Piggybacking on Gangster BB

I’ve been a member now for a long time and like the fact that other sites like us.

I just sometimes wonder if regular links to websites etc is for the best. Whilst it’s great initially, I’d hate to see it growing in a way that the site ends up becoming a short term footstool for others, then dying.

Maybe I’m just being stupid or possessive..I dunno, but I always trust my gut feeling...

NY, I’m talking specifically about you and honestly don’t mean any harm, but it just kind of slipped in there with the regular links without any introduction or explanation.

I’d hate to think your end game was to “steal” the people here interested in organised crime...You’ve spoken to the hosts of this site, I know you have, so I’d prefer we all knew were we where.

Hi Fergie, I don't believe we've spoken before, so hello.
I don't know what you expect me to say to that. To be honest with you, I don't even understand where you are coming from.

Please explain what what you mean when you say "It just kind of slipped in there with the regular links"? I don't understand.

One thing I will say is that "stealing" people is not my, or my partner Lisa's intention. We have no bad intentions at all.
Do you not like the fact that I write bios and stories for our forum?

I can tell you emphatically that we mean no ill will to anybody on the forum, nor the forum itself. I don't understand why you would be so "possessive" as you say, or be afraid of "stealing." If anything, I truly feel we add something positive to the forum, and are not detracting.

I hope my words have allayed your fears a bit. As you know, we are very busy, and the last thing we want or need is drama as they say. So trust me, we're all good.

Fergie,

This is Lisa and I want to comment and hope I don't offend while doing so....I take offense with your "piggybacking" statement because believe me when I tell you The New York Mafia and Mob Fireside Chat isnt' piggybacking on anyone. All we're doing is sharing our articles/videos. And to be honest...we dont' have to post anything here on BBG as that is not even a factor in our regular daily visitor numbers which has grown significantly in the past year. So, we don't really need to "steal" anyone and who does that anyway???? It's almost laughable that anyone would make such a statement. Take care.

Wow! Both guns...Listen, it’s obvious....use the site, that’s exactly what your doing for your traffic.

But your content is great anyway and it totally interests me, so I have, and will continue to follow you...just a bit fucked up the way your doing it

We’re not stupid

You're out of your mind....I'm not one to show numbers or visitor results...not my style. Nor do I need to...so continue to live in your over-inflated fantasy world. And this is Lisa BTW

NYMafia and Lisa,

I really enjoy the quantity and quality of your posts.You put a lot of work into it,and I think our Board has only gained since you started.

Again,I speak only for myself. Keep it up. The pie's big enough for everyone to have a slice without stealing from someone else's plate.

That's the beauty of all the Boards like this.

Posters share what they can, post interesting topics,throw out hypothetical questions,talk about OC guys that they have known,etc.

So let's enjoy each others contributions,and remember,none of us are on these Boards because we DON'T like talking about OC.

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Thank you Lou. We appreciate your input. But I gotta tell ya, I'm apprehensive to announce that we have a new video for our podcast up tonight. Lol.... The haters are gonna start hating. Lol

Lisa and I are debating whether to even bother posting up announcements or links when we release new mob videos or written mob stories. Lol. I mean, who needs the BS? Am I right or what here? .... what's that old adage? "No good deed goes unpunished?" lol........ thats sorta how we feel in a nutshell. Like we say back in NYC, Nobody here buys us an ice cream cone!

If we decide not to post, then the haters will only have themselves to blame. And those of you who really wanna read our stuff know where we'll be, and how to find us!

If thats how you really feel? After all we've posted up on this forum, for the enjoyment of you members, then I wouldn't be too sure of your last statement! Lol

WOW! Lol..... it's almost comical

I see your point fergie. It is kind of funny how NYMafia only started posting here to get traffic for their online OC work. It's more about selling than telling the truth, but I will admit that I do enjoy some of the stuff that comes from them. I wish them the very best. I particularly like Lisa

I can only speak for myself, but I'm on this board to read content and NYMafia provides good content. I don't see NYMafia sharing their content on this board as "piggybacking" and I don't really see how there would be any kind of competition between blogs and boards. I'm here to read stories, articles...and maybe share some myself (when I find the time to do so) and that's what NYMafia's doing as well. And even if it links to their website...well, they're the ones who put in the time and research for that article and post so I don't see the issue.

NYMafia, keep up the good work.

Look, the guys either trolling or jealous ..

Keep doing what you are doing....

Shit baffles me....... you put out articles and Bios, researched and everything... and people who contribute MUCH less, bitch about it...

The fuck is the complaint? If you wanna write an article, write an article. Wanna do a bio, do a bio, bro. Dont complain when someone else uploads real content. And they get Kudos, it respect.... dont get green eyes.....go fuckin write something or contribute.....

You see the same shit with certain authors or bloggers....like Scott... people like jealously trashing their work...... disagree, fine.....

How the fuck are they gonna ,"STEAL" Gangster bb? Lol?

TKJ, 'THANK YOU!' my feelings exactly! My partner and I truly bust our asses to produce what we consider to be TOP quality content for our website, that we are kind enough to share on this forum for all of "our" members to enjoy. Remember that we too are "members" here, we're not bastard stepchildren!

What are we getting paid to provide you with all we do? That answer is NO! Nobody around here buys us "squat," yet it is our complete pleasure to continue to share what we have with you. And we get shit for it from several other posters? LOL .........Ya kiddin, right guys? What fucking nerve!

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CabriniG, you too get a huge "THANK YOU" in capital letters! I really don't know who the fuck these people are that come at us, or why they do what they do. It truly baffles the fuck out of me as well.

Truth be told, I still don't know what joy these people get out of "trolling" as the term goes, or if they are jealous of us. But I dare say that you are most probably correct in your assessment of their motives.

If you notice, it's usually those who contribute the least (if anything at all constructive to this board), who scream and complain the loudest. Why? Whats their possible motive? I imagine that "trolling" to create havoc and disharmony here on our board is their end game. Either that, or they are "Green-Eyed Monsters" as you so aptly put it, and have such jealousy that they cannot stand it and need to try and knock NYMafia's content down a notch or two if they can (which they can't) to try and make themselves feel better when they look in the mirror.

But whatever their problem is, is just that, "their problem," because Lisa and I could give a fuck less what they think, or about the shit that spills from their mouthes!

We post what we post for "nice" people like you.

If they don't like what we post, then they don't have to click in to read our work. But as they have said themselves, "they enjoy our content", yet still find the need to complain and throw baseless allegations. It's fucked up shit in plain English. They bellyache yet eagerly read all our stuff!

So what the fuck else could it possibly be except complete jealousy. One other possible motive may be that they come here from "another board" (no names mentioned) to try and destroy GBB? Could it be that they are sent here to weaken the fabric of this forum? Could be right? It certainly would then make sense WHY they throw shit our way.

Food for thought no???

Anyway, Thanks again for "manning up" and speaking up on our behalf. There are way too few on here who do. People like to read our stuff, yet hide behind their keyboards when it's time to talk up the "right way." Sad! ..... like their gonna get tracked down in cyberspace and punished or something. No backbone!

Hey, nothing but good will here! It just is a bit different having another actual website host regularly post on here, that was my point.

Worth maybe sliding a few dollars in the direction of site hosts here eh

One more thing while we're at it. I'm sure these type of people would like nothing better that NYMafia chose to not post up anything else on this board. Maybe then that would make them feel better about themselves. Or achieve their fucked up "goals" whatever they are. God only knows!

But if that were the case, do you truly think that would help this forum, or hurt it? If you look at the plethora of content we are nice enough to contribute here, then think about the loss thereof of that same content, you tell me.

And as Cabrini commented so eloquently, just go look at ALL the content that these little weasels DO NOT contribute to this forum. They don't post articles, or bios, or newspapers, or anything else of real value. Only complaints, baseless accusations, insults, and bullshit!

Any logical person has to ask themselves why that is??

Start researching, making notes, gathering photos and news, writing, correcting and editing, finishing, and then posting up stuff. Then we'll see what they can do! Then maybe they'll realize just how hard it really is, and shut the fuck up! Or put up as the saying goes! Or maybe they already do know and cannot do it, thats why they try and break balls...jealousy and green-eyed envy. Plain and simple! Lol

Is that what you call it, "good will?"

Wait! You think people are jealous if they criticize you? Jealous of what? All the millions of dollars you're making?

I call 'em like I motherfucking see 'em. Lisa is a brilliant writer, but the other one simply isn't.

The articles aren't worth any money, but I would've gladly paid for Guilt For The Gutless. Check out the audiobook on YouTube. Just brilliant.

It's not even the same shit, they post bios that pertain to the interests of members of the board. This is a place for discussion.

Read CabriniGreens post, he says it perfectly. His words not mine!

I ALWAYS stay out of the petty key board arguments and comments by the same key board tough guys who know it all. But I have to say this out of the blue attack on NYMafia was really (In my opinion) unjust and probably intended to just get a rise out him and fans/supporters (I am a fan of his articles). NYMafia just ignore the ignorant attacks. This is a Organized Crime board, his attack was personal and had nothing to do with OC so why even bother responding. Keep posting NYMafia if anyone has anything to say about your information that's fair game, your motives can be what ever they are. Its not up to anyone but the board hosts to determine if the motives are nefarious or not (I just wanted to use the word nefarious for once!)

This actually made me laugh....surely you jest? How much do you think it costs to run a forum? ~ Lisa B

Just out of curiosity, are you planning on writing another book Lisa?

Thank you Majicrat, I agree with your assessment. These type of people are born troublemakers, and just punks who should be ignored.

I really like the posts from NYMafia. I also enjoy it when they take the time for guessing games prior to posting their latest article, those are enjoyable. The articles on San Francisco and Bay Area LCN were of particular interest as that's my home turf.

I find OC interesting and enjoy reading or watching movies/documentaries on the topic. For me, it's about learning something new and having some fun. NYMafia's posts accomplish both.

So, thank you for providing a lot of great reading material especially during these days when we all probably have a little more downtime than we'd like.

I cannot believe that this dead horse is still being beat.

Let me see if I have this right:
People who enjoy reading OC related content on this Board are bitc#ing about people who provide OC related content to this Board.

As far as NYMafia running a revenue producing hustle,I did a little financial summary.
Here it is:
I added up everything that I spent on NYMafia in 2020 to consistently read enjoyable content,have some fun playing the "who's the Mob Guy" game, and learn about some people that I knew very little of.
Here's the final figure;
Zero fuc#in' dollars and Zero fuc#in' cents !!!

If you have something to post,post it. If not, get a Happy Meal,turn on Netflix,and leave the rest of us alone.

Like others said this is the place for discussion about OC and NY writes about OC. I don’t get the problem at all.

I enjoy everything they do and the board has been more active since they started posting IMO. Maybe I’m wrong numbers wise but I come to read few times a week, they post good shit to read on old timers and defunct families pretty solid contributions to the site IMO

Hey, fergie -

I appreciate you looking out for the GBB, but at this point I have no reason to believe there is any malicious intent. In fact, it's probably been a benefit having the NYMafia folks choosing to contribute here for no compensation other than the satisfaction most readers get from them. I haven't had any problems with it, and I haven't gotten any complaints. They had reached out to me a while back, but there have been no discussions whatsoever about anything (between the holidays and my mom's passing and all that's involved, and life in general, I haven't had much time for that -- sorry about that, NYMafia).

Let's just get back to what we're here for... Of course, anyone with concerns can continue to feel free to report inappropriate posts, etc, and Turnbull or I will look into it.

Thanks!

JG

To NY.....keep doing what doing & keep up the updates..I've listened to The Cherry Hill Gambino's 3 times already!!!..& Lisa has the best O.C. podcast voice out there..

"You call em like you motherfuckin see them"????....... LOL..... Then you better either go see an optometrist, or get yourself a "motherfuckin" seeing-eye dog because you're blind as a bat! Lol

I hardly post obviously but I read on here daily and have been for atleast 10 years (anonymous though) ,especially the good content they post on here. Kinda feels like they keep things active. Keep up the good work!

Just keep posting on here NYMafia. Disagreements happens all the time. Nothing wrong with sites sharing info or knowledge across each others sites. The only issue I have is when permission is not granted, and the person reposting the info does it anyway. There is also the problem when when a poster gives info, that can be obtained by the public, but claims it as there own, there has been many fights over this. Just keep up the good work.

Maybe just call it a day on this topic eh? I felt it was a reasonably straight forward observation I had made and was without any abuse...to then be called, or at least implied, I’m automatically a punk, a troll, jealous or some sort of troublemaker is a bit out of line....

Posts from other websites are obviously intended to increase traffic the other way...it’s also a bit disingenuous to suggest that because some members don’t post the sheer volume that others do, that somehow makes them less worthy to comment. Members have different reasons and motivations for posting on forums, that’s what makes them diverse and interesting.

Again, NY, I don’t have any problem with your content, research or writing, don’t think I ever said that...I just get the impression with a lot of the posts is to generate interest and click on your site which I find little annoying sometimes. No big deal, and it’s likely not an issue for most people, but it might perhaps be an underlying reason you sometimes get a little flack..

Ny gets alot of unnecessary flack in my opinion. There isn't many members who post on the forum and the button guys keeps it interesting. Maybe if more members created interesting threads or at least comment on post, it wouldn't be as noticeable. I see what Fergie is implying but obviously Ny has generated their own fan base aside from this site. I believe we can agree to disagree and still remain cordial.

Too many cry babies in the world today!

Keep posting NY your content is great!

Three times, huh? Hahaha. Now I feel guilty I haven't put up the other two parts yet. Soon. Working on a big NYE one now then back to the series. And thanks for the compliment....it seems to be a huge issue with some...lol. ~ Lisa B

Adding to what Geoff said: NYM and Lisa post thoughtful, well-written and well-researched articles that nearly all people on this board find useful. So do I.

Geoff,

Hadn't heard about your mother's passing. Very sorry to hear that. Thoughts and prayers to you and your family...especially during the holidays. ~ NYM

Let me tell u something N.Y. & my new friend Lisa ....these jitbags that r ragging on about this dumb shit don't know their ass from a hole in the ground...Please keep on the good contributions 2 this site...I'm sure Turnbull don't mind..it only adds more love 2 each & everybody who enjoys minding about O.C.......If it was not 4 N.Y. I would not enjoy such podcasts as the Times Square porno kings...dont get me weird , but that shit facinates me..DiBi? ..love that shit...do u know that in his prime he lived in a 9 $$million home on long isle??????Anyways....Kudos 2 N.Y. & Lisa...& dont forget Lisa...u r as sexy as hell...@ least ur voice say's so..lol..!!!

LOL.... thanks pal!

Thank you Homers77, my feelings exactly. Cry babies and whistle blowers (or rats). I dislike them both.

Turnbull, Thank you pal! Thanks for also stepping up. I'm sure your words (and those of Geoff) mean a lot here, so thanks again for the support!

Don Peppino, what can I say except thank you! They don't call you "Don" for nothing! Lol

Giacomo, call I call you Giacomino? Lol.... Thank you for your support. We appreciate your input and thoughts on the subject.

JamesB, I wanna thank you for stepping up to the plate with your kind words and support. So "grazie mille" as we say in Italian.

Fergie, just delete this thread. This is getting out of hand

the folks at nymafia have elevated this site to new heights. please keep it going, lady and gentleman.

My man Faffy! Thank you pal. For posting your support for us. I know that you and I have spoken privately, so I know where you stand. But thanks for speaking up on this thread as well.

I try and respond to each individual comment of support by all our members. After all, they did take time out of their day to voice their concern and support of us. So it's the least we could do IMO.

But to all the others who also enjoy our content, Lisa and I would like to express our appreciation for your continued support and viewership. It's why we do what we do. And It's nice to be "appreciated" as they say. Especially in light of the recent personal attacks against us and our articles.

So as I said to JamesBontate33, "grazie mille" to all of you out there.

"The Other Guy"

And specifically to Fergie, we hold no personal grudge against you.

I saw that you posted up something to the effect of "great article" a bit earlier (that is now deleted) in response to our most current "expose"

So thank you for trying to be gracious toward us. Going forward, lets all try to get along shall we?

The creeps are the creeps (but I don't wanna put you in that category). I think you just made a wrong "call" so to speak.

"The Other Guy"

I just watched the Indelicato video on YouTube. Very good. So that's my 2 cents of positivity for today LOL

Eh...I didn’t make or delete any comment about a great article earlier! Lol! You’ve got enough compliments without having to make them up from me...

I’m sure whatever one it was, it would have been good anyway, but you’ve definitely got me confused with someone else...

All the best in any case

Sorry Fergie. Lol... I thought I'd seen it on this thread. It was actually the comment you'd made complimenting my Ciro Perrone biography on the other thread. So thank you anyhow for the good thoughts.

I always appreciate a gentleman. And despite our earlier "conflict," you do sound like a gentleman to me. It takes a "man," and a "gentleman" to be nice enough, and man enough, to compliment another person, and you've shown you have that integrity. Unlike a few others who obviously do not have that integrity, are petty, jealous (or whatever their personal problem is) Lol.

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you and yours!

When people do something of value, they will get compliments. I've already recommended Guilt For The Gutless to most of my mob groupie friends. Hope Lisa writes another book.

Hey, Ny, your stuff is great, nobody never said any different....the only problem was, I had a small problem....turns out, it might just be me!

You keep doing what your doing, I’ll keep watching

I’ll compliment you no prob, in fact, I would say most of your posts are great...

The only point of this post is that you should’ve come in straight...this has sorted it out I hope

It’s like walking into somebody’s house and taking over the conversation...you understand why it can piss off some people?

Again, no probs at all, just an issue that had to be raised

All the best X

I totally understand where you're coming from. His posts overwhelm people. It's like he has no life and you want to tell him about Tinder. He means well though. Let's just try to be kind to him

Nah, I find the majority of posts interesting, like most people do...

I am watching though, believe me, I am......

This whole piggybacking is nonsense. If someone is costing you thousands of dollars a month it would be different. We are a tiny fraction of the population interested in this topic. If nobody is taking food off your table you have no beef.

Lisa wrote a book???..Where & how do I get such prized material ??..info please??

Oh yess. It's about the Michael Meldish case

Here is the audiobook. Free for some bizarre reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiNJ5i3-fP0&t

you can go to http://guiltfortheguiltless.com...there's an audiobook and ebook...both are free. It's the story of how Steven Crea was wrongfully convicted for the murder of Michael Meldish.

Why would you give that away for free? It's literally one of the best books I've ever read on the subject

Because it's about getting the story out there not about trying to make a profit off a guy wrongfully convicted.

What a fucking ridiculous answer . You do realize you could give those profits to people who've been wrongfully convicted?

Perhaps you should go take your meds for the day.

You're such an incredible weakling. Have a nice day

Ralphie....Shut the fuck up 4 once will you???..u sound like my wife..always has 2 have the last word....Lisa will destroy u in an adult conversation u f--cking thumbsucker.

That's not Lisa. That's that old man who cries every time he gets criticized.

You remind me of myself Hoodlum lol what you drinking tonight?

Thanks Hoodlum. I did have a really good response ready to go for Ralphie but I decided...eh...why waste it. ~ Lisa B

P.S. Let me know what you think of the book after you get through it.

Nothing much...hours ago, a couple glasses of Cabernet..& a pint of Guiness...now bottled water & watching Margot Kidder in "Sisters" @ TCM...

That was you!! lol. You seem to have real affection for the old man. I got nothing but love for you Lisa. Sorry if I was a little harsh there, just lost my stepsister to covid and am drinkin lol

Good stuff bro RIP Margot Kidder

She was smokin' back in her day...I have a 1974 Playboy issue w/ her as an upcomming actress...alot of the pics r B&White but she has no qualms about showing her hairy pussy & wonderful breasts..

Oh God she had the most amazing pussy. Did you see Black Christmas? She was good in that one also. Not sure if I ever saw Sisters but I need to check' it out

Black Christmas ...I may of seen yrs. ago..but not recently.

OK...I think were going way off topic here...this kind of talk should be on another thread....see u somewhere else..

C'mon, guys... keep the trash (and trashy) talk off here or we'll close this thread...

Yes sir ...I agree as u can c from my above post , I tried 2 end this stuff....I personally apologize Yours Truly ...Hood.

I apologize too. On my last drink as well. Can barely feel my legs

Thats quite alright. We all make mistakes. But it takes a man to admit them. I appreciate your apology.

And I'm glad you enjoy our stuff. Keep reading and watching

Thanks Fergie

I don't usually respond to this type of guttural stuff, nor do I comment on it. But in this case I'm gonna make an exception.

I really don't know who this "Clown" is on our forum. But the shit that spews from of his mouth is usually one step away from what most of us would consider to be a "Troll"

I don't know how or why he's tolerated. I've seen him ruin more good threads for no other reason than his big mouth. He nearly always has a nasty comment and contributes absolutely nothing to any conversation. Nada!

He also has a penchant for talking out of his ass about stuff he doesn't really have a clue about. He's a typical blowhard. And often says things like a "Computer Tough Guy" that ya just know in person he'd NEVER dare say to ya face...He wouldn't have the balls! A typical "Ball Less" individual who lacks a life. I gotta laugh at him. He's basically a "Joke." A bad joke, but a joke nonetheless!

He's a typical "punk" who knows he can hide behind his keyboard and play "Internet Racketeer" for a day.

What a sad sack of shit!

I see from his posts that he is also a heavy alcoholic and druggie. So now it all starts to make more sense. He's clearly out of his mind half the time. His intoxication also helps explain why he can hardly put together 2 sentences that are cohesive and grammatically correct. (although I suspect that its also from his lack of education and basic intelligence)
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That said, I do recommend that we "good posters" just ignore this idiot. If (or more likely when) he starts in with his negative comments and nasty commentary.

As I've said several times on this forum, lets all try and contribute positive content and comments. We (and the forum) will all be better off for it. And it will help elevate these discussions for a much more enjoyable experience for all of us.

"The Other Guy"

Thank you Colonel. You make perfect sense.

I've never belly laughed harder. At this point I just wanna give you a hug. Happy New Year Mr. Glass

You got my support@nymafia
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Firstly, it's up to the owner/mods what's allowed but let's be honest this site has practically covered every conceivable area. It's great value is really as an archive.

You'll learn 50 times more here than in any books.

As long as nym covers the lesser known guys ,it's great.

Anyway , have a great new year

Seems like NYMafia has gotten a solid vote of confidence. This thread is closed.