Why couldnt Greek OC ever get established in the U

It's obvious the often documented rise and dominance of LCN in the US. And even the Russians
Found a bit of prosperity in NYC. But it seemed the Greek OC was never able to get a foothold
In the US. Was that because by choice Greek OC had no reason or desire to expand
Beyond Europe and North Africa?
Seems like anything you heard about.the Greeks and OC was that the Greeks supplied
Some muscle and etc. Or maybe the Greeks did have some structure over here but did such
A good job of flying under the radar?

In 1200 BC the Greeks invented sex. A thousand years later the Romans invented it with women.

Bro, thats FUNNYSHIT

They didnt have the BALLS, they were weak in the knees.

Profile: Greek crime boss Alexandros Angelopoulos https://gangstersinc.org/profiles/blogs/profile-greek-crime-boss-alexandros-angelopoulos
Profile: Greek crime boss Panagiotis Vlastos https://gangstersinc.org/profiles/blogs/profile-greek-crime-boss-panagiotis-vlastos
“King of the Night” – Profile of Greek crime boss Vassilis Stefanakos https://gangstersinc.org/profiles/b...-of-greek-crime-boss-vassilis-stefanakos

The greek diaspora wasnt big like the italian diaspora plus the greek mafia is strong in europe and America and maybe Australia but never had the structure or the power of the mob. They simply was too small and disorganizated,damn was shaked down even by the rudaj organization.

I think the reason is that in America most of the Greeks who migrated had money. Most Italians were extremely poor. The Greeks settled in other areas with better living conditions, the Italians were in slums. If Al Capone or Luciano's family had settled in another part of New York or America, they don't become gangsters, poor or not. I don't believe that there is a Russian Mafia as here either. The Italian-American Mafia that we follow came out of the early part of the 20th century, it was a phenomenon that died. The Greeks were mainstreamed into society quicker, as were the Irish years earlier.

The Greeks also never had a major organized criminal network in Greece, America, or anywhere else for that matter. Sure there were Greek nationals who were criminals (every ethnicity has a percentage of that). But they were never a real major force as far as numerical structure goes, or with organizational structure. They operated in small gangs or "pockets" of criminals. Nor were they ever major players in the overall underworld. Probably the largest such pocket existed in the Astoria section of Queens where the Greeks operated a small band of hoodlums led by several different guys over the years, the most well known of which was probably Peter (Pete the Greek) Kourakos who was largely looked upon as the unofficial 1950s-1970s "leader." He was actually affiliated with members of the Tommy Brown crew from Harlem.

After his death another Greek by the name of Spiros Velentzas rose to some prominence and was looked upon as their next local leader. But he too was subservient to the Lucchese crew and operated under the direction of capo Pete Chiodo who was appointed by their administration to look after Spiros.

Other than this particular Greek gang you're hard pressed to find any other major Greeks operating the rackets in NYC or its outer boroughs. Out of state and elsewhere? I'd say its largely the same scenario.

Any other individual Greek hoods were usually tied up with various soldiers of the Five Families or individual mafia regimes, not the so-called "Greek Mob" so to speak, which was largely a fallacy.

Greek organized crime in Europe is reasonably noteworthy. It largely follows the structures of criminal groups in for instance Ireland, the UK or the Netherlands though as opposed to the large structures of Italian organized crime. The typical Greek criminal organization in Europe mostly bases itself around a major career gangster (like the organization of Eleftherios P. in Antwerp) or a notorious family (such as the Grigorakos family in Athens) who has/have the backing of dozens of other hoodlums.
So in general Greek organized crime doesn't really compare to the large organized structures of the Italian criminal groups (to which nothing really compares to be honest), but they're definitely involved in major cases and it's definitely organized.

I personally never came up against any GREEK Mafia Family or anything like that.
I never heard of any...

I believe there was and probably still is to this day Greeks, that service the vice industry within their communities however, they dont venture out.
Back then they were paying the Italians to be able to exist.

Probably not anymore..

LCN is just taking on way less risk these days for the most part.

Greeks just tended to get absorbed into the Italian crews if they weren’t with some other ethnicity. Greeks had their little vice operations going on and they would pay rent to the Italians and do their own thing. Individual greek criminals got pretty big as associates of Italian crews or on their own with mixed Greek and other criminals together. But Greeks don’t have their own version of LCN or anything. Oddly enough, all over the world, if you deal with criminal networks, you will almost always find a group of Greeks somewhere in the mix doing their part. They’re all over the underworld, just not as some official mafia.