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Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s

Posted By: ColonelReb

Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/28/20 07:42 AM

A document on Mary Ferrell I found that Wild Bill Cutulo and George Tropiano had an agent on their payroll. Agent Joe Stabile. All the known players were mentioned in this document. Scarpa, Villano, DeVecchio, etc.


Link>>>>>>>> maryferell]file

Posted By: DuesPaid

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/29/20 11:26 PM

The link does not work, neither did the this connection with the FBI since Scarpa’s guy handed the Persico bums the Win.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/30/20 09:20 AM

No access to that file. It was Lucchese soldier John Caputo who controlled Joe Stabile. Colombo soldier George Tropiano paid for Stabile to look for an informant in the Connecticut crew. It was never finished cause Caputo was arrested in 1977, and Stabile was arrested later. Stabile gave Tropiano clues about the identity of the informant, and it is widely believed Stabile told members that Ralph Tropiano had cooperated with the FBI when he was locked up, but stopped when he was released and refused any further. Cutulo was at a bar owned by a relative of John Caputo when Stabile came to inform him that some of his associates were going to be arrested. That is as much information as I know.
Would like to read that file from Mary Ferrell.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/30/20 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
No access to that file. It was Lucchese soldier John Caputo who controlled Joe Stabile. Colombo soldier George Tropiano paid for Stabile to look for an informant in the Connecticut crew. It was never finished cause Caputo was arrested in 1977, and Stabile was arrested later. Stabile gave Tropiano clues about the identity of the informant, and it is widely believed Stabile told members that Ralph Tropiano had cooperated with the FBI when he was locked up, but stopped when he was released and refused any further. Cutulo was at a bar owned by a relative of John Caputo when Stabile came to inform him that some of his associates were going to be arrested. That is as much information as I know.
Would like to read that file from Mary Ferrell.

I fixed the link. The document said John Caputo was Genovese guy.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/30/20 11:04 PM

Also goes into detail about the murder of James Nagi. George Tropiano and Bill Cutulo were charged with the murder in 1975 but nothing ever came of it.

Starts around page 72.
Posted By: Terence

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/30/20 11:58 PM

Anyone know when Tropiano made the jump from the Colombo's to the Bonanno's?
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Terence
Anyone know when Tropiano made the jump from the Colombo's to the Bonanno's?

I always had him as a Colombo guy.
It also talks about a potential hit on a guy named Nicky Boots Caputo. Anybody got any info on him?
Posted By: Terence

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Terence
Anyone know when Tropiano made the jump from the Colombo's to the Bonanno's?

I always had him as a Colombo guy.
It also talks about a potential hit on a guy named Nicky Boots Caputo. Anybody got any info on him?


He was a Colombo member in the 70's but is listed as a Bonanno soldier and acting captain when he was indicted with Cammarano and Zannochio in 2018. I recall seeing a brief video clip of him bring rolled away from the courthouse in a wheelchair, certainly earned the nickname 'Grumpy' with that mug.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by Terence
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Terence
Anyone know when Tropiano made the jump from the Colombo's to the Bonanno's?

I always had him as a Colombo guy.
It also talks about a potential hit on a guy named Nicky Boots Caputo. Anybody got any info on him?


He was a Colombo member in the 70's but is listed as a Bonanno soldier and acting captain when he was indicted with Cammarano and Zannochio in 2018. I recall seeing a brief video clip of him bring rolled away from the courthouse in a wheelchair, certainly earned the nickname 'Grumpy' with that mug.

That's a different guy. George Tropiano was an older guy in his 60s back during this time with bill cutulo.he died in 91. The grumpy George you refer to might be a relative but idk.
George N. Tropiano was 60 at the time of his and wild Bills arrest in 1975.

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Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 02:46 AM

John Caputo has been identified as a soldier in the Lucchese crime family by turncoats in the New York families. The Tropianos have always been in the Colombo crime family. Nick Caputo was transferred from the Colombo to the Bonanno family and made in the Bonanno crime family, due to a beef he was having with George Tropiano.
Thank you for fixing. So James Nagi and Nick Caputo were trying to kill George Tropiano. Joe Gentile was point of contact with Joe Stabile, Joe Gentile was a close friend of John Caputo. James Nagi was paying off LE members for information. I'll read up later. Again thank you for fixing the link.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
John Caputo has been identified as a soldier in the Lucchese crime family by turncoats in the New York families. The Tropianos have always been in the Colombo crime family. Nick Caputo was transferred from the Colombo to the Bonanno family and made in the Bonanno crime family, due to a beef he was having with George Tropiano.
Thank you for fixing. So James Nagi and Nick Caputo were trying to kill George Tropiano. Joe Gentile was point of contact with Joe Stabile, Joe Gentile was a close friend of John Caputo. James Nagi was paying off LE members for information. I'll read up later. Again thank you for fixing the link.

So John Caputo was apart of the Lucchese Harlem crew that Sam Cavalieri was apart of and just got mistaken to be apart of the Genovese Harlem crew of Fat Tony?
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 05:08 AM

Which agent gave Whitey Tropiano up I wonder? Anybody read Tony Villano's book Brick Agent? Villano retired after the so called "Sicilian Feud" between him and a couple other agents of Italian ancestry accused each other or wrong doings.
Posted By: Terence

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Terence
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Terence
Anyone know when Tropiano made the jump from the Colombo's to the Bonanno's?

I always had him as a Colombo guy.
It also talks about a potential hit on a guy named Nicky Boots Caputo. Anybody got any info on him?


He was a Colombo member in the 70's but is listed as a Bonanno soldier and acting captain when he was indicted with Cammarano and Zannochio in 2018. I recall seeing a brief video clip of him bring rolled away from the courthouse in a wheelchair, certainly earned the nickname 'Grumpy' with that mug.

That's a different guy. George Tropiano was an older guy in his 60s back during this time with bill cutulo.he died in 91. The grumpy George you refer to might be a relative but idk.
George N. Tropiano was 60 at the time of his and wild Bills arrest in 1975.

dailynews


Thank you, ColonelReb!
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 06:29 AM

I'd bet my left nut they're related tho Terence.

A newspaper Article describes wild bill as George Tropiano's godson. I found another article from Kenji Gallo's Break Shot blog.....

Bill Jr had a Long Distance Phone card business with Vinnie Oceans from the Decavalcante Family. One backstabbing Persico friend was also in the business and that was George Tropiano. A couple years later I would be in the next generation of the same business and the FBI raided it and took boxes of material pertaining to Bill Sr. I boxed up George Tropiano’s crap in his desk and I’m sure it was thrown out. George hated Bill Sr behind his back, but when I was there George had cancer. Maybe he did the world a favor and kicked it.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 05/31/20 11:18 PM

John Caputo was a member of John Ormento crew, but hanged around Coppola and Strollo crews in the Genovese crime family. So James Nagi was an informant after all. A lot or reading. The Lisi brothers suspected Nagi of informing on them.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Wild Bill had FBI agents in his pocket in 70s - 06/01/20 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
John Caputo was a member of John Ormento crew, but hanged around Coppola and Strollo crews in the Genovese crime family. So James Nagi was an informant after all. A lot or reading. The Lisi brothers suspected Nagi of informing on them.

That explains why he was labeled a Genovese guy. Yeah it took a while to go through all the pages of the document but it is fascinating to me. In the process of releasing more of the Scarpa Files I received from Angela Clemente. The second batch(not the ones on the FBI Vault site)
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