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John Gotti and the New England Mafia

Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 12:33 AM

John Jr. mentioned his father meeting with Raymond Patriarca at the New York Military Academy when he was a student and RP's grandson was also a student. However, there were other stories in the A&E documentary that directly involve the New England family including Frank Salemme who is on trial now in Boston for murder.

I lay out the connections between Gotti and NELCN in my article linked below. I also linked to the sources I used so you can follow up and dig deeper if you want to learn more about the Gotti connection to the New England family including the Rhode Island mobster who helped kill Favara and the Boston LCN capo who discussed killing Gravano's family when he switched sides. Attorney Cutler was excluded from defending Gotti because of Ravenite tapes that captured his conversation with JG about communicating with the Patriarca boss and I included the quotes from the FBI wiretap in my article linked below.

http://wbsm.com/opinion-chris-mccarthy-john-gotti-and-the-new-england-mafia/
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 12:41 AM

I read Gotti had some connection to New England mob but I didn’t realize it was that much. Good catch Chris
Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 12:45 AM

Thanks JCrusher - I'm a Massachusetts guy and I have followed this family for years and when I heard the Patriarca story in the A&E documentary I knew there was a whole lot more to tell about the relationship. I included the links to my sources so everybody who is interested can read deep on their own schedule.
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMcCarthy
Thanks JCrusher - I'm a Massachusetts guy and I have followed this family for years and when I heard the Patriarca story in the A&E documentary I knew there was a whole lot more to tell about the relationship. I included the links to my sources so everybody who is interested can read deep on their own schedule.

i bet you have a lot of experience to the history of bulger and the winter hill gang as well
Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 12:51 AM

Howie Carr is the Bulger expert!
Posted By: Japseye1

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 02:09 AM

[img]https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn....eee8555a91fa2e619e0f7192&oe=5BAB2114[/img]

Howie with Robert Mitchum and kissing Moe Greene
Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Japseye1
[img]https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn....eee8555a91fa2e619e0f7192&oe=5BAB2114[/img]

Howie with Robert Mitchum and kissing Moe Greene


Nice reference to the Friends of Eddie Coyle
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMcCarthy
Originally Posted by Japseye1
[img]https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn....eee8555a91fa2e619e0f7192&oe=5BAB2114[/img]

Howie with Robert Mitchum and kissing Moe Greene


Nice reference to the Friends of Eddie Coyle

Great Film!
Posted By: Japseye1

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 04:16 AM

I wouldn't mind meeting Howie . He must have alot of stories to tell
Posted By: Gopher

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 02:10 PM

Long Live The Rooster.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 08:41 PM

Thanks Chris.. Appreciate your contributions
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 08:53 PM

there was alot of pics of john gotti and his crew hanging around providence and on boats down narragenset bay there somewhere on the internet. theres one john gotti with matthew guil... and his father. with redbird gomes and gene gotti arounf 1980. theres a few pics they must be copy rited hard to find
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 08:53 PM

wanna say ray jr and gotti to
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 08:54 PM

they were all fbi survellance probaly owned by time mag.
Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/12/18 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by pmac
there was alot of pics of john gotti and his crew hanging around providence and on boats down narragenset bay there somewhere on the internet. theres one john gotti with matthew guil... and his father. with redbird gomes and gene gotti arounf 1980. theres a few pics they must be copy rited hard to find


I will look around for those pictures - thanks PMac
Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/16/18 02:26 AM

Does anybody have pictures of Gotti with New England LCN members? Not private photos but pictures in the public domain.
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/16/18 03:36 PM

There real. Its like there scrubbed from the internet. They must have been time magazine. Theres pics of john his brother gene. And all the providence guys. Surveillance pics from a distance. Must have been 79 80.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/17/18 12:11 AM

Thanks Chris. Great article.
Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/17/18 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by MightyDR
Thanks Chris. Great article.


Thanks MightyDR
Posted By: RomanNE

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/17/18 01:34 AM

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Posted By: ChrisMcCarthy

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/17/18 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by RomanNE
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Thanks, RomanNE for the picture - I appreciate it.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 12:00 AM

Nice one RomanNE
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 12:13 AM

theres a bunch more im guessing this is in the late 80tys because the gambino guy dibernardo was in charge of the porn in all new england except in boston and guarino was his guy in rhode island and palladino in mass. sammy the bull killed dibernardo in summer 1986.then the old guy in the pic natale took over the gambinos porn biz. alot of frank salemmes trial is about a meeting between the old guy natale and frank at the airport hotel in 1991 dec. the pic i seen were im thinking 80 give or take
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by pmac
theres a bunch more im guessing this is in the late 80tys because the gambino guy dibernardo was in charge of the porn in all new england except in boston and guarino was his guy in rhode island and palladino in mass. sammy the bull killed dibernardo in summer 1986.then the old guy in the pic natale took over the gambinos porn biz. alot of frank salemmes trial is about a meeting between the old guy natale and frank at the airport hotel in 1991 dec. the pic i seen were im thinking 80 give or take

yeah I think it’s 1979/80. Going by what Gotti looked like from the spring 1979 surveillance shots in front of the ravenite
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 01:44 AM

I hate to be one of those assholes, but I'm gonna be one of those assholes.

I posted that in the rare photos thread just over a week ago.
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 01:52 AM

surposely the rhode island guys had a hand in kidnapping/killing the neighbor who ran over gottis kid in 1980.
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 01:53 AM

gomes went to prison for 16yrs in the late 88 89 for trying to kill some guys in rhode island.
Posted By: pmac

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/18/18 01:54 AM

that pic must be 87 88
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: John Gotti and the New England Mafia - 06/19/18 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I hate to be one of those assholes, but I'm gonna be one of those assholes.

I posted that in the rare photos thread just over a week ago.



lol, this is true. I don't think we understood the significance of it then lol
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