Father Louis Gigante exposed as a pedophile

https://news.yahoo.com/priest-broth...wSLJiO2fd4B7aQmYThY5G0D3K5QgA1OBDbx7bfux

I'm surprised NYMafia hasn't posted about this yet.

Louis Gigante was the first person to claim the Colombo hit was orchestrated by the FBI. Colombo's assassin Jerome Johnson, was a cameraman for gay porn films produced by Gambino associate Mike Umbars and Ed"The Skull" Murphy.who were with Mickey Zaffarano.
Mafia priest, an oxymoron if I ever heard one, wasn't he the inspiration for Fr. Guido Sarducci?

They were from Naples? If so, they had an experience with Aliester Crowley there, that’s the same Dark Magik that he brought to Hollywood, that’s at least one of the unforgettable experiences in Southern Italians history.

Like Epstein or Weinstein

I know some will rejoice over the charge, and if he is guilty I want him punished---but is he guilty? We just got the news on here now, I heard it last night on the news. The person pressing the charges says it happened in 1975, and "The entire parish and neighborhood knew about it. That last part is hard to believe. I'm not defending him if he did it, but I see people saying The Boy Scouts, The Church, and many other traditional organizations had supervisor molesting them 30, 40, even 50 years ago--as they sue for money. I think many are guilty, but I have always thought a lot of them are getting in on these lawsuits to make money or for political reasons (Tearing down traditional organizations)

I was not even born anywhere near the 1970's, but does anyone here who was around then in New York, especially the Bronx, think an area like the one he was in would let him abuse a little kid or others while knowing about it?

The way I understand it, Father Gigante was one of 177 such priests who were named on documents alleging pedophilia and other degenerate acts toward children, etc. These allegations dated back decades to the 60s, 70s era. Of course because the name Gigante gets headlines he was prominently put on the front-pages of the newspapers. If you notice none of the other 176 priests were named but him.

But regardless of all that, if he is guilty of this, then they should cut his balls off and stick em up his ass! I don't give a damn who he is!

Everyone is deserving of his day in court. And the tremendous time elapsed, and the particulars of the allegations have yet to prove if in fact there is any thread of truth to it.

It could very well be that his accuser, and that of many others (as has been sometimes proven in the past), lie and try to ride the gravytrain to wealth by going after an institution as wealthy as the RC Church. That could be.

It could also be that these allegations have validity to them. So we gotta see what the outcome is.

But as I stated earlier up top. If in fact Gigante is guilty, then I have absolutely no pity on him and he should rot. As should any person who preys on children and other defenseless individuals.

All too often people in high places get indemnified from penalties because of their lofty standing in the community; politicians, cops, FBI agents, teachers, corporate bigwigs, prosecutors, priests, rabbis, other clergy, etc.

I'm a firm believer that anyone who preys on kids should be totally condemned across the board.

This was in the Daily Mail from the lawsuit:


"It also states the risk of sexual abuse towards the victim was 'open and obvious and known by many students, children, clergy and administration' and continues to accuse the defendants of failing to take any action to stop the abuse."

Jesus Christ, you don’t give a flying shit about the victims, the first thing you do is a knee jerk reaction to defend pedophiles...and now your posting shit that seems to say because it was out and the open and obvious it justifies it.....there’s no slander here. You just post nothing but continued support for pedophiles and human traffickers....

This is a disgusting witch hunt and anyone who doesn't see it is blind!! Father Louis would give you the shirt off his back. He'd take all his clothes off for you. I wish people would stop paying attention to the fake news media and started paying attention to what people have actually done. Any man can write anything, but you can't deny facts.

Why are we trying to make this a Mafia thing? Even if a Mafioso rapes women or touches kids in his free time, those are not Mafia crimes. That's just a sick fuck who does sick things on his own time. I had a sergeant in my unit of the Texas Army National Guard who's serving 40 years for watching child porn. He was the last person anyone would ever suspect, he had life by the balls! A badass aviation mechanic job, nice house, nice vehicles, and a beautiful fiance. This is why I don't believe in stereotypes or profiling people. Does this make everyone in the Army or my unit pedophiles? Of course not! And don't even get me started on the pedophilia the government is involved in, Epstein Island is just the tip of one iceberg.

Did I accidentally wander into the priests fuck kids forum? Why is this even a thread? Did father whoever get his button last year?
I’ll piss in the holy water for shits and giggles, such is my contempt for religion, but even with that I can see it as a thinly veiled snipe at other posters
This place is a great place to read when people share information. When it’s a troll fest it’s a boring as it is predictable. Grow up both sides

Exactly. I don't think anyone here on the forum condones abusing children or women. But regardless of the allegations against anybody, regardless of their prominence or position in life, the truth is the truth. And if it later comes out that there is validity to the charges (about him or anyone else), then prosecute them.

But to convict a person in the media simply because there is an allegation made is extremely unfair and unjust.

And truth be told, Rev. Louis Gigante has done more for the South Bronx to resurrect it from the rumbles of a ghetto than any other single person I can think of. Politicians included!
So let's not be so fast to condemn him. He's got a record of benevolence and 'good doing' for over 5 decades thats second to none! THAT alone should stand for something.

Jace, I think he's probably innocent, but it has to be investigated. That being said, there were priests, in the Bronx and elsewhere, who abused kids, and no one could believe or wanted to believe what was going on. I was born in the late 60s, and I remember when sexual abuse by priests first was in the news in the 80s. None of us could believe it, at first.

Thanks for the answer Fleming. Were you in or near his district?

I did nothing like that at all. "Coninued support for pedophiles and human traffickers.." Where do you get the nerve to make this stuff about me openly? Everyone can see what I posted.

I agree with those saying this is not a Mafia topic, it should be in another section.

No, I was across the river in New Jersey. But I was alive in those times, and I remember when the stories in the national news about the priest in New Orleans or somewhere was on trial for harming kids, it seemed so preposterous that a priest would do that, we thought it had to be made up. That was the mindset back then, none of us Catholics could believe a priest could/would do that.

The other obvious but strange coincidence is that Anthony Comello accused Frank Cali of being the leader of the World Pedo Ring, maybe he meant the Catholic Church?

Number 3 is all about Sicily and the Church, imagine they added that shit into the script more overtly than they did, with the dude making the donkey noise prior to whacking Mary Corleone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-0MyjmphsA

Some real grease ball shit lol!

Again, I don't know if the accusations are true or not. I am sure it was no secret who Louis Gigante's brother was. Probably not a coincidence the accuser waited until long after Chin Gigante passed away.

There's nothing worse then a child molester...

That said, how can anybody act when it hasn't been reported for almost half a century ??

And nowhere did I read that he went to the police to fill out a report..He's only looking for money, not justice...That's always a big red flag

Hope its not true

IF it happened the victim was probably to scared to report it. He was an elementary school kid, how hard could it be for an authority figure like a priest to intimidate him into silence? Gigante was a powerful man to say the least. He had the authority of the priesthood, was an elected official in the city government, and had blood relatives in the mob. That's some real power. That's kind of what I was getting at when I said the victim didn't come forward when Chin was alive. I meant he must have been afraid, I apologize if I seemed like I was blaming him. (Of course I know, innocent until proven guilty)

No, that's totally understandable pal...

Not only to fear mob retaliation, but in the 70's, it was a different world..The parents might not have ever believed a priest would do something like that...

Could very well be true..Chin had another gay brother in the family..

I just caution that when someone doesn't make a police report and just asks to be compensated financially, its raises red flags

I understand. I just hope the truth comes out.

Not too bash the dead or protect a predator, but did the Chin Gigante not give the same treatment Vito Spatafore got in the Sopranos with the pool cue to someone, as well ?

That's not funny bro !!

. Absolutely. I’ve always believed in due process even if I don’t particularly like the accused. You’re right it does raise red flags when there isn’t a police report filed or they want some type of money settlement. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happened but we have seen that a lot the last few years

Not a joke, it was a serious question. The Chin from how I took it was similar to Phil Leotardo in the scenario, so if he was pissed about a guy being gay or whatever. I’d assume he would be crazy for blood if it were some pedo.

But if it’s his brother and it’s true, who really knows how one would react in the situation.

Sorry if it came off as a joke, I’ve either read that or observed it in a documentary, was looking for confirmation, not to slander.

Would criminal charges be possible this long after the incident? I don't know how the statute of limitations works in New York state.

Way past any penal statue of limitations

I think they threw out the statute of limitations on any sex charge about a year ago. It opened up Bill Cosby for prosecution in California. There are close to 200 priests being accused, yet no one ever filed criminal complaint.

I think murder and molesting kids have no limitations

When Cosby was released, those dark glasses and cane were left on courthouse steps

Murder never had a statute o limitations in the United States as far as I know, probably since laws were first made. Charges of anything else did till they changed the sex laws a few years ago. Also Rico Laws let prosectors go back for any type of crime, even misdemeanors. They can even take an old misdemeanor guilty plea and add it to a RICO case as a felony.

Charges have to be within 5 years of each other to be added as a rico predicate. Misdemeanor cannot be added. All of the Rico predicates are felonies

These types of charges don't fall within the scope of a federal Rico.

The vast majority of crimes are typically 5 year statues. Tax evasion allows for a 7 year window statue. For Murder there is NO statue. And rico allows prosecutors to go back decades (provided that the last crime falls within 10 years from the previous crime). Conceivably allowing prosecution dating back decades. 20, 30, 40 years plus on a Rico so long as crime offenses 'touch' each other within 10 years.

There are a few other exceptions. But it's rare.

[quote=NYMafia]These types of charges don't fall within the scope of a federal Rico.

The vast majority of crimes are typically 5 year statues. Tax evasion allows for a 7 year window statue. For Murder there is NO statue. And rico allows prosecutors to go back decades (provided that the last crime falls within 10 years from the previous crime). Conceivably allowing prosecution dating back decades. 20, 30, 40 years plus on a Rico so long as crime offenses 'touch' each other within 10 years.

There are a few other exceptions. But it's rare.

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Murder in aid of Racketeering still has to be within the time frame

Yes, of course, but I thought we were discussing Louis Gigante? What murder? It's a sex allegation no?

Sad to say but back then it was an open secret.
The families of the boys it were done to would NOT dare say a word the embarrassment would shame the whole family forever.

It's not right but the way it was.

It happened to a cousin of mine everyone knew but nobody did anything.

You think someone would come out in that neighborhood agaisnt a Gigante, they would be scared to death.

It's just the way it was.

Who knows if this bastard priest asked his brothers to scare his victims.

This thread should be deleted. No one has been indicted, let alone convicted. A good, decent man is being smeared. A senior citizen, I might add

Agreed. There are so many guys taking cheap shots at a priest who has proven himself time and again to be one of the BEST priests that New York had to offer. Not only as a priest per se, but as an all around good guy who helped legions of New Yorkers in his time.

As I stated earlier, if he's guilty it'll come out. But until that day, we should give him the same respect and presumption of innocence that any of us would want if we were in his shoes. (and that our Constitution of the U.S. calls for I might add)!

Wait--your cousin was being molested and no one did or said anything???? I assume you are talking 20-40 years ago, but that is not the 17th century. Didn't they keep him away if they knew he was going off to be molested every day?

It's one alleged victim, and i think Vince Gigante would not help his brother there. The FBI was investigating the brother who is now charged, so were local police and district attorneys. They would have known of it.

Well

Father Gigante is probably innocent. But that being said, it should be investigated, because there have been several priests who have admitted to these types of offenses.

In the 1970's he is 20 years older than me so when it happend I wasn't even born yet.

I was told the story from other family members, when I was older we spoke briefly about.


To answer your question yes the family knew and felt there was nothing they could do.

1970's and/or 1980's you have any idea what would happen to you and your family if you accused a beloved priest of something like that?

You never heard of these things back then,
Why not because they didnt happen? NO because nobody would believe you..

Not much different than these woman that were abused by Cuomo however, they were too afraid to speak out. Or Bill Cosby you get my point

I had a Knight of Columbus tell me once that the Pedophile Scandal in the Church is nothing more than a Communist plot against the church with an organization named Nambla (North American Boy Love Association).

Communists don’t believe in God/Goddess or the soul, and Pedophiles are definitely soulless demons, so who knows.

There has been too many cases in the church, but also in other religious organizations, get unfortunately get mostly ignored. They also claiming abuse in the boy scouts, but who knows how many claims are real, and how many are people jumping in for lawsuit money. I think a lot of people are after Gigante due to his being Vincnet's bother and standing by his brother. The one suing, who knows? I think he is innocent too, but this should be a criminal case and investigated fairly. Instead it is part of a massive civil suit. Plus he is now so old and out of touch with the media it i tough for him to fight back.

In Canada 🇨🇦 they even have had a Canadian hockey 🏒 hero named Theo Fluery who played for the Calgary hockey team, admit he was molested by his hockey coach and Hockey Canada.

https://www.macleans.ca/society/the...absolute-nightmare-every-day-of-my-life/

They even had a pedo scandal in Maple Leafs Garden.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...ardens-pedo-gordon-stuckless-out-of-jail

Also some weirdo white boy stuff at a ‘private’ school lol like those people are actually Elite, regardless, where they had young men who play hockey sticking golf balls or a gerbil 🐹 up some kids butt against his will, rape!
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...nt-guilty-in-broomstick-sex-assault.html

No offense but this is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this site.

TBH, Gigante probably did it. I wouldn't be inclined to believe any other priest was innocent, and it's no different with him just cause his brother was a mob boss.

Fair enough, I took it in stride when I heard it, it was the day after 911, so people were emotionally charged. The Knights name was Richard Deville, he used the example of Musolini being hung by the communist and at the time Allan Ginsberg the poet advocating for Nambla.

https://mytjnow.com/category/sports/


The director of the Xmen, Brian Singer is a member of Nambla and charged with pedophilia.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/


But again to think that guys in the streets on NYC aren’t doing the same thing today is just as interesting of a topic? I’m no Commie or pedo so I don’t need to deflect from the facts that #METOO is real and this is it happening IMO

How does the " archdiocese should of known" ( of the abuse) accusation go?
Like how is an employer meant to ' know'
It's not something you think people around you are capable of.


I'm not convinced just by someone claiming historical abuse. Need some evidence.

Yes, most priests are good people. But your friend is sadly mistaken, people from any walk of life can be a molester.

Yeah …. This is not good …. It’s crossing the line in the manner of what some are saying …. Don’t get me wrong …. Fry the bastards that do this …. But right now he did nothing.

The reason why you are seeing alot of cases from many years is because recently NY changed the laws on their books pertaining to the statue of limitations.

When they did it opened up the flood gates for law suits like this.

I think they also changed it on the criminal side as well.

Former priest and brother of New York Mafia boss “Chin” Gigante passes away https://gangstersinc.org/blog/former-priest-and-brother-of-new-york-mafia-boss-chin-gigante-pas

During his younger years Father Gigante was a very active and influential figure in New York, in politics, his community, and with the Catholic Church itself. He wielded a lot of power.

Father Louis was one of the greatest human beings in the history of New York City. What he did for it's citizens will never be forgotten. And whoever started this thread ought to be ashamed of himself. Father Louis was no child predator

Why put that in this topic? Wrong, wrong, wrong. HIs obit in a thread posted by a nut who hated the deceased and anyone who knew him.

I don't if Louis Gigante is a child molester, but he certainly has a questionable history as founder and president of the South East Bronx Community Organization, a front for the Genovese family.
"A four-month Voice investigation of Gigante and SEBCO has revealed that the priest and his publicly financed developments have been a $50 million opportunity for the Mafia. The homes that Gigante’s parishioners live in — senior citizen projects, one- and two-family houses, large and small apartment buildings — have been built, to a large extent, by companies owned by or affiliated with top-ranking members of the Genovese or­ganized crime family. For years, Gigante has been close to the leadership of the crime syndicate, a relationship that has a distinctly personal side to it: the Geno­vese gang includes Father Gigante’s brothers Mario and Ralph, and is now run by the priest’s eccentric older broth­er, Vincent “The Chin” Gigante."
https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/12/15/the-priest-and-the-mob/

The premise on this thread and in other ones on this forum, that the Mafia was some kind of noble enterprise, is consistently undermined by repeated heinous crimes perpetrated on other criminals, innocent civilians, women and even children.

The only time anyone said they were a "Noble enterprise" was likely sarcasm. Placing crimes onto them that they did not commit is never justified by B.S. If Father Gigsante got homeless people house to live in, who gives a hell what company got the contract?? Do you think the homeless wanted to sit around back then while polititians and FBI consultants stood around talking about who could get the contract?


And this load of crap from you:

The premise on this thread and in other ones on this forum, that the Mafia was some kind of noble enterprise, is consistently undermined by repeated heinous crimes perpetrated on other criminals, innocent civilians, women and even children.[/quote]




The premise of this thread was to smear Gigante and convict him of a horrible crime off an accusation. Start paying attention.

Yeah, Father G. did a lot of good..He did more for the South Bronx then any rat politician I'll tell ya that...

Its a shame that basically in your public obituary, the last paragraph mentions unfounded sexual allegations...The media is disgusting !!

Whenever I share a link to an article I try to avoid posting a "double" thread. So I do a search for old threads dealing with my subject and add the link there. I thought that would be appreciated by both admin and readers. My bad.

Here's the deal on the "Good Father", MooneyCam will tell you all about it.

Look at the title, plus the idiot who does Mooney Cam. He is bitter jerk who just drives around angry saying anyone accused or a crime is guilty. A weirdo. I could point out numbers things from that A-holes video: The title, calling him a "Scumbag" The name
of Gigante on the buildings--besides the facts that people in that community wanted his name there, so what? Next (Again) a few of the companies that built the homes had some mob ties. So? They built homes for th homeless, and provided employment to many construction workers. This Moony A-hole just drives around every day bitterly condemning Everyone that is his topic. Plus who wants to keep seeing his face and then seeing building after building as he tells us another subject is all evil?

Father Louis Gigante was never tried in any case involving child molesting.

C-Note, you start with facts Sebco, then at the end say he must be a child molester too. Just because his brothers were in the mafia does not make him bad, and to smear him with child molester accusations is disgusting on your part..

So...what is the verdict among the gbb ppls???... i do NOT know much about Father Louis @ all except what I see inn pics...I know Jace is informative BUT as well as CNote ..so what is up??

The charges were not even filed against Gigante. They were filed against the archdiocese for big money. Gigante was already dying when the lawyer filed the suit and it came just as the deadline for the lawsuit was coming up. One boy said he was molested in 1976, a woman said she was molested in the 1960's! He was dying, no charge was bought against him by the district attorney. I am amazed at how people hear an accusation (Robbery, murder, rape, stealing,) and right away start screaming for the punishment of who ever was accused. They don't even need details, it's a lynching attitude, and it is sadly in the majority.

In Louis Gigante's case the charges came when he was too old and sick to even respond.



For anyone saying he has to be guilty, I pose this question: What if you were accused in the news of being a pedophile?

Personally, I don't think you should of posted his ' obituary ' in this thread.

I didn't read the links. But 1 guy accused 200 odd religious ' workers ' ? Or loads of guys? If the Chins brother was abusing, I'm certain that there would of been more revelations by a media hungry for ' dirt'. Doesn't seem like there was as someone would of posted links here.

Sadly his, Louis, names tainted now. Was he questioned by the law? On bail?

No...that comment was by me..sorry 4 the f--kup....Im still clueless...

I should stay out of this conversarrtion ///it's so dark..& I cant finf my glasses right now //Im sorry.

He was never arrested or charged, I don't even think he was questioned. The charges are against the church, it's for one of those lawsuits, of which there are thousands, of people saying they were molested 45 or 50 years ago. They are all sorts of lawsuits now that the laws were changed. A person can go to a lawyer and say a teacher or priest touched them in 1965, and sue. If he had molested children it would have been known, he would have been arrested by the FBI in a second. The charges came last year.

How about a gay priest who had family with Mafia connections? That would be Tony Sirico's brother Robert.

Sirico's mob connections were played up by him to help his career. He even had help from NYPD's Joe Coffey, who claimed he was the one who arrested Sirico for the case that sent him to prison. FR. Guido Sarducci was just an SNL character of a priest from Italy. I don't think Louis Gigante was the first to say the FBI killed Columbo, he may have been the first to get attention for saying it.

Meanwhile there is no evidence against him, I asked how anyone here would respond to being accused of molesting a child, so far no one has answered.

Dont ask me....I already stated that I am clueless 2 this post.......or as Ozzy said yrs. ago..."DONT ASK ME , I DONT KNOW!!!...lol.

It is a tough question, I don't think anyone can even think about it.

I actually wasn't even thinking of just Tony Sirico even though he may have had some mob connections, I'm sure they were embellished. They had another family member who was actually in the mob.

He used to go out and get drunk with Moe Levy they would insult woman drunkenly in front of their husbands and boyfriends and if the gentlemen stood up for their ladies honor Levy and Father Gigante and company would stomp the shit out of them.They even beat the eye out of a police officer after insulting his wife.He was not a good man a drunken perv like half the family.Another brother is gay as posted above the Chin's daughter is gay they are a whole family of queers

You just made that up, it's ridiculous. Morris Levy and him were doing this openly, and beat up a cop? Get real. Sounds like you have a personal grudge against him.

The oldest daughter is in fact gay..it is her book...but so what...Jace is trying 2 make a point..the asshole brother is a front 4 Vincent..or was...

Where and when did they "beat the eye out of police officer?" This is so dumb of a claim, all of it. The daughter being gay is no secret, she said it in her book and numbers interviews.

That story about Father G and Levy beating the cop is true, although I'm sure it was just Levy who was assaulting him...

Mystery solved: It was Nathan McCalla (aka Big Nat) a Black record producer who was arrested with Levy for beating up a cop. Gigante HAD NO INVOLVEMENT AT ALL. The trail of Levy and McCalla was dropped, and years later McCala was murdered in Florida. How in the world some people love to put not only mob members, but their families into negative stories is a shame.


the title of this itself is wrong, he was not exposed at all. He was never even arrested or charged.

I just can't stand by and read this revisionist history b.s., seriously. Enough already with opinionated and unsupported statements that have no basis in fact. The truth is Louis Gigante WAS present when MO Levy and Nate McCalla beat Ofcr.. Charles Heinz' eye out if his Skull and was a witness at the trial, for the defense, of course.
Here is the news article and link.
"DAILY NEWS, WEDNESDAY, JULY 2, 1975 27 Sigahte Asks By OWEN FITZGERALD and EDWARD KIRKMAN Councilman-priest Louis Gigante, angered over charges that he failed to cooperate with a grand jury probing an assault on a cop, called yesterday for an investigation of the Manhattan district attorney's office by State Special Prosecutor Maurice Nadjari. ; The Rev. Giffante, who said he witnessed the alleged assault on Lt. Charles Heinz on Feb. 26 that resulted in the removal of ' the officer's left eye, said he offered four times to appear before the jury. He declined to testify, he said, when Assistant District Attorney Robert Dowling insisted that he sign a waiver of immunity. The friends of the Rev. Gigante were later indicted. . r - . - "Why should I waive immunity," he' asked. rhen it was very obvious the district attorney was not conducting a proper investigation ? Ha told me all . witnesses were signing waivers, but that was a lie. I knew they weren't. The DA said it was an open investigation, but he had already Probe DA Office in Assault en (Cop picked the targets of the investigation." District Attorney Robert Morgenthau had no comment. "I've had my experiences with grand juries." continued the South Bronx councilman. "They are not open, they are select. I've got nothing to hide, but I don't want to waive my constitutional rights. This was my decision and the advice of my attorney." . Last week, Morris Levy, 47, president of Roulette Records, and Nathan McCalla, 40, vice president of the firm, were indicted on second degree assault charges. Levy," a friend of murdered Mafia boss Thomas -(Tommy Ryan) Eboli, slugged Heinz while the off-duty officer's hands were being held behind his back by McCalla, according to the indictment. , - ... - - The Rev. Gigante was with Levy, McCalla and at least one woman when 'the fight started outside of Jimmy Weston's E. ' 54th St restaurant. Heinz, accompanied by Police Capt. Peter Lamb and Jack Gold-farb, a. clothing manufacturer, had just leTt Weston's. . - Goldfarb, according to the .indictment, "made an inocuous, flirtatious remark" to the woman in the Gigante group. A fight . ensued, Heinz was struck and Gigante helped break it up, the indictment said. Neither Heinz nor Lamb identified themselves as cops. " , ' , - The Rev. Gigante disagrees with several main points in the indictment. He said he was in Weston's with Levy, whom he called an old friend, McCalla and a woman he knew as Chrissie.- The Rev. Gigante said he did not see Heinz and his friends inside the restaurant. When Gigante's group left Weston's, the priest said, he departed for his : own car parked a few blocks away. " "I heard shouting and screaming behind me. I turned around and saw three men fighting with Levy. -The report said the men weren't intoxicated, but, believe me, they were drunk and they were assaulting people." Gigante said he ran back and help- " ed separate the combatants. The Rev. Gigante also disputed the official reports that he was not wearing clerical garb. "I had on a three-quarter leather jacket," he said. "It was ripped when I broke up the fight." Gigante couldn't recall if he was wearing his Roman collar. "I usually stuff it in my pocket," the priest said. The Rev. Louis Gigante."
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/434243035/

C-note, you seem to have a problem with me and won't drop it., All you had to do was post that, without your "revisionist history" remark and saying you "Can't stand by.."

As for the story you posted, it exonerates Gigante. He did not start the fight, it's in your article.

He tried to break it up when he saw it--that is in your article.


He testified, but when they wanted him to sign a waiver, meaning they could charge him even though he was their witness!

So Rev. Gigante tried to break up a fight, and agreed to help the police, but you still want to say he is guilty of something. He is only guilty of being hated (For whatever reason) by you. You just put up evidence of his innocence.

Let's not get it twisted with you trying to play the victim here, Partner. You have repeatedly made numerous personal comments attacking me and my posts with baseless, unsupported accusations requiring intervention from the administration to save you from further exposure of your ignorance and lack of civility when involved in discussions on this forum. This isn't Wiki, Quora or Reddit, this is GBB where the big boys come to play so you better be on point with facts and come correct and go to the hole strong or don't come at all...you heard.
Let's take a look at the evolution of your responses to the Heinz beating.







You see how your responses evolved when confronted with the facts, that's because you didn't take the time to do your research and really don't know what you're talking about. Then, you get butt-hurt when you get called out on your ignorance. There's a lot of historians, researchers, content creators, authors on this board so you better have your facts straight, be able to support them and have thick enough skin to take the heat when someone knowledgeable disputes your statements.
You're omissions in response to my article speak for themselves, conveniently. First, you deny the incident ever happened then when faced with facts, your response evolves to, oh well he had no involvement at all. Then again, when faced with the facts that place him at the scene, you cite his own statements to exonerate him, as if they carried any weight. The facts are, Fr. Gigante consorted with numerous made men and their associates, many who have business ties to SEBCO, was in the company of two Genovese enforcers who beat Ofcr Heinz' eye out while Gigante stood by. The reason he didn't wave immunity was because he was contradicted by other witnesses and didn't want to be prosecuted for perjury..
See, inothing personal, it's strictly business.

I stand by what I said, if I adapted to new info as it came up I'm proud I did. You are holding some sort of personal grudge, you're being a baby. The article does vindicate him, don't take what I said a week ago and apply it to what I side about the article you just put up today. The news story you found shows Gigante did not assault anyone, and that he tried to help. Now you are calling Levy a Genovese enforcer, You keep moving the goalposts.

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That is not in the story you posted, back it up with something.

Of course you do, doubling down on your ignorance is what people like you do. Further you accuse me of having a personal grudge, when in fact, it is you who has repeatedly made childish comments and resorted to name calling when you don't make your point in debate. If you think the article vindicated him because he didn't hurt anyone it certainly calls into question the content of his character. Both Levy and McCalla were known Genovese associates and enforcers and the fact that a man of the cloth chooses to associate himself with likes of them, undermines his credibility as a priest.

When have you ever backed up anything you've said on this forum, hypocrite.

I have not called you any names, unless you are talking of an older topic, I backed up what I said with the name of man with Levy (Mc Calla) when someone had said it was Gigantic. It wasn't. I have no idea what set you off.

R U guy's still goin' @ it??....no wonder I come less often...come on man , this is about mob disscussion , not arguing./.this blows...I like both of both of u guy's posts , but this makes me wanna go read a book...(maybe , The Plumber by Joe Salerno)..or go 2 a f--ckin' porn site & look @ legends like Seka or Veronica Hart...'nough said. ..good nite ppls.

What did I say to trigger him?