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Posted By: mikeyballs211

Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/22/19 12:23 PM

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-metro-zancocchio-prosecutor-misconduct-20190121-story.html

I know Lovaglio was involved in Joeys trial and has been snitching for a few years now.. do we know what crew he was acting capo for prior to this?

Unrelated question, did Ronnie G’s case and Joe C’s ever get sentenced or are they ongoing?... Bonnanos def had a resurgence only to have like 5 upper management including admins get pinched... Anyone know when Mancuso is out?
Posted By: Slimshady

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/22/19 04:07 PM

To answer ur second question, ronnie g pleaded guilty and got 14 years. Joe c is out on bail and might go on trial. Mike mancuso is currently in a halfway house in Brooklyn.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/22/19 09:09 PM

this is shady as fuck this case will be resolved with some joey merlino 24 month type pleas or less. i read he was a capo. kinda wonder when he was inducted. he was a union rep in the 90tys at a young age. and when your in a union young like 30tys means he was related to someone big in brooklyn. he had a big asbestos company or was the lightning rod. he went to prison for a few yrs. so hes from brooklyn atleast back in the 90tys so im assuming hes from anthony speros camp. which was huge. or tg graziano. he was a CI from 2014 till he was jailed in 2016. he was driving rabito and chilli to meeting he got everyone jammed up on parole violations. he was a detriment to the merlino case, maybe the reason he beat the health care charges
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/22/19 09:58 PM

the feds and nypd must have a rocky relationship. this rat pete lovaglio is suing the nypd and the fbi helping him build the case. this is 2 yrs after 2 colombo members who killed a nypd cop and both got time served after admitting to assassinating ralph dols to impress the bosses. no one but them have been convicted. that is the biggest cop killing i ever read about swept under a rug. there some black panther who been i jail 40yrs and trying to get parole the whole department comes out against it and not one peep about multi murders like big dino calabro getting time served/ crazy double standard even the press let it go
Posted By: Slimshady

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/23/19 04:47 PM

Wheres ur source about the colombo mobsters killing the cop just to impress bosses?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/23/19 05:22 PM

My interpretation. Joel waverly was found not guilty tommy shots not guilty so what other reason could it be? The shooter and get away driver are free. Not a peep from the police union
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/23/19 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Slimshady
Wheres ur source about the colombo mobsters killing the cop just to impress bosses?


Joel Cacace killed the cop Ralph Dol because married his former wife.
Posted By: Slimshady

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/23/19 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
My interpretation. Joel waverly was found not guilty tommy shots not guilty so what other reason could it be? The shooter and get away driver are free. Not a peep from the police union

But ur saying ur interpretation like its fact. And why would dino colabro and joey caves kill a cop just to impress the bosses? That’s completely illogical. The killing was def ordered joel waverly and tommy shots. Joel waverly wanted the cop dead cuz he married his ex wife.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/24/19 12:26 AM

i dont believe anyone in the colombo family orderd dols murder. allie boy is taking over the family in 1997 trying to induct new guys and get a vote on the commission. joel waverly and tommy shots wouldnt fuck it up after all the scarpa trials. so they must have did it on there own imo. and thats a fact jack
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/25/19 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by Slimshady
Mike mancuso is currently in a halfway house in Brooklyn.


I read in the Bronx, apparently he is all over the Internet and talking to the guys in his Pelham Bay neighborhood.
"reminding people who is in charge"
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/28/19 12:36 PM

This bonanno case must be a clusterfuck. Im over on the post who stink but they wrote a article saying someone flipped and had been going to the defense meetings to spy for the feds and they want the case thrownout. Guess it goes to trial next month should be interesting none theless. Is it me or the lawyers in nyc starting to get better in the rico trials or the feds just throwing together weaker cases without a murder charge at the top which makes everyone plead out or rat
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/29/19 12:18 AM

Bonanno’s are going to lose everything if this case is true ..... the other families and made guys are out looking to snatch up what they can .

It will never be the same for them ...... Just like if the Feds ever find someone to flip on Philly murders the entire top 7 are gone .
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 01/30/19 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
i dont believe anyone in the colombo family orderd dols murder. allie boy is taking over the family in 1997 trying to induct new guys and get a vote on the commission. joel waverly and tommy shots wouldnt fuck it up after all the scarpa trials. so they must have did it on there own imo. and thats a fact jack


Kill a cop and risk that heat with out approval they could of all been marked for that.

If N.Y.P.D. or feds knew for sure this was an O.C. hit they would have pounced on all the 5 families.

When GUS FARACE got whacked DEA agent, they (FEDS, NYPD, DEA ) came down on everyone so bad they (5 Families) had to whack GUS FARACE.
The Lucheese solider that hid Farace got whacked, The trigger man who killed Farace, Tuzzio got whacked.

My point is MAJOR MAJOR SHIT STORM!!!

No way anyone would do this with out approval or perceived approval, and what was the motive for the killing?

Calabro and Caves both flipped and they hate each other and the both have the same story and the C.I. that was recording them David Gordan a childhood friend as well had the same story.

Joe caves ended up getting 12 years and Calabro got 11 years. They should both be home now.

Caves is Ballsy enough to come back to Bensonhurst one day if he has not already
Posted By: Kingscounty

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/13/19 06:14 PM

Bensonhurst, you always post good stuff. I feel like your probably a little older then me but we may have been born and raised in the same neck of the woods.

I gotta say Joey would have the balls to go back but there’s nothing to go back too. Even the old Italian ladies store on 20th and 73rd is owned and has been by Chinese for about 10 years now. His parents sold their building about 15 years ago. I spent a lot of my childhood in that building.

Joey was a fucking psycho and I don’t condone anything he did especially beating his own mother. With that said as a scrawny kid growing up Joey for whatever reason looked out for me. Maybe it’s because I looked out for his special need brother. I dunno?
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/14/19 02:03 PM

Thank YOU, KINGS....

I can tell your from the old neighborhood...

Your right about everything you said...

It is soooo sad I go back to the old neighborhood and think about what was and what is today and it is depressing...

Where you from??? 20th Ave, B.P.B. ? K.H.B. ???

I cant reveal too much because for as dead as all this LCN, stuff is, for the handful of shooters left, if they found out I am posting, they would consider this dry snitching...

Caves, would police the neighborhood, if he found out you ratted he would come and stick a knife in ur stomach, he did that to Vito Amato from 18th ave, And if he found out you were around when a fight happened and you didn't get involved he would again come and look to stick a knife in ur gut, he did that to John Eve, who was his boy at the time from BPB....

That is to name just two of as long list...

After all he did he was like the RAT SQUAD....

And LIL DINO, got FUCT so bad...

1) His older cousin ratted.
2) His older brother ratted.
3) One of his best friends Dave Gordon ratted.
4) He goes on to beat the Murder charge, and because the tape that Gordan, made got 50 YEARS....
5) Tommy McLaughlin ratted.
6) Anthony Basile ratted.
7) Two of the Bath Ave Crew, ratted.

If he would have flipped who could blame him?

He was left holding the bag for just about everyone.

I am not condoning what he did, and I am not judging him either..

A jury of his peers found him NOT GUILTY...
Posted By: DuesPaid

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/14/19 03:40 PM

Keep it coming , good stuff.

I wonder if the Zuco's are still around McDonald Ave.
I wonder if anyone is still around there.
Posted By: Kingscounty

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/14/19 03:53 PM

Holy shit I forgot BPB! Wow! Yea those guys were teens then. I was close with Caves because of his little brother being special needs. I’d get into a lot of fights with kids trying to abuse him. Strange enough caves didn’t care if people did but I think he liked that I stood up for the kid.

We moved around a lot my dad may he Rest In Peace was a bad addict and my mom never went to his family for help. But basically my younger years were spent on 73rd and 20th in caves building. And 85th and 20th was also where my roots are from. You probably know my father and that whole side. I also have family from bath ave.

The whole neighborhood is gone. We finally sold the house on 85th. I’m upstate now away from it all.

Your right some people would consider being on here fucked up but then again who’s left? I lurked here forever then started seeing your post and I had join to give you a thumbs up!

Sorry for getting off topic guys.

A side note little Dino picked me up and started choking me for calling him a fag when I was a kid. Caves grabbed and said you better be careful his father side is full nuts. He said there from 20th and 85th with Joey man. That ended that little tiff.
Posted By: Kingscounty

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/14/19 03:56 PM

Another funny story about Caves he shot crackhead in the ass on our block. He wrote crack house on the Tony’s house where they were slinging crack for years. I remember a guy getting thrown off Tony’s roof!
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/15/19 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by DuesPaid
Keep it coming , good stuff.

I wonder if the Zuco's are still around McDonald Ave.
I wonder if anyone is still around there.


The TRIPPIE"s are still around
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/16/19 01:27 AM

over on capecis site. another bonnano soldier fliped. some guy thomas carrube aka sharkey lol. he bought his button a few yrs back for 10k but only gave his sponcer 5k up front and owed the rest. he was tape recording people in 2016 2017 and they kinda were suspecious..... fucking crazy storys out of that family. there rico trial starts next week
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/16/19 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Slimshady
Mike mancuso is currently in a halfway house in Brooklyn.


I read in the Bronx, apparently he is all over the Internet and talking to the guys in his Pelham Bay neighborhood.
"reminding people who is in charge"


Where did you read all that?
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/16/19 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kingscounty
Holy shit I forgot BPB! Wow! Yea those guys were teens then. I was close with Caves because of his little brother being special needs. I’d get into a lot of fights with kids trying to abuse him. Strange enough caves didn’t care if people did but I think he liked that I stood up for the kid.

We moved around a lot my dad may he Rest In Peace was a bad addict and my mom never went to his family for help. But basically my younger years were spent on 73rd and 20th in caves building. And 85th and 20th was also where my roots are from. You probably know my father and that whole side. I also have family from bath ave.

The whole neighborhood is gone. We finally sold the house on 85th. I’m upstate now away from it all.

Your right some people would consider being on here fucked up but then again who’s left? I lurked here forever then started seeing your post and I had join to give you a thumbs up!

Sorry for getting off topic guys.

A side note little Dino picked me up and started choking me for calling him a fag when I was a kid. Caves grabbed and said you better be careful his father side is full nuts. He said there from 20th and 85th

with Joey man. That ended that little tiff.


Sorry to hear about your pop that must have been tuff.

I hung out on 18th & 81th Street
Right where Caves, Girl & Daughter lived with her brother C.T.


In the park where, Louie Tuzzio, M.G. and J.F.G. whacked out GUS FARACE...

I went to high school with LIL.
I had my own issues with LIL's brother Frankie, over a girl and Dino Calabro's LIL brother at the 20th feast.
Yes they were all NUTS

Caves gave you good advice to be careful.

I cant believe they whacked out Greaves
They were all do close.
That's why that life wasn't for me the whole whacking your best friend thing was a sticking point.

Some guys left they are all underground at this point.
No more in your face with Sergio Tacchini's jogging suits basically advertising for all to see I am a WISEGUY or I want to be a WISEGUY..,.

P.M. me your dads name if you would like
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/16/19 01:23 PM

anyone thinking since the family elected porky zanococchio as consig his father inlaw tg graziano was exceepted back into the family. his daughter arnt on tv anymore, hes probaly pulling the strings. elder statemen. hes what 78. he was consig before now his son inlaw is. thats no coincidence. the family must have known well will put porky there and he can just ask his pops for the answers nut hes still on the sidelines
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/16/19 01:31 PM

bensunhusrt what gieoli and lil dino pulled off in that trial was a mafia miracle they beat like 8 murders. then tommy shots gets 18 yrs for stolen fur coats. i forgot what dino was convicted for but like you said he got 40 50. they had public lawyers to. tommy shots thanks his lawyer all the time and his stock took off. i belive hes a go to guy now $$$. all the shooters of the nyc cop are all free and you dont hear a peep from the police union in the press. but some old black guy who was the getaway driver in harlem 50 yrs ago when a cop was killed the whole precint shows up to the parole hearing to oppose. guess that cop should have never dated joel waverlys ex chick. he gets zero sympathy. did they give that cop a park bench or anything in brooklyn?
Posted By: Kingscounty

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/17/19 01:33 AM

I think I pm’d you. I dunno I’m new so hopefully did it right.

I agree pmac it’s kinda crazy how that all went down.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/20/19 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
bensunhusrt what gieoli and lil dino pulled off in that trial was a mafia miracle they beat like 8 murders. then tommy shots gets 18 yrs for stolen fur coats. i forgot what dino was convicted for but like you said he got 40 50. they had public lawyers to. tommy shots thanks his lawyer all the time and his stock took off. i belive hes a go to guy now $$$. all the shooters of the nyc cop are all free and you dont hear a peep from the police union in the press. but some old black guy who was the getaway driver in harlem 50 yrs ago when a cop was killed the whole precint shows up to the parole hearing to oppose. guess that cop should have never dated joel waverlys ex chick. he gets zero sympathy. did they give that cop a park bench or anything in brooklyn?


I agree with everything you said maybe because they were found not guilty for the murders they couldn't protest it.
How the hell did they beat those murders? You had guys in on them testifying and neither Caves or Calabro are/were junkies
It must have been a real SHITTY case the feds put together

In the end the feds won anyway which is B.S. because today the feds are doing it against guys in O.C, so nobody cares however, tomorrow it'll be someone's brother, cousin, sisters aunt etc., That will get off on a B.S. charge however, the GOVT will sentence them as if they were convicted than people will start to care, but it will be too late by then.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/20/19 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kingscounty
I think I pm’d you. I dunno I’m new so hopefully did it right.

I agree pmac it’s kinda crazy how that all went down.


Hey never got it I'll send you one and you can reply
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/20/19 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
anyone thinking since the family elected porky zanococchio as consig his father inlaw tg graziano was exceepted back into the family. his daughter arnt on tv anymore, hes probaly pulling the strings. elder statemen. hes what 78. he was consig before now his son inlaw is. thats no coincidence. the family must have known well will put porky there and he can just ask his pops for the answers nut hes still on the sidelines


He is GRAZIANO's son in law?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Bonnano Rats relationship w feds - 02/20/19 09:03 PM

yep one of his daughters that wasnt on tv was or is married to him. they were indicted together in the pete rose case . she was for tax evasion or something white collar. he took the time she got probation. tg brought him into the family. they make him the consig there basically putting tg there im guessing knowing there close
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