Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel

I don't think I've seen any mention of this on here. It's him telling random short stories.

https://youtu.be/wHxes65H7qE

some of its interesting. hes found a nitche. i liked the one about willy boy. he should just give his story on any random made guy. i wonder if he had any dealing with massino 77 to 82. he gives everyone there props i see. he doesnt even bad moouth gotti. just keeps saying how his ego brought them all down

He comes across as a nice guy, not a killer which is strange. That said, i enjoy it alot. Its the complete opposite of Alite’s who does nothing but talk bad about Gotti JR and how much of a gangster he was. Gravano was in a totally different league.

Just watch the one of willy boy. Hes like eddie lino and his brother in law fat sal. There stone cold gangsters huge heroin guys. Loyal to john. He never once bad mouths them or even john. How he broke his promise to willy boy was fucked up. How Sammy's says john told him to mind his fucking business. When sammy chirped john the colombos are talking shit about willy boy. He comes across as not so resentful like alite n them. He only mentions gottis ego.

Carlo Gambino is rolling in his grave knowing his picture is on display while this rat bastard does anything he can to make a few crumbs.

Otherwise not a bad show.

Sammy was always a nice guy. I think if he hadn't ratted, he couldve become boss

He's taking requests for stories to tell, what would you guys like to hear?

I live in Phoenix so I'd like to hear his impression of the area when he moved here and anything related to that.

any interaction with the perisco family for the brief window they were on the street well sammy was made in the gambinos. did he work with little aliie in the 70tys early 80tys. there in the same hood there both made

Real ones don't puff their chest and run their mouths as much. Funny how it works that way.

In a way, a part of me feels bad for the guy. He mentions he had dyslexia and was teased and made fun of as a kid. I can relate to that on a personal level . When you have an issue that you cant change such as dyslexia or something else that is related to any kind of learning disability, it can have an indelible affect on you. When you are a young child and teased and rejected, you cant rationalize. I was also left back and it can have a huge impact later in life, it certainly did for me. Everyone gets teased or faces rejection at one time or another but when its almost constant and you are singled out and humiliated, its a recipe for disaster, especially when its due to a disability. I hid it well but had a horrible time in school, especially high school. I came across as very normal but i was an absolute mess on the inside. Not to make excuses but thats a major reason i turned to crime, it was something i thought I was good at and it gave me instant gratification, almost a high. It also gave me some semblence of self worth. Im totally changed and legit now but i still have issues relating to people and also have a tough time feeling as if i belong, its a fucked up feeling. Thats why its so important to identify social issues or any other issues a child may have early on and intervene immediately. When I was young teachers and schools would just let you fall through the cracks. I sometimes look back and almost feel as if i was robbed of a childhood in a way. That said, i had great parents and came from a working class family. In a way, that experience gave me a big chip on my shoulder and i now use it to my advantage, i am very successful and did it all on my own. Having a great father helped despite putting both my parents through the ringer with my arrests. I was also a big steroid user by the way.
Sorry for the rant but his video where he desribed his dyslexia and being left back in school really struck a chord.
As they say, life goes on with or without you.

You should have written this on a piece of paper first, then shot yourself in your fucking face. Although you would have spelled everything backwards anyway.

cold blooded

Hey Ravens410 go fuck your mother. That was unnecessary.

I would tell you to do the same but it sounds like Lenox already does.

Congrats Lenox on overcoming and becoming a success. I'm sure your family is proud of you

Ditto that bigtime....totally uncalled 4...sounds like Raven is another troll no longer needed on this site..Fuck him...

I’ll just never understand some of these guys, better yet this fucked up world we live in. Doesn’t anybody ever know how to just shut their mouth anymore? Wtf happened to “if you don’t have nothing nice to say shut your mouth”. Completely and completely unnecessary some of the shit some guys say. It’s why I stopped posting on Black Hand because some of those guys over there act like they are real gangsters and they ain’t. One day they will meet a real gangster and it will be curtains.

Well said my old cell mate.....

I just watched Sammy for president.

It's pretty bad when a mafia hitman/mass murderer is more likeable and seems more honest than 99% of our politicians.

I actually agree with Raven. These guys will make up any excuse to explain why they went into the life and we're implicit in 19 murders. Gotti included. Gotti because he was poor, Gravano(middle class family) because he was dyslexic. Who wasnt picked on in school at some point? The difference is Gotti did it and accepted the consequences. Sammy did it then played victim again. Did 5 years for a life of crime, gets out with a clean slate and less than 3 years later he's caught up in a huge ecstasy ring which he involved his wife, daughter, and son in. Tried to play victim and weasel his way out again but the Feds cut ties. Does 20 years almost, gets out, starts making YT videos and an upcoming podcasts about what a tough guy he was. Trying to get Frankie Loc out or jail because he feels guilty because h buried the guy when Frankie never did shit wrong to him and never said shit on no tapes. Sammy used people up, then had them killed to glom their money. It started when he was in his early 20s with the beef with the Speros in the Colombo Family. Isn't it funny how multiple guys in more than one family accuse Gravano of being greedy and skimming like Matty Gambino and Ralph Spero? And then that tale he spun about Fiala. He gets some wealth and gets paranoid. Taking out guys(not himself but using Joe Paruta and Louie Milito becaus they're the real hitters) . Tries to fuck over DiBono but Castellano squashed the beef. Uses the Gotti/Castellano beef to his advantage after that. Soon as Castellano is dead he's made Capo. That's not enough. He makes up the shit about DB then later blames it on Ange in his 302s and his book(what's he gonna say by then he was dead). Takes over 282. He makes it sound as if John was off his rocker when he complained about sammy having green eyes but John saw exactly what Sammy was doing. With DB(282) with Milito (Gem Steel) with DiBono (construction/WTC). I just wish John had made sammy take the dirt nap in early 88. The family would have been better off.

The channel is great, it’s what a lot of members here were asking for and it’s now delivered...there’s a podcast on the way as well soon..

Some people are never happy when I look at the way the conversation above has degenerated into....ffs people!

This latest podcast kicking off about the bond is fucking crazy.....we’ve NEVER heard anything like this first hand...

Interesting how he confirms guys from all families would normally just hang around socially and be involved in stuff day to day...

What's amazing about it? That's been know since the 60s.

What's amazing about it? That's been know since the 60s.
All these stories are from his book.

I find it interesting to hear it first hand though

Great channel. He is very good at recounting his stories. What I find particularly interesting is how he implies the Gambino’s were so much more sophisticated than the Colombo’s at that time. The Colombo’s were knee deep into violent crime whereas the Gambino’s ( for the most part) were involved with unions and legitimate business infiltration, similar to the Genovese.

Personally, I think he should have gotten life without parole from the first case. I don't disagree with anything you say about sammy, I don't have that level of knowledge. I'm no fan and it makes me a little sick to my stomach that I find him likeable on youtube.

But your last sentence, the family would have been better off. Fuck the family in the fucking ass! They're the goddamned mafia.

I didn't say I'm for the family being better off. Just pointing out their mistakes. That being said I bet ya Sammy never mentions the innocent 16 year old Alan Kaiser he killed. He won't brag about that one in guessing. Milito did all the dirty work for him. And he had others whack Milito in the end.

Another article I read says sammy was the driver. Either way, sickening. If these people don't make your stomach turn, nothing will.

https://www.silive.com/news/2019/10...e-bull-victim-lash-out-at-interview.html

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Blaming you being a serial killer due to untreated dyslexia is behind infuriating and I could not imagine being related to one of his victims and hearing that. Then, people on here like Lenox sympathies with him. Just shut the fuck up.

sure go ahead and give Sammy the murdering rat your $

if you want honest life content from a non-rat try Franzese, a lot better than Alite the rat or Gravano the rat

what is this a therapy session?

this is a mafia discussion, not a "oh woe is me my life is so hard just like Sammy the Rat's"

the two of you find a self help group and pat each other on the ass

Exactly. The funniest part of it is the ‘threatening’ messages I got from these two. This isn’t a dr. Phil therapy board.

On this podcast teaser he says Gotti called him to a one on one and told him to kill Gigante because they now knew he was behind the Deccico bombing.Gravano says he had planned out the hit and had all the guys picked for their roles.He says he had whispered in Deccico's coffin that he would avenge his killing and himself kill all involved.I don't know I have read many say Gotti was scared of this guy or that guy.Gotti wasn't afraid of no one.Took out Castellano the way he did and there is no doubt Gravano is telling the truth here so they were gonna take out the Chin.Gotti had the biggest brass balls of them all.This podcast is going to be good.gravano was the real deal

I watched that today. First time I've heard him mention it. Feds didn't put that in his 302s. Sounds like bullshit to me. His strategy was to simply drive by the triangle, have a guy hop out with an Uzi and spray Gigante. Ooooohhhhhkkkkaaaayyyy?!!!!!;;!

Watching these videos he puts out I'm now convinced that Sammy is more egotistical and narcissistic than John Gotti himself.

Although I agree that it does sound like Samny is trying to suddenly add things to make the story even more “entertaining” BUT I don’t think any mobster is as egotistical as Gotti 😂. I mean listening to his jailhouse tapes is hilarious how much he kisses his own ass. Saying things like people would cry In happiness just yo be able to see him in jail or that being a Gotti is “an honor”

Most mob bosses are narcissistic and sociopaths. I love sammy’s channel but he is a sociopath. They justify the murders and convince themselves it was the right thing to do. Mob guys can be very smart and cunning opposed to a gangbanger for example. Thats why mob guys are dangerous.
Gotti was in some ways created by the media. Also getting tens of thousands of fan mail while in jail certainly didnt hurt his ego. Certain people, and gotti was one of them, are born leaders, its an Xfactor that only certain people have. You dont become boss of the largest crime family in America and boss of a bunch of killers for being stupid.
Getting back to Sammy, i firmly believe he concoted stories about certain guys becoming a threat just to take their money. Gotti wasnt like that.

I give credit to Gotti for one thing he did seem to have a way to get guys to go along with him. However r he certainly wasn’t a great leader or anything IMO. If you look at his mob career as a whole yes he did become boss so that’s a huge accomplishment in that world But he had a lot of fuck ups along the way and certainly more after he became boss. I could list all of them but it would be a very long post 😂. I think most agree Frank Decicco would have been the better choice. I still think as a mobster I think Sammy was the better of the two. He was obviously a much better earner than Gotti. He also stayed away from the limelight. He wasn’t a degenerate gambler or have the whole heroin operation like Gotti crew did. Now don’t misunderstand me I think Danny is a piece of shot and should probably still be in jail. But if this was the 1980’s and you asked me who was way a mobster should be if the two I would say Sammy every day of the week twice on Sunday

Its a tough one. Gotti was able to get the backing of the whole family after killing Castellano in an unsanctioned hit. He was only 45 years old.
Gotti had money coming in from other rackets, not just heroin. He also had solid relationships with guys in other families. I do think he had some idea of how contruction and unions worked.

I disagree. Gotti wasn’t a top earner like Sammy. He didn’t know much or have anything to do with construction or white collar rackets which were much more profitable. He was a hijacker and into the strong arm rackets along with the heroin dealing. Also the big reason the crew had to resort to heroin dealing is because Gotti pissed away their profits gambling. This was confirmed by Angelo and Gene Gotti on wiretaps

I agree on some of that ( most). I just dont think sammy had the personality to be be a boss. Gotti was a well known degenerate gambler before he was made boss, everyone knew it but they still made him boss anyway. Thats because he had strong leadership ability. Having great leadership skills doesnt mean you will use them correctly. He definitely had them though. People wanted to be around him. Even old timers liked him.

I think they would have back Decicco as boss too. He was probably more well respected.

Looking over The Gotti Tapes, Gotti himself said that the "best I ever did was go on a few hijackings" and that he never had much money. He was being modest, but it shows he was never a major earner. He also admits to not understanding some rackets and that he just takes Sammy's word for it. He tells a funny story about how Joe Piney was trying to explain a business deal to him, but Piney didn't really understand it either. So they were both discussing it, but neither of them understood what they were talking about. But like Lenox said, Gotti had an X factor that made people like him and follow him.

Back to the original topic though, this latest video is kinda disappointing. None of these guys are ever 100% honest, but Gravano didn't seem to be just making shit up. Now that's changed. FBI debriefings, testimony, interviews and an entire book and Gravano never mentioned Gotti ordering him to kill Chin. That would be a big deal that you wouldn't exclude.

thats funny about joe piney and gotti. he was a huge herion guy like all those guys in the 50tys and 60tys. not knowing about certain contstruction building terms must have befuddled them. but im sure they both got there cutt. both stone cold gangsters

yeah Reb,it could be he is making it up.I have read several Gambino books and several Gotti books and Underboss and never heard this before.But something about him telling this story he just seems so sincere,so genuine.i mean they (Gravano and Gotti) wereome serious killers it could be true.One thing I love listening to this guy amazing life he lived'

What made me suspicious of the story is the strategy to kill Chin. Roll up to the triangle social club, a guy with an Uzi gets out and just goes in blasting? Doesn't sound like a sound plan to me. Especially when he was known to wander the streets with 1 bodyguard at times.

Hahah Franzese is a rat too. A lying rat

Yeah good point.If you look at the Castellano hit it was pretty elaborate.They stationed this guy here,these backup shooters here,crash car there and on and on.A very strategic hit.Then just pulling up blasting at Gigante (the real head of the commission) in his own club.But if you think about it how else could you kill The Chin.He never went to Sparks or Tomassos.He never went more than a mile down the road his whole life.You would almost have to pull up on him and start shooting.It would really be a suicide mission.Like you said he always had killers around him.If you were to pull up at the triangle they may have gotten Gigante.But just like Columbo the men around Chin would surely have killed the hit team.He didnt even take money from his capos much less tell them where he would be going at a certain time.He only spoke with Baldy Dom,mangano,Mana just a few.So no capo could betray him like Deccico did Castellano.So you can't ambush.No way to pull it off the guy never went nowhere

Sammy may have told Gotti they should kill Gigante but in no way did they seriously discuss it. Think of all the planning that went into the Castellano hit.. He expects us to believe he would of killed Gigante in such a simplistic way knowing full well the fbi was always watching his club.
I dont buy it.

The best way to whack Chin would have been to set up on the townhouse he shared with Olympia Esposito or catch him when he wandered the streets with 1 bodyguard in his bathrobe. He did hold meetings at the Triangle Club at 3am, so if he was talking about hitting him there it would had to have been at one of those late night meetings.

Franzese took the witness stand !!

I agree

The first podcast is on youtube. Watching now...

I don’t know if I believe the story of Sammy trying to have Gigante whacked. First time I’ve ever heard of this..

He's just trying to save face because they never even made an attempt !!

He had to make up something thats not on tape ... the other stuff he has to say has been known for years . The next one will have to have more drama to keep it going.

Dam shame because they have a lot of air time doing this stuff and if his people would come on places like here and the Hand “ they would find out what people really want to know and Sammy has the answers he is just not a story teller and needs a pro to help him. Sammy was around for a lot of shit with big bosses and skippers he has the stories but nobody to get it done right so they will have to embellish many things to grab folks.

Podcast was pretty good. I liked that they got into what was said in the car with the agents after they arrested them at the Ravenite. My favorite part was when George Gabriel said a Gotti was Very confident he would hear the case but once Gabriel said “You know John, you really shouldn’t have talked so much in Mrs Cerelli’s apartment” Gotti immediately shut the hell up 😂

Gotti never had such good memory in his life until that moment He remembered every single word that came out his mouth. Castellano hit, Ragging on his no. #2, insight into the uppermost parts of their business. He must've been sick, I know I would've been

Yeah I know a Gotti wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed but he damn sure knew he was screwed then. As for the Gigante hit plan I’d say that was bullshit. Neither Gotti or Gravano would screw with the Chin or Casso. Let’s be honest they killed Decicco, Lino, and Boriello without retaliation

In your opinions, why didn't Gotti retaliate? Besides them being The West Side, it had to be more of a reason. The Gambinos were no small Bananas (no pun intended). And that poses another question:
Where the Gambinos more dangerous under Castellano or Gotti?

IMO Gotti was scared Of Casso and Chin. Can’t really blame him because Casso was crazy and Chin was shrewd, ruthless, and powerful

Gravano says in the podcast that gotti called it off when he found out he was being indicted.

Kind of hard to believe this is only coming out now, if it's true at all. It's be an easy thing to make up, there's nobody left to contradict him.

Does anyone else find it weird that netflix, hbo, History channel, etc etc didn't pick this up and put a big time production crew behind it?

He can't be pulling in any serious cash from youtube views. He says they spent two years getting this thing going. I wonder about one or both of the following...

1. Maybe he does not own the rights to Underboss, so that would ad extra costs to license his whole life story until that point? Or maybe he sold rights to some other movie production company or studio?

2. He's keeping everything under a tight leash so if he gets a new movie deal he gets to keep as much as possible? Maybe possible movie deals are worth far more than the tv studios?

No doubt he's thinking the public, Decicco's family and fellow mob guys think that we were weak because we never retaliated..Let me try and save some face !!

They could have still done the hit after they were convicted, but didn't !!

They took a shot at Casso but Ruggiero and Paradise fucked that hit up so they had to go into Cover Your Ass mode and say they went "Rogue". Kind of like Chin said Bobby Manna went "rogue" when that plot to kill the Gotti's was caught on tape. Lino was hit a month before Gotti was locked up and Boriello was hit afterwards. They thought Preston Geritano whacked Boriello. Idk what they thought about Lino. Shit Gaspipe had Patty Testa whacked out just to blame it on the Gambino's.

Pretty sure he doesn't own rights. He was paid $750k under the table because of the Son Of Sam law.

I think you're right on the rights. I haven't found anything about $750,000. This is what I found.

Son of Sam law is usually defeated in court. In this case peter Mass, the publisher, and two other plaintiffs sued and won the right to publish. I'd have to look again but I don't think sammy was a plaintiff.

After his bust in Phoenix families of his victims collected over $400,000 through civil cases because his money was no longer protected.

It's hard to decipher because journalism is dead and I'm sure a competent high school kid who gives a fuck about being factual could do a better job than 99% of our journalists have over the last 20 years.

Idk why the 750k popped in my head. I know peter maas paid him under the table for the initial book. I don't know what kind of deal they had on sales but I'm sure it was something. I remember his victims family were hell bent on getting the money from that book.

You'd be surprised the money you can make on YouTube. I had a small channel 8 years ago doing mob docs before I got 3 copyright strikes. I was earning $600 to $800 a month with only 2500 views a day. Small potatoes to the views big Youtubers get.

that makes sense

I can't believe something that high profile was done by a straight citizen with that amount of money. Do you have any links, or do you remember where that story first came about?

As I understand it, it's the publisher who pays the contract, but maybe they did something different.

Wow...Good for you bro...I can only imagine what these broads make going on there and shaking their asses !!

A couple of years ago a youtuber who does gaming said he earns about 1 buck per 500 views. Apparently it's getting worse, it's hard to get views and it's hard to monetize them. That's why many youtubers also have a Patreon. Many vids get demonetized by youtube for whatever reasons.

sammy was a nice guy ? he was killing all the guys that were loyal and loved him .. ask their families how nice he was .. good thing he flipped just like gas..or the body count would have been double..gotti killed only willie boy cause he was a rat..gotti protected everyone of his men to a fault..

You are correct

Who is the straight citizen you're talking about? Peter Maas? He wrote The Valachi Papers. That being said I'm sure the money didn't come out of his own pocket. It probably came from the publishing company.

Gotti made a mistake, he should have chopped off this dyslexic piece of shits head when
he had the chance, even better would have been before he had that sack of crap daughter.

He knew angle about gus furace sleeping with Gerry chillis daughter was interesting. He's saying the bonannos killed him more aless for that

Lol I see some shithead with another mob site is stealing Sammy's YouTube videos, thus stealing views and money from him.

Surprised Sammy's team hasn't had him shut down.

its decent enterttainment

A sit down between Sammy the bull and michael fransezr would be the best

There's no way that's not in the works.

How long before someone tracks down Massino to do a tell all interview like Sammy did before he started his own thing? Or Sal Vitale?

All these former tough guys becoming "Television Stars" and media darlings. IMO It's actually comical. Lol

Talk about the mob taking a downward spiral. Wow!

I agree. Everyone claims these guys are such savvy businesman but the only way they can make money is talking about their crimes.
I do like sammy’s podcast though and he did have some business acumen unlike that other idiot that constantly talks about hitting guys with baseball bats.

I kind of had similar experiences growing up. I never had dyslexia or anything like that, but I was constantly picked on and ridiculed in elementary and into junior high school, when I got bigger and stronger and could fight better my life got easier. But the damage was done to my self confidence.

The simple fact is, we'll never know if any of these guys could have been successful business men in the square world. They usually sound dumber than cavemen on wire taps. Ever hear the one of that guy under Demeo threatening joe dogs on the phone? Tony something I think.

Anyone who compares guys that literally have murder and extortion in their toolbox to regular people is an idiot.

Tommy Agro doing the shouting I think it was on that wiretap..

Eh, there definitely is still money on it. And Sammys channel is getting BIG. He joined less then 6 months ago and has 139 thousand subscribers.

One of the youtubers I watch regularly (End of Sentence) actually POSTED his youtube earnings on his page for the year. He made over 100 thousand for the year and at the time he posted that his subscriber amount was only like 30 thousand more then Sammys was. Honestly Gravano will make at least 50 grand his 1st year.

I'll admit Sammy is a great con-man. He actually convinced me to kinda like him. Don't get me wrong, I'm under no disillusion about who and what he is but simply put, we are all general interested (for whatever reason) in O.C.
The level he was at, the era and the people he dealt with makes him a hot commodity in that regard. From the standpoint of the principal of the life, being a informant is a no go. Period. From the standpoint of a research, I appreciate the firsthand knowledge. I hope he goes into some of the lesser known guys with his stories. Its the freaking Gambino Family for christ sake, so that automatically gonna be interesting.

Tommy Agro was under Joe Piney.

Correct Reb....

So Sammy' channel is a paid for channel?

I watched his stuff on you tube for free

YY would anyone pay? If it's in for free?

Mike Franzese has a channel now too?

Is that paid for as well?

Alite we know..

So much out there now...

IPenesse has his blog...

More stuff out now than ever.

Am I missing anything?

You don't have to pay. It's free on YT. They get money from ads. It's a system that used to be called Google AdSense. Advertisers pay the Youtuber to place ads on their channel. The more traffic you get, the more money you make. I was small time before I got copyright strikes making $20 a day which came out to $600 a month. Some guys with over 200k followers are making $200 a day

question guys. I heard the Sammy put out a brand new podcast episode, but I cannot find one.

What date was his last video released?

He already released podcast #1. He said podcast #2 will be released late january or early february.

here's the link for episode 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kVE1BuxCR0

He has a handful of YT videos but only 1 podcast so far. It's on YT but also at his podcast homepage. https://sammythebull.libsyn.com/episode-1

I think I asked wrong. I meant to say what is his latest YouTube video? I've listened to a whole bunch of them, but haven't seen him post for awhile already. Whats the date of his latest?

The latest video was about Jersey mobster John D’Amato being murdered after his girlfriend outed him as gay or bisexual

Thanks Crusher, I can't find it. would it be possible to post the direct link for me.

i watched it he has some points. they killed the guy over something a sidechick says. what if she was pissed about somethign and just made it up. john damto was a brooklyn guy i think.so the jersey guys probaly didnt like that

@ NYMafia



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqbgx3xv65o&t=3s

Thanks JC

Gravano's videos are by far the best and most believable..

I thought a couple of story's he told were nothing to be proud of, but he wouldn't have told it if it weren't true...

Gravano's also not a phony claiming to be a christian and ignoring his family...He seems to be a good family man !!

Just sub to the channel and turn on notifications. You'll get an alert everytime he posts a video. I've got alerts to all mob channel content so I don't miss them.

I might just do that. Thanks Colonel.

I have to agree. No fan of the guy and don't agree with what he did, but he's truthful.

How do you fact check an informant? Just curious...~LisaB

Sources in the street, tapes, other high-level informants, a lot of plea deals

So everything Gravano or other informants have said in their "stories" can be found in tapes, plea deals, etc.? Street sources wouldn't necessarily be reliable per se. I truly am curious about how someone would go about fact checking stories never heard before, exclusive or whatever.

I mean, I get if informant 1 says A and informant 2 says A then that would be "reliable" I guess...but what about the rest? Oops...forgot to add the ~LisaB

Actually, I should clarify my statement slightly.....is this "truthful" information from tapes and plea deals publicly available to fact check? Or are they under seal? Plea deals/agrements from informants or plea deals of defendants? Just trying to understand.

There is really no way 100%. You have to take their info, Feds, reporters victims etc. Look at the whole picture then come to your own logical conclusion. At best you might have 80% of the real story.

By how the story's are told...If you say I'm a christian, and leave my 102 year old father to die alone 3,000 miles away in a nursing home and blow his funeral, you know he's phony...If a guy admits wanting to see another guy's joint, that's probably true

The biggest fraud that Franzese pulls is he only went in to the life to help his father...He saw easy money more then long classes....Anybody who believes differently is an idiot..Why didn't he help his father when he 102 years old ?? Didn't do shit for him !!

He couldn't go to the funeral. There would of been many made guys, someone would of said something to him, and there would of been a fight.

Sammy's got a new video out talking about trying to whack Corky Vastola. The DeCavs asked for help. He was gonna use this guy Barry who was under the Genovese but the Chin wouldn't let him use them because he objected.to them making Vastola in the first place.

corky did alot of time. think he went in 89 till 99. a decade isnt easy. all the guys gunning for him ended up flipping isnt that telling. like that. think hes still alive

Barry Nichols...John Riggi and Chin Gigante had beef cause of the laborers union,that’s why they wouldn’t let they’re people do the hit....John riggi and his people were beefing w Mike Lorello,Frankie Lupo and Jimmy from Elizabeth Street

You believe that ??

I thought he didn't hurt anybody..So what's to worry about ??

Jim is right about Mike not going. Sonny was stand up and in good standing.àll his life. His sons weren't. Sonny lived as a Wiseguy and he died a Wiseguy. Cosa Nostra cam first to him

Interesting about Corky. Sammy says the DeCalvacante’s reached out to him because they were worried or threatened by him so Sammy approached Gotti about it. The feds say it was Gotti himself that wanted to kill Corky because they were locked up together and Corky was “ acting suspicious and came across as possibly cooperating. That certainly wasnt true. Either way Corky ( obviously a stand up guy) would of been killed for no reason.

Good info Louie

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John Pennisi mentions Barry in his podcast. He mentions a meeting with the west side in coney island.

You won’t get a better YouTube channel with first hand experiences of organised crime right now, he’s just dropped his memories on Roy demeo...

People were screaming out for this exact thing here for years - Sammy the Bull talking like this - it happens, and I can’t believe some people are now questioning either how good it is, or how can we prove what he’s saying etc etc....ffs, just enjoy it for what it is...true crime recollections from a guy that was there..

This isn’t physics we’re dealing with where it’s a binary yes/no answer to every story you’ve ever heard...the guy obviously isn’t a bullshitter.

I think we are lucky (as OC interested people) to have this information directly from him. It’s never happened before...

A lot of these stories are in Gravanos FBI 302s...

The Demeo story about the old people was in Gravano’s book. Other than that he didn’t mention anything we didn’t already know. Although I did laugh when he said Roy asked him to work out in the club while their captains were talking business

Loving his channel, realy enjoyable. Feels totally bullshit free as well. How sincere he sounded on how weary he was of Demeo.

If you had told me even a year ago this would be happening, I would’ve thought you were crazy...

People get used to good things very quickly, then start to disregard them...human nature

That story about Demeo and his crew picking random guys off the street to kill and dismember them just to "keep the crew sharp" really took me aback. What a scumbag

That was shocking

There was also a story in Albert Demeo’s book that the crew went on a hunting trip upstate and as they were driving just shot a bunch of cows so yeah they they seemed to enjoy killing anything

I think that was the twins with a full auto and roy had to pay off the farmer who owned the cows. One of the feds said that Castellano had nothing to worry about with Demeo ratting. They would never had made a deal with someone that sick. Fast forward six years and they give Gravano the deal of a lifetime. 20 vs 200 is still 20 more people that should be killed. The feds make up their own rules. The justice f system needs reform. Eye for an eye shit, public executions!

1 thing i caught in gravanos new demeo video was when him in demeo where in jimmy browns club talking about the weights sammy says jimmy brown was a serious capo a heavy guy thats a 180 from all the personal shit sammy was talking about him in his book he wrote in 1996. he was talking alot of shit about jimmy brown more then anyone else in that book. i found out threw reading in the last few years jimmy brown was full boat going to kill sammy whole crew after he flipped and only gooti sr, stopped him so im guessing that all got back to sammy from informants or agents so he talked all that shit in the book about him. jimmy brown also went to gotti and gotti sided with brown when sammy was trying to get into his garbage racket

Gravano didn't praise Jimmy Brown, he said he was a serious captain...which is the truth

I've read sammy's book, all his 302 and everything in between. So far his YT vids are just regurgitating old stories with maybe a few tidbits extra. He's not as bad as Franzese who only speaks in generalities. But he's not giving us those gold nuggets we crave. We need an experienced mob buff asking him questions.

He puts the Alite and Franzese to shame. They should pack up and go home. Franzese is critiquing mob movies and all his religious bs. Best bumper sticker ever. Born right the first time. And Alite the international gangster with his suits and cigars.

Sammy's definitely the best storyteller out of the three. Franzese is a good speaker, but he doesn't know how to craft an interesting story and he barely provides anything.
Alite is just painful and even if he used to be a legit street guy in his videos comes across as a local wannabe actor who wants to get roles in B-grade low budget gangster flicks. He provides even less than Franzese does and the fact that he cliqued up with a wife-beating junkie bum like Borrello tells you all you need to know.

Anyone know if he has discussed the details of how he lent the Bonannos usage of his club for the Three capo murders?

I haven’t listened to all of them yet and his topic for each video is vague

@ItalianIrishMix. No not yet that I’m aware of. Most of the stories have been from his book although he goes into a bit more detail on them.

I agree...Gravano is by far the best of them and the only one I subscribe too...Every video of his is intriguing...You almost know what Franzese is gonna say every video...He was the biggest money maker, he only got involved because of his father, his brother's a junkie, and of course, trying constantly to convince people he's not a rat, which a lot of suckers believe !!

Which one does he talks about the big Paul hit?

Yep, that's Franzese's content in a nutshell.

The DJ Vlad interviews with Franzese are the absolute worst though. That Vlad guy is so clueless, it's comical. Almost like he's doing it on purpose.
"So a captain is above a capo, right?" Lol gtfo

Lol...What a great job of doing research before an interview !!

Does anyone really believe that? These guys were evil enough without needing to make up stories like that.

I don't know if its true or not but that ex fbi agent, Ruffles said Demeo killed a lot of innocent people !!

Another good video from Gravano today...

Even though it can be argued that he wasn't made when that Westchester scam went down...Gambino was still alive then, no ?? Gravano wasn't made till Castelanno was boss, right ??

Anyway's, its probably 90% accurate and again, more intriguing and a different story every day then a Franzese..

Btw, even if Fratianno was a stool pigeon, he's one of the best interviews there was...Just like you are Sammy

Carlo died in October. Sammy was made after that in 76. Theater didn't go bankrupt until 77 so it's possible

The trial for the Westchester Premier Theater was in late 78. Fratianno only had a year run as acting Boss. It's possible.