12:27 PM

Good point NYM, in fact Holland was one of the biggest producers in the world untill 1962.

Dutch Cocaine Factory
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE; Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership - 02/11/23 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Good point NYM, in fact Holland was one of the biggest producers in the world untill 1962.

Dutch Cocaine Factory


Yep. The heroin trade always received most of the press coverage. But the cocaine business was a very lucrative trade as well. In some ways, even more popular than the junk business.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE: Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership Chart - 04/17/23 05:04 PM

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: FREE: Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership Chart - 04/17/23 05:38 PM

Another good expose on Lansky
Posted By: Hollander

Re: FREE: Meyer Lansky's Syndicate & Membership Chart - 04/18/23 01:39 AM

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