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What hit encompassed the most planning and detail?

Posted By: Galassi70

What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 12:07 AM

I think most of us can name any number of mob hits that
Capture our intrest and research.
But which mob hit whether on a big scale or small scale
In your opinion took the most precise planning and organization and
Execution from start to finish?
Too many to name for me but off the top of my.head Im
Going to.go.with the Bonnano 3 Captains hit
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Galassi70
I think most of us can name any number of mob hits that
Capture our intrest and research.
But which mob hit whether on a big scale or small scale
In your opinion took the most precise planning and organization and
Execution from start to finish?
Too many to name for me but off the top of my.head Im
Going to.go.with the Bonnano 3 Captains hit


I think that just the fact that the 3 captains hit was a triple-homicide takes the cake. I'd have to agree with you on that.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
[quote=Galassi70]I think most of us can name any number of mob hits that
Capture our intrest and research.
But which mob hit whether on a big scale or small scale
In your opinion took the most precise planning and organization and
Execution from start to finish?
Too many to name for me but off the top of my.head Im
Going to.go.with the Bonnano 3 Captains hit


I think that just the fact that the 3 captains hit was a triple-homicide takes the cake. I'd have to agree with you on that, Not to mention all the guys who were involved in setting it up and participating in the actual killing.
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 12:20 AM

I think the Galante hit was a pretty complex hit. In broad daylight in the middle of the summer they had to go through the restaurant and kill 3 guys. Granted Bonaventre and Amato were in on it but still .
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by JCrusher
I think the Galante hit was a pretty complex hit. In broad daylight in the middle of the summer they had to go through the restaurant and kill 3 guys. Granted Bonaventre and Amato were in on it but still .


Agreed Galante, Castellano and Bilotti for that matter too. Live in the middle of rush hour in Midtown Manhattan....Thats fucking brazen! Over a dozen guys + extra conspirators also. Both big hits
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 02:34 AM

I got to go with the St. Valentine Day Massacre. That took planning and it wiped out Morans top lieutenants in his gang, made Capone organization the only powerful player in town and expanded their operations.
Posted By: BarrettM

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 02:53 AM

Didn't Chicago in the Nitti/Ricca era kill someone in a bowling alley and then leave a creepy poem on the corpse, sort of taking credit? I believe the new regime offed Jack McGurn this way. It struck me that it was more of something you would see on Criminal Minds than a mob hit.

Here it is. "The killers tossed a Valentine card with this ironically prophetic poem near to his body: "You've lost your job, you've lost your dough, Your jewels and cars and handsome houses, But things could still be worse you know... At least you haven't lost your trousers!"

Very unsettling. I would not want to operate in Outfit territory during their peak years. Too many corpses. Killers were very dedicated!
Posted By: Njein

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 03:10 AM

What about the Anastasia hit? Another hit in Midtown Manhattan, but to kill the former head of Murder Inc in broad daylight seems quite brazen.
Posted By: Fleming_Ave

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by Njein
What about the Anastasia hit? Another hit in Midtown Manhattan, but to kill the former head of Murder Inc in broad daylight seems quite brazen.


I agree, it seems very planned, the way they caught him in the barber's chair.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 10:04 AM

Also the Joe Colombo hit with the killer disguised as journalist and the bodyguards that suddently whacked the shooter. Was an inside job.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 10:43 AM

Demeo. Who knows who else turned down the hit aside from Gotti. Nino and the twins played him well enough to lure him away from his daughter's birthday party. Regarding his hit. Do you guys think Demeo was done looking over his back and just said fuck it I'll go meet these guys and get it over with. With all the heat on him from law enforcement and Castellano he should have seen the writing on the wall. Similar to the Sonny Black scenario, if that was Demeo's mindset.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Also the Joe Colombo hit with the killer disguised as journalist and the bodyguards that suddently whacked the shooter. Was an inside job.


Furio, you're completely correct. I forgot about the Colombo hit. In truth that was probably the most well orchestrated hit on a mobster in the mobs history (except that IMO it wasn't the mob at all but the G). Highly sophisticated hit. So much so that it even defy's logic that it could be a mob hit!

It had a planning more reminiscent of the hit on JFK, RK, of MLK..... not an underworld execution.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 01:02 PM

The JFK Assassinate lol
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
The JFK Assassinate lol


If you compare the style of the Colombo hit against any of those other "hits" they are eerily similar. And thats no joke. There has NEVER been a mob hit like that. period!
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
The JFK Assassinate lol


If you compare the style of the Colombo hit against any of those other "hits" they are eerily similar. And thats no joke. There has NEVER been a mob hit like that. period!


Fair Enough!! I hate to ask, but would you put Frank Cali in the same weirdo class, as Colombo or JFK, RFK, MLK, etc.??
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
The JFK Assassinate lol


If you compare the style of the Colombo hit against any of those other "hits" they are eerily similar. And thats no joke. There has NEVER been a mob hit like that. period!


Fair Enough!! I hate to ask, but would you put Frank Cali in the same weirdo class, as Colombo or JFK, RFK, MLK, etc.??


Of course not. The Cali hit, if you could even call it that, lol, had zero preparedness or sophistication. You wanna compare this deranged jerkoff "kid" pulling a handgun on a lonely street to shoot Cali, with the thousands of people witnessing a shooting against a mob boss (on camera no less), in clear daylight where both the shooter is immediately shot by persons unknown. The gun, camera, and his black female accomplice, etc., vanishing in thin air? And nobody to this day (nearly 50 years later knowing who pulled the trigger on J.Johnson, or who was TRULY behind the Colombo hit with Cali?

Completely different circumstances. And THAT is the beauty of it all. Complete bedlam and confusion. The G is well known for that. The Mob is not!
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
The JFK Assassinate lol


If you compare the style of the Colombo hit against any of those other "hits" they are eerily similar. And thats no joke. There has NEVER been a mob hit like that. period!


Fair Enough!! I hate to ask, but would you put Frank Cali in the same weirdo class, as Colombo or JFK, RFK, MLK, etc.??


Of course not. The Cali hit, if you could even call it that, lol, had zero preparedness or sophistication. You wanna compare this deranged jerkoff "kid" pulling a handgun on a lonely street to shoot Cali, with the thousands of people witnessing a shooting against a mob boss (on camera no less), in clear daylight where both the shooter is immediately shot by persons unknown. The gun, camera, and his black female accomplice, etc., vanishing in thin air? And nobody to this day (nearly 50 years later knowing who pulled the trigger on J.Johnson, or who was TRULY behind the Colombo hit with Cali?

Completely different circumstances. And THAT is the beauty of it all. Complete bedlam and confusion. The G is well known for that. The Mob is not!


Cool explanation, it really adds to the mystery of the Colombo hit, thanks! As far as Cali, I meant more in line with RFK, some whacked out assassin claiming mind control or whatever made him do it. As well, as the cops or military industrial complex like angle being involved like JFK and RFK, nothing about being well planned or anything along those lines.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 05:34 PM

The Gino DiPietro hit by Dom and Nicodemo - Just kidding!
Posted By: azguy

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 05:44 PM

Easily Castellano, the fact that they ask other people ahead of time for a tatic approval and it never got back to Paul, amazing
Posted By: Njein

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 06:15 PM

Whacking Maranzano in his Park Avenue office really required some planning like Castellano. He hired Mad Dog Coll to have Lucky Luciano rubbed out, but Lucchese warned Lucky of Maranzano's duplicity. Lucky then sent four hitmen whom Maranzano didn't know of and had them dress up as IRS agents and cops so Maranzano would drop his guard.

Coincidentally, both Maranzano and Castellano were crowned "capo di tutti capi" and died when both were at the height of their careers.
Posted By: diamondjoe

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 09:19 PM

No question in my mind. Has to be Giovanni Falcone in Palermo in 92. Used 400 kilo's of explosives under the motorway. Toto Riinas men carried out test drives, using flashbulbs to simulate detonating the blast on a speeding car, and a concrete structure was specially created and destroyed in an experimental explosion to see if the bomb would be powerful enough.
I think there is nothing near the planning and detail in that offered up yet. That was military precision.
Posted By: Fleming_Ave

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/05/20 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Also the Joe Colombo hit with the killer disguised as journalist and the bodyguards that suddently whacked the shooter. Was an inside job.


Furio, you're completely correct. I forgot about the Colombo hit. In truth that was probably the most well orchestrated hit on a mobster in the mobs history (except that IMO it wasn't the mob at all but the G). Highly sophisticated hit. So much so that it even defy's logic that it could be a mob hit!

It had a planning more reminiscent of the hit on JFK, RK, of MLK..... not an underworld execution.


Colombo had been harshly critical of the law enforcement. I don't think they would have had much of a sense of humor about a mob boss accusing them of harassment.
Posted By: SharpieOne

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 03:05 AM

Probably one we never learned about, like Ralph Coppola.
Posted By: Turnbull

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 03:30 AM

For results relative to desired outcome: Castellando/Bilotti. Brilliantly executed by four identically clad and hatted men wielding identical weapons, to make positive identification impossible. Results: Decapitation of Don and would-be second in command; Gotti got what he wanted. But: He was ultimately convicted and sent to prison for the rest of his life.

Columbo hit was brilliantly and imaginatively executed to mask an inside job, but he lingered for years in a coma. Also, years of turmoil in that Family.

Maranzano hit was the most consequential: Ended the "Moustache Pete" era and led to the Commission replacing Capo di Tutti Capi would-be dictatorship and all the turmoil it caused.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Turnbull
For results relative to desired outcome: Castellando/Bilotti. Brilliantly executed by four identically clad and hatted men wielding identical weapons, to make positive identification impossible. Results: Decapitation of Don and would-be second in command; Gotti got what he wanted. But: He was ultimately convicted and sent to prison for the rest of his life.

Columbo hit was brilliantly and imaginatively executed to mask an inside job, but he lingered for years in a coma. Also, years of turmoil in that Family.

Maranzano hit was the most consequential: Ended the "Moustache Pete" era and led to the Commission replacing Capo di Tutti Capi would-be dictatorship and all the turmoil it caused.


Good observation, I'd have to agree with you
Posted By: pmac

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 09:30 AM

Who ever came up for the actual plan to kill big paul at sparks steakhouse was smart. And the disguises. The whole set up all those involved and the quick take over of the family the 3 capo hit was crazy as it involved so many people and went basically unsolved for 20yrs. I'm sure sammy the bull filled them in 91 but it was in his debriefing online
Posted By: Jimmybrown

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by diamondjoe
No question in my mind. Has to be Giovanni Falcone in Palermo in 92. Used 400 kilo's of explosives under the motorway. Toto Riinas men carried out test drives, using flashbulbs to simulate detonating the blast on a speeding car, and a concrete structure was specially created and destroyed in an experimental explosion to see if the bomb would be powerful enough.
I think there is nothing near the planning and detail in that offered up yet. That was military precision.


I'm with Diamond joe on this one, Falcone was nearly impossible to get.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jimmybrown
Originally Posted by diamondjoe
No question in my mind. Has to be Giovanni Falcone in Palermo in 92. Used 400 kilo's of explosives under the motorway. Toto Riinas men carried out test drives, using flashbulbs to simulate detonating the blast on a speeding car, and a concrete structure was specially created and destroyed in an experimental explosion to see if the bomb would be powerful enough.
I think there is nothing near the planning and detail in that offered up yet. That was military precision.


I'm with Diamond joe on this one, Falcone was nearly impossible to get.

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as far as international mafia hits I'd agree that the Falcone & Borsellino murders were singular. The coordination and size of that Falcone bombing was epic to CN. In America I'd say the previous named hits rank high
Posted By: merlino

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 03:19 PM

Angelo Bruno was something right in front of his house

also sam giancana and also chicago or vegas, anthony spilotro
Posted By: pmac

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/06/20 04:06 PM

The Ralph capola hit is interesting. It kinda slipes out he was killed in pat deluca social club and it was orderd by the acting boss serpico for stealing or something. Would like to know more on subject
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: What hit encompassed the most planning and detail? - 10/08/20 07:17 AM

it had to be the albert anastasia murder........................... the stakes were high, if it didn't go right , and albert lived through it, total war.
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