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Posted By: Strax

Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/08/18 11:42 PM


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Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/08/18 11:49 PM

Vacari was saying that 'Ndrangheta was in San Francisco, in one of the west coast threads.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:20 AM

Is that pointing at Springfield, Missouri? Because the closest thing to the mafia there is the federal medical prison there where all the sick mobsters go to die, like Gotti, etc.
Posted By: Stubbs

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:23 AM

Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?
Posted By: Strax

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


Pretty new , around 2012.They are still present,most of them keep very low profile. When i find Australia , South America and EU maps i will post them. I have them somewhere on my old pc
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Vacari was saying that 'Ndrangheta was in San Francisco, in one of the west coast threads.


Yes the Giorgio Sale group cocaine traffickers.
Posted By: FrankValenti

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:40 AM

How are you gonna list Altoona, PA but not Buffalo, NY or Cleveland, OH? This map is very flawed, albeit detailed.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by FrankValenti
How are you gonna list Altoona, PA but not Buffalo, NY or Cleveland, OH? This map is very flawed, albeit detailed.


These are Italian/Sicilian based groups not Italian American.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 01:07 AM

Frank Cali's relatives the Inzerillos are also in Toronto.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
Is that pointing at Springfield, Missouri? Because the closest thing to the mafia there is the federal medical prison there where all the sick mobsters go to die, like Gotti, etc.


That's probably what they're talking about. Any Italian speakers here actually know if it says that? I'm sure they mean there's a presence in the prison there.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Is that pointing at Springfield, Missouri? Because the closest thing to the mafia there is the federal medical prison there where all the sick mobsters go to die, like Gotti, etc.


That's probably what they're talking about. Any Italian speakers here actually know if it says that? I'm sure they mean there's a presence in the prison there.


In Springfield prison died many mobsters like Corallo,Langella,Gotti ecc.
And anyway Strax,this are the maps that posted years ago and should be update.Iml'm trying to find more updated charts.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by FrankValenti
How are you gonna list Altoona, PA but not Buffalo, NY or Cleveland, OH? This map is very flawed, albeit detailed.


As Hollander said already,this is only Italian/Sicilian groups. I don't know for any 'Ndrangheta cells in Buffalo or Cleveland.
Posted By: Nitro

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 01:57 PM

You know something about Camorra / Licciardi clan - Chicago entry ?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Nitro
You know something about Camorra / Licciardi clan - Chicago entry ?


The son-in-law of Gennaro Licciardi and the Massa brothers are living in Chicago.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Nitro
You know something about Camorra / Licciardi clan - Chicago entry ?


The son-in-law of Gennaro Licciardi and the Massa brothers are living in Chicago.


Really? Do you refer to Gennaro Esposito? And who are this Massa brothers?
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/09/18 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Nitro
You know something about Camorra / Licciardi clan - Chicago entry ?


The son-in-law of Gennaro Licciardi and the Massa brothers are living in Chicago.


Really? Do you refer to Gennaro Esposito? And who are this Massa brothers?


No Mario Vittoriosi. Antonio and Carmine Massa have a few fashion stores in the city. All counterfeit ofcourse.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 08:15 AM

The Springfield IL entry is clearly a mistake, geographically and organization-wise.

Springfield MA is the city the author should have pointed out.

Terrible screw up implying that the Cava and Graziano clans are Sicilians. They’re obviously Camorra.

We all know the connections that particular Genovese crew has to Campania. Emilio Fusco is from Quindici and the majority of alleged members and associates in Springfield (Calvanese, the Santaniellos, the Manzis, etc...) can trace their roots in the same inland rural areas of Campania (Avellino).
Posted By: m2w

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
The Springfield IL entry is clearly a mistake, geographically and organization-wise.

Springfield MA is the city the author should have pointed out.

Terrible screw up implying that the Cava and Graziano clans are Sicilians. They’re obviously Camorra.

We all know the connections that particular Genovese crew has to Campania. Emilio Fusco is from Quindici and the majority of alleged members and associates in Springfield (Calvanese, the Santaniellos, the Manzis, etc...) can trace their roots in the same inland rural areas of Campania (Avellino).

In the map they are singned as camorra clans they are right
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by LuanKuci
The Springfield IL entry is clearly a mistake, geographically and organization-wise.

Springfield MA is the city the author should have pointed out.

Terrible screw up implying that the Cava and Graziano clans are Sicilians. They’re obviously Camorra.

We all know the connections that particular Genovese crew has to Campania. Emilio Fusco is from Quindici and the majority of alleged members and associates in Springfield (Calvanese, the Santaniellos, the Manzis, etc...) can trace their roots in the same inland rural areas of Campania (Avellino).

In the map they are singned as camorra clans they are right



Its funny both clans are located there because in their hometown there was a big feud between Cava and Graziano even the women were involved in shootouts.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 02:39 PM

My bad.

Springfield MA is an interesting spot. I’m wondering what are the actual connections between the local crew and the clans overseas other than the fact that many of the alleged members’ ancestors emigrated from that region.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by LuanKuci
My bad.

Springfield MA is an interesting spot. I’m wondering what are the actual connections between the local crew and the clans overseas other than the fact that many of the alleged members’ ancestors emigrated from that region.


'Ndrangheta cells from all over the world , all of them answer to clans from San Luca. They can't do anything without consulting main clans ,and bigger stuff are decided by annual meeting(Il Crimine)

As for Sicilians in New York , like i already said , they are "true" mafia, all related to each other , no rats , and A LOT of money. They are very poweful
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 10/15/18 03:44 PM

Sure thing Strax.

but the Cava and Graziano clans are Camorra and Springfield is Genovese turf.

I was wondering what connections exist between that Genovese crew and Italy (Campania).
Posted By: Balaclava777

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/16/19 09:54 PM

Does anyone have the world map versions? I’ve see. It before but cannot find it now.
Posted By: Neo

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/16/19 11:38 PM

These maps are highly misleading. A couple of Italians that got caught dealing pot on a street corner and have distant relatives in the 'Ndrangreta, doesn't qualify as a 'Ndrangreta narco trafficking group.
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 04:13 AM

Very cool didn't know there was camorra in toronto and that many ndrangheta cells in the u.s
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate.


They are the most powerful for sure
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bobbybacala
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate.


They are the most powerful for sure


Yes, but there are also several Cosa Nostra families, Caruana-Cuntrera, Rizzuto, Arcuri, Modica, Scarcella, Inzerillo.
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Bobbybacala
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate.


They are the most powerful for sure


Yes, but there are also several Cosa Nostra families, Caruana-Cuntrera, Rizzuto, Arcuri, Modica, Scarcella, Inzerillo.


Scarcella retired modica crew has been defunct since he got deported in 2006 alphonso caruana has been in jail since 1999 and his partners joe cuntrera and his uncle left for italy permanently last year after their homes were repeatedly firebombed and the rizzuto crew is gone as well
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


It's because most of siciliano groups are defunct
Posted By: Luxurydog

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 05:04 PM

I wonder if this is what American LCN would look like if Lucky Luciano didn't form the National Crime Syndicate

Many small families scattered all over NY like in Montreal and Toronto

Imagine if all the italian criminals in Canada formed up into 5-6 fullfledge families early on, under one banner like Cosa Nostra
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 05:13 PM

Imagine if they were doing that now, or something better
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 05:38 PM

What would be obstacles to that actually occurring?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bobbybacala
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


It's because most of siciliano groups are defunct


caruana-cuntrera and rizzuto crews are not defunct in ontario, probably they are behind the recent attacks against commisso clan
Posted By: MolochioInduced

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 06:42 PM

Interesting observation, does the major Figliomeni/Commisso arrest not that long ago play to this
Posted By: Moscone65

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/18/19 08:34 PM

It might happen. It’s like how the states were once upon a time till the 30’s. Once the old timers actually from Italy start getting replaced with their kids ect who are more Canadian, things might change.
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/19/19 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Luxurydog
I wonder if this is what American LCN would look like if Lucky Luciano didn't form the National Crime Syndicate

Many small families scattered all over NY like in Montreal and Toronto

Imagine if all the italian criminals in Canada formed up into 5-6 fullfledge families early on, under one banner like Cosa Nostra


Canada is ran just like Italy
Posted By: Bobbybacala

Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada) - 11/25/19 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by m2w
Originally Posted by Bobbybacala
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.

I wonder how old these maps are?


It's because most of siciliano groups are defunct


caruana-cuntrera and rizzuto crews are not defunct in ontario, probably they are behind the recent attacks against commisso clan


Yea your right just asked a local but they are the only sicilian crew left
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