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Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Most intimidating gangsters - 01/14/19 10:21 PM

Who were the most intimidating mob guys? In America and overseas? I started talking about it on another thread but I wanted to give the conversation its own thread. Some guys that came up were Galante, Casso, Bruno Indelicato and Dellacroce.
Posted By: Zavattoni

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 12:22 AM

Charles Panarella was a pretty brutal guy. He had his own crew in the Colombo's. Many of his men complained to Persico on how aggressive he was towards them.

He was very intimidating and would walk the streets at night with bunch of his men. There was a taped conversation of Joel Cacace in 2001 saying that Panarella was old but could cut a ******* tongue out at any second.

He was responsible for murder of Mimi Scialo and also the murder of two of Scialo's guys who were shotgunned outside a bar.

He was definitely feared by many. Supposily Greg Scarpa was in his crew.
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 12:36 AM

Do you remember Charlie moose in that Las Vegas lawyers documentary (the one that came from philly). He came across like a nice old man. You wouldn’t guess he’s a stone cold gangster. Wasn’t he banished in the end by Carmine then returned to the fold eventually? Did Carmine use the fact he treated his guys badly as the main reason?
Posted By: Zavattoni

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
Do you remember Charlie moose in that Las Vegas lawyers documentary (the one that came from philly). He came across like a nice old man. You wouldn’t guess he’s a stone cold gangster. Wasn’t he banished in the end by Carmine then returned to the fold eventually? Did Carmine use the fact he treated his guys badly as the main reason?


I have never seen the documentary. Would love to see it. Yeah; He was banished by Carmine for being an aggressive and no non-sense capo. I may be wrong; But I think the other reason was; Carmine thought him and Sonny Franzese were trying to make an attempt to take over the Colombo's. Panarella eventually did get back in the fold and sided with Orena when the latter was trying to take control of the family.

Like I said; He was a pretty brutal guy.
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 01:10 AM

Interesting stuff zav.

And I think this is the doc - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S9Rif0uM

He also has an aggressive argument with a fed who was vexed that Oscar got the mobsters off charges in many occasions as he was such a good lawyer. He was tony Spilotro long term lawyer as well as Charlie moose and a ton of wiseguys
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 01:13 AM

Oh yeah he also became mayor of Vegas lol.

I like the guy. Only doing his job.
Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
Interesting stuff zav.

And I think this is the doc - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S9Rif0uM

He also has an aggressive argument with a fed who was vexed that Oscar got the mobsters off charges in many occasions as he was such a good lawyer. He was tony Spilotro long term lawyer as well as Charlie moose and a ton of wiseguys


I’ll have to watch it. I forgot to mention Gravano as well
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/15/19 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Zavattoni
Charles Panarella was a pretty brutal guy. He had his own crew in the Colombo's. Many of his men complained to Persico on how aggressive he was towards them.

He was very intimidating and would walk the streets at night with bunc id in the of his men. There was a taped conversation of Joel Cacace in 2001 saying that Panarella was old but could cut a **** tongue out at any second.

He was responsible for murder of Mimi Scialo and also the murder of two of Scialo's guys who were shotgunned outside a bar.

He was definitely feared by many. Supposily Greg Scarpa was in his crew.


He had a club on New Utrecht Ave, in Bensonhurst, I worked at a deli a few blocks away.

He was always fighting, arguing abusing someone. No one in the neighborhood really liked him. He was so NASTY.

One of my friends we were teenagers did something stupid outside his club he made such a big deal about it, that he had to go to his uncle who was Rudy Ferrone, from the Decav's had to go to Charlie's club and talk with him. Another time Charlie got into a shouting match with an associate from Teddy Persico's crew, the crew member was a SHOOTER, however, he had to stand there basically and get yelled at by Charlie, because he couldn't put his hands on a made guy or he was a dead man. Charlie used to keep his joker poker machines in the basement of the deli, one time the owner of the deli let con-ed in the basement to read the meters, WHOA did CHARLIE flip his CORK. " YOU DO NOT LET ANYONE IN, that is NOT your basement, that is MY BASEMENT"
Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/16/19 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Zavattoni
Charles Panarella was a pretty brutal guy. He had his own crew in the Colombo's. Many of his men complained to Persico on how aggressive he was towards them.

He was very intimidating and would walk the streets at night with bunc id in the of his men. There was a taped conversation of Joel Cacace in 2001 saying that Panarella was old but could cut a **** tongue out at any second.

He was responsible for murder of Mimi Scialo and also the murder of two of Scialo's guys who were shotgunned outside a bar.

He was definitely feared by many. Supposily Greg Scarpa was in his crew.


He had a club on New Utrecht Ave, in Bensonhurst, I worked at a deli a few blocks away.

He was always fighting, arguing abusing someone. No one in the neighborhood really liked him. He was so NASTY.

One of my friends we were teenagers did something stupid outside his club he made such a big deal about it, that he had to go to his uncle who was Rudy Ferrone, from the Decav's had to go to Charlie's club and talk with him. Another time Charlie got into a shouting match with an associate from Teddy Persico's crew, the crew member was a SHOOTER, however, he had to stand there basically and get yelled at by Charlie, because he couldn't put his hands on a made guy or he was a dead man. Charlie used to keep his joker poker machines in the basement of the deli, one time the owner of the deli let con-ed in the basement to read the meters, WHOA did CHARLIE flip his CORK. " YOU DO NOT LET ANYONE IN, that is NOT your basement, that is MY BASEMENT"


Sounds like a jerk. I’m sure he respected Ferrone though.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/18/19 06:28 PM

Yes even though he was only Decav, he got alot of respect.

I know he had a couple of bodies under his belt and it was k own I think that's why.
Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/18/19 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Yes even though he was only Decav, he got alot of respect.

I know he had a couple of bodies under his belt and it was k own I think that's why.


You’ve probably seen it all growing up in Bensonhurst
Posted By: majicrat

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/18/19 10:07 PM

Albert "High Lord Executioner" Anastasia, just by his nickname he's gotta be at the top. Ruthless, and in my opinion if anyone was close to having his type of psychopathic traits today there would be either a lot of dead turncoats or a lot less of them out of fear for their families and selves. #2, I'd say Vito Genovese. That's my two cents.
Posted By: matteodenaro

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/18/19 10:28 PM

Tommy Karate. Not only would he not hesitate to put a bullet in your head, and chop you up, he would kick your fucking ass.
Posted By: jackdempsey1930

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 07:52 AM

Jimmy Burke, Whitey Smith,
Posted By: Strax

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 12:58 PM

As i said before, Sicilian Mafia is much more brutal. Leoluca Bagarella is top spot for sure, he was involved in around 100-150 murders
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Filippo Marchese, he was running "Room of death" together with Bagarella.
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Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 01:06 PM

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Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Strax
As i said before, Sicilian Mafia is much more brutal. Leoluca Bagarella is top spot for sure, he was involved in around 100-150 murders
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Filippo Marchese, he was running "Room of death" together with Bagarella.
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I have heard this before. What about the Camorra and Ndrangheta as well? I have also heard that in Italy they earned more money too.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Revis_Island


I have heard this before. What about the Camorra and Ndrangheta as well? I have also heard that in Italy they earned more money too.


You can't really compare the money they earn, this is from Matteo Messina Denaro alone:

In January 2010, police seized construction companies, villas, shops and vehicles worth some 550 million euros from a western Sicilian construction magnate, Rosario Cascio, believed to be one of the main bankrollers and money launderers for Messina Denaro. Together with 700 million euros in assets taken from supermarket magnate Giuseppe Grigoli at the end of 2008 and 200 million euros from construction tycoon Francesco Pecora in November 2009.

In September 2010, police seized a record amount of assets worth 1.5 billion euros from a Sicilian businessman Vito Nicastri accused of working with Messina Denaro. He had invested in wind and solar energy sources, as a way of laundering money.

'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia have strong connections to masonic lodges, which helps them to infiltrate basically anything.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 04:27 PM

Vito Nicastri was arrested again in 2018, he was meeting with Antonino D'Ali J.He has been Senator from 1994 to 2018 , as well as Undersecretary of State of the Ministry of the Interior and president of the Province of Trapani . Antonio D'Alì Sr. was founder of biggest private bank in Sicily (Banco Sicula), his cousin Giacomo D’Alì is a counsellor of the Banca Commerciale Italiana in Milan, they were also members of P2 masonic lodge.
Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by Revis_Island


I have heard this before. What about the Camorra and Ndrangheta as well? I have also heard that in Italy they earned more money too.


You can't really compare the money they earn, this is from Matteo Messina Denaro alone:

In January 2010, police seized construction companies, villas, shops and vehicles worth some 550 million euros from a western Sicilian construction magnate, Rosario Cascio, believed to be one of the main bankrollers and money launderers for Messina Denaro. Together with 700 million euros in assets taken from supermarket magnate Giuseppe Grigoli at the end of 2008 and 200 million euros from construction tycoon Francesco Pecora in November 2009.

In September 2010, police seized a record amount of assets worth 1.5 billion euros from a Sicilian businessman Vito Nicastri accused of working with Messina Denaro. He had invested in wind and solar energy sources, as a way of laundering money.

'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia have strong connections to masonic lodges, which helps them to infiltrate basically anything.


It seems like the Italians really took over in the late 70s/early 80s as far as wealth and power. Prior to that, the Italian americas were on top. I’ve had this conversation with others on here. But who was a big earner within the Ndrangheta? They are so secretive that it’s hard to find much about their individual members online. I saw something about Ciccio Pesce and Antonio Pelle but idk if their level of wealth compares to Denaro’s
Posted By: Revis_Knicks

Re: Most intimidating gangsters - 01/19/19 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Strax
As i said before, Sicilian Mafia is much more brutal. Leoluca Bagarella is top spot for sure, he was involved in around 100-150 murders
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Filippo Marchese, he was running "Room of death" together with Bagarella.
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In terms of pure toughness though, let’s say if they fought one on one then I think I’d take the Americans just based on all of the great American fighters lol
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