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Italian 41 bis prison regime

Posted By: Hollander

Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 08:36 AM

Currently there are 752 prisoners in Italian prisons under the 41 bis regime. Compared to the criminal organization to which they belong, 263 prisoners refer to the Camorra, 231 to Cosa Nostra, 202 to the 'Ndrangheta, 21 to the Sacra Corona Unita, the rest to other mafias.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 10:36 AM

Interesting,i thought the number is much less than 700.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Strax
Interesting,i thought the number is much less than 700.


It´s only used against the most dangerous guys, bosses and killers.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Strax
Interesting,i thought the number is much less than 700.


It´s only used against the most dangerous guys, bosses and killers.


Yes i know,thats why i thought number will be lower than 700.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 01:07 PM

95% belong to the Big Three. Didn't expect to see SCN getting dwarfed to this extent. Almost seems like they're small time compared to the others.
Camorra is huge and at their worst they're nearing Cartel-levels of brutality. No surprise that they got the biggest amount of members under this regime.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 01:11 PM

Yeah but I bet there will be more SCU in 41 bis in the future considering how violent they act in recent years.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 04:26 PM

The SCU and the other oc groups from Apulia are more violent but less know respect the mafia or the camorra.I'm trying to find a list of the criminals that was part of big three and get the 41 bis.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 05:32 PM

The prisons with the highest number of inmates under 41 bis are L'Aquila in Abruzzo region (166), Milan/Opera (94) and Sassari on Sardinia (91).
Posted By: doggystyle

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 11:15 PM

How is the 41 bis compared to the supermax prison in Colorado for example`?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/05/19 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by doggystyle
How is the 41 bis compared to the supermax prison in Colorado for example`?


Probably pretty similar. Here in Holland we have one prison with hard regime. It´s solitary confinement very little contact with other inmates. During a regular visit there is always a glass wall between the visitor and the prisoner.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/06/19 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by doggystyle
How is the 41 bis compared to the supermax prison in Colorado for example`?


Yes,is almost the same thing and exist a "41 bis special" where the inmates stay in cells located underground, without widows,without air hours, monitored 24h and without the possibility of having contact with the outside if not in rare cases and without the possibility of having even a book.
Posted By: doggystyle

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/06/19 04:25 PM

I remember i read that Paolo Di Lauro told them he didnt want to talk to anyone outside, he didnt want no hours in the yard or nothing just to show them he dont give a fuck about how hard the 41 bis is, he is harder. I will try to find the article.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/06/19 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by doggystyle
I remember i read that Paolo Di Lauro told them he didnt want to talk to anyone outside, he didnt want no hours in the yard or nothing just to show them he dont give a fuck about how hard the 41 bis is, he is harder. I will try to find the article.


Another article say that DiLauro are acting like a crazy for get out of 41 bis.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/06/19 05:15 PM

In June 2002, some 300 Mafia prisoners declared a hunger strike, calling for an end to the isolation conditions and objecting to parliament's Antimafia Commission proposal to extend the measure. Apart from refusing prison food, the inmates had been constantly banging the metalwork of their cells.[8][9][10] After the protest began in Marina Picena prison in central Italy – the prison's inmates include Salvatore Riina, the reputed "boss of bosses" – it spread rapidly across the country, in spite of inmates supposedly having no way to contact one another. Mobsters of different ranks in eight prisons had joined.

The European Court of Human Rights and others have been very critical about 41 bis and similar hard regimes.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/06/19 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
In June 2002, some 300 Mafia prisoners declared a hunger strike, calling for an end to the isolation conditions and objecting to parliament's Antimafia Commission proposal to extend the measure. Apart from refusing prison food, the inmates had been constantly banging the metalwork of their cells.[8][9][10] After the protest began in Marina Picena prison in central Italy – the prison's inmates include Salvatore Riina, the reputed "boss of bosses" – it spread rapidly across the country, in spite of inmates supposedly having no way to contact one another. Mobsters of different ranks in eight prisons had joined.

The European Court of Human RightsEuropea and others have been very critical about 41 bis and similar hard regimes.


No offence for the European Court of Human Rights but here in italy 3 province are deviare by the mafia;other countries can understand,why the rights of 700 criminals are best that the milions that was/are and will be damage by this criminals organizations?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 04/08/19 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
95% belong to the Big Three. Didn't expect to see SCN getting dwarfed to this extent. Almost seems like they're small time compared to the others.
Camorra is huge and at their worst they're nearing Cartel-levels of brutality. No surprise that they got the biggest amount of members under this regime.


sacra corona unita is considered weaker and less rooted, that's because it has less members under 41 bis
it's also by far the youngest, formed only in the late 1970s, sicilian mafia and camorra in the early 1800, being currently the oldest criminal groups worldwide, ndrangheta in the late 1800
Posted By: Immortale

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 09/06/19 07:01 AM

Why is it considered weak to have less members incarcerated under the bis 41 regime? Wouldn't you say the less members are in, the more lowkey the organization in question is?

EDIT: Sorry for the bump, but I found this an interesting read.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 09/06/19 08:05 AM

people under 41 bis are the most dangerous in prison because belong to mafia-type organizations, sacra corona unita are less than others because it's weaker and most of its members are in ordinary prisons... there is not low-key matter in these days, police knows perfectly everywhere and who is the most dangerous to put under 41-bis
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian 41 bis prison regime - 09/06/19 09:37 AM

That reminds me of the story of Armando Libergolis, a member of the SCU, condemned to serve twenty-five years of maximum security by Article 41 bis. He managed to get his seminal fluid to cross the boundary walls of the prison and reach a laboratory for analysis and the operation was carried out without problems. The future mother is the wife of the prisoner, Maria Riccardo. They were accused of having defrauded Agea, the Agricultural Dispensing Agency. Instead they won a victory that recognizes the right to paternity.
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