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Posted By: Zavattoni

Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 06:20 PM

I just looked into the federal inmate indicator and it shows that Anthony Casso died yesturday (12/15/20)

The last I knew he had COVID-19.

Anyways; What is everyone’s thought?
Posted By: British

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 06:35 PM

No loss in anyway shape or form..
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 06:35 PM

Great street mind but no doubt a serial killer .
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 06:37 PM

You beat me too it. A lot of people can sleep easier now. As twisted as he was, the feds screwed him. Vic Amuso even felt they did.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 07:42 PM

Thanks for the news Zavattoni
Posted By: Lou_Para

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 09:16 PM

If there's any justice, his last hours were filled with fear and pain,and he died alone,just like Jimmy Hydell. Roast in peace,scumbag.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 09:40 PM

I thought about this the other day.

Corallo chose him and Vic either because he knew he would get a bigger kick up in jail OR, he knew they would whack Luongo regardless.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 10:42 PM

Big loss to Planet Earth. Lol
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by ItalianIrishMix
I thought about this the other day.

Corallo chose him and Vic either because he knew he would get a bigger kick up in jail OR, he knew they would whack Luongo regardless.


In truth, I believed they seized power. Corallo (from East Harlem) did NOT promote them. Christy Ticker did. They were not Corallo and Santoro's choice for boss. Buddy Luongo was. But they clipped Luongo and seized power. And Furnari backed their play with Corallo.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 10:44 PM

Looks like every old guy who dies now, dies of Covid.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/16/20 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Looks like every old guy who dies now, dies of Covid.


Yep. This Covid is sensitive shit, especially with older guys
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by ItalianIrishMix
I thought about this the other day.

Corallo chose him and Vic either because he knew he would get a bigger kick up in jail OR, he knew they would whack Luongo regardless.


In truth, I believed they seized power. Corallo (from East Harlem) did NOT promote them. Christy Ticker did. They were not Corallo and Santoro's choice for boss. Buddy Luongo was. But they clipped Luongo and seized power. And Furnari backed their play with Corallo.


Thanks!. Didn’t know Tic did... Damn misinformation on TV bios.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Zavattoni
I just looked into the federal inmate indicator and it shows that Anthony Casso died yesturday (12/15/20)

The last I knew he had COVID-19.

Anyways; What is everyone’s thought?


And nothing of value was lost except his true story.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by ItalianIrishMix
I thought about this the other day.

Corallo chose him and Vic either because he knew he would get a bigger kick up in jail OR, he knew they would whack Luongo regardless.


In truth, I believed they seized power. Corallo (from East Harlem) did NOT promote them. Christy Ticker did. They were not Corallo and Santoro's choice for boss. Buddy Luongo was. But they clipped Luongo and seized power. And Furnari backed their play with Corallo.

I also don't believe Corallo picked them. I could be wrong. It's said Tony Ducks and Tom Mix had a beef during the Commission trial. He could have stuck it to Mix by tapping the Brooklyn faction but personally I think Tony would have gave it to the Long Island guys before the Brooklyn guys. Vic and Gas just whacked out or intimidated their strongest rivals and took over.
Posted By: chin_gigante

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 11:56 AM

According to Casso, it was Corallo who put Amuso in charge of the family. Because of his upcoming incarceration he wanted to name a successor and, after discussions within the family, named Amuso boss in late 1986. (In the Philip Carlo book, Casso later claims he was offered the boss spot but turned it down in favour of Amuso). Corallo then gave the order to kill Anthony Luongo because of rumours that he was planning to take over the family. Amuso, Casso, Bobby Amuso and Dom Carlucci lured Luongo to a house under the pretence of a meeting to discuss the recent attempt on Casso's life. Bobby Amuso then shot him.

D'Arco says that Amuso approached him in late October 1986 and told him he had been made the new boss (and that he had promoted Casso to captain of the old Furnari crew). According to D'Arco (who had been told this by Amuso and Casso), Luongo and Anthony DiLapi were part of a plot by Santoro to seize control of the family around the time that Santoro and Luongo were convicted. To prevent this, Luongo had to be killed. Amuso and Casso then lured Luongo to a house owned by a friend of Amuso's under the pretence of consulting with him about a dispute. Amuso then shot him and the body was buried somewhere in Canarsie.

According to William Oldham, it was up to Corallo to decide on his successor and he had to choose between the Bronx faction, the Brooklyn faction or the New Jersey crew. He settled on Amuso and Casso. In November 1986, he called the pair to a meeting and told Furnari to choose which one of them should become boss. Casso turned it down and it went to Amuso. Corallo and Santoro were not getting along at that point and Santoro wanted Luongo to become boss. Amuso and Casso decided to kill Luongo and ordered Santoro to lure him to a meeting at Dom Carlucci's home where he (Luongo) was killed.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Big loss to Planet Earth. Lol



nothing like running your mouth about a guy you never met, after he died, the same guy who would have knocked your fucking teeth out if you had the stones to say it to his face

same mafia guys you spend how much time and effort talking about? if we were in the bar I'd check your fuckin privelege and I bet you'd put your notebook away and crawl back to your house
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by ItalianIrishMix
I thought about this the other day.

Corallo chose him and Vic either because he knew he would get a bigger kick up in jail OR, he knew they would whack Luongo regardless.


In truth, I believed they seized power. Corallo (from East Harlem) did NOT promote them. Christy Ticker did. They were not Corallo and Santoro's choice for boss. Buddy Luongo was. But they clipped Luongo and seized power. And Furnari backed their play with Corallo.

I also don't believe Corallo picked them. I could be wrong. It's said Tony Ducks and Tom Mix had a beef during the Commission trial. He could have stuck it to Mix by tapping the Brooklyn faction but personally I think Tony would have gave it to the Long Island guys before the Brooklyn guys. Vic and Gas just whacked out or intimidated their strongest rivals and took over.


the level of shittalking by keyboard warriors about Amuso being made boss....you know the same fucking Amuso who has been boss since what...87? Other than Jr. hes one of the longest serving bosses of all time. Tony Ducks picked a strong fucking boss and Casso was the strongest in his family so thats why he went to him first. This is why Gigante gave the Gotti hit to Casso and his team, because they were strong. The level of shit talking that you people do based on some fucking hack writer or some fucking rat is staggering.

Meanwhile....half the other families bosses turned informant, and Amuso is still boss, and only Gaspipe ratted.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by chin_gigante

According to William Oldham, it was up to Corallo to decide on his successor and he had to choose between the Bronx faction, the Brooklyn faction or the New Jersey crew.



The staggering government hypocrisy with Casso here is on full display. When Casso says the cops were crooked, they believe him. When he says Sammy the Rat lied on the stand in the Gotti case, he is lying? LOL foh.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Big loss to Planet Earth. Lol



nothing like running your mouth about a guy you never met, after he died, the same guy who would have knocked your fucking teeth out if you had the stones to say it to his face

same mafia guys you spend how much time and effort talking about? if we were in the bar I'd check your fuckin privelege and I bet you'd put your notebook away and crawl back to your house





Tony the Bomb, First of all I'm not "running my mouth" as you so rawly put it, I'm stating a fact! Casso was a compete piece of shit! There are wise guys, and then there are wiseguys. Some are decent, some not so much. Some are killers. Some not so much. But Casso was a next level scumbag who killed with little provocation.

He was a psychotic, ego-maniac, wanton killer of the first order. A nut job! ... He was NOT a level headed guy. NOT a fella who only "did what he had to do" and kill as a last resort. But actually took glee in killing. He looked forward to it. He longed for it. He killed enemies, friends and family alike. Zero remorse, zero hesitation.

Here was a guy who held nothing dear to him. He "admits" to 36 murders, of enemies and buddies alike. And the feds think he actually had a few more notches that he never admitted to.
Thats "serial killer" shit by anyones standards. Even the Mafia!

I have written about tons of racketeers and mob guys. Many of them I knew on a very personal basis. I actually never got to meet Casso (although I came close on one occasion between us). I'm very glad that I never did meet him.... as I said NO loss to the planet earth. And most wiseguys who "really" knew him say the same exact thing.

And remember one more thing I'm gonna tell ya. Without a gun or knife in his hand Casso was not so tough. His strength came from the end of a gun, and his absolute disregard for human life. Any life! He was a very dangerous guy because he was a psychotic fuck. End of story. So he's definitely not someone I look up to, or think was a "great" wiseguy.

There are plenty of fellas who I think had admirable redeeming qualities, but he's not one of them.

And let's face it, Casso became a stone rat!!! It took him about 2 seconds (if that) to turn rodent! So in my book?? LOL..... NO he's not a tough guy, or even a wiseguy. He's a fucking psychotic, double-banking, rat cocksucker, who I'm glad they tore up his agreement and let him rot. He was a degenerate of the first order! Many wiseguys hated him.

In fact go ask Amuso what he thinks of his former partner in crime. Go see what Vic has to say.

PS: By the way, Casso was NOT on a level of a Corallo, Santoro, Migliore, etc. Not even close. And these people had no love for him.

And I don't typically talk like that about guys in the can. Its a place I wouldn't wanna even see an enemy have to go to. But in Casso's case I'll make an exception!

While I'm at it I might as well mention one more thing. IMO (and that of many wiseguys), Although a solid guy, Amuso was the wrong choice for boss. He was mostly led by the nose by Casso, who manipulated Vic like crazy. In a mere 5 years as boss and underboss, those two absolutely destroyed what had been one of the most cohesive borgatas in history.

All they did was rob guys, kill innocent guys (and their family members), take what wasn't theirs to take, and created an avalanche of rats who "turned" for no other reason but to save themselves from two nut jobs. They literally destroyed that family. And the Lucchese's never rebounded from their destruction. Chiodo, Accetturo Sr., D'Arco, Defede, and so many others, were all solid guys who turned rat because of Casso.

Nah, he was a complete jerk off.



Posted By: MemphisMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 02:25 PM

Down in Florida Casso shot and buried a man while still alive.Fuck Casso
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia



Tony the Bomb, First of all I'm not "running my mouth" as you so rawly put it, I'm stating a fact!




your entire internet presence is talking about and romanticizing mafia guys but Casso is somehow a special piece of shit?

typical for anyone who wants to be a journalist

yeah Casso was a piece of shit rat but not any more so than any of the other rats or murderers and at least he didnt bring down the entire commission from running his mouth like your example Corallo did

you say Corallo didnt respect Casso but he offered the seat to him how much BS are you gonna post?


Posted By: Fleming_Ave

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 02:44 PM

Yeah, Casso was unusually brutal.



Originally Posted by MemphisMafia
Down in Florida Casso shot and buried a man while still alive.Fuck Casso
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by MemphisMafia
Down in Florida Casso shot and buried a man while still alive.Fuck Casso


Paul Carbone was buried alive up to his neck for 3 days before being rescued. Again, this behavior is nothing new to Shitpipe the rat and I am baffled why people act like his behavior was somehow different.

Did everyone forget about Demeo and his crew, Mad Sam DeStefano or any of the other nutcases? Casso isn't even close to any of those lunatics and in ruthlessness Id put him behind Persico.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 02:53 PM

"Mobsters kill as a last resort."

NYMafia has come out with some gems but this is probably the best.

lol
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by NYMafia



Tony the Bomb, First of all I'm not "running my mouth" as you so rawly put it, I'm stating a fact!




your entire internet presence is talking about and romanticizing mafia guys but Casso is somehow a special piece of shit?

typical for anyone who wants to be a journalist

yeah Casso was a piece of shit rat but not any more so than any of the other rats or murderers and at least he didnt bring down the entire commission from running his mouth like
your example Corallo did

you say Corallo didnt respect Casso but he offered the seat to him how much BS are you gonna post?




I gotta ask you Tony, do you have a special dislike for me or something? Or are you related to Casso per se? Because I just explained my position and feelings on Casso. You seem like your very pumped up about defending Casso, or attempting to insult me. Why?

Yes, there are others who fall in his category, and as far as I'm concerned they too fall in the "serial killer," "no redeeming quality" category. You see most wiseguys are NOT like him. Many are "capable" and do what is ordered of them, yet have a distain for violence and murder. It's not in their basic playbook. Casso on the other hand actually loved killing. I put him in the same category as a Charlie Carneglia, or a Tommy Pitera. Sick puppies. Serial killers who fly under the "Cosa Nostra" label but are really just demented individuals.

The only difference between him and a Charlie Manson is that Manson didn't have a vowel at the end of his name. But both were delusional screwballs.

In the end, the one single solitary thing he could have done was to "stand up" and be a fucking man! Take the life sentence that you encouraged so many others to do and go do your time like a man. But he didn't. He RATTED! So in reality you gotta ask yourself, what kind of a guy was this?

He obviously was a serial killer, and self-centered rat fuck who didn't really care about his men or their blood families, his borgata, the oath he took, the Lucchese's or anything else for that matter. Stand up guy? Lol.... "Tough guy?" LOL... don't make me laugh.

He was a stone rat punk! And he proved that out for all the world to see. (I double down on my first statement). He was a complete degenerate with NO redeeming qualities.

PS: and he happened to have hurt several friends of mine along the way ok? So there is good reason for me to feel the way I do. Not to mention that the rest of the world (John Q. Public, and the mob feel the exact same way).


Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:12 PM

Anthony Casso was, for all intents and purposes, boss of the Lucchese Crime Family. So they effectively made a serial killer boss of their family. Great guys one and all, as NYMafia says.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:19 PM

All the mob families, the bigger ones anyway, profited from child pornography and child prostitution. Hell, the Gambino Crime Family made a child pornographer a capo (Robert Di Bernardo) and inducted another child pornographer into the family (Roy De Meo).

If any one of us worked under, or with, someone who was contributing to the circulation of child abuse, the lowest of the low, we would disavow them and report them to the authorities.

Yet NYMafia persists with the masturbatory tributes to people like John Gotti who left the children of his civilian neighbor without a father by having him killed in a manner befitting a Saw movie.

And that's not even the worst part. The worst part is he acts like guys like John Gotti are somehow better than guys like Anthony Casso.
Posted By: majicrat

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:21 PM

In my opinion and I've made this known in past postings, I have ZERO sympathy for any mobster (I did make an exception for Bobby Manna being held and refused early release) and really couldn't care how much they suffer on their way to hell. This guy CASSO is in a class with very few others, a friend said it best when we discussed his dying. CASSO just happened to be a serial killer in the mob. By all accounts the guy was pure evil, I don't recall a single person in the know ever saying a good thing about him. Unless you wanna count he was a money maker? lol. BTW I would say he was coward and a fraud as well. Once the feds got him he couldn't do his time and ratted. I agree 100% without a gun (and others too) aren't tough guys, just murderers. There's a huge difference. Very few will just throw down one on one and without weapons. Now, Tommy Karate...well
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Anthony Casso was, for all intents and purposes, boss of the Lucchese Crime Family. So they effectively made a serial killer boss of their family. Great guys one and all, as NYMafia says.


THAT I totally agree with you on (I'm shocked that we agree on anything) Lol. The fact that Casso became the "Boss" or underboss for Amuso (but in truth pretty much ruled the roost) is a very sad commentary about the powers at the helm of the family at that time.

Instead of killing innocent members and the public at the drop of a hat on Casso's orders. Once the overall membership realized what Casso truly was, they should have gotten together and whacked him out! They would saved many, many lives. They would have prevented a dozen guys going "bad" and the Lucchese Family as a whole would have been much better off for it.

Tony Ducks was a sharp business guy. He was no pushover, but he wasn't a blood thirsty guy either. Tommy Lucchese was the exact opposite of a Amuso or Casso.

Lucchese was a astute businessman, great leader; not selfish, not greedy, not a stone killer, etc etc. THAT was what the Lucchese's were originally built on. Once Amuso and Casso rose to prominence the crew was never the same.

There were actually many soldiers who chose to retire, or just back up because of the Amuso/Casso operating "style."

That in itself tells a huge tale.
Posted By: majicrat

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:29 PM

Before I forgot, If they were so tough and feared CASSO was destroying the family and putting them all in jeopardy,instead of becoming rats and running to the feds, why didn't these so called stand up guys, do exactly what Gotti did, gather enough of the family together and take them out? Because in truth they don't give a rats ass about traditions, and aren't that tough. They ran like little girls to the FEDS for safety. So those who say CASSO forced them to turn rat I say BS. They were cowards and looking out for #1. So in essence they ALL contributed to the demise of the family. IMO
Posted By: majicrat

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:30 PM

You beat me to it NYMAFIA
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
All the mob families, the bigger ones anyway, profited from child pornography and child prostitution. Hell, the Gambino Crime Family made a child pornographer a capo (Robert Di Bernardo) and inducted another child pornographer into the family (Roy De Meo).

If any one of us worked under, or with, someone who was contributing to the circulation of child abuse, the lowest of the low, we would disavow them and report them to the authorities.

Yet NYMafia persists with the masturbatory tributes to people like John Gotti who left the children of his civilian neighbor without a father by having him killed in a manner befitting a Saw movie.

And that's not even the worst part. The worst part is he acts like guys like John Gotti are somehow better than guys like Anthony Casso.


Oh I see that Moe is starting in again on me. Lol... ok, round #2:

I do not "glorify" John Gotti. I personally think he was very bad for "the life", and many people both in and out of the underworld in general. That said, I don't try and glorify these fellas in general. But I do call a spade a spade. There are members who are decent, there are members who are the worst of the worst.

I do find certain bios I write very interesting and intriguing. I even find some of these guys to have been decent people. (remember I told you that I have had some friendships, etc). Yes, they broke laws. Yes, they schemed; bookmakers, numbers guys, shylocks, etc.

Some of the more violent of these type guys I do find repugnant. But that is like anything else in life. "There is good, not so good, bad, very bad, and then there is a point of no return." People that are so bad that there is no making excuses for them or their behavior. I believe Casso to be one of those guys.

You cannot compare a neighborhood bookie or numbers guy, to a serial killer like Casso. One brush does not paint a true picture on the canvas.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by majicrat
Before I forgot, If they were so tough and feared CASSO was destroying the family and putting them all in jeopardy,instead of becoming rats and running to the feds, why didn't these so called stand up guys, do exactly what Gotti did, gather enough of the family together and take them out? Because in truth they don't give a rats ass about traditions, and aren't that tough. They ran like little girls to the FEDS for safety. So those who say CASSO forced them to turn rat I say BS. They were cowards and looking out for #1. So in essence they ALL contributed to the demise of the family. IMO


It is very hard (near impossible) for one soldier, or even a few, to collaborate on "taking out" a boss. Thats what made Gotti so devastating. He did! It is not all that easy. And Casso was such a paranoid, delusional guy that he killed you on a whim. So he had the entire borgata cowered in fear. Funny, but killing 20-30 guys at the drop of a hat will do that to people. Even mob guys!

I DO agree with you. Thats what should have happened. Or in the least, they should have gone "on the lam" into hiding, and just waited it out for him to get killed or pinched. But you gotta remember the atmosphere in NYC at the time. He was still the boss along with Amuso, so most guys just fell in line.

And yes, the end result was that the Lucchese crew suffered badly from this mismanagement. Its 30 years later and they still haven't recovered. IMO they never will
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 04:07 PM

For the record fellas, I don't agree with, nor do I "glorify" killings by mob guys. To me life is precious, and taking a life (any life) is very serious business indeed.

But I do think that if you are in that life, and you become a rat, then IMO you should get hit in the head! You knew the score beforehand and jumped in the pool to swim anyway. You get caught by police? Go do your time. Stand up like a man. Don't punk out and rat to save your own ass..... its called "honor" and by any normal standards most people would agree. NOBODY likes a rat, not even the FBI and prosecutors although they'll use him.
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But there is a huge difference between a bookmaker, policy guy, shylock, or card and dice game operator, and a guy who wantonly kills for a living. Or worse yet, kills for the "thrill" of it. That for me is serial killer shit.

OTB, Lotto, Pick-6, legalized marijuana, payday loans, places that sell liquor, porn sites, etc etc etc., are doing today what many street guys were arrested for years ago. They were labeled "racketeers" and "gangsters" because they operated outside of society's "norms" and accepted behavior. The Volstead Act that prohibited alcohol (a stupid law), the gambling laws (stupid laws), pornography being immoral (yet today its legal) etc etc......... I find absolutely nothing wrong with ANY of the previous mentioned activities.

And obviously the U.S. government feels the exact same way. In some cases it took many decades for them to admit it, but today most of what was once "illegal" is legal. In fact the G has even stepped in to make money off of it! Its called "hypocrisy"

But a Casso? or guys like him? They are degenerates, plain and simple. And IMO there is NO way to make that right.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 04:37 PM

Was it Anthony Casso who ordered the murders of civilians Robert Kubecka and Daniel Barstow? No. I believe it was Salvatore Avellino who ordered it and delegated the work to Anthony Baratta. Thomas Ricciardi was a soldier in the New Jersey faction under Michael Taccetta. He beat a civilian to death with a golf club because they wanted a piece of his company. Casso's mentor, Chris Furnari, raped a 16 year old girl for fuck sake. These are all powerful guys in the one family and you're acting like Casso was some kind of anomaly or something.

A former consigliere of the Colombo Crime Family (Carmine Sessa) killed the girlfriend of another former consigliere of the same family (Alphonse Persico).

Sammy Gravano killed a kid.

They're not above killing civilians, women, children, feds like Everett Hatcher. And the only reason they don't "take pleasure in killing" now is because of increased surveillance that makes it borderline impossible to get away with it.

I don't doubt some of them are fun to be around and great guys to people they like but I don't see much of what that has to do with anything. Even the worst criminals in earth have some people who've liked them at one point or other - look at Ted Bundy.

And so what if they're "just a bookie". You don't get to be a part of the mafia unless you're willing to get your hands dirty. And they're all knowingly subordinate to people who commit much worse acts and are happy to play their part in the decay of society's fabric.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 05:06 PM

I agree that each of those you mentioned were far from "pillars of society." That said, there are many, many who are not killers, and have little to do with violence (believe it or not).

The guy who got hit with the golf club was "Jimmy Sinatra" Craparotta. He was not a civilian. And Avellino didn't order those murders. He "asked" permission, but ultimately only the boss or underboss can order that.

Furnari, Sessa, and Gravano, were all a bit twisted. And admittedly there are a lot off guys that are violent. Some depraved. But I dare say that the majority of street guys and racketeers don't have those traits. That is what has actually "ruined" the "game plan" so to speak. Violence, begets violence. And it often escalates.

History has proven that the guys who stuck to running their bookmaking and shy books (and other schemes) and stayed away from violence mostly died in their own beds. Many lived profitable and constructive lives believe it or not. They were largely accepted by their communities and were well liked. And their blood families benefited from their outlook on life. Whats the old adage? Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. That mostly true. Especially in the underworld.

The ones that we typically read about, the violent ones who had little regard for life, mostly ended up dead, in jail for life, or became rats to save their asses.

The smarter, savvier and more level-headed guys, those not prone to violence. They fared much better. Even law enforcement recognized that difference.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by chin_gigante
According to Casso, it was Corallo who put Amuso in charge of the family. Because of his upcoming incarceration he wanted to name a successor and, after discussions within the family, named Amuso boss in late 1986. (In the Philip Carlo book, Casso later claims he was offered the boss spot but turned it down in favour of Amuso). Corallo then gave the order to kill Anthony Luongo because of rumours that he was planning to take over the family. Amuso, Casso, Bobby Amuso and Dom Carlucci lured Luongo to a house under the pretence of a meeting to discuss the recent attempt on Casso's life. Bobby Amuso then shot him.

D'Arco says that Amuso approached him in late October 1986 and told him he had been made the new boss (and that he had promoted Casso to captain of the old Furnari crew). According to D'Arco (who had been told this by Amuso and Casso), Luongo and Anthony DiLapi were part of a plot by Santoro to seize control of the family around the time that Santoro and Luongo were convicted. To prevent this, Luongo had to be killed. Amuso and Casso then lured Luongo to a house owned by a friend of Amuso's under the pretence of consulting with him about a dispute. Amuso then shot him and the body was buried somewhere in Canarsie.

According to William Oldham, it was up to Corallo to decide on his successor and he had to choose between the Bronx faction, the Brooklyn faction or the New Jersey crew. He settled on Amuso and Casso. In November 1986, he called the pair to a meeting and told Furnari to choose which one of them should become boss. Casso turned it down and it went to Amuso. Corallo and Santoro were not getting along at that point and Santoro wanted Luongo to become boss. Amuso and Casso decided to kill Luongo and ordered Santoro to lure him to a meeting at Dom Carlucci's home where he (Luongo) was killed.

That phil Carlo book has a thousand lies in it. Along with all of his books. I would take what Casso said with a grain of salt.

I liked the Oldham book. If Luongo was trying to seize power I doubt he would voluntarily go alone to a meeting with Vic and Gas in Brooklyn. I just don't believe Tony Ducks would promote Vic to be the Boss. I could be wrong, he could have had that much faith in Christy Tic.

Remember Casso also claims to be made in 74. claims he was offered Capo in 1980, but turned it down and said it should go to Vic. Claimed he was offered Boss in 86 but turned it down and said it should go to Vic.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by chin_gigante
According to Casso, it was Corallo who put Amuso in charge of the family. Because of his upcoming incarceration he wanted to name a successor and, after discussions within the family, named Amuso boss in late 1986. (In the Philip Carlo book, Casso later claims he was offered the boss spot but turned it down in favour of Amuso). Corallo then gave the order to kill Anthony Luongo because of rumours that he was planning to take over the family. Amuso, Casso, Bobby Amuso and Dom Carlucci lured Luongo to a house under the pretence of a meeting to discuss the recent attempt on Casso's life. Bobby Amuso then shot him.

D'Arco says that Amuso approached him in late October 1986 and told him he had been made the new boss (and that he had promoted Casso to captain of the old Furnari crew). According to D'Arco (who had been told this by Amuso and Casso), Luongo and Anthony DiLapi were part of a plot by Santoro to seize control of the family around the time that Santoro and Luongo were convicted. To prevent this, Luongo had to be killed. Amuso and Casso then lured Luongo to a house owned by a friend of Amuso's under the pretence of consulting with him about a dispute. Amuso then shot him and the body was buried somewhere in Canarsie.

According to William Oldham, it was up to Corallo to decide on his successor and he had to choose between the Bronx faction, the Brooklyn faction or the New Jersey crew. He settled on Amuso and Casso. In November 1986, he called the pair to a meeting and told Furnari to choose which one of them should become boss. Casso turned it down and it went to Amuso. Corallo and Santoro were not getting along at that point and Santoro wanted Luongo to become boss. Amuso and Casso decided to kill Luongo and ordered Santoro to lure him to a meeting at Dom Carlucci's home where he (Luongo) was killed.

That phil Carlo book has a thousand lies in it. Along with all of his books. I would take what Casso said with a grain of salt.

I liked the Oldham book. If Luongo was trying to seize power I doubt he would voluntarily go alone to a meeting with Vic and Gas in Brooklyn. I just don't believe Tony Ducks would promote Vic to be the Boss. I could be wrong, he could have had that much faith in Christy Tic.

Remember Casso also claims to be made in 74. claims he was offered Capo in 1980, but turned it down and said it should go to Vic. Claimed he was offered Boss in 86 but turned it down and said it should go to Vic.



Carlo's book was a fairy tale. End of story! .... very little truth. fiction. And you're right Colonel. Corallo NEVER gave Amuso and Casso the hierarchy. They stole it. And there was nobody who challenged them. It quickly turned bad and the was the beginning of the end.
Posted By: majicrat

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 05:55 PM

"Jimmy Sinatra" Craparotta was one of the biggest if not biggest bookie in Ocean County at the time. He wasn't a made guy but was actually caught between the Lucheses and Bonnanos and who he fell under. Long interesting story for another time
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 06:49 PM

Where the government is wrong is saying that he was still a threat to society...With all the things wrong with him..What threat ?? Just come out and say that his crimes were so horrific he doesn't deserve any sympathy...I'm so fed up with politically correct nonsense !!
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Where the government is wrong is saying that he was still a threat to society...With all the things wrong with him..What threat ?? Just come out and say that his crimes were so horrific he doesn't deserve any sympathy...I'm so fed up with politically correct nonsense !!


agreed
Posted By: Zavattoni

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 07:45 PM

Casso is a POS; No one on earth is going to miss him: He’s rotting in hell hopefully...

Anyways; Wasn’t Anthony “Tumac” Accetturo a candidate for underboss at one point once Corallo had the gut feeling he was being sent away for life...

Buddy Luongo as boss and Tumac as underboss.

Tumac was close to Corallo.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 08:04 PM

I think we need to keep in mind that we know Amuso and Casso were nuts now, after they've killed a bunch of people and messed up the family. But in the mid 80s Amuso was a capable worker, earner, captain for 5 years and came up under the consigliere, Christy Tick. Seems like a good choice for a boss.

I don't trust anything Casso said, but I don't think a guy who brags about burying someone alive or shooting someone 15 times would have any shame saying "they made Luongo the boss, we didn't like it, so we took him out".
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Zavattoni


Anyways; Wasn’t Anthony “Tumac” Accetturo a candidate for underboss at one point once Corallo had the gut feeling he was being sent away for life...

.

On the America's Most Wanted episode when Casso was on the lam, it said Accetturo was the one he was most worried about, trying to take over !!
Posted By: MemphisMafia

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/17/20 11:41 PM

Moe Tilden I can give you examples of politicians and lawmen who were not only doing business with child porn dealers but also actual child predators.They not only didn't report it.They didn't give a shit because their careers were taking off with the help of the sick fucks.I am not picking an argument with you by any means.Vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro's husband owned the office space DB used for his child porn and other sick porn.She used his rent money to finance her career.I personally know of some sorry ass law enforcement officers here in Tennessee that were allowing a sex offender to go on hurting children because he was also an informant giving them bigtime drug dealers.Some of these politicians and lawmen are just as sorry.I have no problem with one gangster killing another.There have been several people I would have loved to shoot.The reason the G betrayed Casso was because during his 302's they realized that at some point some people are too ruthless and too cold to put on the stand.They stated he had no joy in his eyes just pure scheming
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia

I gotta ask you Tony, do you have a special dislike for me or something? Or are you related to Casso per se? Because I just explained my position and feelings on Casso. You seem like your very pumped up about defending Casso, or attempting to insult me. Why?


You've made how many webpages glorifying the lives of Mafia people, but somehow Casso is a special piece of shit? GTFO man come on. Go back to posting your pages, remember 99% of them were 100% pieces of shit, and stop pretending like one was worse than the others.

Casso is a huge piece of shit but Im tired of him getting special fuck you treatment like he was different. Someone with your knowledge of the mafia should know that and be above shitposting trash talk about a guy who just died that we both know you only had the guts to say because he wasn't in front of you.

Additionally, he is completely different from Manson. Manson had others do his dirty work, and on innocents. Casso only wacked people in the life, as far as I know, and he at least did it himself.

Gaspipe was a piece of shit murdering rat but so were almost all of them.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Corallo NEVER gave Amuso and Casso the hierarchy. They stole it. And there was nobody who challenged them. It quickly turned bad and the was the beginning of the end.



you wouldn't know your ass from a hole in the ground ffs
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by MemphisMafia
The reason the G betrayed Casso was because during his 302's they realized that at some point some people are too ruthless and too cold to put on the stand.They stated he had no joy in his eyes just pure scheming


do you also believe Epstein suicided? I mean since you believe the government???

Casso was betrayed because his testimony didnt line up with Sammy the Rat's, a guy who probably killed more people than shitpipe. Thats it. The government didnt want to have to let Gotti out.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia

History has proven that the guys who stuck to running their bookmaking and shy books (and other schemes) and stayed away from violence mostly died in their own beds.



Tell that to Ruby Stein or Hal Smith. Oh wait you can't because they both got wacked.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Was it Anthony Casso who ordered the murders of civilians Robert Kubecka and Daniel Barstow? No. I believe it was Salvatore Avellino who ordered it and delegated the work to Anthony Baratta. Thomas Ricciardi was a soldier in the New Jersey faction under Michael Taccetta. He beat a civilian to death with a golf club because they wanted a piece of his company. Casso's mentor, Chris Furnari, raped a 16 year old girl for fuck sake. These are all powerful guys in the one family and you're acting like Casso was some kind of anomaly or something.

A former consigliere of the Colombo Crime Family (Carmine Sessa) killed the girlfriend of another former consigliere of the same family (Alphonse Persico).

Sammy Gravano killed a kid.

They're not above killing civilians, women, children, feds like Everett Hatcher. And the only reason they don't "take pleasure in killing" now is because of increased surveillance that makes it borderline impossible to get away with it.

I don't doubt some of them are fun to be around and great guys to people they like but I don't see much of what that has to do with anything. Even the worst criminals in earth have some people who've liked them at one point or other - look at Ted Bundy.

And so what if they're "just a bookie". You don't get to be a part of the mafia unless you're willing to get your hands dirty. And they're all knowingly subordinate to people who commit much worse acts and are happy to play their part in the decay of society's fabric.


a much nicer and more thorough response than I put together, A+
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia


And yes, the end result was that the Lucchese crew suffered badly from this mismanagement. Its 30 years later and they still haven't recovered. IMO they never will




Well then Mr. Mafia expert why dont you tell us all which family is prospering under leadership they have had for the last 30 years?
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by ItalianIrishMix
I thought about this the other day.

Corallo chose him and Vic either because he knew he would get a bigger kick up in jail OR, he knew they would whack Luongo regardless.


In truth, I believed they seized power. Corallo (from East Harlem) did NOT promote them. Christy Ticker did. They were not Corallo and Santoro's choice for boss. Buddy Luongo was. But they clipped Luongo and seized power. And Furnari backed their play with Corallo.

I also don't believe Corallo picked them. I could be wrong. It's said Tony Ducks and Tom Mix had a beef during the Commission trial. He could have stuck it to Mix by tapping the Brooklyn faction but personally I think Tony would have gave it to the Long Island guys before the Brooklyn guys. Vic and Gas just whacked out or intimidated their strongest rivals and took over.


the level of shittalking by keyboard warriors about Amuso being made boss....you know the same fucking Amuso who has been boss since what...87? Other than Jr. hes one of the longest serving bosses of all time. Tony Ducks picked a strong fucking boss and Casso was the strongest in his family so thats why he went to him first. This is why Gigante gave the Gotti hit to Casso and his team, because they were strong. The level of shit talking that you people do based on some fucking hack writer or some fucking rat is staggering.

Meanwhile....half the other families bosses turned informant, and Amuso is still boss, and only Gaspipe ratted.

Looks like your the biggest keyboard warrior here. WTF do you know? You overhear some gossip while blowing an associate under a desk in 92? Those 2 morons destroyed the family. Turned a once stable family into a war torn factional shit show.
Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by MightyDR
I think we need to keep in mind that we know Amuso and Casso were nuts now, after they've killed a bunch of people and messed up the family. But in the mid 80s Amuso was a capable worker, earner, captain for 5 years and came up under the consigliere, Christy Tick. Seems like a good choice for a boss.

I don't trust anything Casso said, but I don't think a guy who brags about burying someone alive or shooting someone 15 times would have any shame saying "they made Luongo the boss, we didn't like it, so we took him out".


I agree on your second part, but on the trusting of Casso....Im no Casso fan, and there are clearly parts of his book that are lies, but in general, he doesn't come off any different to me than any of the other people deep in the life.

People are talking about a mafia guy who went against some of the most badass motherfuckers to ever be in the mafia, and he didnt lose, and they think he is just talking shit and telling stories? That seems like a stretch to me.

I guess its possible, I definitely got that sense when he talked about his wife etc and "reforming" but when it came to mafia stuff...he seemed very cold and matter of fact. He didnt seem like a liar to me, on those parts. Which parts did you think he was full of shit on?




Posted By: TonyBombassolo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb

Looks like your the biggest keyboard warrior here. WTF do you know? You overhear some gossip while blowing an associate under a desk in 92? Those 2 morons destroyed the family. Turned a once stable family into a war torn factional shit show.


You spouted a bunch of shit that goes against what the actual people involved have all said, but somehow you know?

LOL every family had that problem and every family got destroyed around that time for a variety of reasons mostly involving rats and/or wires

Again, Vic is the current longest serving boss of any family, that isnt stability?

Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by NYMafia

I gotta ask you Tony, do you have a special dislike for me or something? Or are you related to Casso per se? Because I just explained my position and feelings on Casso. You seem like your very pumped up about defending Casso, or attempting to insult me. Why?


You've made how many webpages glorifying the lives of Mafia people, but somehow Casso is a special piece of shit? GTFO man come on. Go back to posting your pages, remember 99% of them were 100% pieces of shit, and stop pretending like one was worse than the others.

Casso is a huge piece of shit but Im tired of him getting special fuck you treatment like he was different. Someone with your knowledge of the mafia should know that and be above shitposting trash talk about a guy who just died that we both know you only had the guts to say because he wasn't in front of you.

Additionally, he is completely different from Manson. Manson had others do his dirty work, and on innocents. Casso only wacked people in the life, as far as I know, and he at least did it himself.

Gaspipe was a piece of shit murdering rat but so were almost all of them.

I don't make web pages princess. You sound like that pathetic internet poster that claimed to be the bastard son of Gaspipe. Who were you with? You part of Mike Franzese internet crew. Paying $5.99 a month to join doesn't make you a half a wiseguy buddy sorry.
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 10:33 AM

Torture, murder and deceit – The life and death of Lucchese Mafia family leader Anthony “Gaspipe” Casso http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...-the-life-and-death-of-lucchese-mafia-fa
Posted By: Madonn

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:03 PM

Anthony Casso was brutal, violent and a serial killer but can you blame him? He was in the Mafia that's how you get respect by being violent and dangerous. You want that crazy reputation in order for people to respect you. Respect equals fear and he learnt that early in his life in order to control people and get his way.


Rest in peace.
Posted By: Lenox

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 02:24 PM

He wasnt neccessarily respected because he was brutal, that means the mob respected jeffrey domner. He was a big earner and he was actually smart. But yes, he was brutal and lacked compassion.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 08:54 PM

Franzese has people paying $6 a month to be in his presence ?? Lol

Whoever coined that phrase ''There's a sucker born every minute'' was a genius, and don't think for minuite that Franzese doesn't think that of the suckers who are paying...Like Gianni Russo said, can you see Carlo Gambino doing YouTube videos ??
Posted By: Madonn

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lenox
He wasnt neccessarily respected because he was brutal, that means the mob respected jeffrey domner. He was a big earner and he was actually smart. But yes, he was brutal and lacked compassion.


Gaspipe is a fucking boss end of the fucking story. It's not wrong to kill people. Some people deserve to die. I wish I was born in the 1920s and in the right place, I'd be in the cosa nostra all the way.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/18/20 09:58 PM

Most of the made members were evil people. A lot were rapists and murders. And they grew up in terrible situations with abusive or absent parents that turned them into monsters.. Castellano and his people pimped out children as sex slaves. There’s no honor in that....Castellano wanted to break up the gotti crew for drugs while him and his people dealt heroin..Pasty Conte.,Nino Gaggi etc
Freddy Dinome was a nice guy who couldn’t read so his kids werent allowed to read either..but according to guys in the street he was a great Guy...Gotti was a wonderful father yet missed countless birthdays and holidays because the life was important than his children..Even though all the old timers said never have kids...you couldn’t survive on the street with a conscience...Everyone here should really think about if you would really cop a sneak and murder a family member..would you murder and dismember your uncle or brother or cousin????? Your talking about guys who would steal 500 bucks outta your wallet and smile in your face and pretend to be your friend
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/19/20 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Madonn
Originally Posted by Lenox
He wasnt neccessarily respected because he was brutal, that means the mob respected jeffrey domner. He was a big earner and he was actually smart. But yes, he was brutal and lacked compassion.


Gaspipe is a fucking boss end of the fucking story. It's not wrong to kill people. Some people deserve to die. I wish I was born in the 1920s and in the right place, I'd be in the cosa nostra all the way.

You still probably live with your parents, who are your kidding?
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/19/20 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo
Originally Posted by MightyDR
I think we need to keep in mind that we know Amuso and Casso were nuts now, after they've killed a bunch of people and messed up the family. But in the mid 80s Amuso was a capable worker, earner, captain for 5 years and came up under the consigliere, Christy Tick. Seems like a good choice for a boss.

I don't trust anything Casso said, but I don't think a guy who brags about burying someone alive or shooting someone 15 times would have any shame saying "they made Luongo the boss, we didn't like it, so we took him out".


I agree on your second part, but on the trusting of Casso....Im no Casso fan, and there are clearly parts of his book that are lies, but in general, he doesn't come off any different to me than any of the other people deep in the life.

People are talking about a mafia guy who went against some of the most badass motherfuckers to ever be in the mafia, and he didnt lose, and they think he is just talking shit and telling stories? That seems like a stretch to me.

I guess its possible, I definitely got that sense when he talked about his wife etc and "reforming" but when it came to mafia stuff...he seemed very cold and matter of fact. He didnt seem like a liar to me, on those parts. Which parts did you think he was full of shit on?


Things like saying the families courted him and he got to decide which family he was made into and him changing his story about the mafia cops to suit his interests ruin his credibility for me. He obviously lived a wild life, but seems like one of those people who just can't help lying and scheming.
Posted By: WhackWhack

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 12/19/20 10:41 PM

I don't know...how many mafioso had the police connections like Casso had? Look at his house. Even after the commission case Casso and Amuso were making money hand over fist. Casso wore a pinky ring that cost more then most people make in a year if not much more then that. Factor in the money he earned, police connections that few mafioso had and how violent he was and Casso was a mafia "superstar".

I just don't understand why Christy Tick was pushing Casso so hard to become boss. Corallo should have never relinquished the title, Amuso definitely didn't.


Imagine where the Luccheses would be if Corallo stayed boss until 2000 and chose his own street boss/UB/consigliere etc...without the Casso and Amuso reign the Luccheses likely are #2 today.
Maybe Ducks didn't think he'd live until 2000. But he did.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 08/06/23 03:52 PM

Downfall of untouchable gangster who killed 36 and called Mafia 'better than Hollywood'
Anthony Casso was once the underboss of New York's Lucchese crime family, and participated in 36 murders during his climb to the top, before he turned FBI informant

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/us-news/downfall-untouchable-gangster-who-killed-30611945
Posted By: thekidfromthesouth

Re: Anthony Casso has died - 08/06/23 04:22 PM

Gaspipe was the biggest piece of crap ever, he kept records on felow mobstees who he order murder from the start,he ratted on Vic he believe on himself look out only for himself im glad hes dead and suffer with every breath he died like a roach good for everyone.
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