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Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI

Posted By: NYMafia

Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/16/22 06:14 PM

The Feds for the Eastern District of New York just indicted 9 men who they say are members and close associates of the Genovese and Bonanno Families earlier today on illegal gambling charges. Included in the indictment was a Nassau County Detective named Hector Rosario who was also arrested and specifically accused of organizing police raids against gambling operations in competition with this group of mob figures.

The "alleged" mobsters were accused of operating a string of gambling dens in Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk Counties from behind the facades of private social clubs, a soccer club, a coffee bar, and a shoe repair shop located in the towns of Lynbrook, Valley Stream, Hempstead, and West Babylon on Long Island, and in Maspeth, Queens.

The defendants were charged with racketeering, conspiracy, illegal gambling, money laundering, attempted extortion, and obstruction of justice. Those named included a "reputed" captain, acting capo, several soldiers, and mob associates.





Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/16/22 06:23 PM

Interesting to see a cop organizing police raids against competitors. Such a rat move though. This is what Whitey did
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/16/22 07:00 PM

If I'm not mistaken this is definitely not the first American LCN bust this year. They are definitely making noise in one way or another.
If this kind of smoke is a sign of being alive and operating, I'd say LCN even in its current state is WAY more viable than the supposedly all powerful "Russian mafia" in the USA. When was the last time you heard about an above average Soviet crime bust? 2017?
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/16/22 07:06 PM

If anyone is interested to know who got arrested. I know Bonanno capo Anthony Pipitone was one and his brother Vito. Carmine Polito from the west side. I believe he's acting capo currently
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/16/22 07:18 PM

“I’m going to put him under the fucking bridge” – Nine mobsters of Genovese and Bonanno families busted https://gangstersinc.org/blog/i-m-going-to-put-him-under-the-fucking-bridge-nine-mobsters-of-ge
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/16/22 08:39 PM

This particular criminal investigation seems to date back to at least 2019, maybe longer. So there are probably a few other such "deep probe" investigations going on at this very moment...time will tell. It always does.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 12:01 AM

What a waste of resources. I could leave my house at noon and come back by 5pm and legally buy some bud, go play table games, bet on my Bucs, play my numbers, hang out with naked women while being served alcohol, and go get a cash advance and it's all legal! The feds need to go tackle real problems. They're still cracking down on gambling? The Fuck?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by blueracing347
What a waste of resources. I could leave my house at noon and come back by 5pm and legally buy some bud, go play table games, bet on my Bucs, play my numbers, hang out with naked women while being served alcohol, and go get a cash advance and it's all legal! The feds need to go tackle real problems. They're still cracking down on gambling? The Fuck?


I agree 1,000,000%...but a lot of the government is lazy and know its easier (and makes bigger headlines) to bust a bunch of middle-aged and elderly Italian guys with funny nicknames who don't attack police or shoot at them as they make arrests, than it is to investigate and go after REAL dangerous criminals like armed robbers, rapists, muggers, wanton murderers, terrorists, and nut jobs.

The cops and feds like it nice and easy. Smooth and silk, and they look like hero's for taking down bookies, gamblers, and shylocks. It's a very fucked up judicial system to say the least....but thats nothing new. It's been that way since the alleged "Mafia" came on the scene.

Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by blueracing347
What a waste of resources. I could leave my house at noon and come back by 5pm and legally buy some bud, go play table games, bet on my Bucs, play my numbers, hang out with naked women while being served alcohol, and go get a cash advance and it's all legal! The feds need to go tackle real problems. They're still cracking down on gambling? The Fuck?


I agree 1,000,000%...but the government are a bunch of lazy jerk-offs who know its easier (and makes bigger headlines) to bust a bunch of middle-aged and elderly Italian guys with funny nicknames who don't attack police or shoot at them as they make arrests, than it is to investigate and go after REAL dangerous criminals like armed robbers, rapists, muggers, wanton murderers, terrorists, and nut jobs.

The cops and feds like it nice and easy. Smooth and silk, and they look like hero's for taking down bookies, gamblers, and shylocks. It's a very fucked up judicial system to say the least....but thats nothing new. It's been that way since the alleged "Mafia" came on the scene.



You are so amazingly full of shit on so many levels it's crazy.

If you think gambling should be OK (like me) then call these RATS just what they are. THEY were the ones ratting on people and setting up busts. They are not victims. They're Snitches. Total scumbag assholes.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 05:22 AM

When I was a kid, the city police made these small pinches...The feds looked for major crimes...

To call the media and have perp walks for gamblers is pathetic...

Did they also go through their wives pantie draw like they did Melania's ??
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 06:49 AM

This year 2022, 26 innocent children have been shot by stray bullets in NYC alone.
Over the july 4th weekend 50 people were shot.

And the list goes on and on.

That’s not even including Long Island or the rest of the state on NY.

So if they would pull the resources they are spending getting gambling clubs off the streets.
Especially because gambling is legal just about every where these days.

Maybe just maybe one of those innocent children that were shot and/or killed might not have been.

Gambling dens are a victimless crime and anyone who walks into to one is a willing participant and not a victim.

THERE ARE NO INNOCENT VICTIMS when it comes gambling dens.

That’s the best the feds can do is say they are helping to protect the innocent people gambling and losing their money.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by blueracing347
What a waste of resources. I could leave my house at noon and come back by 5pm and legally buy some bud, go play table games, bet on my Bucs, play my numbers, hang out with naked women while being served alcohol, and go get a cash advance and it's all legal! The feds need to go tackle real problems. They're still cracking down on gambling? The Fuck?


I agree 1,000,000%...but the government are a bunch of lazy jerk-offs who know its easier (and makes bigger headlines) to bust a bunch of middle-aged and elderly Italian guys with funny nicknames who don't attack police or shoot at them as they make arrests, than it is to investigate and go after REAL dangerous criminals like armed robbers, rapists, muggers, wanton murderers, terrorists, and nut jobs.

The cops and feds like it nice and easy. Smooth and silk, and they look like hero's for taking down bookies, gamblers, and shylocks. It's a very fucked up judicial system to say the least....but thats nothing new. It's been that way since the alleged "Mafia" came on the scene.



You are so amazingly full of shit on so many levels it's crazy.

If you think gambling should be OK (like me) then call these RATS just what they are. THEY were the ones ratting on people and setting up busts. They are not victims. They're Snitches. Total scumbag assholes.


I don't "think" gambling "SHOULD" be legal. It "IS" legal, in nearly every town and city in America nowadays as Bensonhurst pointed out in his post. The fact that there was a corrupt policemen who worked hand-in-glove with these guys warning them about impending police investigations while targeting their competitors for arrest doesn't take away from that fact.

The New York City Police Department, the FBI, Nassau and Suffolk County Police Departments, and so many other law enforcement agencies across America spend WAY TOO MUCH time and energy, investigative resources, and taxpayer dollars essentially going after "gamblers" instead of targeting dangerous violent crimes (again as Bensonhurst so succinctly pointed out).

Why is that you ask? The answer is twofold. #1: Law enforcement does that because it is "sexy" to go after the Italian Mob and it garners them major newspaper headlines and greatly helps to boost their careers for higher promotions within the department (all self-serving bullshit). #2: Now that the government is "in the same business," our good-ole "Uncle Sam" doesn't want the competition that they view Cosa Nostra to be. So why not "knock out" the competition so the government can better control the "playing field" so to speak. And what better way to do that than to arrest and imprison competing gamblers under the guise that so-called "ILLEGAL" gambling is bad, while "LEGAL" gambling is good? Lol

It's a very classic case of "Do as I say, don't do as I do!"

PS: On another note, the utilizing of policemen to do their "dirty deeds" of knocking out the competition by "ratting" out their competitors is nothing new. All across America since the Prohibition Era of the 1920s there have been certain gangsters who would use this tactic.

Is it right? Do I agree with it? Definitely not! But it's nothing new thats for shit sure. History is replete with instances of mob guys bribing cops to knock out rival alcohol stills and gambling joints, while those same hoods enjoyed a certain indemnity from arrest and prosecution. Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, etc., all had "illegal alliances with corrupt cops and law enforcement."

Classically New York's "Irish Mob," certain elements of the so-called "Arsenal Gang" were known for that. Under the auspices of Hugh Mulligan (who I just did an extensive bio on only weeks ago), they had tight-alliances with half of NYC's Police Force back in the 1940s-1960s era. Mulligan ran a huge bribery "pad" that paid off dozens of corrupt policemen monthly for decades to protect his gambling operations while asking them to "raid" the gambling establishments of his competitors. Thats another well known documented fact.

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
This year 2022, 26 innocent children have been shot by stray bullets in NYC alone.
Over the july 4th weekend 50 people were shot.

And the list goes on and on.

That’s not even including Long Island or the rest of the state on NY.

So if they would pull the resources they are spending getting gambling clubs off the streets.
Especially because gambling is legal just about every where these days.

Maybe just maybe one of those innocent children that were shot and/or killed might not have been.

Gambling dens are a victimless crime and anyone who walks into to one is a willing participant and not a victim.

THERE ARE NO INNOCENT VICTIMS when it comes gambling dens.

That’s the best the feds can do is say they are helping to protect the innocent people gambling and losing their money.





I couldn't have said it any better myself. I completely agree with you on this subject.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
When I was a kid, the city police made these small pinches...The feds looked for major crimes...

To call the media and have perp walks for gamblers is pathetic...

Did they also go through their wives pantie draw like they did Melania's ??



You are correct. The "local" police usually handled gambling and usury cases unless there was a major extortion connected to it, in which case the feds would then sometimes jump in.

But with the advent of the draconian Rico Law in 1970 the government soon realized that it was better to prosecute these types of cases in Federal Court because of the heavier penalties potentially meted out in jail time and fines. So the FBI started taking over jurisdiction of these types of investigations. The locals usually acquiesce to the feds nowadays because of that fact.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 03:13 PM

The main reason for the indictment is according to Breon Peace, is they were gambling in the back of restaurants and social clubs. Well, that takes place in most of America, form small towns to big cites. It covers every demographic too. The cop closing other games is serious, but why would they need to do that? Plus we never heard of this arrests. If this cop was leading raids on other clubs, multiple times, how come it never made the news? A protected demographic perhaps.
Posted By: Lenox

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 04:54 PM

They didn’t arrest these guys because they were Italian, they arrested them because they are white.
Had they been black, they would had made every excuse in the book. Violent crimes committed by blacks are tolerable, some gambling by some white guys gets the Rico laws thrown at them.
Call me a racist for stating facts.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 05:11 PM

I think it’s an Italian thing, if you were white Greek or Jewish and you have some gambling spots
The feds aren’t coming for you.

They would not even pick up the investigation.
It’s just not worth their time and effort.

As I stated in the past the Greeks don’t Gamble? Jews don’t Gamble?
Chinese,
Russians? They have spots all over Brighton beach and Coney Island.

When is the last time you seen any of these other nationalities get pinched for something like this?
You do NOT for the most part.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
I think it’s an Italian thing, if you were white Greek or Jewish and you have some gambling spots
The feds aren’t coming for you.

They would not even pick up the investigation.
It’s just not worth their time and effort.

As I stated in the past the Greeks don’t Gamble? Jews don’t Gamble?
Chinese,
Russians? They have spots all over Brighton beach and Coney Island.

When is the last time you seen any of these other nationalities get pinched for something like this?
You do NOT for the most part.





Bingo!
Posted By: RushStreet

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 06:50 PM

I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/17/22 10:35 PM

Ok, so it's Italian discrimination. Got it. Has nothing to do with those particular Italians being members of the Italian mafia.

Couple of you guys could made a lot of money being screen writers for the Sopranos.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 01:30 AM

Dude shut up, it's pretty obvious that at least in certain cities only the Italians are targeted. I'm as fucking white as Garth Brooks and cornbread, and even I can see that. On another note though, what's up with all these pente ante busts, I'm still waiting for some shit like Michael Franzese’s gasoline scam or Richard Martino's internet porn scam, something really big to brag about.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Lenox
They didn’t arrest these guys because they were Italian, they arrested them because they are white.
Had they been black, they would had made every excuse in the book. Violent crimes committed by blacks are tolerable, some gambling by some white guys gets the Rico laws thrown at them.
Call me a racist for stating facts.


I'll call you a name, you're a fact stater. You spoke the truth, crime is up in Long Island and Queens, places like Elmont have social clubs that are Latin or Caribbean all over, and street crime that drives out businesses. So LE goes after card games in the back of clubs.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Ok, so it's Italian discrimination. Got it. Has nothing to do with those particular Italians being members of the Italian mafia.

Couple of you guys could made a lot of money being screen writers for the Sopranos.




The Sopranos was a pro LE show, and the writers would love this raid. Most of those arrested were associates, and I don't care if a few were members. If this is what they do, it is of no harm to anyone, especially compared to all the murders and human trafficking taking place in areas like the ones raided.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 01:40 AM

Isn't gambling legal in a private social club?
Posted By: Tru_Bizelli

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
This year 2022, 26 innocent children have been shot by stray bullets in NYC alone.
Over the july 4th weekend 50 people were shot.

And the list goes on and on.

That’s not even including Long Island or the rest of the state on NY.

So if they would pull the resources they are spending getting gambling clubs off the streets.
Especially because gambling is legal just about every where these days.

Maybe just maybe one of those innocent children that were shot and/or killed might not have been.

Gambling dens are a victimless crime and anyone who walks into to one is a willing participant and not a victim.

THERE ARE NO INNOCENT VICTIMS when it comes gambling dens.

That’s the best the feds can do is say they are helping to protect the innocent people gambling and losing their money.





You've got a good point. Who was really hurt? Big Brother not getting their taxes?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Tru_Bizelli
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
This year 2022, 26 innocent children have been shot by stray bullets in NYC alone.
Over the july 4th weekend 50 people were shot.

And the list goes on and on.

That’s not even including Long Island or the rest of the state on NY.

So if they would pull the resources they are spending getting gambling clubs off the streets.
Especially because gambling is legal just about every where these days.

Maybe just maybe one of those innocent children that were shot and/or killed might not have been.

Gambling dens are a victimless crime and anyone who walks into to one is a willing participant and not a victim.

THERE ARE NO INNOCENT VICTIMS when it comes gambling dens.

That’s the best the feds can do is say they are helping to protect the innocent people gambling and losing their money.





You've got a good point. Who was really hurt? Big Brother not getting their taxes?


Good point
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Ok, so it's Italian discrimination. Got it. Has nothing to do with those particular Italians being members of the Italian mafia.

Couple of you guys could made a lot of money being screen writers for the Sopranos.




The Sopranos was a pro LE show, and the writers would love this raid. Most of those arrested were associates, and I don't care if a few were members. If this is what they do, it is of no harm to anyone, especially compared to all the murders and human trafficking taking place in areas like the ones raided.


I'm not talking about the raid I'm talking the groupies on here crying for mafia RATS as if they're victims of some giant conspiracy not against the Mafia, but against Italians.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.



Or he could have wound up in that perp walk yesterday, and gotten listed as an associate.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 05:31 PM

I'm not Italian, but is I was I'd be angry over a few things. This link is an example, look at the site's headline ( A derogatory term for Italians) and check out a few of the comments:
( By the way, the site below is a site for fisherman)

https://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/853209-they-busted-some-greaseball-joggers/
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 06:20 PM

Depending upon their personal involvement in this particular case, their prior criminal history, and how badly the feds actually want them based upon their status or perceived "positions" in OC, each of these defendants should get anywhere from simple probation and a fine, to maybe three-six months, a year-to-eighteen months, or possibly three, four, or tops - five years in the can. But that would be on the higher side of things. Because at the end of the day, despite any government posturing to the contrary, there was no actual violence in this case. Only alleged threats. Essentially it's a glorified gambling case.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 06:33 PM

I play poker in the back of a Cigar shop here in Scottsdale, it happens everywhere all over the US and I can sport bet from my phone in Arizona or buy weed at the nearly 1,000's of "dispensers around the state"
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by azguy
I play poker in the back of a Cigar shop here in Scottsdale, it happens everywhere all over the US and I can sport bet from my phone in Arizona or buy weed at the nearly 1,000's of "dispensers around the state"


I hear ya. And I agree 100%...these types of arrests are getting sillier and sillier already. If these fellas are committing serious crimes, then do what you gotta do. But gambling related offenses? Really?
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
If these fellas are committing serious crimes, then do what you gotta do.


Wait a minute! Do you want them to be arrested if they're committing "serious" crimes?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/18/22 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by NYMafia
If these fellas are committing serious crimes, then do what you gotta do.


Wait a minute! Do you want them to be arrested if they're committing "serious" crimes?


Lol. Ya kidding here right? I don't "want" anything Ralphie. So stop the BS already ok!

But if law enforcement is gonna start investigations and arrest anyone (which you damn well know they always do) then it should NOT be for "non-violent" "victimless" type crimes (which technically shouldn't even be a crime anymore since gambling is legal in almost every state of the union!). It's ludicrous and hypocritical IMO for people to get charged with something that everybody does nowadays and the government is condoning and has legalized the activity.

Wouldn't you agree Ralphie? Or do you have a problem with that also?



Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 02:33 AM

Nobody really knows what they have on this case. Let's not pretend actual journalism still exists. Maybe a lot more than was written, maybe nothing.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 04:22 AM

In Gangland Capeci turned it into another Cookie D'Urso praise-fest. He let him use it as a forum to attack Polito (Again) while saying how great he, the rat, was. There was more about how cool of a guy D'Urso was than on the gambling raid. Capeci seems to love Michael D'Urso so much, why I have no idea.

A while back there was a Gangland story of D'Urso beating up Larry Mazza, and "Standing over him like a bull, daring him to take a free shot" I pictured D'Urso as a bull-like fearsome type. That image is gone, because Capeci made the error of including a photo of him in todays column, D'Usro looks like Pee Wee Herman's weaker brother. I would put it up, but I think there is a copyright thing with him and this sight.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Nobody really knows what they have on this case. Let's not pretend actual journalism still exists. Maybe a lot more than was written, maybe nothing.




I am wondering too. They started this was over 3 years ago. That surprised me. They first interviewed the cop on it in January of 2020. The comment of "Ill stick him under a bridge" was recored or reported in 2019. So they spent at least 3 years to arrest 8 men for having poker games in clubs. For it to take so long, they either have tons of evidence or they just decided to indict everyone and hope for a rat to pop up. The cop in the case faces the most serious charge. he not only denied it, he was smiling as he came out of court,
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.


Gerald McMahon said it best:
“Gambling is legal in every state except in N.Y. and except for Italian Americans”
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.


Gerald McMahon said it best:
“Gambling is legal in every state except in N.Y. and except for Italian Americans”


Of course he's posturing to the public in defense of his clients. (but he's not wrong either).
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.


Gerald McMahon said it best:
“Gambling is legal in every state except in N.Y. and except for Italian Americans”


Is this the lawyer who said he hated ratzz lol
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.


Gerald McMahon said it best:
“Gambling is legal in every state except in N.Y. and except for Italian Americans”


Is this the lawyer who said he hated ratzz lol


That's him. McMahon hates the government too
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/19/22 11:12 PM

Gambling can be terrible addiction, but can you blame the providers look at all those Indian casinos or Vegas.
Posted By: Lenox

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/20/22 01:25 AM

Anyone have the names of these white italian males?
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/20/22 10:11 PM

Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/20/22 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.


WOW! I can't even believe that anyone would make such an outwardly ignorant, uneducated statement. One that has absolutely NO validity to it whatsoever to boot. And post it with a face like shit and have the nerve to do that, knowing full well that he's insulting so many people on this forum and beyond! Thats so fucked up of you!

THAT is truly astonishing to me. But I guess considering some of the other things you've posted on here that's about right for you. We should not be that surprised. But WOW anyway! LOL

alicecooper, you have "once and for all" revealed yourself for who you "truly" are. And that is nothing but an ignoramus and a prejudice racist asshole!

Why don't you tell everybody what your ethnic background is Alice? I for one would like to know. (if you even have the nerve to do so). LOL. I can just imagine. Sounds to me like you're some backwoods "Wonder-Bread" inbred hick from the sticks with three teeth in his mouth to even puke out a vile jerk-off statement like that. LOL

What a broken down loser you must be!

Posted By: Liggio

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 12:37 AM

Italians are indeed considered white, maybe not the "Caucasian" or "Aryan" variety but they're definitely white.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 01:20 AM

Then why don't they let others into the Mafia?

Why is it Italians only?
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.



The Irish call themselves Irish, people form England say they are British or English, Germans call themselves Germans...I guess you don't consider them White either. I hope you were drunk or joking, if you weren't it's a shame on you.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 01:26 AM

Roman empire was considered white.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.



The Irish call themselves Irish, people form England say they are British or English, Germans call themselves Germans...I guess you don't consider them White either. I hope you were drunk or joking, if you weren't it's a shame on you.



No, they are clean. It's OK to call them white.

Why can't non Italians be in the mafia?
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I was at a social club recently and we gambled. Oh boy such a bad thing to do, the FBI is a joke.


Lucky you weren't at the wrong one, you could've taken a pinch courtesy of the mob and it's cop.


Gerald McMahon said it best:
“Gambling is legal in every state except in N.Y. and except for Italian Americans”


Of course he's posturing to the public in defense of his clients. (but he's not wrong either).


Agreed...

However, he won some nice trials he is one of the best defense attorney's from what I can see.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.



The Irish call themselves Irish, people form England say they are British or English, Germans call themselves Germans...I guess you don't consider them White either. I hope you were drunk or joking, if you weren't it's a shame on you.



No, they are clean. It's OK to call them white.

Why can't non Italians be in the mafia?



Did you just say Italains are not clean?
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.



The Irish call themselves Irish, people form England say they are British or English, Germans call themselves Germans...I guess you don't consider them White either. I hope you were drunk or joking, if you weren't it's a shame on you.



No, they are clean. It's OK to call them white.

Why can't non Italians be in the mafia?



Did you just say Italains are not clean?


We give you the gift of literacy...and you find a way to fuck it up.

If I was drunk at least I could sober up. When you wake up you'll still be Italian.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Depending upon their personal involvement in this particular case, their prior criminal history, and how badly the feds actually want them based upon their status or perceived "positions" in OC, each of these defendants should get anywhere from simple probation and a fine, to maybe three-six months, a year-to-eighteen months, or possibly three, four, or tops - five years in the can. But that would be on the higher side of things. Because at the end of the day, despite any government posturing to the contrary, there was no actual violence in this case. Only alleged threats. Essentially it's a glorified gambling case.


Most importantly is there are no INNOCENT VICTIMS...
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by alicecooper
Italians ain't white.

If they were they wouldn't call themselves Italians.

Africa only went so far before it reminded the world it was African. It was called Italy.


WOW! I can't even believe that anyone would make such an outwardly ignorant, uneducated statement. One that has absolutely NO validity to it whatsoever to boot. And post it with a face like shit and have the nerve to do that, knowing full well that he's insulting so many people on this forum and beyond! Thats so fucked up of you!

THAT is truly astonishing to me. But I guess considering some of the other things you've posted on here that's about right for you. We should not be that surprised. But WOW anyway! LOL

alicecooper, you have "once and for all" revealed yourself for who you "truly" are. And that is nothing but an ignoramus and a prejudice racist asshole!

Why don't you tell everybody what your ethnic background is Alice? I for one would like to know. (if you even have the nerve to do so). LOL. I can just imagine. Sounds to me like you're some backwoods "Wonder-Bread" inbred hick from the sticks with three teeth in his mouth to even puke out a vile jerk-off statement like that. LOL

What a broken down loser you must be!



Why are you offended about your heritage? Seems racist...
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 03:53 AM

Me:

Did you just say Italains are not clean?[/quote]

AC:

We give you the gift of literacy...and you find a way to fuck it up.

"If I was drunk at least I could sober up. When you wake up you'll still be Italian. [/quote]"

My response:
A-hole, you are just using an old W.C. Fields line, so don't think you are fooling me into thinking you came up with a great line. Second, I am not Italian, but still find what you said dumb and way out of line. You never acted like this before, tonight you are all out trolling. Not only are your comments offensive, they are dumb, and you are purposely looking to stir things up. Fine, I'll let any Italian on this site take it from here.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 06:07 AM

Back on thread....

It's interesting to me that the feds took so many years to take down and indict these guys for what essentially amounted to a glorified gambling case, card games and joker-poker slot machines no less.

IMO they were waiting, and hoping, that bigger fish and heavier criminal acts would fall into their net. Which obviously didn't happen.

Still, considering the "lack" of major organized crime prosecutions over the last decade or so, the government must feel somewhat satisfied that they were able to arrest several reputedly key guys from two families.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Back on thread....

It's interesting to me that the feds took so many years to take down and indict these guys for what essentially amounted to a glorified gambling case, card games and joker-poker slot machines no less.

IMO they were waiting, and hoping, that bigger fish and heavier criminal acts would fall into their net. Which obviously didn't happen.

Still, considering the "lack" of major organized crime prosecutions over the last decade or so, the government must feel somewhat satisfied that they were able to arrest several reputedly key guys from two families.


I mentioned it earlier, 3 years. They spoke to the cop in the case in January of 2020, and had started the investigation in 2019 or earlier. They came up with a big nothing. They wasted time and taxpayer money, so now they have to act as if they accomplished something.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Back on thread....

It's interesting to me that the feds took so many years to take down and indict these guys for what essentially amounted to a glorified gambling case, card games and joker-poker slot machines no less.

IMO they were waiting, and hoping, that bigger fish and heavier criminal acts would fall into their net. Which obviously didn't happen.

Still, considering the "lack" of major organized crime prosecutions over the last decade or so, the government must feel somewhat satisfied that they were able to arrest several reputedly key guys from two families.


I mentioned it earlier, 3 years. They spoke to the cop in the case in January of 2020, and had started the investigation in 2019 or earlier. They came up with a big nothing. They wasted time and taxpayer money, so now they have to act as if they accomplished something.


You and I completely agree on these points. For sure!
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 06:52 PM

The cop is being charged with obstruction and lying to the FBI according to tv reporters. I would think lying to the fbi would be the obstruction charge, not a different charge as I'm reading it. Maybe just typical bad reporting or maybe I'm missing something. I can't believe they're not throwing in some kind of conspiracy charge on him.

That's the first time I've heard of a soccer club. What exactly does a place like that do? How do they generate money (besides in this case)? Is it a specialized gym or something? I don't follow the sport.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/21/22 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Depending upon their personal involvement in this particular case, their prior criminal history, and how badly the feds actually want them based upon their status or perceived "positions" in OC, each of these defendants should get anywhere from simple probation and a fine, to maybe three-six months, a year-to-eighteen months, or possibly three, four, or tops - five years in the can. But that would be on the higher side of things. Because at the end of the day, despite any government posturing to the contrary, there was no actual violence in this case. Only alleged threats. Essentially it's a glorified gambling case.


Most importantly is there are no INNOCENT VICTIMS...





True. Nobody forces you to place a bet. And if you win, you get paid. So if you lose, don't be a bum, pay your bookie. If you get in over your head then thats all on you. It's no different than blowing your cash elsewhere at OTB, the track, or AC. It is what it is.

IMO there are no innocent victims like BH said.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/22/22 11:17 PM

The silent victim in the scenario would be the legal gambling operation that incurs expenses in order to operate in a legal, and hopefully ethical manner.

Not that I care, I don't gamble.
Posted By: jace

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/22/22 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
The silent victim in the scenario would be the legal gambling operation that incurs expenses in order to operate in a legal, and hopefully ethical manner.

Not that I care, I don't gamble.



The legal ones are run by the government, Plus these men did incur expenses such as rent, and paying workers. I won't count bribing cops.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/22/22 11:42 PM

Who gives two shits about that?
That would be the City or the State they ROB us anyway...
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/23/22 02:26 AM

Something tells me that the public would rather gamble with mob figures anyway. I mean, they're charming, charismatic, and then there's the allure. I think people like being around guys they feel might be dangerous, not to mention I hear that mob-run gambling networks offer better odds.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/23/22 07:33 AM

The big allure is that you don't pay taxes on your winnings if you hit a winnings streak. A second big allure is that you can bet on "credit" instead of having to pony up upfront cash. Those are the two biggest draws to betting with a corner bookie. Not to mention the fact that there's no public record of your betting and loss history. Many folks like the anonymity of that.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/23/22 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Something tells me that the public would rather gamble with mob figures anyway. I mean, they're charming, charismatic, and then there's the allure. I think people like being around guys they feel might be dangerous, not to mention I hear that mob-run gambling networks offer better odds.


The public? No.

A very small percentage of the public? Yes.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Breaking News - 9 mob members indicted on LI - 08/23/22 03:53 PM

I saw a pic of Anthony Pipitone, dude's wearing a sweatsuit, these guys have absolutely no class anymore. What a sloppy representation for your gambling establishment.
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