Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years

Bonanno acting capo ronald gillanzo got slammed today with a 14 year sentence- https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...gets-14-years-for-loan-shark-scheme/amp/

dam he got broke off. shit for laon sharking they must have thought he killed someone an got away with it thats servere

with good time its 12 yrs people get way less for murder sometimes.

it will probaly get appealed the judge will resetence him a feew less

he was expecting 7 8 got double

guess you cant just go around beating people till they shit all over themselves well you scream for ya doe

What's his day job? How do these people prove their income?

Most people who are about to be shot to death will end up shitting themselves. Most mobsters who were shot to death probably shit themselves. Violent death isn't glamorous, no matter how much movies like Scarface or Godfather portray it to be.

You know in mortuaries, after you die, they stick cotton up your ass to prevent leakage? Reminds me of when you cook goose for Christmas and a little shit is coming out of the goose's ass.

Hell, remember The Sopranos when Gene hangs himself? Watch carefully. He pisses himself.

Basically, if you're planning on dying, make sure you've taken a dump and peed beforehand.

The indictment against ronnie g did include charges of attempted murder. Not that surprised he got a long sentence.

He was breaking legs from twenty years,for sure had money hidden in some place,he was also an acting capo and in the article is said that had his crew so more money.For me the tears was fake.He is Asaro's nephew so if he growed in the mafia,he will do his time without flip.

This is America, though. You must declare everything. You can't beat the tax man. I mean, if you win the lottery, you declare it. You get an inheritance, you declare it. This guy, God knows what he actually does for a living, is living in a mansion? What the fuck, like? With how pernickety the government is about eating away at the face value of people's earnings I'm surprised people like Giallanza can get away with this. Yes, he has money squirreled away, I get this, but it can't be as simple as doing that, CAN IT?

I mean look at guys like Vincent Gigante, Neil Dellacroce or even John Gotti. On the surface of it, none of them were living beyond their means. (Gotti's cross-eyed son is another matter)

You experience "justice" through the prism of the court system in countries like Ireland, you won't be long appreciating the sentences people like Giallanza get.

I dont rly agree with the sentence. When ronnie gets out he’ll be institutionalized. And then go back to a life of crime. This country has such a fuckin stupid prison system. The courts throw guys in a shitty environment with violent gangs for a decade, and then expect ex cons to live a law abiding life. Makes no sense.

It's Federal Prison..I feel bad for his Wife and Kids...He came out a few years ago..Bad Cycle.

Save your sympathy for the guys who deserve it.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/31/mobster-who-claims-jail-food-is-killing-him-scarfs-down-hot-dog/

These guys are beyond help. They're grown men. We're talking about people who are in their 40's, 50's and 60's and whose daughters have been put through school and had luxurious sweet 16's, weddings and christenings with the proceeds of other people's blood, tears and misery.

You mention the word institutionalized. It's not suburban middle aged mafia members who've spent their entire lives gaming the system who've been institutionalized. Let's face it. It's the black kids living in low income families with no older role models who don't stand a chance.

Save your sympathy for the guys who deserve it.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/31/mobster-who-claims-jail-food-is-killing-him-scarfs-down-hot-dog/

These guys are beyond help. They're grown men. We're talking about people who are in their 40's, 50's and 60's and whose daughters have been put through school and had luxurious sweet 16's, weddings and christenings with the proceeds of other people's blood, tears and misery.

You mention the word institutionalized. It's not suburban middle aged mafia members who've spent their entire lives gaming the system who've been institutionalized. Let's face it. It's the black kids living in low income families with no older role models who don't stand a chance.


Oh please! Now you are fake caring a damn about Black kids to make your lame points, whatever they are.

The truth, which the Mo Tilden's of the world are afraid of people hearing.

What does a low income black kid have to do anything? No role models?? I guess if they stopped having babies out of wedlock more black kids wouldnt become poor and would also have role models. Who’s fault is that??? Not mine and not yours.

He's grasping for straws, they have nothing to do with it.

Thanks for the news Zero6245. No sympathy. He knew what he was getting into.

he beat only one person, and that was a man refusing to pay back money. The borrower should have known what would happen. Most of the charges were him making threats. He also apparently volenterred at ground zero, and had a legitimate source of income all these years. The senate for what amount to assault is way over what it should be.

Borrower LOL. You would swear he went to a bank and not a criminal. Jace, you don't honestly think he paid for that mansion with a legitimate source of income, so don't play dumb.

And I don't "care" about black kids. I have no dog in this race. A criminal is a criminal. I'm just saying 47 year old mobsters are beyond reforming so don't bring up the word "institutionalized" to facetiously describe them.

They can afford the best lawyers with their blood money, which 18 year old black kids from the projects can't, so it's not comparing apples with apples.

"Borrower LOL. "


ok,, what do you call him he borrowed and would not pay.

As for a job,

He had to have had one, maybe someone here knows if they followed the case more than either of us. If he didn't they would have gotten him on more charges and seized the house earlier. And again, you pull the lame "Black kids can't get attorney..." B.S. Knock off the politics, leave that out of this.

Well, look no further than John Gotti. What did he gainfully do to afford lawyers like Cutler and Shargel? Work as a clerk in a fishing bait shop, something like that?

And stop blaming the victim here. Loansharking and extortion are illegal.

And re: your last paragraph. It's perfectly relevant and it puts into perspective calling a recidivist career criminal like Giallanza's sentence harsh when it isn't anything of the sort.

He, and people like him, are a plague on society. And I cannot sanction your defense of people like them, while hypocritically laying all the blame of society's ills on others.

He's been warned against making racist statements. He didn't heed those warnings. He's gone now. Good riddance.

I hear what you're saying, but he still made a choice to do it. As well as choosing to be a mobster, which means receiving a harsh sentence. For example, Benny Eggs got more time than him for rigging window replacement bids.

My statement didnt rly apply to ronnie g. My statement would more apply to a guy goin away to prison for his first time. In my opinion prisons should try to rehabilitate first time offenders if they aren’t doin a life sentence. Id blame the horrible environment in prisons on the correctional officers that pretty much let gangs run the prisons.Throwin a guy in an environment full of violent gangs will not lead to anything good. Anyway, i dont wanna get too off topic so thats all i gotta say on the prison system topic.

Thank you, I missed that point at first.

@zero This is certainly not Ronnie G’s first stretch in prison, he’s been in and out of prison for most of this century. The charges in his indictment allege that he effectively ran his loansharking ring from behind bars.

i think he was a mechanic. think these dudes have legit jobs. evev his uncle asaro had a fence company before he was like 80yrs old and indicted for the heist

there was a colombo soldier not to long ago who had a small plumbing business but sold coke on side and gambling he said he was making so much money he didnt know where to put it. plumbers make good money, nasty job sometimes but wrake in dough flat rates

That puts a different light on it, thank you. Do you know what his prior convictions were for?

Your posts reek of such disgusting jealousy I'm amazed you haven't jumped off a cliff already.

I take no offense because I know you're just gimmick posting. I think it's mildly funny.

Haha says the guy who takes offense to everything. You're hilarious Moe.

In Massachusetts there is a saying “Walpole State Prison (used to be the most serious prison in Mass before SBCC) is full of people whose lawyers didn’t take any shit from the judge.”

It seems like the court took exception to some of the things his attorney said. Could have added abit because of that.

Personally I find it embarrassing whenever a judge exceeds a prosecutors recommended sentence as in this case.

i think he'll be resentenced

some judge gave a gambino guy 30 yrs for a bank robbery cause theguy had done it before then he cutt off 15yrs later. it was the seinfield robber

Do you recall his name?

Extortion relating to a Colombo family stock fraud in 2006. He was imprisoned from 2006-2013. Then he was arrested in 2016 for violating parole. The following year came his enormous loansharking bust, which alleged that he ran a lot of it behind bars.

Giovanni 'John' Cerbone in the Staten Island crew.

He had a fence company but also served various stretches in prison. He has arrests from 1959, 1960, 1963, 1967, 1970, 1978 and 1998. Career criminal.

You had mentioned he was a plumber, mechanic has been mentioned for his occupation too. Did he do both and own the fence company? If he had all 3 going he was foolish to stay involved. Thanks for his arrest record, can you please tell me if ay of those were felony convictions, if you know?

Jace I have no idea about his being a plumber and mechanic. But what you have to understand is that most wiseguys have some sort of legitimate business they own to give themselves an air of authenticity. You can’t throw your hands up in the air and say “if they’ve got such a great fence company, why are they involved in organised crime?” Because organised.crime comes first. Organised crime pays for the legitimate businesses. Organised crime is their full time job.
During the 1990s, Vincent Asaro ran an enormous car theft ring that netted him millions of dollars. Mechanics would place orders to Vinny for various cars because they needed parts, and Vinny would send out squads to jack the cars. All of this came while he was running his fence company.

I couldn't have put that better myself. Whenever anyone brings up a mobster being even semi-legitimate it comes with a sizeable caveat as you said.

14 years is insane and a crazy amount of forfeiture. Was he offered a plea here at all before it went to jury?

The worst I’ve see was the Colombo guy who beat the murder rap but the judge thought he done it and gave him 50 years! It didn’t help that he said he would do 20 years standing on his head. There should be limits as that’s a joke. If the government can’t prove a case beyond reasonable doubt it’s wrong that the judge can just give any sentence they feel to. That’s not democratic justice.

He did plea. He didn't go to trial.



Dino Saracino is who you're talking about.

Wow he pled and still got that!!!!!!

How is 14 years a harsh sentence for a crime of this magnitude from a serial repeat offender?

A few things people need to understand:

Giallanzo was looking at eight-to-ten years via his recommended plea agreement. So he got more than that, but those were simply advisory recommendations. He also has to give over a huge forfeiture and is being forced to sell that house. Giallanzo was looking at far more time than that had he gone to trial and lost.

Giallanzo's indictment charged him as being the head of a 19-year-long racketeering conspiracy that controlled one of the largest recorded loanshark books in recent times, alongside gambling, drug dealing, and extortion. TThe racketeering conspiracy also involved the murder conspiracy and attempted murder of a rival drug dealer. The crimes also alleged that he ran his operation and continued to become rich during a seven-year stint for extortion he served from 2006-2013. So again, Giallanzo's sentence was stiff compared to his plea agreement, but not out-of-the-ballpark insane. Giallanzo knew the sentence recommendations were advisory when he took the deal and he knew the judge Dora Irizarry hated his guts. It was a gamble, which he lost.

Some people will still insist it's harsh.

How many times are you going to say this?