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Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto

Posted By: antimafia

Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 02:08 PM

Musitano was shot in Mississauga, a city just west of Toronto that is a suburb.

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...obster-pat-musitano-shot-in-mississauga/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 02:14 PM

He was shot in the face.

Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano shot in Mississauga: police source

https://go.shr.lc/2VitHRN
Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 02:17 PM

wow
the mafia lately are making all the headlines
whether if it's in italy or usa or canada
Posted By: DanD

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 02:25 PM

Peel Regional Police will be updating the media on scene at 11:00 am as per their tweet

https://twitter.com/PeelPoliceMedia

Quote
Update: Media relations officers, @OfficerMooken and @OfficerTaryn will be at this scene at 11 a.m. to speak with the media.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:04 PM

Reporter and video journalist Matt Ingram, currently working for CHCH News, has been tweeting live from the scene. His handle is @MattIngramNEWS.
Posted By: NickleCity

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Reporter and video journalist Matt Ingram, currently working for CHCH News, has been tweeting live from the scene. His handle is @MattIngramNEWS.

Thanks Anti!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:28 PM

The Hamilton Spectator's Nicole O'Reilly has updated the paper's article on the shooting. Link below is to the Toronto Star site -- both papers are owned by the same parent company -- but please note you may hit a paywall if you've already ready five (5) free articles on the Toronto Star site this month.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-mississauga-taken-to-trauma-centre.html
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Reporter and video journalist Matt Ingram, currently working for CHCH News, has been tweeting live from the scene. His handle is @MattIngramNEWS.


https://twitter.com/MattIngramNEWS/status/1121433506868092928

Matt Ingram @MattIngramNEWS

#BREAKING Police hold presser, say victim shot multiple times, remains in life-threatening condition, wouldn't say where in body shot, wouldn't say why he was here, will say it happened outside vehicle @CHCHNews

11:19 AM - 25 Apr 2019 from Mississauga, Ontario
Posted By: Mooney

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:35 PM

Damn! Angelo was whacked a couple years ago, his uncle passes away a week or two ago....now this! Musitanos are definitely done for. Any speculation as to where this is coming from? Could it be Rocco Papalia? He was released from Prison a few years ago right? I am sure he has a vendetta ever since the Musitanos took out His brother Johnny back in 97'.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:36 PM

Jesus a day after his uncles funeral.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
The Hamilton Spectator's Nicole O'Reilly has updated the paper's article on the shooting. Link below is to the Toronto Star site -- both papers are owned by the same parent company -- but please note you may hit a paywall if you've already read five (5) free articles on the Toronto Star site this month.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-mississauga-taken-to-trauma-centre.html


If you hit a paywall and haven't found another way to view the article, you can view the story at

https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca...obster-pat-musitano-shot-in-mississauga/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 04:07 PM

How the media were reporting the story before knowing the victim was Pat Musitano:

https://globalnews.ca/news/5201456/man-critical-injuries-shot-mississauga/

https://www.cp24.com/news/man-critical-after-being-shot-in-mississauga-1.4394360

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/04/25/man-critical-gunshot-wounds-mississauga/

https://www.insauga.com/man-in-mississauga-transported-to-trauma-centre-with-apparent-gunshot-wounds
Posted By: mike68

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mooney
Damn! Angelo was whacked a couple years ago, his uncle passes away a week or two ago....now this! Musitanos are definitely done for. Any speculation as to where this is coming from? Could it be Rocco Papalia? He was released from Prison a few years ago right? I am sure he has a vendetta ever since the Musitanos took out His brother Johnny back in 97'.


This has everything to do with the revenge murders of Al Iavarone and Rocco Luppino. Live by the sword, die by the sword. The Musitanos are done. And the tweet about Pat whacking his brother was total BS.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 04:44 PM

Posted By: mike68

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 04:54 PM

I say they should have waited and let high cholesterol do the job for them....
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 04:56 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mobster-pat-musitano-fighting-for-life-after-shooting-report

Mobster Pat Musitano fighting for life after shooting: Report
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 05:27 PM

Good information in the article to which I've linked below.

Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano shot in Mississauga

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/musitano-1.5110491
Posted By: Mooney

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 06:21 PM

I am surprised that Pat let his guard down, I mean after all these years of looking over his shoulder you think he would be looking for something like this. I guess we are all human and we all would have moments of letting our guard down. He probably never expected it at 7 am you know?
Posted By: BronaZora

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by mike68

This has everything to do with the revenge murders of Al Iavarone and Rocco Luppino. Live by the sword, die by the sword. The Musitanos are done. And the tweet about Pat whacking his brother was total BS.


Yea this was definitely revenge for the recent hits, but I should say that other attempts on Pat have been carried out in the past, so it was gonna happen at some point.

Also I should point out that the Musitanos may be one of the smaller families and if Pat dies they definitely take a hit, I wouldn't say they're done. As you know, families like this consist mostly of relatives that are on the "IN" and an extended network of associates. I suspect there will be more retaliation from their end to avenge their cousin. This is more like a mustache Pete peasant kind of war filled with vendettas, it's not longer about business.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 07:26 PM

He lost a lot of weight recently, he’s not as heavy anymore.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 08:07 PM

Additional important details are being revealed.

UPDATE: Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano shot in Mississauga

https://www.mississauga.com/news-st...obster-pat-musitano-shot-in-mississauga/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 08:21 PM

If he was moving from place to place, maybe someone at the funeral picked up that he would visit his lawyer the next day.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 09:43 PM

Pat Musitano didn't attend either his uncle's visitation or funeral.

Updated article, with contribution by Peter Edwards
Posted By: Ben54

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 10:16 PM

Holy shit, it’s the Wild West up there and it never ends!
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 10:19 PM

CHCH News had a good segment on its TV broadcast about 10 minutes ago. I had to watch the live stream on the Net because a current Amber Alert in Ontario prevents TV viewers from hearing any audio while the alert is repeatedly playing on your TV screen.

Musitano met lawyer Joseph Irving at 6:00 am. Musitano is apparently involved in a huge fraud case that alleges he didn't pay subcontractors; the company Havana Group Supplies in Burlington (Ontario) was mentioned, and one page of a document was displayed. After Musitano met with his lawyer for one hour, he left Irving's office and was then shot.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/25/19 10:55 PM

Six things to know about the shooting of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ooting-of-hamilton-mobster-pat-musitano/

Here's an interesting comment by someone following the Hamilton Spectator's post on Facebook about the attempted murder this morning:

Hamilton Spectator Facebook post linking to its own article

Joanne Barker
The Hamilton Spectator I have your answers. HAVANA GROUP SUPPLIES. Steve sardinha, zach everett. Linda everett (vice president) I believe the lappino shooting was also involving Musitano. He owns ROCCO Construction that was in hauling. And Pat and Havana wanted to be number 1. Pming you!

Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 6:45 pm [EST]

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Incidentally, the website for Havana Group Supplies does not seem to be operational. Here's a link to Google's cache of the site:

Havana Group Supplies site -- Google cache
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 12:53 AM

Latest Mafia-related shooting exposes epicentre of organized crime in the GTA

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...-exposes-epicentre-of-organized-crime-in
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment


Brad Hunter updated his article. A lot.

Reputed Hamilton mafia boss Pat Musitano fights for life after shooting

https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/mobster-pat-musitano-fighting-for-life-after-shooting-report
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 01:18 AM

Hamilton mobster changed Niagara’s underworld

https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca...on-mobster-changed-niagara-s-underworld/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
CHCH News had a good segment on its TV broadcast about 10 minutes ago. I had to watch the live stream on the Net because a current Amber Alert in Ontario prevents TV viewers from hearing any audio while the alert is repeatedly playing on your TV screen.

Musitano met lawyer Joseph Irving at 6:00 am. Musitano is apparently involved in a huge fraud case that alleges he didn't pay subcontractors; the company Havana Group Supplies in Burlington (Ontario) was mentioned, and one page of a document was displayed. After Musitano met with his lawyer for one hour, he left Irving's office and was then shot.


The CHCH News broadcast from this past evening's news is now available. Go to https://www.chch.com/news/evening-news/episodes/?epid=1167&sgid=1, let the video buffer, and scrub to the 3:25 mark.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 11:38 AM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hami...string-of-mob-related-violence-1.5111046


Shooting of Pat Musitano the latest in a deadly string of mob-related violence
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
[snip]

Here's an interesting comment by someone following the Hamilton Spectator's post on Facebook about the attempted murder this morning:

Hamilton Spectator Facebook post linking to its own article

Joanne Barker
The Hamilton Spectator I have your answers. HAVANA GROUP SUPPLIES. Steve sardinha, zach everett. Linda everett (vice president) I believe the lappino shooting was also involving Musitano. He owns ROCCO Construction that was in hauling. And Pat and Havana wanted to be number 1. Pming you!

Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 6:45 pm [EST]

[snip]


The woman who posted on Facebook may be the person on Twitter who posted three pages of what appear to be some legal proceeding involving a number of plaintiffs and numerous defendants. Musitano's name appears four lines from the bottom of the list of defendants.

https://twitter.com/Joclyn36115822/status/1121755446266814464
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 04:10 PM

Reporter Susan Clairmont of the Hamilton Spectator tweeted at 10:20 am today that "[m]obster Pat Musitano is still clinging to life after being shot yesterday. I got his condition update moments ago from @PeelPoliceMedia."

That Peel Regional Police account on Twitter is their main one; she might have dealt with someone in Media Relations.

https://twitter.com/susanclairmont/status/1121780977221689345
Posted By: pmac

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 04:26 PM

That violi guy whose the underboss of the buffalo family was on wiretap saying he knew these brothers were marked for death. Is it because they orderd that guy johnny pops murder like 20 yrs ago. He was in a different crime family and im betting they didnt have permission to kill a lcn member
Posted By: Nitro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
That violi guy whose the underboss of the buffalo family was on wiretap saying he knew these brothers were marked for death. Is it because they orderd that guy johnny pops murder like 20 yrs ago. He was in a different crime family and im betting they didnt have permission to kill a lcn member

interesting,, you have a source ? If it true that Buffalo get more power. Then its make sense that they push this group out.
Posted By: The_Marble_Guy

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
That violi guy whose the underboss of the buffalo family was on wiretap saying he knew these brothers were marked for death. Is it because they orderd that guy johnny pops murder like 20 yrs ago. He was in a different crime family and im betting they didnt have permission to kill a lcn member


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...rld-how-a-drug-plea-has-exposed-a-mafia/

It might be this article. Three quarters of the way down, Violi discusses the Musitanos after Angelo was killed and mentioned Pat being on the lamb/not having much time left.
Posted By: Mooney

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
That violi guy whose the underboss of the buffalo family was on wiretap saying he knew these brothers were marked for death. Is it because they orderd that guy johnny pops murder like 20 yrs ago. He was in a different crime family and im betting they didnt have permission to kill a lcn member


I support this theory, even though Johnny Papalia wasn't lcn, he was very close to Stefano Maggadino and the rest of the buffalo family. Pat had him whacked in 97. Also interesting to note, Johnny Papalias brother Rocco just got out of prison a year or two ago. But really it could be from any number of people. Pat had this coming from a number of directions...the GTA ndrangheta is done with him.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mooney
Originally Posted by pmac
That violi guy whose the underboss of the buffalo family was on wiretap saying he knew these brothers were marked for death. Is it because they orderd that guy johnny pops murder like 20 yrs ago. He was in a different crime family and im betting they didnt have permission to kill a lcn member


I support this theory, even though Johnny Papalia wasn't lcn, he was very close to Stefano Maggadino and the rest of the buffalo family. Pat had him whacked in 97. Also interesting to note, Johnny Papalias brother Rocco just got out of prison a year or two ago. But really it could be from any number of people. Pat had this coming from a number of directions...the GTA ndrangheta is done with him.



What makes you think he wasn't LCN? He's been identified as a Buffalo member and capo by various sources.

Only the Musitanos are still a matter of debate whether they were Buffalo members, but I would be suprised if they were the exception.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 07:15 PM

Antimafia posted a few weeks ago a diagram where pat musitano was linked to several Buffalo figures including a former governor of NY. So he may also be a member of the same family as the Violis.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 07:32 PM

https://www.insauga.com/police-investigating-after-alleged-crime-boss-shot-in-mississauga

Police Investigating After Alleged Crime Boss Shot in Mississauga
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 08:10 PM

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...alked-about-getting-rid-of-pat-musitano/

Here's how a wiretap conversation talked about getting rid of Pat Musitano
Posted By: pmac

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 08:52 PM

thats the article i read that in. im just guessing a reason for them getting killed it would make the most sense its revenge for having that coke crack head murdock kill balliro and paps. i think they were both inducted members of the buffalo family going back to the 50tys. wasnt he maggadinos capo in canada? isnt that why he almost went to war with his cousin joe bonanno cause he was trying to go in that terrotory
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...alked-about-getting-rid-of-pat-musitano/

Here's how a wiretap conversation talked about getting rid of Pat Musitano


Excerpt:

In the September 2017 recorded conversation, Dom Violi says the Musitanos were supporting the Cuntreras, who at times are referred to as the "coffee guys." The Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia family is known in the Woodbridge and Toronto areas. The home of Giuseppe Cuntrera, referred to in the court documents as "Big Joe," was targeted with gunshots and fire in the summer of 2017.

Pat and Ang Musitano are referred to in an earlier recorded conversation with the police agent, which is also included in the court file, from Jan. 6, 2016 — more than a year before Angelo's murder. In that conversation, Joe Violi talks about a plan he'd heard about from a hit man to target two people, one in Hamilton and one in Toronto.

Violi tells the police agent he thought the Musitanos and the Cuntreras were behind those plans. But it appears those murders, if there was ever any truth to the plans, never happened.


What a mindf*ck this all is, especially because Business or Blood argued that the Siderno Group and Caruana-Cuntrera family were in cahoots, the latter in effect therefore no longer beholden to the Rizzutos.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 09:22 PM

the caruana-cuntrera's are still allied with the rizzuto's
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 09:23 PM

Yeah canadian authorities need to take lessons from their Italian or US colleagues, with no pentiti this is getting out of control.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 09:31 PM

violi said morena that 'they' wanted musitano dead, maybe the siderno group? there is a war between caruana-cuntrera and the siderno group?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
violi said morena that 'they' wanted musitano dead, maybe the siderno group? there is a war between caruana-cuntrera and the siderno group?


Problem with that is it's labelled the "Siderno Group" because its members primarily came from the town of Siderno, but it doesn't have a structure it's just a group of families. The structure are the locali.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/26/19 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by m2w
violi said morena that 'they' wanted musitano dead, maybe the siderno group? there is a war between caruana-cuntrera and the siderno group?


Problem with that is it's labelled the "Siderno Group" because its members primarily came from the town of Siderno, but it doesn't have a structure it's just a group of families. The structure are the locali.


There is a strong argument to be made that the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group is still one locale, just as it was in the 1960s. In 2010, at 43 inducted members, there appeared to be fewer members than in the 1970s, when Mike Racco was the undisputed leader of the Siderno Group in Toronto and had probably come the closest any mafIoso has ever come to being the godfather of Toronto.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 12:32 AM

Can someone educate me on who the siderno group consists of?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Can someone educate me on who the siderno group consists of?


Look up Siderno Group, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia; it will give you some idea of who they are.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Can someone educate me on who the siderno group consists of?


And within the ‘Ndrangheta, the four main families in Siderno – the Commisso, the Aquino-Coluccio, the Crupi, and the Figliomeni – are among the biggest players, according to Antonio De Bernardo, a regional anti-mafia prosecutor.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...alked-about-getting-rid-of-pat-musitano/

Here's how a wiretap conversation talked about getting rid of Pat Musitano


Excerpt:

In the September 2017 recorded conversation, Dom Violi says the Musitanos were supporting the Cuntreras, who at times are referred to as the "coffee guys." The Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia family is known in the Woodbridge and Toronto areas. The home of Giuseppe Cuntrera, referred to in the court documents as "Big Joe," was targeted with gunshots and fire in the summer of 2017.

Pat and Ang Musitano are referred to in an earlier recorded conversation with the police agent, which is also included in the court file, from Jan. 6, 2016 — more than a year before Angelo's murder. In that conversation, Joe Violi talks about a plan he'd heard about from a hit man to target two people, one in Hamilton and one in Toronto.

Violi tells the police agent he thought the Musitanos and the Cuntreras were behind those plans. But it appears those murders, if there was ever any truth to the plans, never happened.


What a mindf*ck this all is, especially because Business or Blood argued that the Siderno Group and Caruana-Cuntrera family were in cahoots, the latter in effect therefore no longer beholden to the Rizzutos.


But who says the Siderno group is alligned with the Luppinos? Who says the intended target of the Cuntreras and Musitanos in Toronto was a Siderno group member?

Rizzuto said to a police officer that he didn't believe the attacks on his family came from Toronto, but that he believed it was coming from New York. We know now that this was largely true so he was most likely oddly honest.

Also, you know better than any about rivalries within the Siderno group. Maybe some were in cahoots with the Cuntreras (and in effect the Rizzutos) and some weren't.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 04:10 AM

Yet another theory emerges as to why Musitano was shot.

The mobster, the fraudster and the $110-million-a-month construction business: The story of a Hamilton company’s alleged scam

A company with ties to a local mobster and convicted fraudster is alleged to have perpetrated a multimillion-dollar scam that has resulted in tattered lives and lawsuits across the Hamilton area


Link:

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ry-of-a-hamilton-company-s-alleged-scam/

Web Archive link in case you hit a paywall:

Web Archive link
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Can someone educate me on who the siderno group consists of?


https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/a-new-mafia-crime-families-ruling-toronto-italy-alleges/amp

Anything you need to know.
Posted By: Luxurydog

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 04:58 AM

These wars and murders must make every politician on the payroll or who were willing to cooperate with them in past and future must be trying to avoid and ignore them in fear of them being prosecuted due to the heat. We know from the previous indictments that the Rizzuto Cosa Nostra had political strings, wasn't it Leonardo and a few others who were exanorated by the queen for gangsterism?

I truly don't get why these Ndgrangheta Clans and Cosa Nostra families never learn that this sort of continous open violence makes politicians and other business oppurtunities skeeve away and avoid them in fear of being caught up in a headline. I mean I don' really know but if you were a slightly crooked otherwise A4 politician with a family would you choose to implicate yourself with that sort of risky and loud organization?

Canada's crazy these days
Posted By: m2w

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 08:20 AM

maybe violi meant the luppino's wanted him dead
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by m2w
maybe violi meant the luppino's wanted him dead


Or the Papalia clan at least they have a clear motive.


Italy
Domenico Papalia, Johnny Papalia's first cousin, was a boss in the 'Ndrangheta in Calabria. He was involved in at least five kidnappings and convicted for the 1976 murder of rival mobster Antonio D'Agostino.[4] In the 1970s, a branch of the Papalia family relocated their operations from Platì to Buccinasco near Milan. Another two first cousins of Johnny, Antonio and Rocco Papalia, used ransom money from kidnppings to buy large shipments of drugs for export. In 1993, authorities seized a house, factory, land, cars and businesses that belonged to Antonio and Rocco, worth over $40 million.[4] The Papalias also operated with the Barbaro 'ndrina in the north–south operation, also having connections stretching to Australia.

On July 10, 2008, in the Cerberus operation of the Guardia di Finanza, several people were arrested including Domenico, Rocco and Antonio Papalia who were said to have controlled the construction sector in Buccinasco, Corsico and Pogliano Milanese.[13] On May 6, 2017, after being imprisoned since 1992, Rocco Papalia, nicknamed nginu, was released.[14]
Posted By: m2w

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 10:45 AM

in other words the buffalo family
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by m2w
in other words the buffalo family


Yes this seems internal within the Hamilton crew.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 12:03 PM

Pat Musitano lawsuit

https://www.chch.com/pat-musitano-lawsuit/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Yet another theory emerges as to why Musitano was shot.

The mobster, the fraudster and the $110-million-a-month construction business: The story of a Hamilton company’s alleged scam

A company with ties to a local mobster and convicted fraudster is alleged to have perpetrated a multimillion-dollar scam that has resulted in tattered lives and lawsuits across the Hamilton area


Link:

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ry-of-a-hamilton-company-s-alleged-scam/

Web Archive link in case you hit a paywall:

Web Archive link


There will be many theories, the Musitano's seemed to have made many of enemies over the years.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...alked-about-getting-rid-of-pat-musitano/

Here's how a wiretap conversation talked about getting rid of Pat Musitano


Excerpt:

In the September 2017 recorded conversation, Dom Violi says the Musitanos were supporting the Cuntreras, who at times are referred to as the "coffee guys." The Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia family is known in the Woodbridge and Toronto areas. The home of Giuseppe Cuntrera, referred to in the court documents as "Big Joe," was targeted with gunshots and fire in the summer of 2017.

Pat and Ang Musitano are referred to in an earlier recorded conversation with the police agent, which is also included in the court file, from Jan. 6, 2016 — more than a year before Angelo's murder. In that conversation, Joe Violi talks about a plan he'd heard about from a hit man to target two people, one in Hamilton and one in Toronto.

Violi tells the police agent he thought the Musitanos and the Cuntreras were behind those plans. But it appears those murders, if there was ever any truth to the plans, never happened.


What a mindf*ck this all is, especially because Business or Blood argued that the Siderno Group and Caruana-Cuntrera family were in cahoots, the latter in effect therefore no longer beholden to the Rizzutos.


I agree mindf*ck is a good characterization........LOL

But the above mentioned theory (Musitano/Cuntrera) may explain why the Cuntrera's were being targeted. It kind of makes sense for now. Given the fact that some of the Luppino daughters married members of a prominent Ndrangheta family and Violi promotion to underboss shows that there may have been a strategic alliance between NY, Violi/Luppino & Ndrangheta to purge remnants of the Rizzuto holdings in Ontario.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/27/19 01:35 PM

These are the victims of the GTA underworld power struggle

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/ontario-mob-1.5112120
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/28/19 07:19 PM

Any updates on his status? If he survives and recovers I think there will be a lot of bloodshed.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/28/19 08:29 PM

Anti,

Here is a tweet from that same twitter feed you linked earlier. This is VERY interesting:


Joclyn
‏@Joclyn36115822
Apr 25
Replying to @PeelPoliceMedia

Not a mob hit bad business related to Havana Group supplies @hollyrowe @Kellyrowe @crystallnorton @ waterdowngardens @ zacheverett @lindaeverett
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/28/19 08:31 PM

And they posted that as soon as the supposed hit happened, I'm not even sure they knew it was Pat right away and he/she has already posted that tweet in reply. Very interesting and could other heads roll?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/28/19 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by m2w
violi said morena that 'they' wanted musitano dead, maybe the siderno group? there is a war between caruana-cuntrera and the siderno group?


Problem with that is it's labelled the "Siderno Group" because its members primarily came from the town of Siderno, but it doesn't have a structure it's just a group of families. The structure are the locali.


There is a strong argument to be made that the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group is still one locale, just as it was in the 1960s. In 2010, at 43 inducted members, there appeared to be fewer members than in the 1970s, when Mike Racco was the undisputed leader of the Siderno Group in Toronto and had probably come the closest any mafIoso has ever come to being the godfather of Toronto.


Thanks and does La Provincia control them or a single boss?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 09:38 AM


NY Mafia linked to bloody Hamilton Mafia War?

https://aboutthemafia.com/ny-mafia-linked-to-bloody-hamilton-mafia-war
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 10:06 AM

During a March 2018 trial of 'Ndrangheta members in the Greater Toronto Area in Canada, an agreed Statement of Fact indicated that "the Locali [local cells] outside of Calabria replicate the structure from Calabria, and are connected to their mother-Locali in Calabria. The authority to start Locali outside Calabria comes from the governing bodies of the organization in Calabria. The Locali outside of Calabria are part of the same 'Ndrangheta organization as in Calabria, and maintain close relationships with the Locali where its members come from." The group's activities in the Greater Toronto Area were controlled by a group known as the 'Camera Di Controllo' (also known as La Provincia, according to the statement) which "makes all of the final decisions", according to the witness' testimony
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 02:21 PM

The informant also indicated that there had to be at least 50 members per locale.

Other sources report that there are 9 locale in Ontario. Some even go as far as reporting that there may be one locale in Montreal.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 05:23 PM

Any one know musitanos status? Is he still alive? And who is left of his crime family? Does he have enough man power to start sending retaliatory hits?
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 05:55 PM

who's the last guy based out of canada to flip?
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 06:58 PM

Carmine Guido.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 07:29 PM

Police sting revealed plans for gangland hits on Musitano family

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/musitano-court-documents-1.5115426
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/29/19 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Anti,

Here is a tweet from that same twitter feed you linked earlier. This is VERY interesting:


Joclyn
‏@Joclyn36115822
Apr 25
Replying to @PeelPoliceMedia

Not a mob hit bad business related to Havana Group supplies @hollyrowe @Kellyrowe @crystallnorton @ waterdowngardens @ zacheverett @lindaeverett


Originally Posted by dixiemafia
And they posted that as soon as the supposed hit happened, I'm not even sure they knew it was Pat right away and he/she has already posted that tweet in reply. Very interesting and could other heads roll?


This Twitter user posted her first tweet at 1:30 pm on Thursday, April 25. Pat Musitano was found shot and wounded shortly after 7:00 am that day (the call came in at 7:03 am). Media reports from around 9:50 am that day, such as from CHCH News in Hamilton, were already mentioning Musitano's name. (The reason the Peel Regional Police never confirmed his name is that it was not a homicide.)

Nevertheless, this person on Twitter does seem to have some intimate knowledge about the lawsuit. She has continued to tweet images mostly from legal documents, to wit:

https://twitter.com/Joclyn36115822/status/1121466497031970816

https://twitter.com/Joclyn36115822/status/1121755446266814464

https://twitter.com/Joclyn36115822/status/1122871336794247168

https://twitter.com/Joclyn36115822/status/1122871415328391168

I suspect that she or someone she knows has attended the legal proceedings.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 03:19 AM

Before the Musitanos fell

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-hamilton-spectator/20190429/281496457701764
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 07:24 AM

I believe Giuseppe Avignone is also marked and is the last major member in the Musitano crime family.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 12:21 PM

A Canadian murder. 'Buffalo's crime family.' Is the Mafia still around?

https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/30/in-canada-the-buffalo-mob-is-viewed-as-alive-and-well/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
The informant also indicated that there had to be at least 50 members per locale.

Other sources report that there are 9 locale in Ontario. Some even go as far as reporting that there may be one locale in Montreal.


Ciment,

There is a serious definitional problem with respect to the term locale used to denote a unit of the 'ndrangheta operating outside Italy.

Various authorities in Italy -- individuals who work in government, law enforcement, and justice -- have unfortunately not realized that, in interviews and public statements, they 1) offer different assessments of the number of locali in Canada (Ontario specifically) and 2) hold different views about what constitutes a locale, whether we are talking about the number of members or the number of 'ndrine operating in a territory. These authorities really should coordinate what they say in public and in writing.

By one definition, the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group in 2010 didn't even constitute a locale because, per phase 1 of the Il Crimine investigation, the crime group had only 43 inducted members.

Give me a day or so, and I'll cite the sources I've collected over the years to show the discrepancies. To start, below is a link to a reprint of an interview with Michele Prestipino, one-time chief prosecutor for Reggio Calabria, that indicates Toronto has one locale and Thunder Bay (a much, much smaller city than Toronto) also has one locale. I don't agree with this equivalence at all, but the confusion arises from the aforementioned definitional problem.

http://www.pinomasciari.it/?p=11376

This older interview also offers a different take on who was actually in charge of the Siderno Group in the GTA back in 2011 despite the fact that the 2010 Il Crimine investigation named seven leaders who were considered to be on the camera di controllo, or commissione.
Posted By: Mooney

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
I believe Giuseppe Avignone is also marked and is the last major member in the Musitano crime family.



Giuseppe Avignone is related to the Musitano family right? I thought I read somewhere that he is a nephew of Anthony and Dominc. I am assuming Anthony and Dominic had a sister maybe? That's her kid? Think Giuseppe goes by the name Pino.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 03:29 PM

Yes him and Pasquale are cousins. The Avignones are also a 'ndrina, originally from Taurianova ( Reggio Calabria).
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Yes him and Pasquale are cousins. The Avignones are also a 'ndrina, originally from Taurianova ( Reggio Calabria).


And how exactly do you know that brothers Pat, Angelo, and Dominic Jr., as well as sister Carmelina, are Pino Avignone's first cousins?

This is how Dominic Musitano Sr.'s newspaper obituary reads near the beginning: "Dear father and father-in-law of Pino and Anna Avignone...." Link to my Evernote item is below, and the item has a PDF of the newspaper obituary.

Dominic Musitano Sr.'s newspaper obituary

Usually, Avignone has been variously described in books and newspaper articles as the adopted brother of Pat, Angelo, Dominic Jr., and Carmelina or as a stepbrother. Stephen Schneider, who wrote Iced: The Story of Organized Crime in Canada, went with the available conflicting information that was out there and decided that Avignone was Dominic Sr.'s nephew. Why does the obituary list Avignone as a surviving family member before the four aforementioned sons and daughter of Dominic Sr. and Carmelina Alampi? The obituary does not make reference to Pino as a stepson.

Looking up surnames of 'ndrangheta members in Italy isn't going to help you figure out a puzzle that only people close to the Musitanos here in Ontario know the answer to; I certainly have no idea what the true relationship is between Avignone and the Musitanos.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 06:24 PM

Anti, in the Sixth Family they said Pat and his cousin, Giuseppe “Pino” Avignone, had a lengthy meeting with Vito Rizzuto in Woodbridge in '97.
Posted By: DanD

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 06:33 PM

From Today's Buffalo News:

A Canadian murder. 'Buffalo's crime family.' Is the Mafia still around?

https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/30/in-canada-the-buffalo-mob-is-viewed-as-alive-and-well/

Lots of info (some we've already read) from Edwards, Manning and Todaro's lawyer

Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Ciment
The informant also indicated that there had to be at least 50 members per locale.

Other sources report that there are 9 locale in Ontario. Some even go as far as reporting that there may be one locale in Montreal.


Ciment,

There is a serious definitional problem with respect to the term locale used to denote a unit of the 'ndrangheta operating outside Italy.

Various authorities in Italy -- individuals who work in government, law enforcement, and justice -- have unfortunately not realized that, in interviews and public statements, they 1) offer different assessments of the number of locali in Canada (Ontario specifically) and 2) hold different views about what constitutes a locale, whether we are talking about the number of members or the number of 'ndrine operating in a territory. These authorities really should coordinate what they say in public and in writing.

By one definition, the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group in 2010 didn't even constitute a locale because, per phase 1 of the Il Crimine investigation, the crime group had only 43 inducted members.

Give me a day or so, and I'll cite the sources I've collected over the years to show the discrepancies. To start, below is a link to a reprint of an interview with Michele Prestipino, one-time chief prosecutor for Reggio Calabria, that indicates Toronto has one locale and Thunder Bay (a much, much smaller city than Toronto) also has one locale. I don't agree with this equivalence at all, but the confusion arises from the aforementioned definitional problem.

http://www.pinomasciari.it/?p=11376

This older interview also offers a different take on who was actually in charge of the Siderno Group in the GTA back in 2011 despite the fact that the 2010 Il Crimine investigation named seven leaders who were considered to be on the camera di controllo, or commissione.


I see what you mean. The following Italian article refers to Toronto as having a locale and same for Thunder Bay. It gets to be confusing.

http://www.strill.it/citta/reggio/2...nternazionale-41-orinanze-di-custodia-2/

Michele Prestipino also says that Carmine Verduci, resident in the York Region, considered the head of the "local" in Toronto.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Anti, in the Sixth Family they said Pat and his cousin, Giuseppe “Pino” Avignone, had a lengthy meeting with Vito Rizzuto in Woodbridge in '97.


Well, this relationship keeps being repeated in books and articles. I wish a more definitive account would come out.

Even an article published today mentions that Avignone is the nephew of brothers Dominic Musitano Sr. and Tony Musitano.

Drug trafficking: How the RCMP busted a Hamilton pharmacy

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9309442-drug-trafficking-how-the-rcmp-busted-a-hamilton-pharmacy
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 09:34 PM

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ngs-of-ndrangheta-organized-crime-group/

Antimafia,

This article defines cells as locale .

Toronto court hears testimony on inner workings of ‘Ndrangheta organized crime group
For the past week, Carmine Guido has testified in detail that he was deeply involved in fraud, drug trafficking and enforcement in a local ‘Ndrangheta cell under Giuseppe (Pino) Ursino, 64, of Bradford.

In one intercepted conversation, Ursino told Guido: "Money's not everything."

The jury heard from Guido and Piccoli's report that there are two basic grades of membership: major and minor.

Piccoli said different ranks of the 'Ndrangheta range from "picciotto" at the low end of "The Societara Minore," or lower level group, to "Mammasantissima" and "Cavalairi di Cristo" in the "Societa Maggiore," or higher level group.

Cells are called "locali" or "locale" and must have at least 50 members, Piccoli said


It also states:

"Was he (Verduci) a member of 'Ndrangheta?," Streeter asked.

"Yes," Guido replied, adding that Verduci had been on the local board of control.


The Italian article refers Verduci as the Head of the locale and Guido the informant refers to him as a member of the local board control.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 10:07 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mob-war-theories-abound-on-musitano-powerplay

MOB WAR: Theories abound on Musitano powerplay
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 10:14 PM

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9309442-drug-trafficking-how-the-rcmp-busted-a-hamilton-pharmacy/

Drug trafficking: How the RCMP busted a Hamilton pharmacy
Allegations involve cheque scams, six-figure wire transfers, a $600,000 property in the Bahamas and a player with ties to the Hamilton mafia
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 04/30/19 11:45 PM

These Canadians are insane. LE there need help! The amount of murders is crazy. In the future they’ll be looking back at this time period as a historic mafia war
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 02:45 AM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thun...ia-links-faces-prison-in-italy-1.1335488

Antimafia you are correct, here is another example in relation to locales and their quoting Gratteri:

Nicola Gratteri, the chief anti-Mafia prosecutor in Calabria, said the ‘Ndrangheta is the only Mafia that is present on all continents.

"I think the foreign country where the ‘Ndrangheta is the most present is in Canada," he said.

"Mostly in Ontario, especially Toronto, and also in Montreal," Gratteri added. "We have found in our research there are at least nine ‘Ndrangheta localis just in Toronto. Which means there are hundreds of members, as each locali has at least 51 members."
Posted By: m2w

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thun...ia-links-faces-prison-in-italy-1.1335488
"Mostly in Ontario, especially Toronto, and also in Montreal," Gratteri added. "We have found in our research there are at least nine ‘Ndrangheta localis just in Toronto. Which means there are hundreds of members, as each locali has at least 51 members."[/i]


the 50 members rule is applied in calabria only, in north italy and abroad usually locali are smaller
gratteri probably misunderstood a wiretaps where a member in canada said 'nine of us' meaning not the locali numbers but the members
obviously there is no way there are 9 locali with hundreds members, maybe 1 or 2 at most
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
These Canadians are insane. LE there need help! The amount of murders is crazy. In the future they’ll be looking back at this time period as a historic mafia war


In 2015 they were on the brink of a mob war, according to wiretaps recorded in Italy. Leader Vincenzo Crupi talked extensively about the drug trade and a power struggle with the Mafia in Canada. It seems Crupi was right.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Any one know musitanos status? Is he still alive? And who is left of his crime family? Does he have enough man power to start sending retaliatory hits?


Giuseppe Avignone, Tony Lavarone, Gino Colamartini, Nick Toriello, Angelo Kirkopoulos, Angelo Natale, I can't think of anyone else. There really is not much left of the family as members are too old, or just switched sides.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Any one know musitanos status? Is he still alive? And who is left of his crime family? Does he have enough man power to start sending retaliatory hits?


Giuseppe Avignone, Tony Lavarone, Gino Colamartini, Nick Toriello, Angelo Kirkopoulos, Angelo Natale, I can't think of anyone else. There really is not much left of the family as members are too old, or just switched sides.



Thanks for the info
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 02:25 PM

Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano expected to survive Mississauga shooting

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...xpected-to-survive-mississauga-shooting/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/01/19 07:22 PM

^^^^
Mobster Pat Musitano expected to survive multiple shooting

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/pat-musitano-1.5118664
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/03/19 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by antimafia
Yet another theory emerges as to why Musitano was shot.

The mobster, the fraudster and the $110-million-a-month construction business: The story of a Hamilton company’s alleged scam

A company with ties to a local mobster and convicted fraudster is alleged to have perpetrated a multimillion-dollar scam that has resulted in tattered lives and lawsuits across the Hamilton area


Link:

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ry-of-a-hamilton-company-s-alleged-scam/

Web Archive link in case you hit a paywall:

Web Archive link


There will be many theories, the Musitano's seemed to have made many of enemies over the years.


Ontario investigating allegations of contaminated soil dumping at Waterdown Garden Supplies property.
Residents around the site have been threatened for speaking out, says neighbour Jim Whelan. “It’s gotten totally out of hand.”


https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...g-at-waterdown-garden-supplies-property/

Web Archive link (in case you hit a paywall):

Web Archive link

-------------------

Hard to believe that three decades later, Pat Musitano is still involved in the illegal dumping of tires.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/03/19 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Yes him and Pasquale are cousins. The Avignones are also a 'ndrina, originally from Taurianova ( Reggio Calabria).


And how exactly do you know that brothers Pat, Angelo, and Dominic Jr., as well as sister Carmelina, are Pino Avignone's first cousins?

This is how Dominic Musitano Sr.'s newspaper obituary reads near the beginning: "Dear father and father-in-law of Pino and Anna Avignone...." Link to my Evernote item is below, and the item has a PDF of the newspaper obituary.

Dominic Musitano Sr.'s newspaper obituary

Usually, Avignone has been variously described in books and newspaper articles as the adopted brother of Pat, Angelo, Dominic Jr., and Carmelina or as a stepbrother. Stephen Schneider, who wrote Iced: The Story of Organized Crime in Canada, went with the available conflicting information that was out there and decided that Avignone was Dominic Sr.'s nephew. Why does the obituary list Avignone as a surviving family member before the four aforementioned sons and daughter of Dominic Sr. and Carmelina Alampi? The obituary does not make reference to Pino as a stepson.

Looking up surnames of 'ndrangheta members in Italy isn't going to help you figure out a puzzle that only people close to the Musitanos here in Ontario know the answer to; I certainly have no idea what the true relationship is between Avignone and the Musitanos.


Here is another, if you google Project Scopa Hamilton, you will get as an image one of those police charts titled Project Scopa. They show Avignone as being the "stepbrother" of Pat Musitano.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/03/19 10:58 PM

^^^^
Yup. Exactly.

Links:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=928495

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUQTGTnX4AYtHAg.jpg

Barbara Brown, who at one time was the justice reporter for the Hamilton Spectator, referred to Pat Musitano as "a close friend of Avignone's" in her October 28, 1999 article about Avignone.

I also recall an article in which Dominic Musitano Sr. was said to have five children (not four, as many of us assume) -- presumably, Avignone would be the first child that Musitano Sr. sired.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/05/19 12:27 PM

http://wiseguy.overblog.com/2019/05...-par-les-familles-de-la-cosa-nostra.html

THE ASSASSINATION OF A MAFIEUX CHIEF OF ONTARIO SPONSORED BY THE FAMILIES OF COSA NOSTRA?
May 4, 2019 , Written by Xav Posted in #Bonanno, #Buffalo , #Rizzuto

Pat Musitano
Pat Musitano
On April 25, Pat "Fat Pat" Musitano, leader of a mafia faction affiliated with the Ndranghetta based in Hamilton, Ontario, was murdered in front of his lawyer's office. Given the current tensions and especially in the Ontario region, or three mafia factions, Luppino, Papalia and Musitano are fighting over this territory, one could think that a war between faction is currently held for a single purpose , take power. But because of recent arrests in the Buffalo family, including Giuseppe Violi and his brother Domenico who went into exile in Hamilton after the murder of their father Paolo, the question everyone faces is "The families of Cosa Nostra can they be behind this assassination? ". The first, who would have refused an enthronement in the Bonanno family, is currently serving a sixteen-year prison sentence for trafficking in cocaine and fentanyl following Operation 'Otremens'. The second, freshly named Buffalo family's Underboss, was arrested in a joint operation by the FBI and the RCMP, the Canadian police, with charges that eventually led to the recording by a government informant. Soldier of the Bonanno family, Vincent Morena. The most likely scenario would be that families Luppino and Papalia, rivals of the Musitano family and affiliated with families of the Cosa Nostra, would be the cause of this assassination. A theory more than likely, but the order to perform Pat Musitano would have come from New York? of the Bonanno family? who has always had a pied-à-terre in Canada or the Buffalo family? Back to back In September 2017, Vincent Morena, who had decided to collaborate with the authorities after an arrest for cocaine trafficking, was inducted into the Bonanno family. That day, on Canadian territory, the Captain Damiano Zummo unintentionally initiated a government informant into the ranks of the Bonanno family. The ceremony itself was rather anecdotal, far from the rites of enthronement desired and desired by this criminal organization. But having become a Cosa Nostra Soldier, Vincent Morena had an easy access to other members that was much easier, the gangsters revealing themselves more easily to a member of their organization, than to a simple Associate. These recordings were of capital importance to the American and Canadian authorities, who quickly realized that Buffalo's family, whom she thought was dead, was still active and worse, had grown stronger. Quickly, Vincent Morena asked Domenico Violi about the current situation of the Musitano family or a few months ago, Angelo Musitano had been shot in front of his home. Domenico Violi certified that the murder of Angelo Musitano was a "message for Pat", to show him that now, his days were numbered. He added at the same time, "before Christmas," Pat Musitano would be "gone," implied, to be murdered. These recordings proved to the authorities that the Bonanno family had a rather special relationship with the family of Buffalo, now run by Joseph Todaro Jr. So even though he fiercely defends himself to be the Godfather of a Cosa Nostra family , it is clear that the Buffalo family has always had very close ties with the Luppino family and it is possible that it would have helped the latter to plant the last nails in the coffin of the Musitano family. The Bonanno family, meanwhile, has always had historic ties to Canada, especially with the Rizzuto family, or its former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto was an inductee member of the Bonanno. Since, his influence on this territory has certainly diminished, but an enthronement of a member of the Bonanno family on Canadian soil could demonstrate later that the Bonanno want to contribute to the reconstruction of some business, supporting this time members of factions affiliated with Ndrangheta. always had historical ties with Canada, especially with the Rizzuto family, or his former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto was an inductee member of the Bonanno. Since, his influence on this territory has certainly diminished, but an enthronement of a member of the Bonanno family on Canadian soil could demonstrate later that the Bonanno want to contribute to the reconstruction of some business, supporting this time members of factions affiliated with Ndrangheta. always had historical ties with Canada, especially with the Rizzuto family, or his former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto was an inductee member of the Bonanno. Since, his influence on this territory has certainly diminished, but an enthronement of a member of the Bonanno family on Canadian soil could demonstrate later that the Bonanno want to contribute to the reconstruction of some business, supporting this time members of factions affiliated with Ndrangheta.
Posted By: spartan

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/05/19 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
http://wiseguy.overblog.com/2019/05...-par-les-familles-de-la-cosa-nostra.html

THE ASSASSINATION OF A MAFIEUX CHIEF OF ONTARIO SPONSORED BY THE FAMILIES OF COSA NOSTRA?
May 4, 2019 , Written by Xav Posted in #Bonanno, #Buffalo , #Rizzuto

Pat Musitano
Pat Musitano
On April 25, Pat "Fat Pat" Musitano, leader of a mafia faction affiliated with the Ndranghetta based in Hamilton, Ontario, was murdered in front of his lawyer's office. Given the current tensions and especially in the Ontario region, or three mafia factions, Luppino, Papalia and Musitano are fighting over this territory, one could think that a war between faction is currently held for a single purpose , take power. But because of recent arrests in the Buffalo family, including Giuseppe Violi and his brother Domenico who went into exile in Hamilton after the murder of their father Paolo, the question everyone faces is "The families of Cosa Nostra can they be behind this assassination? ". The first, who would have refused an enthronement in the Bonanno family, is currently serving a sixteen-year prison sentence for trafficking in cocaine and fentanyl following Operation 'Otremens'. The second, freshly named Buffalo family's Underboss, was arrested in a joint operation by the FBI and the RCMP, the Canadian police, with charges that eventually led to the recording by a government informant. Soldier of the Bonanno family, Vincent Morena. The most likely scenario would be that families Luppino and Papalia, rivals of the Musitano family and affiliated with families of the Cosa Nostra, would be the cause of this assassination. A theory more than likely, but the order to perform Pat Musitano would have come from New York? of the Bonanno family? who has always had a pied-à-terre in Canada or the Buffalo family? Back to back In September 2017, Vincent Morena, who had decided to collaborate with the authorities after an arrest for cocaine trafficking, was inducted into the Bonanno family. That day, on Canadian territory, the Captain Damiano Zummo unintentionally initiated a government informant into the ranks of the Bonanno family. The ceremony itself was rather anecdotal, far from the rites of enthronement desired and desired by this criminal organization. But having become a Cosa Nostra Soldier, Vincent Morena had an easy access to other members that was much easier, the gangsters revealing themselves more easily to a member of their organization, than to a simple Associate. These recordings were of capital importance to the American and Canadian authorities, who quickly realized that Buffalo's family, whom she thought was dead, was still active and worse, had grown stronger. Quickly, Vincent Morena asked Domenico Violi about the current situation of the Musitano family or a few months ago, Angelo Musitano had been shot in front of his home. Domenico Violi certified that the murder of Angelo Musitano was a "message for Pat", to show him that now, his days were numbered. He added at the same time, "before Christmas," Pat Musitano would be "gone," implied, to be murdered. These recordings proved to the authorities that the Bonanno family had a rather special relationship with the family of Buffalo, now run by Joseph Todaro Jr. So even though he fiercely defends himself to be the Godfather of a Cosa Nostra family , it is clear that the Buffalo family has always had very close ties with the Luppino family and it is possible that it would have helped the latter to plant the last nails in the coffin of the Musitano family. The Bonanno family, meanwhile, has always had historic ties to Canada, especially with the Rizzuto family, or its former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto was an inductee member of the Bonanno. Since, his influence on this territory has certainly diminished, but an enthronement of a member of the Bonanno family on Canadian soil could demonstrate later that the Bonanno want to contribute to the reconstruction of some business, supporting this time members of factions affiliated with Ndrangheta. always had historical ties with Canada, especially with the Rizzuto family, or his former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto was an inductee member of the Bonanno. Since, his influence on this territory has certainly diminished, but an enthronement of a member of the Bonanno family on Canadian soil could demonstrate later that the Bonanno want to contribute to the reconstruction of some business, supporting this time members of factions affiliated with Ndrangheta. always had historical ties with Canada, especially with the Rizzuto family, or his former Godfather, Vito Rizzuto was an inductee member of the Bonanno. Since, his influence on this territory has certainly diminished, but an enthronement of a member of the Bonanno family on Canadian soil could demonstrate later that the Bonanno want to contribute to the reconstruction of some business, supporting this time members of factions affiliated with Ndrangheta.



He died?
Posted By: Mooney

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/05/19 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by spartan


He died?


No, Pat is in stable condition and expected to survive.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/05/19 07:33 PM

He is still alive.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/05/19 11:13 PM

The Bonanno induction in Canada shows the NYC family is still involved over there.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/05/19 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
The Bonanno induction in Canada shows the NYC family is still involved over there.


I agree with you but there’s still A LOT of people that will disagree with that statement. I think it’s crazy how many conflicting statements there are about the buffalo mob. Some people say they are calling shots in this war and others say that they don’t exist. I’d love to know what’s really going on but I’m sure we won’t know any time soon.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:26 AM

It's pretty obvious Buffalo still is connected to Buffalo the Violi tapes made that very clear. As far as the Bonanno family running Montreal that one is not happening Montreal is all over the place the Bonanno family would not even know who to talk to anymore.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:36 AM

The bonnanos contacts/people in Montreal are the cotroni faction and arcuri bros. I don’t know how much influence people in New York have in this, other than they are closely monitoring the situation. However, the aforementioned people are still “with” the Bonannos
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:42 AM

Yep not sure pal the Cotroni faction is so small they got swallowed up by the Rizzutos along time ago. When Frank took over which was along time ago they were nothing. They came to Toronto to try to take over some rackets and got the boot so fast they don't know what hit them.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:47 AM

The cotroni extended family is big, they still have a good group of them left and they are closely allied with the violis. The remaining violis in Montreal are with them/bonnanos, while the violis in Hamilton are Buffalo/Luppino. Obviously if they try shit in Toronto they get their shots but they’re base is still in Montreal.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:53 AM

You got a point.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:56 AM

NYC is in control of the American families NJ Philly New England Buffalo.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 01:58 AM

I know not convinced they have influence here.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 02:09 AM

From what I know nyc has some influence in Ontario and Montreal (most Bonanno and Gambino) but not enough to really call any shots.
Posted By: spartan

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/06/19 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Mooney

Originally Posted by spartan


He died?


No, Pat is in stable condition and expected to survive.



I know he didn't die. But the bull shit I was responding to said he was "assassinated" and "murdered".
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/08/19 08:53 PM

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...released-from-hospital-after-being-shot/

Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano released from hospital after being shot

The 51-year-old was shot multiple times in a Mississauga parking lot April 25
NEWS 01:26 PM by Nicole O'Reilly The Hamilton Spectator

Hamilton mobster Pasquale (Pat) Musitano (left) has been released from hospital after being shot multiple times in an attempt on his life in Mississauga nearly two weeks ago. He’s pictured here in a Spectator file photo with his borther, Angelo. - Hamilton Spectator file photo
Hamilton mobster Pasquale (Pat) Musitano has been released from hospital after being shot multiple times in an attempt on his life in Mississauga nearly two weeks ago.
The 51-year-old was hit as many as four times, including to the head, around 7 a.m. on April 25 outside 120 Matheson Blvd. E., where he had just left a meeting with his lawyer Joseph Irving. The lawyer was acting for Musitano in connection with a paving and construction company allegedly involved in a multimillion-dollar scam.
While Musitano was initially rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries, Peel police said last week the 51-year-old man had improved and was expected to survive.
The Spectator has learned he was released from hospital on Friday, May 3.
Six things to know about the shooting of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano
In this file photo from Jan. 14, 1998, Pat Musitano, 30, right, leaves Provincial Court with his brother Angelo, 20, behind him| Spectator file photo
Just like when his younger brother Angelo Musitano was gunned down in his Waterdown driveway May 2, 2017 , and when Pat Musitano's own St. Clair Boulevard home was sprayed with bullets weeks later, the family is not co-operating with police.
It remains unclear what Musitano's recovery will look like and whether this shooting will spur more mafia violence amid a resurgence of mob shootings in the Hamilton area. Also unclear is what power he still holds in the criminal underworld and who remains loyal to the traditional organized crime family.
Mob, Murder and the Hamilton Connection



14 Chesapeake Dr., where Angelo Musitano was gunned down May 2, 2017| Spectator file photo
Since the shooting, there have been rumours and speculation swirling about what Musitano was up to in the days before his shooting, and what actually happened in the Mississauga parking lot.
The Spectator has learned through police sources that he was not wearing a bulletproof vest when he was shot (as has been rumoured).
At the shooting scene, Musitano's black GMC Denali was seen parked just outside the door of the law office, with a flat tire and pool of blood beside it. Sources tell the Spectator the vehicle was armoured. The vehicle was towed for forensic examination.
And while Pat Musitano may have been taking more precautions since his brother's murder, he was not in hiding, as some have suggested, including in wiretap conversations recorded as part of the prosecution against Domenico (Dom) Violi and Giuseppe (Joey) Violi. Musitano was living in Hamilton, but whether he will continue to after being shot is not clear.
Here's how a wiretap recorded a conversation talking about getting rid of Pat Musitano
In this photo from Dec. 1, 1998, a Hamilton Wentworth Regional Police special constable opens the back of the paddy wagon for Pasquale (Pat) Musitano | XSpectator file photo
That Pat Musitano was shot was not surprising to mafia watchers, given the ongoing violence and conversations captured on the Violi wiretaps where getting rid of Musitano was said to be impending. Since Angelo Musitano's death, there have been several other mafia-related murders and crimes in Hamilton, including the shooting deaths of Albert Iavarone and Cece Luppino.
Last week, police revealed that a home invasion in April 2018 was actually an attempted murder at the home of mobster Natale Luppino.
All three killed were seen as less powerful men whose murders were, perhaps, meant to send a message to the more commanding criminals in their families.
Angelo Musitano had reportedly found God and was raising a young family. Albert Iavarone was the younger brother of Tony Iavarone. And Cece Luppino, son of mobster Rocco Luppino, had, at least in 2015, rejected being "made."
No one has been charged in the attempt on Pat Musitano's life or in the murders of Iavarone and Luppino. However, three face first degree murder charges in the shooting death of Angelo Musitano and another botched mob hit in Vaughan that saw innocent bystander Mila Barberi killed.
Jabril Abdalla, who is accused of taking part in the sophisticated surveillance leading up to the murders, is the only man behind bars. He's seeking bail.
His co-accused, Michael Cudmore of Hamilton (the alleged gunman) and Daniel Tomassetti of Ancaster, fled to Mexico and are wanted on international warrants.
The attempt on Pat Musitano's life came a day after the funeral for his uncle Tony Musitano, a former Hamilton mobster who said he retired and died of natural causes at 72. The Spectator and other media has reported Pat was not seen at the funeral, however, a police source says it's now believed he was there.
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Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/08/19 09:19 PM

Wonder where he is going to hide out wont be here in Hamilton that's for sure.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/08/19 09:20 PM

The article Ciment posted two posts back was a lot more informative than the one to which I've linked below.

Mobster Pat Musitano released from hospital after shooting

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/pat-musitano-1.5127998
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 12:31 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/reputed-mob-chief-pat-musitano-leaves-hospital

Reputed mob chief Pat Musitano leaves hospital
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Wonder where he is going to hide out wont be here in Hamilton that's for sure.


He won't be so lucky the next time, we have seen hits in Mexico, Sicily, DR where should he go?
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 04:37 PM

Not sure where he should go and to be honest it looks good on him that he hiding like a rat now. His brother Ang and him and some if their cousins are all assholes, especially when they were younger always going out looking to start shit and then starting you know who I am freaking bullies. Where as the Luppino family Cece and other cousins were gentleman never starting shit and using their name to intimidate. As for the Papalias either then John because he was a mean prick but Rocco was good and Frank was a super.nice guy. I went to school with one of Frank's grandkids what a good family. So all in all the Musitano family is getting what they deserve being bullied for a change.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 08:01 PM

If it were me, I’d send a messenger to the other side telling them that I’m stepping down and that they can have my rackets, and that I wouldn’t retaliate. Then, move away from Ontario.

But, that’s just me if I was actually trying to walk away from the life and not get clipped. To his enemies, it’s probably not worth hitting a guy who’s walking away without a fight.

But, with these Italians in Canada they’re on some old school shit, like it’s Sicily in the 80’s or New York in the 70s... everyone is getting clipped just to be safe.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Not sure where he should go and to be honest it looks good on him that he hiding like a rat now. His brother Ang and him and some if their cousins are all assholes, especially when they were younger always going out looking to start shit and then starting you know who I am freaking bullies. Where as the Luppino family Cece and other cousins were gentleman never starting shit and using their name to intimidate. As for the Papalias either then John because he was a mean prick but Rocco was good and Frank was a super.nice guy. I went to school with one of Frank's grandkids what a good family. So all in all the Musitano family is getting what they deserve being bullied for a change.


Great info Scalish!
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Stubbs

But, with these Italians in Canada they’re on some old school shit, like it’s Sicily in the 80’s or New York in the 70s... everyone is getting clipped just to be safe.


Or like Chicago back in the days. They got so many of their own whacked for minor screw-ups or the faintest fear of indictment that there's only about a 100 of them left nowadays lol
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Scalish
Not sure where he should go and to be honest it looks good on him that he hiding like a rat now. His brother Ang and him and some if their cousins are all assholes, especially when they were younger always going out looking to start shit and then starting you know who I am freaking bullies. Where as the Luppino family Cece and other cousins were gentleman never starting shit and using their name to intimidate. As for the Papalias either then John because he was a mean prick but Rocco was good and Frank was a super.nice guy. I went to school with one of Frank's grandkids what a good family. So all in all the Musitano family is getting what they deserve being bullied for a change.


Thanks the Musitanos have always been a second-tier gang for a reason.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 11:43 PM

Yep they have no class never have.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/09/19 11:47 PM

I know no one here either then their family cares about what is going with the family, I know tons of people here feel the same way looks good on them. I remember the article after Ang got killed and they said he was out of the life and found religion yeh right what a joke alot people here found that hilarious. He found God.my ass he was doing the same shit he always had been doing he was not killed.because.he was.a.saint that's for sure.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 02:17 AM

Whatever you say about the musitanos, they made a lot of money and commanded a lot of respect and power with a small group. They are basically the underdogs.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 02:20 AM

Not anymore pal they ain't shit now.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 02:37 AM

Notice how I said “made” indicating past tense. Read things more closely before making juvenile responses, I think that will help you in other situations as well “pal”.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 02:48 AM

Buddy I understood what you said and I am far from juvenile I have been on this sight for years without any issue so please let's not go there. It just seemed like you wanted someone on here to agree with you and praise what those scumbags have done.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 01:49 PM

Maybe that’s how you interpreted it, not how it was meant. I love how you use words like buddy or pal, what are you gonna call me next, guy?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 01:56 PM

https://aboutthemafia.com/pat-musitano-survived-but-can-the-musitano-crime-family-do-the-same

Pat Musitano survived but can the Musitano crime family do the same?
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 01:57 PM

I was raised saying bro, buddy, pal when I call someone that it is a good thing. If I was trying to insult you it would not be hard to figure out, anyway I am done with the back and forth with you take care.
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 02:16 PM

Fair enough, take care.
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 02:28 PM

Thanks.
Posted By: southend

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
If it were me, I’d send a messenger to the other side telling them that I’m stepping down and that they can have my rackets, and that I wouldn’t retaliate. Then, move away from Ontario.


That would just cause your own crew who are not leaving the life to feel like whacking you for handing your rackets over to the enemy instead of your own guys. Poorly thought out exit strategy
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 03:37 PM

This shit is too deep I don’t see pat going out that easy...he seems like he’s true to the code the only thing probably on his mind right now is who he’s going to hit next
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 05:04 PM

I don't think Pat will be on the attack, he does not have much to attack with pretty sure whoever is left around him are looking over bith shoulders. If I were Pat I would go somewhere real far and odd because he stays around here he will probably be dead by the end of summer.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/10/19 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scalish
I don't think Pat will be on the attack, he does not have much to attack with pretty sure whoever is left around him are looking over bith shoulders. If I were Pat I would go somewhere real far and odd because he stays around here he will probably be dead by the end of summer.

i doubt there is a safe place to hide, they are capable to carry out murders basically everywhere... i bet big joey cuntrera is hiding in venezuela
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/15/19 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
If it were me, I’d send a messenger to the other side telling them that I’m stepping down and that they can have my rackets, and that I wouldn’t retaliate. Then, move away from Ontario.

But, that’s just me if I was actually trying to walk away from the life and not get clipped. To his enemies, it’s probably not worth hitting a guy who’s walking away without a fight.

But, with these Italians in Canada they’re on some old school shit, like it’s Sicily in the 80’s or New York in the 70s... everyone is getting clipped just to be safe.


But they don't think like we do (meaning outsiders, non "family" members etc.). These folks killed his brother and have went after him more than once now even shooting up his house with his family inside. If that doesn't drive you to revenge then you're for sure dead like someone mentioned above about Pat not even trying to retaliate with this. If he's going to cower and hide then he might as well flip, otherwise he's a dead man walking if he doesn't even try to fight back.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/15/19 11:17 PM

Hamilton area MP calls for RCMP to investigate contaminated soil dumping case

https://globalnews.ca/news/5281452/hamilton-area-mp-rcmp-soil-dumping/
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/16/19 12:02 AM

Wonder what will come out of this?
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/16/19 09:56 PM

"Seven things to know about the mob and Musitanos in Hamilton"

Web Archive link
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/16/19 10:11 PM

^^^^
Nicole O'Reilly's article mentions a Giuseppe Capobianco being stabbled in uncle Natale Luppino's home last August -- this is the first we're learning about this, unless she confused August 2018 with April 2018.

Vincenzo "Cece" Luppino's obituary indicates he is a nephew to Diane and Joe Capobianco.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/16/19 11:32 PM

I had an exchange with Nicole O'Reilly on Twitter, and she will have the article revised to show that the date of the attempted murder of Giuseppe Capobianco was in April of last year.

https://twitter.com/NicoleatTheSpec/status/1129157897898930177
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/16/19 11:40 PM

If the Rizzutos could come back after nearly all their top brass being whacked I wouldn’t put it past the Musitanos to make a comeback in some shape or form. Canadian oc is so interesting and volatile. It’s like the us oc 30/40 years ago
Posted By: Scalish

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/17/19 12:15 AM

Musitano's were not even close to the Rizzuto's as far as power Nick Sr. And Vito had way more power nf influence. They did however manage to sustain a okay relationship with the Rizzutos.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 05/25/19 11:25 AM

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...of-mobster-angelo-musitano-denied-bail/?

Man charged in murder of mobster Angelo Musitano denied bail
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/13/19 08:45 PM

Six new charges against Steve Sardinha, the Hamilton man behind Havana Group Supplies Inc.

https://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/n...ton-man-behind-havana-group-supplies-inc
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/14/19 01:55 PM

^^^^
Niagara police charge two men in ongoing theft, fraud investigation near St. Catharines

https://globalnews.ca/news/5387582/niagara-police-theft-fraud-charges-st-catharines/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/14/19 02:55 PM

^^^^
Theft - Fraud and Theft Investigation Leads to Arrest – Update 1

https://www.niagarapolice.ca/en/news/index.aspx?newsId=b18382cb-64a9-4623-80c7-40071e93f452
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/17/19 05:57 PM

Wasn't sure in which thread to dump the article link farther below. Paul Manning called it here:

https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/status/1140314968325349376

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Man shot at Stoney Creek townhouse known associate of the Musitano crime family

Web Archive link
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/17/19 06:11 PM

^^^^
Man wounded in shooting a reputed Musitano associate
https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/man-wounded-in-shooting-a-reputed-musitano-associate/

Man gunned down in Stoney Creek tied to organized crime, sources say
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/shooting-1.5178459

Stoney Creek man shot multiple times in ‘targeted and specific attack’
https://go.shr.lc/2WQ7Rqf
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/18/19 02:28 PM

^^^^
Motive unclear in shooting of man with ties to organized crime

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ing-of-man-with-ties-to-organized-crime/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/27/19 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
^^^^
Theft - Fraud and Theft Investigation Leads to Arrest – Update 1

https://www.niagarapolice.ca/en/news/index.aspx?newsId=b18382cb-64a9-4623-80c7-40071e93f452


Theft - Fraud and Theft Investigation Leads to Arrests – Update 2

https://www.niagarapolice.ca/en/news/index.aspx?newsId=a620b56b-4314-4865-8831-5519a11f3291
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 06/28/19 04:22 AM

^^^^
Niagara police arrest 3rd man in ongoing theft, fraud investigation near St. Catharines

https://globalnews.ca/news/5438338/...theft-fraud-investigation-st-catharines/
Posted By: DanD

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 01:57 PM

Quote
@HamiltonPolice investigating a wrong way head on collision outside the Musitano home on St Clair Boulevard. Police say several suspects fled the area after the collision, they are investigating if it has any relation to the Musitano family.
@HPSCanine in the area #HamOnt


https://twitter.com/ACollinsPhoto/status/1153438571061268481?s=20
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 03:43 PM

^^^^
Two-car crash on St. Clair Blvd. in front of Musitano home

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9515014-two-car-crash-on-st-clair-blvd-in-front-of-musitano-home/
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 05:12 PM

^^^^
Paul Manning on Twitter:

Paul Manning @mobinfiltrator

Yep...Quebec plates on one of those cars apparently.
1:05 PM · Jul 23, 2019


https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/status/1153712635948539904?s=20
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 07:28 PM

^^^^
Police investigating mob ties to collision outside Musitano home

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...-ties-to-collision-outside-musitano-home
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 08:03 PM

^^^^
UPDATE: Motor Vehicle Collision on St. Clair Boulevard

http://hamiltonpolice.on.ca/news/update-motor-vehicle-collision-on-st-clair-boulevard/

CASE NUMBER 19-684069
Hamilton, Ontario, 23 July 2019

As reported yesterday, a motor vehicle collision between a Buick Lacrosse and Mercedes C300 occurred around 4:30 p.m. on St. Clair Boulevard between Cumberland Avenue and Delaware Avenue.

The 76-year-old driver of the Buick was transported to hospital by ambulance with minor injuries. The occupants of the Mercedes were seen fleeing on foot, northbound on St. Clair and then westbound on Delaware. A third male, who was either in the Mercedes or who ran from the area of 206 St. Clair, also fled northbound.

The investigation was initially handled by the Division 10 Criminal Investigation Branch but has since been taken over by members of the Major Crime Unit and Intelligence Unit. This was due to the injured male parking in the driveway of Pat Musitano at the time when he appeared to have been spooked by an observation. This caused the Buick to leave the driveway suddenly, in a dangerous manner and resulted in it colliding head-on with the southbound Mercedes.

The driver of the Buick has not cooperated with the investigators.

The three males connected to the Mercedes are described as black and between 25 to 30-years.-of-age. Two are described as being approximately 6 feet tall, with an athletic build and one was initially wearing a mask. The other male was carrying a bag that was retrieved from the Mercedes. The third male was described as being shorter and stockier than the other two.

Video surveillance from the area shows the males removing their initial clothing at various times as they made their way eventually to the area of Holton Avenue and King Street East.

The Mercedes was from the Montreal area. A male identifying himself as the owner of the Mercedes later contacted police to report the accident. The male owner eventually attended Central Police Station around 2.40 a.m. this morning at which time he was arrested for the Failing to Remain at the Scene of an Accident and as a result of ongoing investigations involving the Musitano Family, Conspiracy to Commit Murder. He was interviewed for several hours and remained uncooperative. He was eventually released unconditionally as currently there is insufficient evidence to proceed with criminal charges.

Police continue to investigate the incident and the search for further video surveillance in the expanded area is ongoing.

If you have any information that you believe could assist Police with the investigation into this case you are asked to contact Detective Sergeant Peter Thom by calling 905-546-2458.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 09:46 PM

Someone fucked up
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/23/19 11:47 PM

Police investigating crash outside home of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/musitano-crash-mercedes-1.5222260
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/24/19 03:02 AM

Hamilton police say crash in front of Musitano home may have mob connection

https://globalnews.ca/news/5674129/hamilton-police-crash-musitano-home/
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/24/19 10:07 AM

It won't be too long before we hear more about the Montreal connection.
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/24/19 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
It won't be too long before we hear more about the Montreal connection.


Wonder who’s sending these guys
Posted By: DanD

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/24/19 05:39 PM

Was head-on crash a murder attempt on Musitano 'associate'?

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...mp;utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563988520
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/25/19 10:43 AM

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...s-criminels-du-quebec-et-de-lontario.php

A new incident earlier this week in Hamilton, a suburb of Toronto, reinforces the hypothesis of some collaboration between Ontario and Quebec mafia clans.

At approximately 4:30 pm Monday, a Mercedes carrying three individuals circulated on St. Clair Boulevard, in front of Pat Musitano's residence, a prominent Ontario Mafia clan leader - formerly linked to the Sicilians - who escaped a spectacular murder attempt last April.

Presumably worried about the passing of this suspicious vehicle, a 76-year-old man, who was in a Buick car parked in the entrance to Mr. Musitano's residence, pressed the accelerator and hit.

As a result of the impact, the three occupants of the Mercedes, one of whom was wearing a mask, fled on foot while removing clothes, leaving their vehicle behind. The septuagenarian who was driving the Buick was slightly injured. He refused to collaborate with the investigators.

Later, an individual describing himself as the owner of the Mercedes introduced himself to the police. He was arrested and charged with conspiracy for murder and leaving the scene of an accident.

We do not know for the moment the identity of the man who is 25 years old, lives in the Saint-Hubert borough in Longueuil and has no criminal record in Quebec.

The young man was not very cooperative and was released under conditions, pending further proceedings. It has also been established that the Mercedes vehicle comes from the Saint-Hubert borough.

The Hamilton police are investigating this case, which appears to show links or, at the very least, a new exchange of services between criminal groups in Ontario and Quebec.

Québec labor force

This is at least the fourth event in two years in which an Ontario criminal is targeted and where the suspects have a connection with Quebec.

The police observed suspects aboard a car registered in Quebec before Angelo Musitano, brother of Pat, was murdered on May 2, 2017.

On January 30, the nephew of former Montreal Mafia boss Paolo Violi, Cece Luppino, was murdered at his home in Hamilton by a suspect whom the police believe to be a Quebecker.

In recent months, four Montrealers have been arrested and charged with the murder of Michael Deabaitua-Schulde, a 32-year-old Hells Angel who was killed on March 11 when he was leaving a Mississauga training room.

A source told La Presse that the use of Quebeckers for settling accounts in Ontario could mean a rapprochement between criminal groups of the two provinces and aim to confuse the tracks by using the labor of a province. other province.

Several murders or attempted murders have occurred recently in organized crime in Ontario. Sources mention a power struggle between mafia clans and a conflict in the sports betting world.

Towards new tensions?

The large-scale Sindicato operation last week by York police against the Figliomeni clan, one of the largest in Ontario, could cause further tension.

Hamilton police say the three black suspects on board the Mercedes were hit in front of Pat Musitano's residence on Monday, aged between 25 and 30 years. Two of them are about 6 feet tall and are described as having an athletic body.
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/25/19 06:57 PM

MOB MUDDLING: 'Incompetent hit team' fails to ice Musitano again

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...nt-hit-team-fails-to-ice-musitano-again/
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/25/19 09:55 PM

So let me get this straight pat has a 76 year old bodyguard/driver lol this old dude must be a savage
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/26/19 12:19 PM

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...-musitano-s-house-/#.XTrfNVRf3N4.twitter

What clues were left in car hit in front of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano’s house?
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/26/19 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
So let me get this straight pat has a 76 year old bodyguard/driver lol this old dude must be a savage


He got the job done.......... lol
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/26/19 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ciment
Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
So let me get this straight pat has a 76 year old bodyguard/driver lol this old dude must be a savage


He got the job done.......... lol



Lmao yes he did
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/26/19 05:13 PM

Damn first the old guy shows he's a boss by hitting the Mercedes and then Fat Pat shows up at the hospital to see him. Crazy bastards up there!
Posted By: JoeTadaro

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/26/19 05:45 PM

It really is a whole different breed up there I love it
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/26/19 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Damn first the old guy shows he's a boss by hitting the Mercedes and then Fat Pat shows up at the hospital to see him. Crazy bastards up there!


And not one shot was fired......LOL
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/27/19 03:02 AM

The mobster next door: How do you sell your home when you live next to Pat Musitano?

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ome-when-you-live-next-to-pat-musitano-/
Posted By: Ciment

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 07/27/19 09:06 PM

https://torontosun.com/news/local-n...usitano-hit-teams-mercedes-for-new-clues

Cops scour suspected Musitano hit team's Mercedes for new clues
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 08/14/19 02:56 AM

Home of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano hits the market

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9548334-home-of-hamilton-mobster-pat-musitano-hits-the-market
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 08/14/19 07:00 PM

^^^^
Want to live in the home owned by Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano? It's up for sale

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-home-pat-musitano-sale-mobster-family-1.5246480
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/21/19 01:26 PM

Fall of the House of Musitano (Dive Bar) w/ James Dubro
Murder Was The Case

Organized crime expert and author James Dubro unveils the bloody history belying a recent rash of mafia assassinations and attempted murders in the Greater Toronto/Hamilton area. Replete with tales of bllundering hitmen and crumbling criminal dynasties.

https://podcasts.apple.com/bz/podca...james-dubro/id1327969221?i=1000456961187
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/21/19 07:44 PM

The guy giving the interview seems to know his stuff, never knew Pasquale was so hated. I have heard from multiple people that people where considering murdering Angelo Musitano in Spring 2014
Part about Montreal being Ndrangheta because Contronis are Calabrese, not the most accurate
LCN was/is made up of predominantly southern Italian heritage, Naples, Calabria, Bari and Sicily

All the business as of 1931ish no matter where you’re from was considered LCN, wasn’t really until late 50’s that the Woodbridge really separated itself as a quasi independent from LCN, Ndrangheta which exist today

Very cool listen, thanks for sharing
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/21/19 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by MolochioInduced

Part about Montreal being Ndrangheta because Contronis are Calabrese, not the most accurate
LCN was/is made up of predominantly southern Italian heritage, Naples, Calabria, Bari and Sicily


Cotroni and Violi were part of cosa nostra, but also rooted in the 'ndrangheta like Angelo Musitano, aka "Beast of Delianova".
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/21/19 11:07 PM

Awesome that confirms some stuff, really cool
Paul Kelly aka Paola Vaccarelli was one of the guys that survived to be around when LCN 5 Families was finalized and he was from Naples, hooked up with the Cammora big time prior to 1931
Posted By: antimafia

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/22/19 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced

Part about Montreal being Ndrangheta because Contronis are Calabrese, not the most accurate
LCN was/is made up of predominantly southern Italian heritage, Naples, Calabria, Bari and Sicily


Cotroni and Violi were part of cosa nostra, but also rooted in the 'ndrangheta like Angelo Musitano, aka "Beast of Delianova".


There has never been any evidence that Nicodemo Cotrone -- father of Vincenzo (Vic), Giuseppe (Pep), Frank Sr. (Santos), et al. -- was part of the Picciotteria or l'Onorata società, let alone had 'ndrangheta roots. Vic Cotroni most definitely came into contact with 'ndrangheta members after being inducted into the American La Cosa Nostra in the 1950s -- who knows whether he had contact before then? -- and he even permitted a small group of 'ndranghetisti in Montreal to conduct their meetings in at least one of his establishments.

One of Pep Cotroni's drivers, Domenico Torrente, was very likely an 'ndrangheta member affiliated with the Siderno Group in Toronto, but this doesn't mean Pep was a member of the 'ndrangheta or had 'ndrangheta roots. If Cotrones had early and then enduring influence in the locale or 'ndrina in Mammola, the name of a Cotrone clan would have appeared in print at some point over the last seven decades, let's say, in Italian-language newspaper articles, books, anti-ndrangheta investigations, arrest warrants, etc. But such a clan has not, whereas the Callà clan and Macrì clan have.

Paolo Violi had deep, extensive connections to the 'ndrangheta. An 'ndrangheta expert like Antonio Nicaso knows this but is always careful in his articles and books to identify Violi as a made member of the Bonanno Family who was an acting captain. Why does Nicaso do so? Because he and we don't know if and when Violi and his brothers were inducted into the 'ndrangheta. On the other hand, we know, for example, that 'ndrangheta member Vincenzo Melia, who had connections to Montreal over the course of at least 30 years, was inducted in Calabria in 1962. He might have been one of the earliest 'ndrangheta members to move to Quebec and live there for some time, although it should be noted that a number of such members also spent time living in various cities in Connecticut and/or Toronto.

One of the younger individuals charged in Project Colisée in November 2006 was likely a member of the small 'ndrangheta group in Quebec that appears to have roots in the province going back to the 1960s. But to no one's surprise, he was working in concert with people considered to be in the orbit of the Montreal Mafia.

Domenico Musitano Sr.'s uncle Angelo, the so-called Beast of Delianuova, was very likely an 'ndrangheta member. There seems to be evidence that Musitano Sr. and brother Tony were also 'ndrangheta members, but we don't have evidence that Musitano Sr.'s sons -- Pat, the murdered Angelo, and Domenico Jr. -- are/were members of this secret society.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/22/19 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced

Part about Montreal being Ndrangheta because Contronis are Calabrese, not the most accurate
LCN was/is made up of predominantly southern Italian heritage, Naples, Calabria, Bari and Sicily


Cotroni and Violi were part of cosa nostra, but also rooted in the 'ndrangheta like Angelo Musitano, aka "Beast of Delianova".


There has never been any evidence that Nicodemo Cotrone -- father of Vincenzo (Vic), Giuseppe (Pep), Frank Sr. (Santos), et al. -- was part of the Picciotteria or l'Onorata società, let alone had 'ndrangheta roots. Vic Cotroni most definitely came into contact with 'ndrangheta members after being inducted into the American La Cosa Nostra in the 1950s -- who knows whether he had contact before then? -- and he even permitted a small group of 'ndranghetisti in Montreal to conduct their meetings in at least one of his establishments.

One of Pep Cotroni's drivers, Domenico Torrente, was very likely an 'ndrangheta member affiliated with the Siderno Group in Toronto, but this doesn't mean Pep was a member of the 'ndrangheta or had 'ndrangheta roots. If Cotrones had early and then enduring influence in the locale or 'ndrina in Mammola, the name of a Cotrone clan would have appeared in print at some point over the last seven decades, let's say, in Italian-language newspaper articles, books, anti-ndrangheta investigations, arrest warrants, etc. But such a clan has not, whereas the Callà clan and Macrì clan have.

Paolo Violi had deep, extensive connections to the 'ndrangheta. An 'ndrangheta expert like Antonio Nicaso knows this but is always careful in his articles and books to identify Violi as a made member of the Bonanno Family who was an acting captain. Why does Nicaso do so? Because he and we don't know if and when Violi and his brothers were inducted into the 'ndrangheta. On the other hand, we know, for example, that 'ndrangheta member Vincenzo Melia, who had connections to Montreal over the course of at least 30 years, was inducted in Calabria in 1962. He might have been one of the earliest 'ndrangheta members to move to Quebec and live there for some time, although it should be noted that a number of such members also spent time living in various cities in Connecticut and/or Toronto.

One of the younger individuals charged in Project Colisée in November 2006 was likely a member of the small 'ndrangheta group in Quebec that appears to have roots in the province going back to the 1960s. But to no one's surprise, he was working in concert with people considered to be in the orbit of the Montreal Mafia.

Domenico Musitano Sr.'s uncle Angelo, the so-called Beast of Delianuova, was very likely an 'ndrangheta member. There seems to be evidence that Musitano Sr. and brother Tony were also 'ndrangheta members, but we don't have evidence that Musitano Sr.'s sons -- Pat, the murdered Angelo, and Domenico Jr. -- are/were members of this secret society.


Thanks for taking the time to inform us, it's true that the Cotroni brothers seem to have had very few ties to Calabria in the early years, but later they developed ties to both sicilian and calabrian clans like Lo Presti, Mazzaferro, Aquino, Inzerillo, Gambino, Zito, Tripodo.
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Pat Musitano shot west of Toronto - 11/22/19 02:37 PM

I agree the information is top notch, thanks. Basically I feel from observations and talk that if you’re/were south Italian, more than likely you had a home grown system for these businesses and a shared reason to participate. In foreign lands whatever home grown system (ie. Cosa Nostra, Cammora. Ndrangheta etc) you originally got trained in you put it aside, partially to become LCN at the time, and only North America, the rest of the planet you maintained the home grown system in it’s totality.
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