John Alite and Gene Borello podcast

https://youtu.be/1BkBM-d3vXM

Who wants to listen to this shit? They're all a bunch of scumbag liars. Every single one.

But you want people to read YOUR website dedicated to scumbags and liars? I’m confused...

Yes I did

Alite talks about how he changed but then jumps right into how much of a tough guy he was and “ how he got his hands dirty”. Why does he constantly feel the need to bring up how tough he was and why does he always need to bring up Jogn Gotti Jr ???
C’mon Alite, enough with the tough guy talk. All the legit mob guys were involved in solhisticated operations, bullying vulnerable and weak people makes you a predator. If Alite really changed, he would stop bringing up all this tough guy shit.
He then tells everyone how bad the mob is and how guys still try and act like mobsters but then Alite wears a suit with sunglasses and smokes a cigar and makes sure his picture is taken in his mobster atire. Whats up with that.
Regarding how tough he was ? He never boxed in a controlled environment such as amateurs or golden gloves. He never wrestled in high school. Who exactly were the guys Alite hurt? Im sure they werent tough guys. He went after weak and vulnerable people. He sexually assaulted his contractor in south jersey, the contractor was defenseless. He sexually brutalized the poor guy.
How many guys did Alite attack from behind while he was pumped up on drugs?
The other guy Borello claims he was the only guy in his neighborhood that the mob chose to collect money. Truth is, he was the only guy DUMB enough to get used and taken advantage of. He was also a total scumbag and low life. Hey, i was no angel but i had a code. I would never commit a home invasion, thats the most low life crime just above hurting a child. He is a total fuckin loser and a scumbag. Although in his defense, he was a ballsy kid and i dont think he had too much of a father figure at home so i really shouldnt judge.
I do agree with him though about Franseze who i think is a spoiled brat.

Alite and Franseze both should give it up.

Franzese’s interviews are interesting to me. Alite and Borello weren’t in the same era or on the same level. I still listen to both but I trust what Franzese says more. Especially more than Borello.

I would say the kid gene is somewhat of a scumbag, but because he ratted, definitely not because of the home invasions. A home invasion on a citizen is one thing, but if you're slinging and you get caught slipping and get got, too bad. This generation breaks all 10 crack commandments lol. Just my opinion

another bull shit point Alite brings up as well as the kid Borello does is that to be a true gangster you had to of hurt people, committed armed robberies, dealt drugs and used a gun. that is such bull shit.
the mob is all about making money. there are plenty of high level respected wise guys that dont and never engaged in any cowboy bull shit. violence and killing is last resort. they come across as brainless thugs when they talk like that. the big money is in construction. these 2 idiots are out there playing “ boys in the hood”. true wise guys have legitimate business’s. look at any campos and richie martino. andy is a fuckin multi millionaire and would’nt waste two minutes with those 2 knuckleheads. Campos is respected.
i know for a fact, if this kid Borello would acted like that in the 80’s even early 90’s, he would of been visited by 2 guys with thick necks and given not only a bitch slapping but they would of told him to
stop watching good fella’s and told to hop on a plane to canada. no way they would of put up with that bull
shit. Alite did in fact get chased out of howard beach and he has balls talking about One Arm while he is away. give me s break.

borello looks like the typical dumb scumbag.

a true gangster never rat or drug deal and must be capable of violence anything else is optional and either helps his reputation or discredits it.

drug dealers and con men and thieves are not gangsters.

image and optics are not real. this is why people think john alite and borello are gangsters.

Being violent and commiting home invasions doesnt make you a gangster, what the fuck are they talking about. I can name about 10 wise guys off the top of my head that were very well respected and not one was “ very violent”.
These ultra violent guys always have a short shelf life and either end up dead or ratting. Remember the Giannini crew out of queens or the tanglewood boys??! Same shit. Same with the so called bath avenue crew.

Just remember, he writes in his first book that his father put a hit out on him, and then in that show with his wife, she says he was going to see his father and she was worried that he was more loyal to his mob family then him and he could be in danger and he told her you're crazy, my father would never do that...Kind of contradicts what he wrote in his book !!

He's no better then the other two, just looking to hustle a buck...

I like how he chooses to bad mouth Gravano, like somehow if Garvano's the focus of being a rat, it takes the heat off of himself for being one !!

i cant remember much about gianni crew

the bath avenue crew are great example because 80% ratted mostly in the 90s they were mostly killers and drug dealers. they killed for petty reasons and didnt care if innocents got hurt. including they used drugs like ecstacy and cocaine at parties or at jobs and injected steroids. how they all got in the mob i dont know. i guess people get imprssed with loud mouths who hurt people

sammy the bul if your out there just already do your podcast.... cash in. maybe you an only made guys speaking on the history in the 70tys and 80tys even 90tys

alite hasnt been in the mix for the last 30yrs and the other guy was a kid. i cant stand micahel franzese but atleast he has the credentials

give me sammy and michael interview other made guys who ratted and i would maybe give a listen to hear there story

joe massino podcast lol

l listend to acouple barstool podcasts at the gym but it got boring went back to boston sports talk radio. i could never imagine the day tom brady would leave for tampa. but sneaky love the place cheap warm beach over clearwater

The kid Borello likes to bad mouth Ronny G and actually says something rather absurd. He says Ronny G was dumb but very smart at making money.. what the fuck does that mean ??? I would rather hang with a dude who was smart at making money than a guy who was good at physics but couldnt make a dime in a bank vault. What a dumb fuckin comment. Ronny G made so much money and is smart. Ronny G was making millions with a huge sports book and shylocking biz while Borello is robbing peoples homes. He claims Ronny G couldnt survive without him! Bullshit. Ronny G had so much money he could have hired any very large intimidating looking guy to do collections. Those guys arent hard to find in queens.
Borello commited home invasions against innocent civilians not only drug dealers. That is a fact. He also targeted inncocent people. Guys like Alite and Borello get used by guys like Gotti Jr and Ronny G and then throw them away because they are a liability. Why would they give Borello a button?
What innovative money making schemes can he come up with? robbing little kids? That sounds good in your 20’s but lets move out of the low IQ realm and be a little more sophisticated.
Hey Alite, while you were abusing weak people on the street and being a bully with no innovative rackets, a ton of wiseguys were earning with construction and other high scale operations. I guess Steven Crea and Frank Lastorino arent true tough guys??
Give me a fucking break. Whats up with Alite trying to make a music video and listening to Drake. You are in your late 50’s my man, not 21. Did you have balls? Yes you did and you were tough but balls come in different forms not just preying on the weak. that said, i am not saying you werent tough, you were but so were a bunch of others.

The true tough guys are all the fathers that take care of their children, teach them right from wrong, teach them to respect others, teach them to throw a baseball, teaches them the value of hard work. Those are true hero’s and tough guys. Not a guy like john alite who supposedly talks to kids about “ doing the right thing” but then immediately feels the need to bring up his tough guy stories and how he was a true gangster. Lets leave that part out Alite and just focus on the kids.
fyi, Gotti jr never brings you up unless he is asked about you. why bring up John every time you do an interview. he also says the life wasnt for him.

Agreed.

Borrello said that nobody in the history of the mafia was making $10 million or anything close to that a week and the only person making anything like that in the world of crime was Escobar and El Chapo. I think he’s talking about the american mafia strictly. In that case he could be right but he also could be wrong. There were some heavy earners in the american Mafia. By all accounts of the law and even people who openly don’t like Franzese like Ori Spado have stated that at his height he was making millions a week. I don’t believe he was kicking $2 million a week up to Persico routinely though.

So Gene Borrello claims nobody made 10 million dollars a week, in the complete history of the mafia? How the fuck would he know? so Frank Costello, Meyer Lansky adjusted for inflation didn't make that much? Doesn't mean they didn't have to split it or maybe not for a substantial amount of time but how would he even know, he didn't have a button and he's after the 2000's.

Don’t know shit about the real dollar amount but that number that the feds came up with in the gas scam was probably the whole number not the money that was dropped off each week.

Just like he Michael F was not a mob boss its all fucken smoke and mirrors.

Lil Allie is the one that knows the real number Michael F will always blow it up, and sure it’s around 10% of the number that was thrown out for all these years. But bet your ass the family is living off that investment and will for years to come .

what are they going to do for one hour air time talk shit about gangsters they told on? or kiss the ass of other gangster who told on there mafia families to. they should call it the mafia bitch chronicles a hour of talking shit about other men. thats why im giving sammy the bull a free idea go year by year 77 78 to 90 he flipped the history each year from his view and anyone he cant get to spill for shit that happend that year. its mostly all been chronicled before but i would listen to sammy give his thought on the carmine galante hit in brooklyn for 45 min all the players who it affected how it affected him and his capo ect

When I listen to Borrello , there is a Sicilian word that comes to mind: Gintaloon.
It doesn't really have a corresponding English translation,but the closest to it is "stupid lumbering hoodlum". I think it fits the bill.

+1,000,000 - The hypocrisy is strong with that one.

I haven’t heard of any american mobster making money equivalent to an international drug kingpin but that is because the laws are stricter here. There were some mobsters who were involved with drugs who were making the american equivalent of what someone like Escobar was making I’m sure. Galante comes to mind first. I don’t think there were any other rackets that generated as much cash as drugs for the mafia. Maybe gambling. If that’s the case then you would just look at the top gambling operations during that time. Tony Salerno had the biggest.

I also think Mike Franseze is full of shit.

New one has Anthony ruggiano jr talking about the days when John gotti and Nicky corozzo we’re in the same crew. And there was back and forth later on between the crews. They hit Freddy hot in the head with a hammer and they retaliated by shooting Angelo quack quack brother in the face

The same brother who was a big drug dealer and died in a plane accident? I have always read about the rivalry between Gotti and Corozzo.

some of it. he did implicate non-mob guys and I believe they served little jail time and fines. im interested to know if mike was implicated in any murders. sonny accused of 50 murders but the only kill i can find on the internet is ernest rupolo. anyone fill me in??

A rats a rat...Doesn't matter who you testify against, you take the stand against someone, you're a rat....I also saw that one agent say that he even gave info on his father

https://apnews.com/09ad54d04c2d37d87932bf47ff5f1d5d

THIS IS THE MICHAEL FRANZESE INDICTMENT OUT OF FLORIDA...SAYS THEY STOLE 40 MILLION OVER 6 YEARS. VERY FAR FROM THE 10 MILLION A WEEK HE CLAIMS... IT WAS ESTIMATED IN TOTAL OVER 7 YEARS THAT 290 MILLION WAS STOLE...THATS A TON OF MONEY BUT NOTHING LIKE THE 10 MILLION A WEEK HE IS CLAIMING CAME IN

https://apnews.com/e477020f26aa0fccaf73964486aec1ee

INDICTMENT IN NEW JERSEY FOR STEALING 3 MILLION IN TAXES TOTAL...3 MILLION PRETTY FAR FROM 10 MILLION A WEEK

Why does Iorizzo confirm Michael’s numbers?

Anyone listen to the guy anthony arillotta from Massachusetts. Give me a cliff notes. I mean I read alot of his shit from trials. He was interesting but why is this. Becoming a platform there's something inner. I think. Like why do all these guys know each other and have a radio to tell there stories. I guess they been doing it on tv for 40yts since PBS shit but the podcasts idk

More Massachusetts will not open to may 18 . He my guy on other side of pond. It's weird. I'm about to get fired from my renovation to the stars job

Moe

Alite is a blowhard who was a bottom-tier fringe player at best. Borello is a tweaker.
Why did I just waste time on these two clowns?

It's just the same old recycled shit from 15 yrs ago move. Go rob someone or got get a good job with benefits rite

@Pmac I watched it the other day when he was with Alite and Gene. I was hoping he would talk more about New England guys, meaning the Patriarcas but he vaguely touched on it.

Basically said how since his making ceremony was in NY opposed to being in MA was a huge deal. It allowed him to answer directly to NY.

He said that he was making more money in his weed selling business then he did when he was made and working with the Genovese people.

Talked about the Bruno hit. And how that all went down. He said he was never formally told about it. The work was given to someone else.

He says that they bumped Felix up as the " boss of the area " to take the heat off him. And that he was the guy with the most juice for that wing of the family in the Springfield, CT, and into Albany areas.

Some stuff off the top of my head. Nothing Earth shattering in my opinion. I wish he dove alittle deeper into the nearby operations and players.

Arilotta never mentions the “ bosses” he met directly with in new york. Who was it that he reported to? What part of new york did he meet in? Where was he made?
That guy gene borello looks just like the guy Murray from impractical jokers.,

Artie nitro was a capo and acting boss in 2003 04. Hes the guy who inducted him but it seems there's so many acting bosses in the genovese around that time period maybe it was a committee. In court he says felix trangese brought the presentecing report of emilo fusco down to a steakhouse in the bronx and there was a group of men at a table. Felix was told to waitoutside then artie came out after the guys looked over the paper and artie said bruno's got to go. I guess he seen the local FBI agent at like a VFW and the agent said Emilio fusco a knuckle head and bruno said it wasn't my call to induct him I was in jail. That little sentence got into a FBI report and that got him killed

Arrilotta's making ceremony is detailed in this GQ article.

First 5 paragraphs or so.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/the-five-families?amp

No he def didn't mention any specific. Which is course brings into the question of is he full of shit? I took his interview with a grain of salt. I'm sure some of the stuff was true. But he's with guys on a podcast that are questionable to begin with.