Gotti Should've Forgiven Favara

I feel like John Gotti could've, and should've, forgiven John Favara for the accidental death of his son Frank. This to me is one of the low points in Gotti's career in the mob, the guy was deeply remorseful and tried to make amends, and had children of his own. I don't think it solved anything, other than showing everyone what can happen if you kill the son of a Mafioso, accident or not.

I think the mother Victoria was the primary motivator for Gotti to kill Favara, I think if it was left up to John, he probably would have given Favara a pass but Vicky wanted blood from day one.

Yes,Victoria pushed John but she was a mother that lost his son,nobody can understand those type of pain.

While I agree the mother definitely had a big say on the poor guy getting murdered I don’t think Gotti was ever going to give him a pass. That whole situation always makes my blood boil. Yes I feel bad that a kid passed away but it was simply a tragic accident. From everything I’ve heard Favara was a good family man despite what the Gotti women claim. To his credit Junior Gotti has also said that the Favara family were all good people and seems disturbed by what happened to him despite losing his brother

I totally agree. That was a senseless killing of an innocent person. I dont care if Victoria pointed a gun to Johns head, no way should that guy of been touched. Favara also had to live with that, he felt horrible.
I thought i read that Favara had some sort of party after the accident and that supposedly set Victoria off. However, was the party 2 weeks after the death or 2 months?
Gotti Jr was disturbed by that and he does seem upset about it,

The whole party thing seems like a myth. Remember that was told by Victoria Gotti so you have to take that with a huge grain of salt. Their objective was to demonize Favara. Plus she also said that her father had nothing to do with his disappearance lol

Well stated; a better more noble and wiser move would have been telling Favara, GTFO of town now, never want to see or hear of you again

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this is just basically playing "What-if" with mafia stories

what if John Gotti was actually a cross-dressing crossing guard, wouldnt that be cool?

Favara was told to do so and didn't. This same subject comes up every month with the same things said.

. He actually was in the process of moving. Unfortunately it’s not like the movies but he still did it pretty quickly but sadly they probably would have hunted him down anyway. My heart goes out to the Favara family. I know Scott Favara I believe became a cop and gave an interview about 19 years ago around Fathers Day talking about how good of a man his father was and not being able to visit a gravesite. Really sad

I think anybody who has some sense can agree that John Favara should've been given a pass. It was an accident. Anybody who actually buys into the story that Favara somehow was bullying and laughing at the Gotti family after the accident has a worrying and acute case of Gotti-favorited tunnel vision.

No, anyone who dismisses it like you has tunnel vision.

So in one thread your now defending rats and then in this thread you say an innocent man should have been murdered...your almost as crazy as the rats Babick and NYMAFIA!

Far as I know we never had issues in the past, Jace, but every time someone spouts the faintest critique on John Gotti you jump in like someone just killed your family and burned your house down in front of you lmfao

John Gotti at the time was a high ranking member of the Gambino family for Christ's sake. One of the biggest criminal enterprises in the USA.

If you "actually" believe a civilian is going to antagonize a mobster over the death of his son I really don't know what to tell you.

So let's not start having issues. I only get involved in this topic on Gotti frequently, as it does come up every few weeks, with JCRusher always jumping in for whatever reason. I believe Victoria Gotti, and the report that Favara went to a wisely he worked for, which was discussed last time this topic came up.

. Well Said! I think the vast majority on here feel the same way

I also always pondered that statement.

It dawned on me after reading Victoria hit Favara with a baseball bat that she wasn't the forgiving kind. Given that and to whom she was married, it's a no brainer that Favara was marked for death and he had three alternatives, Move immediately and sell the house later, stay in the neighborhood, buy a gun, be ready to die and sell your life with as many enemies you can take or do nothing and go out like a sheep, which he did and suffered horribly and was either dismembered or dissolved in acid.

I think the live-dismemberment-by-chainsaw is an urban myth.

No, you feel that way to a sick degree. you also hate the Gotti women, who you post about more than you do about John Gotti, to a wierd degree. Any Gotti thread, you jump right in multiple times.

. Very Good Point. Those were lies the women spewed to justify the poor guy’s brutal murder

As I had just said about you and the Gotti Women, and Gotti. "Spewed"

. Yup I’m pretty much in agreement with you. Also showed that innocent civilians are not “off limits” to being killed by the mob as we have seen many times throughout the years.

Caught lying again, they are off limits, it was unsanctioned and Gotti's guys did it without Gotti telling Castellano or anyone else. You knew that, but want to push your "The mob routinely kills civilians" agenda. Not that it matters, you'll keep doing it.

Gotti knew it was an accident. If he thought it was malicious Favara would have been whacked in March of 1980. It was a combination of his wife pestering him mainly combined with Favara''s actions that finally led to his murder over 3 months later

I agree that Gotti should have forgiven him, but Favara also had a bad attitude and rubbed it in their face with his parties right after he killed their son.

. Very True Statement lol

Gotti didn't have a choice. He probably didn't wanna do it, but everyone else wanted it done. In the world he operated in, your reputation as a serious guy means everything.

My stalker on here, JCrusher. I post, have a harmless and friendly disagreeing view with someone, he jumps in every time taking the opposing view and bumping it up. . A-hole. No problem with killing Joke, big one with you A-hole.

This. In a world where even a hint of disrespect can end in brutal murder there was no way it would end differently. You have to be more feared than the next guy or the will take your spot. There was no way he could let that slide.

I totally agree, unfortunately for Favara.

. I do agree with that. Gotti did have a big ego too so there was no way he would let that go. In the end Favara was just very unlucky

I believe Joe Coffey is the one that started that rumor. That John himself did it. But it's been verified that he was in Florida to have an alibi. Plus, I don't think anyone has even claimed that Gotti ever actually killed anyone personally, let alone chopping a guy chained to a radiator to death with a chainsaw. Ha. No doubt he gave the OK to have it done and knew when it was happening so he took a trip to FL while his goons carried it out.

Has Sammy ever talked about this on his podcast/YT channel? I know he talked about how John gave Willie Boy Johnson his word on this son's grave that he wouldn't be killed, but later on changed his mind and had him machine gunned to death.

. All Fair Points. Yes you’re correct Gotti did go to Florida to establish an alibi. The kidnapping/murder was done by his crew as well as RI mobster Richard Red Bird Gomes. As for Sammy he has kind of mentioned it because he says his son was also accidentally hit by a car so it sort of echoed back to this incident. However back on 1980 Gotti and Gravano didn’t have many dealings others than seeing each other once in a while at a wedding or at the Ravenite maybe. I think Willie Boy was involved with this too but yeah Gotti swearing on his dons grave meant nothing but Willie Bot was also pretty dumb to actually believe that