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BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years!

Posted By: NYMafia

BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 11:57 AM

I have a 2 juice tidbits for the forum that I've dug out. When I get a chance I'll upload them for all to see ok?

Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 03:52 PM

You went from saying that to call a guy a rat is the worst thing to do, to now saying guys who are long dead were rats. You were turned into a punk by your former enemies here. Now Now they pet you on ht ahead, tell you you're a great writer, then tell you to go wash their underwear in the sink. You're a Maytag now.
Posted By: Strax

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 03:58 PM

It was already posted on another forum , you probably got it from there , so just post it.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 03:59 PM

Maytag is a bitch for those wondering
And ratting is just another street move,ratting is part of the life and anyone that doesn’t know that or believe that doesn’t understand the streets....
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Strax
It was already posted on another forum , you probably got it from there , so just post it.



I don't know what was on any other forum, but I have an article from decades back that was written by a very respected reporter (who got the info from the FBI) that specifically speaks to the fact that Lombardozzi was indeed a rat. When I sieve through my notes and pull it up I'll be more than happy to post it
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Maytag is a bitch for those wondering
And ratting is just another street move,ratting is part of the life and anyone that doesn’t know that or believe that doesn’t understand the streets....


I don't have to be a mob or gang insider to know that ratting is NOT a part of things, You are the one who either does not understand, or is trying to stir people into believing that. As for the term "Maytag" Mr Streetguy" it is a prison term for a weaker inmate forced into doing things like washing a cellmate or others underwear and socks for them, which was turned into a myth of homosexual behavior by large numbers of inmates. It is an old term. Maytag was a top washing machine company way back when the term came about in the early 1970's time period, hence an inmate doing laundry under duress was called "Maytag"
I think you understand the streets as much as Anorexic understands the best places to get a good meal.
Posted By: Strax

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia


I don't know what was on any other forum, but I have an article from decades back that was written by a very respected reporter (who got the info from the FBI) that specifically speaks to the fact that Lombardozzi was indeed a rat. When I sieve through my notes and pull it up I'll be more than happy to post it


Exactly that,article from 70's and some other info.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Maytag is a bitch for those wondering
And ratting is just another street move,ratting is part of the life and anyone that doesn’t know that or believe that doesn’t understand the streets....


I don't have to be a mob or gang insider to know that ratting is NOT a part of things, You are the one who either does not understand, or is trying to stir people into believing that. As for the term "Maytag" Mr Streetguy" it is a prison term for a weaker inmate forced into doing things like washing a cellmate or others underwear and socks for them, which was turned into a myth of homosexual behavior by large numbers of inmates. It is an old term. Maytag was a top washing machine company way back when the term came about in the early 1970's time period, hence an inmate doing laundry under duress was called "Maytag"
I think you understand the streets as much as Anorexic understands the best places to get a good meal.


Right again Maytag is a bitch. That’s what a Maytag is in prison. It’s a bitch ..you know it’s what you are, you wash clothes and suck cock cause that’s what bitches do in the real world and that’s what bitches do in prison

And if you don’t think ratting is part of the streets and part of the life then you know Jack shit
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 07:57 PM

For all we know, a rat could've tipped off law enforcement about the Apalachin meeting, with the nosy detective story being a ruse or a cover.
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Maytag is a bitch for those wondering
And ratting is just another street move,ratting is part of the life and anyone that doesn’t know that or believe that doesn’t understand the streets....


I don't have to be a mob or gang insider to know that ratting is NOT a part of things, You are the one who either does not understand, or is trying to stir people into believing that. As for the term "Maytag" Mr Streetguy" it is a prison term for a weaker inmate forced into doing things like washing a cellmate or others underwear and socks for them, which was turned into a myth of homosexual behavior by large numbers of inmates. It is an old term. Maytag was a top washing machine company way back when the term came about in the early 1970's time period, hence an inmate doing laundry under duress was called "Maytag"
I think you understand the streets as much as Anorexic understands the best places to get a good meal.


Right again Maytag is a bitch. That’s what a Maytag is in prison. It’s a bitch ..you know it’s what you are, you wash clothes and suck cock cause that’s what bitches do in the real world and that’s what bitches do in prison

And if you don’t think ratting is part of the streets and part of the life then you know Jack shit


Now you're a "Street guy" The only thing you know about the streets is how to cross them.
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
For all we know, a rat could've tipped off law enforcement about the Apalachin meeting, with the nosy detective story being a ruse or a cover.



Possible but the police officer in the town where the meeting took place had been harassing the owner of the home where ht meeting was held for quite a while after hearing he was a mafia member. It was one of those small insular towns, not hospital to outsiders, plus all those people flying in form all over the country must have raised a flag to the feds that something was up. The amazing thing is how the people at the meeting reacted, running away instead of just sitting there and continuing on as if nothing was happening. They were obviously there for a mob get together, but they would never have been found guilty of any crime for being there, The ones who tried to run off changed the whole dynamic of how the story was covered.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/01/21 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by DillyDolly
For all we know, a rat could've tipped off law enforcement about the Apalachin meeting, with the nosy detective story being a ruse or a cover.



Possible but the police officer in the town where the meeting took place had been harassing the owner of the home where ht meeting was held for quite a while after hearing he was a mafia member. It was one of those small insular towns, not hospital to outsiders, plus all those people flying in form all over the country must have raised a flag to the feds that something was up. The amazing thing is how the people at the meeting reacted, running away instead of just sitting there and continuing on as if nothing was happening. They were obviously there for a mob get together, but they would never have been found guilty of any crime for being there, The ones who tried to run off changed the whole dynamic of how the story was covered.


Your a bi polar whore, who should only be allowed to open its mouth when cock is being placed in it or your asking “whites or colors first daddy”

Thinking ratting isn’t part of the streets. Living in a movie fantasy...listen wake up...it’s the streets..it’s dirty and it’s grimy and it’s a life of betrayal..ratting=betrayal...... so called men of honor who could only be counted on to not rat when the threat of death was in theyre face!
Why do you think they had to have the threat of death as a deterrent to ratting???
Posted By: Raven

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/02/21 12:49 AM

This isn’t new info. There’s already been articles written about it.
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/02/21 12:56 AM

Your a bi polar whore, who should only be allowed to open its mouth when cock is being placed in it or your asking “whites or colors first daddy”


You're a sick one Mr. Fake Street Guy.
Posted By: Jimmybrown

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 11/02/21 04:08 AM

The doc was a gambino heavyweight for numerous years, he still has family operating
Posted By: Hollander

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/08/21 11:29 AM

Who was the other Gambino informer Alfredo Santantonio never heard of him I think.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/08/21 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Who was the other Gambino informer Alfredo Santantonio never heard of him I think.



He had the nickname of "Freddy the Sidge" and he was an early Anastasia/ Gambino soldier who lived and operated in Brooklyn until several guys walked into his shop and knocked him dead. The mob discovered he had been an FBI and FBN informer for years. So the shot him to death.

This was never brought out at the time of his killing (that he was cooperating). But it was revealed later
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/08/21 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
I have a 2 juice tidbits for the forum that I've dug out. When I get a chance I'll upload them for all to see ok?


What you meant to say was your gonna copy/paste some shit from the mafiahistory.us website. Which is old news
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/08/21 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Who was the other Gambino informer Alfredo Santantonio never heard of him I think.



He had the nickname of "Freddy the Sidge" and he was an early Anastasia/ Gambino soldier who lived and operated in Brooklyn until several guys walked into his shop and knocked him dead. The mob discovered he had been an FBI and FBN informer for years. So the shot him to death.

This was never brought out at the time of his killing (that he was cooperating). But it was revealed later

Yawn. Santantonio has been known as an informer for years. Just go to Mary Ferrell site and type in his informant number 3864 in quotation marks and you can find all the information you want about him before he got whacked in his florist shop in 1963
Posted By: southshorekid

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/09/21 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Who was the other Gambino informer Alfredo Santantonio never heard of him I think.



He had the nickname of "Freddy the Sidge" and he was an early Anastasia/ Gambino soldier who lived and operated in Brooklyn until several guys walked into his shop and knocked him dead. The mob discovered he had been an FBI and FBN informer for years. So the shot him to death.

This was never brought out at the time of his killing (that he was cooperating). But it was revealed later

Yawn. Santantonio has been known as an informer for years. Just go to Mary Ferrell site and type in his informant number 3864 in quotation marks and you can find all the information you want about him before he got whacked in his florist shop in 1963


The two old timers from Sammy Gravano’s Johnny Keys story were two of the shooters

And yeah… ratting is part of street life. Period.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/12/21 12:16 AM

https://mafiahistory.us/rattrap/gambinoinf.html


This goes in depth into Lombardozzis alleged ratting....


From 2013. Includes all the juicy tidbits......

By Edmond Valin
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/12/21 03:41 PM

The real question is who else out there do we believe is a standup guy buts really been an informant for decades...obviously it’s the guys that never go to jail,while everyone else around them goes away...IMO that means the Lapianas and the Lancelottis of the world....strictly an opinion....
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/12/21 05:12 PM

Lombardozzi being a rat is not proven, it is just a gimmick.
Posted By: Raven

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/13/21 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by jace
Lombardozzi being a rat is not proven, it is just a gimmick.

Do some research. It is likely he was. It’s not 100% proven but it definitely points that way.
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/13/21 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Raven
Originally Posted by jace
Lombardozzi being a rat is not proven, it is just a gimmick.

Do some research. It is likely he was. It’s not 100% proven but it definitely points that way.


Most fo the hints at it could come from the wire used to record him or a person with him, often the FBI names a wire after the primary subject of the wiretap. The rest comes from internet wannabe detectives trying to see who it could be that gave info. As soon as the rumor starts it takes off.
Posted By: Raven

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/14/21 04:37 AM

I’ve never heard about any wire on him. The documents which you can find on mary Ferrell point towards him.
Posted By: jace

Re: BTW: Carmine Lombardozzi WAS a rat. For years! - 12/14/21 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Raven
I’ve never heard about any wire on him. The documents which you can find on mary Ferrell point towards him.



HI Raven, what I was referring to is the FBI giving the name of a source to any wiretap to their target. So if a wiretap was placed with the primary purpose of getting Lombardozzi, his name would be listed as the source, even though he was not informing. I looked at the Mary Farrrell documents, the rat rumor is all guess work and and over reaching by people online trying to "Discover" who a rat was. Also he was harassed and targeted by the FBI right until his death. she was even thrown into a case and arrested with no solid evidence pointing to him, on that case they were eventually forced to release him. Not because he was informing, but they had nothing from the start. He died shortly after.
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