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Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and

Posted By: DiLorenzo

Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/16/20 09:34 PM

Here's stand up guy Franzese naming names !!

Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/16/20 10:11 PM

I can’t watch 22 min.
He said that nothing he said led to a conviction

He probably could have been caught on audio or video with someone and had no other reasonable answer.


Probably went down like this:

MF: Hey Junior, I have to name a few people I associated with

Junior: Ok, add another $5,000,000 to the current buy-out amount, but don’t say my name.

smile
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/16/20 10:26 PM

He was convicted because of Franzese's testimony...This guy's got everybody bullshitted !!
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/16/20 10:32 PM

Out of all that ... that piece of shit Al Sharpton is still on the streets scamming any one any place he can and calling others out ... he has always been a piece of shit late 70’s early 80’s he was in AC trying to get in with anyone that would get him around Scarfo .
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/16/20 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Serpiente
Out of all that ... that piece of shit Al Sharpton is still on the streets scamming any one any place he can and calling others out ... he has always been a piece of shit late 70’s early 80’s he was in AC trying to get in with anyone that would get him around Scarfo .


They are both stone rats! Franzese and Sharpton. In their own ways they stuck it to everybody. They still are!
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/17/20 08:09 PM

Damn, he's dropping all kinds of names!
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/17/20 08:37 PM

Even Gerry Cooney..He wasn't even asked about Cooney, he volunteered his name...So the guy gives ya a tip and you win an easy $30,000 and you pay him back by snitching on him to congress ?? What a guy !!
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/18/20 04:58 PM

Haha of course Michael Franzese is a rat. He was an impressive earner, even in his early 20s he was an earner, but the man never had the balls to walk the walk. His father was as stand up as they come, but he raised a weakling
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/18/20 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Haha of course Michael Franzese is a rat. He was an impressive earner, even in his early 20s he was an earner, but the man never had the balls to walk the walk. His father was as stand up as they come, but he raised a weakling


Nicely put
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/22/20 08:45 PM

He may not be a 100% rat but this is 100% snitching, even if a lot of these guys were dead or in jail at the time.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/22/20 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
He was convicted because of Franzese's testimony...This guy's got everybody bullshitted !!



who was convicted? Link to the court records?

Franzese is a snitch, not a rat, I dont believe any of his direct testimony put anyone in jail
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/23/20 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
He was convicted because of Franzese's testimony...This guy's got everybody bullshitted !!



who was convicted? Link to the court records?

Franzese is a snitch, not a rat, I dont believe any of his direct testimony put anyone in jail


https://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/15/sports/crime-figure-testifies-to-link-with-sports-agent.html
"Mr. Franzese admitted that he became a Federal informer in February 1986 and that his sentencing in connection with the charges for which he pleaded guilty was contingent upon his cooperation with the Government in several investigations."
"He stated that he had informed the Government of meetings at which Carmine Persico and top leaders of New York's five organized-crime families discussed taking retaliatory measures against Federal agents."

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/20/sports/two-sports-agents-get-prison-terms.html
"While agreeing that Walters and Bloom were not the only guilty parties, Judge Marovich said the sentence was motivated in large part by the testimony of Michael Franzese, the admitted captain in the Colombo organized crime family, who told the court that he was a silent partner in Walters's sports agency and had exerted pressure on Walters's behalf for many years in the entertainment industry."
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/23/20 03:26 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/05/15/...e-boss-is-to-testify-on-russian-mob.html

Him testifying against the Russian mob in front of the subcommittee on organized crime
“Another Mafia defector, Michael Franzese, who has admitted to being a captain in the Colombo crime family, is expected to testify about multimillion-dollar gasoline excise tax frauds engineered by Russian criminals and the Colombos, investigators said”

Here’s the link to the testimony. Notice the dollar figures that come out of Franzese mouth are complete bullshit. Honestly he’s a bullshit artist. He exaggerates the money and he claims he didn’t snitch. Complete and easily verifiable bullshit
https://archive.org/stream/russianorganized00unit/russianorganized00unit_djvu.txt

Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 03:18 AM

Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 08:03 AM

I find it amazing that Michael Franzese has become this YouTube superstar and somehow convinced people he never ratted or was making $7-10 million a week. Now he's reviewing The Sopranos on his channel, claiming it's the greatest show ever made after years of saying the entire show was a joke.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 11:25 AM

Lol yeah Franzese is basically the same as someone like Sharpton. They're all first class stool pigeons and the government just allows them to grift.
Of course everyone snitches these days. I mean, the Italian-American mafia has always been in the spotlights so their rats are widely publicized, but the same thing happens with the Black and Hispanic gangs or any other kind of organized crime these days: it's a stoolie fest all around. And it's not difficult to see why: in the past a snitch would've ended up in the trunk of a crappy car with a crowbar inserted in his anus. These days snitches - especially high profile ones - are the ones that come out laughing. Of course they snitch, because they know they get off with a light sentence after which they can just continue being grifters without disturbance.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 04:48 PM

And 25 years later, he's still scared to the point where he wouldn't even attend his own fathers wake and funeral...That's not because he left the mob, its because he was a rat...Even his own mother says it in that video..That's probably why he left her to be homeless in her last days !!

And this is the bum that all these YouTube groupies fawn over ??
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 04:48 PM

You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
And 25 years later, he's still scared to the point where he wouldn't even attend his own fathers wake and funeral...That's not because he left the mob, its because he was a rat...Even his own mother says it in that video..That's probably why he left her to be homeless in her last days !!

And this is the bum that all these YouTube groupies fawn over ??


No, we are recognizing someone who found god and doesnt think telling the truth is a bad thing. Some of you ascribe to the Gotti "steeple sticking out of my ass" method. The rest of society would like to see this type of shit stop.

Some of you glorifying mobsters on this board because you think its glamorous and something to aspire to. The rest of us are on this board to remember this shit so it doesnt happen again.

You'd rather glorify a guy like Gotti or Lucchese as if any of these people were men of honor. I can't name a single person in the entirety of LCN who had integrity across the board.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 05:00 PM

I haven't glorified any mob guys...I guess that groupie remark struck a nerve !!

And spare me that he found god...He has a nice big house in California, brags almost every day about how much money he made and yet had his mother living in her car and his father in a nursing home, 3,000 miles away...Does that seriously sound like a man of god to you ??
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 05:39 PM

I dont even follow Franzese but I respect a guy who tells the truth a fuck lot more than murdering rapist pieces of shit that some of you think is worth glorifying because they didnt rat.


all of these people are reprehensible individuals

only those who have seen the error of their ways and are trying to atone are in any way worthy of any level of respect

Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
I dont even follow Franzese but I respect a guy who tells the truth a fuck lot more than murdering rapist pieces of shit that some of you think is worth glorifying because they didnt rat.


all of these people are reprehensible individuals

only those who have seen the error of their ways and are trying to atone are in any way worthy of any level of respect



But yet here you are defending a guy you don't even "follow"....so how would know what he says and doesn't say and whether it's fact or fiction? -- Lisa B
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 06:09 PM

Franzese tells the truth ?? He gets caught in lie after lie as the above videos prove..

If he's trying to atone for his mistakes, then he should give restitution to the kids of his best friend that he had killed so he could make even more money off the gas scam !!
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 06:43 PM

H
Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
I haven't glorified any mob guys...I guess that groupie remark struck a nerve !!

And spare me that he found god...He has a nice big house in California, brags almost every day about how much money he made and yet had his mother living in her car and his father in a nursing home, 3,000 miles away...Does that seriously sound like a man of god to you ??



BINGO!!!!........ DiLorenzo, you hit the nail square on the head! DONE! 1000%....... if ANYBODY cannot see what you are saying, and doesn't understand it, and agree with that assessment, then they are either blind and deaf, retarded, or both!

Michael Franzese was, and is, a rat! Plain and simple! There is no two ways about it. He is a greedy, self-centered scumbag. A spoiled brat who lived off his fathers name. He hung his blood family out to dry, his personal friends, his "associates," even his first wife and children to leave for Cali to make another life and family with some girl he met and was smitten by. I guess his first wife (and the beautiful little kids he had made with her were not good enough). POS!
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 07:03 PM

He said something that he loved his brother on one of his videos and all suckers were eating it up and saying you're a great guy Michael to forgive your brother etc..I couldn't take it anymore and posted do you think his brother appreciates Michael always mentioning that he's a junkie and rat in almost every video he makes ?? Franzese deleted the comment...

Interesting that you bring up his wife...Franzese wrote in his book and always says in videos that his father put a contract out on him, but when that Trevor Mcdonald did his video, he interviewed Franzese's wife and she said that she didn't want Michael to go to NY to visit his father because she didn't trust Sonny and then she said Michael told her you're crazy, my father would never do that...She basically contradicted everything he's said !!
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
He said something that he loved his brother on one of his videos and all suckers were eating it up and saying you're a great guy Michael to forgive your brother etc..I couldn't take it anymore and posted do you think his brother appreciates Michael always mentioning that he's a junkie and rat in almost every video he makes ?? Franzese deleted the comment...

Interesting that you bring up his wife...Franzese wrote in his book and always says in videos that his father put a contract out on him, but when that Trevor Mcdonald did his video, he interviewed Franzese's wife and she said that she didn't want Michael to go to NY to visit his father because she didn't trust Sonny and then she said Michael told her you're crazy, my father would never do that...She basically contradicted everything he's said !!


Correct. There are a million more things about his bullshit persona that he's "styled" for himself over the years. With all the suckers eating it up like its gospel.

He's a jerkoff. A wealthy jerkoff. But a jerkoff nonetheless. And a rat. and a degenerate who threw his entire family under the bus for money, etc, etc.

But I am not here to invalidate M. Franzese. If anybody REALLY checked his history, most of it is there to see for themselves. I hate to use the word "legitimate suckers" but that's what he's playing legitimate people for. Suckers!! Plain and simple.

He's a car salesman. He did it for a living. Lol and he does it in theory.

He's NOT a rat??? Go ask Junior Persico, Little Allie Boy, Jerry Lang, Joe T, Little Vic, and all the rest of em. Go ask Chin!! See what they say.

DO NOT MAKE ME LAUGH!.... because he's a fucking clown!

Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g



LMFAO if you don't get that Franzese is a bonafide grifter I don't know what to tell you. Found God? That's what they call a shtick. Franzese's a rat and now he's just hustling his way through life having all of those chumps fooled.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g



LMFAO if you don't get that Franzese is a bonafide grifter I don't know what to tell you. Found God? That's what they call a shtick. Franzese's a rat and now he's just hustling his way through life having all of those chumps fooled.


Correct! and he's making more money with suckers like this idiot TonyBombassolo eating it up and subscribing and paying their money into his pocket.

Like the old adage goes, "there's a sucker born every day, and two to take him!"

Tony is a BORN SUCKER! And there is no redemption for him. He's a lost cause. He must live in "Bumble-fuck, Jerkoff-land" or something. He CANNOT be a NYer or from a major city. Or even be a sharp guy for that matter.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 07:40 PM

No doubt about it, he takes them for suckers...If I recall correctly, he even called a lot of people on YouTube, groupies
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
No doubt about it, he takes them for suckers...If I recall correctly, he even called a lot of people on YouTube, groupies


If this Tony could, I'm sure he'd drop to his knees in a flash in front of Franzese and go to town on him! LOL

What a banana!

Another little observation I've made over the years is that its usually the "Holy Roller" types, the guys who are so indignant, that are less than righteous themselves. They are usually the biggest frauds and bullshitters. If you could peel back the layers of their lives for review, they usually are the biggest hypocrites and frauds of all. Sort of like this "Tony" character.

Anybody with half a brain, and who is confidant in themselves, doesn't need to try and denigrate other people to try and elevate themselves (in their own mind of course). They attack others to put shade on their own activities and integrity (or lack thereof)... Fact!

Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/24/20 08:36 PM

Lol...

I saw Fat Andy Ruggiano's son was interviewed and the guy asked him if Franzese was a rat and said of course he is !!
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
I dont even follow Franzese but I respect a guy who tells the truth a fuck lot more than murdering rapist pieces of shit that some of you think is worth glorifying because they didnt rat.


all of these people are reprehensible individuals

only those who have seen the error of their ways and are trying to atone are in any way worthy of any level of respect



But yet here you are defending a guy you don't even "follow"....so how would know what he says and doesn't say and whether it's fact or fiction? -- Lisa B


Not defending him, calling you out for thinking telling the truth is somehow worse than killing and raping.

FOH with that...you and "the other guy"
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g



LMFAO if you don't get that Franzese is a bonafide grifter I don't know what to tell you. Found God? That's what they call a shtick. Franzese's a rat and now he's just hustling his way through life having all of those chumps fooled.


what mafia associate or made man isnt a piece of shit? I said he told the truth there, didn't he? Depending on who is posting Franzese is either 100% full of shit, or ratted on everyone and their mother. All of you have firsthand knowledge right?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 04:52 AM

Because you'd know? They write you letters? Or call you on the telephone? I guess you are the guy with the "firsthand knowledge" huh? LOL

What a misguided blowhard
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g



LMFAO if you don't get that Franzese is a bonafide grifter I don't know what to tell you. Found God? That's what they call a shtick. Franzese's a rat and now he's just hustling his way through life having all of those chumps fooled.


what mafia associate or made man isnt a piece of shit? I said he told the truth there, didn't he? Depending on who is posting Franzese is either 100% full of shit, or ratted on everyone and their mother. All of you have firsthand knowledge right?



Its all public..Did you even watch the video of his own mother calling him a rat ??
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Because you'd know? They write you letters? Or call you on the telephone? I guess you are the guy with the "firsthand knowledge" huh? LOL

What a misguided blowhard


He sounds like he's paying the $6 a month to be part of Michael's YouTube crew !!
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g


Says the guy that defendsChristie Ticks protege's. You might need to put on medication
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Because you'd know? They write you letters? Or call you on the telephone? I guess you are the guy with the "firsthand knowledge" huh? LOL

What a misguided blowhard


He sounds like he's paying the $6 a month to be part of Michael's YouTube crew !!


I guess the $6 bucks a month makes him an "honorary" wiseguy.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
You people need serious fucking help.

You've glorified murderers and rapists to the point that you now think if they dared to tell the truth they somehow aren't good people?

You know because people like Christy Tick who gang raped 15 year old girls, hes more worthy of your affection than someone like Franzese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2tkWJ3u9g


Says the guy that defendsChristie Ticks protege's. You might need to put on medication


He's one of those "holly roller" types I guess. You know the type don't you? The kind of guy who spouts all these high and altruistic morals, and shows how indignant he is at all of it, and then down the road he gets caught with a little kid in a motel room. Lol

But in the meantime, he was insulting other people and "telling" them how fucked up they were. Lol....give me a break Pleeeez
Posted By: Friend_of_Henry

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
I dont even follow Franzese but I respect a guy who tells the truth a fuck lot more than murdering rapist pieces of shit that some of you think is worth glorifying because they didnt rat.


all of these people are reprehensible individuals

only those who have seen the error of their ways and are trying to atone are in any way worthy of any level of respect



But yet here you are defending a guy you don't even "follow"....so how would know what he says and doesn't say and whether it's fact or fiction? -- Lisa B


Not defending him, calling you out for thinking telling the truth is somehow worse than killing and raping.

FOH with that...you and "the other guy"

So you are talking to me, Mr. Internet tough-guy. The only thing more cowardly that whiskey muscles are internet muscles. Assuredly you're Franzese's little bitch, yuck! Now go back to lovin' up to your Master. Don't bother to respond as I don't get in pissin' contests with skunks. Merry Christmas ;-)
Posted By: Lou_Para

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 07:02 PM

F.O.H, as always,I get a major kick out of your posts,especially when you take on people who bring knives to gunfights. I won't single out any particular individuals, but I'll lay odds that most of these "gintaloons" have never known,hung out,partied,or broken bread with anyone in "the life", so they don't even deserve the courtesy of a response. Of course, they consider themselves on your level because they read a bunch of sh#t on Wikipedia,(or more likely they have someone read it to them). Buon Natale,my friend.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb

Says the guy that defendsChristie Ticks protege's. You might need to put on medication


I didnt defend him, I pointed out he isn't a bigger piece of shit for ratting than that rapist you seem to glorify.

Do yourself a favor, ignore me, because clearly you dont want to hear anything but your own voice.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Friend_of_Henry

So you are talking to me, Mr. Internet tough-guy. The only thing more cowardly that whiskey muscles are internet muscles. Assuredly you're Franzese's little bitch, yuck! Now go back to lovin' up to your Master. Don't bother to respond as I don't get in pissin' contests with skunks. Merry Christmas ;-)


I dont know are you the same person as NYMAFIA who sends me PMs from two different people using the same account? If so, you have multiple accounts which is against ToS.

Moving on...

1. I dont follow Franzese, because he isnt posting anything we dont already know.
2. Go glorify more murderers and rapists because they didnt rat on their raping murdering pals.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Lou_Para
F.O.H, as always,I get a major kick out of your posts,especially when you take on people who bring knives to gunfights. I won't single out any particular individuals, but I'll lay odds that most of these "gintaloons" have never known,hung out,partied,or broken bread with anyone in "the life", so they don't even deserve the courtesy of a response. Of course, they consider themselves on your level because they read a bunch of sh#t on Wikipedia,(or more likely they have someone read it to them). Buon Natale,my friend.


a knife to a gunfight?

because I pointed out that half the people you are glorifying are raping murdering pieces of shit?

whats it like knowing your glory days are well past you?
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 07:23 PM

Christy Tick was a man's man. If we had more real men in this world, we wouldn't be having so many weaklings running around. How anyone can side with a rat over someone like Christy Tick is shocking to me.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
because I pointed out that half the people you are glorifying are raping murdering pieces of shit?


...but that wasn't quite the point.

The point was that people were pointing out that Mikey Franzese's a squealer. Like a knight in shining armour you came running to Mikey's defense, rimming his asshole, gobbling his balls, denying that he's in any way shape or form a rat and even going as far as saying he's a "good guy" because he "found God" and he "tells the truth" (which he, by the way, does not).

So according to you; when a gangster does the crime after which he decides to do the time without snitching, he's a piece of shit BUT when a gangster does the crime, decides to become a stoolie to get off with a light sentence, hypocritically claims he "found God" after which he starts milking his past "reprehensible actions" for all they're worth (conning thousands of suckers in the process)...he suddenly is "a good guy"?

Something doesn't add up there.
Posted By: Friend_of_Henry

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/25/20 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lou_Para
F.O.H, as always,I get a major kick out of your posts,especially when you take on people who bring knives to gunfights. I won't single out any particular individuals, but I'll lay odds that most of these "gintaloons" have never known,hung out,partied,or broken bread with anyone in "the life", so they don't even deserve the courtesy of a response. Of course, they consider themselves on your level because they read a bunch of sh#t on Wikipedia,(or more likely they have someone read it to them). Buon Natale,my friend.


Grazie. What can be said about these "gintaloons" who live their make believe, wantabe wiseguy life through what the read on the internet. All in all they don't know shit!
Not to wofrry, as I've already said: "I don't get in pissin' contests with skunks and this dickhead is definitely a skunk! Buon Natale and stay safe my friend :-)
Posted By: Njein

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/31/20 11:33 PM

which side was he on during the 3rd Colombo war?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 12/31/20 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Njein
which side was he on during the 3rd Colombo war?


The FBI ..... Lol

Seriously, he turned informant in early 1986 (maybe earlier). The third Colombo War was from 1991-1993. So he was not in it, nor did he have any information about it. He was living in California and working with law enforcement at that time spilling his guts to the feds..
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 01/01/21 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Njein
which side was he on during the 3rd Colombo war?


His father was a Persico loyalist. I imagine Michael sided with Persico, but he was already gone by '88.
Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 01/01/21 03:16 PM

I don’t think I’m getting the argument here... is it better to be a squeaker monster that does all of those bad things... or a stand up monster that does all of those bad things... both categories do the bad things we should all condemn the bad things that are done by these men...no?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 01/01/21 04:18 PM

My feelings on the subject is that regardless of what "team" you might play for. When you take an oath, good, bad, or indifferent, be a man - "Uomo" and live up to your oath.

Love em or hate em, wiseguys have a doctrine that they are supposed to live by. When you commit to something in life, see it through. Don't "weasel" out of your responsibilities as soon as your shoelaces get tightened.

I view it the same as an FBI agent. You take an oath to uphold the law. Don't then backdoor your agency and sell out your badge and honor for the few dollars of a bribe, or for another self-serving reason. It would be the same as someone in government or public office, or a member of the armed services. Honor the oath you took!

And believe it or not even FBI agents are generally repulsed by "rats" and whistle blowers. They may use the information they glean from such people. But they generally don't view them with respect.

Thats why you'll often hear agents even begrudgingly compliment a mafioso who takes it on the chin and goes to jail for a long period of time without ratting on his compatriots. There is something "Honorable" about that.

It's basically "Un-American" to be a backstabber or turncoat. But too many guys throw in the towel to save their own asses off the backs of their friends. Not nice!
Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 01/01/21 04:32 PM

So it’s the oath thing... lots of people don’t honor their oaths ranging from public servants, military members, national level politicians, married people, and anyone who made a “blood oath” to a friend when they were kids! We are a messy society indeed! Egads!
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 01/01/21 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmy_Two_Times
So it’s the oath thing... lots of people don’t honor their oaths ranging from public servants, military members, national level politicians, married people, and anyone who made a “blood oath” to a friend when they were kids! We are a messy society indeed! Egads!


I 1000% agree with your assessment. An "oath" is an oath, regardless of what it's to.

Public servants, Military, National level politicians, married folks, comrades in arms, etc., etc., etc.......... Regardless of what you raised you right hand to or what bible you swore it on, to then "betray" that oath (regardless of what it was), and throw others under the bus to save your own ass is (for me) the telltale mark of a punk, and a weasel. Its NEVER a good look on somebody.

Even as children in the classroom or the schoolyard. You know "that kid", the one who'd go "tattle tailing" to the teacher or principal on the other children. He was looked at as a leper and viewed with destain by the other kids.

It's the same sort of thing in larger adult life. Once you sign up for something see it through. And in the particular situation of the underworld. If you have a change of heart and wanna walk away from the life (understandably), do so with your chin up and honor intact.

NOT by becoming a rat, informer, stool pigeon, turncoat, Benedict Arnold against your former friends who you rubbed shoulders with and who counted on you. Its just not nice, or an "Honorable" thing to do!

I HATE RATS!.... in any way, shape, or form! Its just how I was raised.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Michael Franzese testifies on organized crime and - 01/14/21 04:13 PM

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