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Posted By: furio_from_naples

White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/10/18 09:42 AM

More talk about black or latino gangs but there are white street gangs in america apart the the Aryan Army and other supremative gangs ?
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/10/18 05:21 PM

@Furio
I don't know how many times I have name drop them but here:
Simon City Royals
C-Notes
12 st Players
Gaylord
Insane Popes
Insane Dueces.
Many Chicago Latino gangs have a sizeable white membership
Posted By: Flushing

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/10/18 06:31 PM

Glad this topic came up, as I was meaning to start my own thread about it.

FSU.

FSU is perhaps the best example of a supposedly "non racist" gang. Their membership is predominantly white, though they are multi-ethnic and were formed by a black man in Boston. Antifa is mostly white as well. Here is an list of other "nazi punchers" gathered by mother jones:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/timeline-anti-fascists-nazi-punching/

I should mention the similarities between antifa and FSU. It's almost a complete copy. FSU's motto is "respect through fear", while antifa uses "peace through violence". The similarities between the two include fashion, tactics, goals (killing nazis) and they are also similar in that they are restricted to a well defined base (universities and hardcore shows).

The similarities end there: FSU is considered organized crime by the FBI. They are responsible 4 murders and suspected in more. They moved into extortion and act as a farm team for several biker gangs. Many of the national chapters disbanded after FBI pressure. One member in Philly has decommitted from the gang citing its departure from the noble goal of disparaging racists.

FSU had its heyday in early 2000's.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/12/18 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
@Furio
I don't know how many times I have name drop them but here:
Simon City Royals
C-Notes
12 st Players
Gaylord
Insane Popes
Insane Dueces.
Many Chicago Latino gangs have a sizeable white membership



All of this gang apart maybe c-notes are compost of latinos/black and whit men. I asked a gang comosted of all whites.
black family,I know that you posted this names but what asked is different;
Flushing thanks for answer. In italy are 70 y that fight fascist against comunists.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/12/18 09:56 AM

D.M.I
S.H.A.R.P.
A.R.A
H.A.R.M

There are a lot of homegrown white gangs, mostly just act tough.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/12/18 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
@Furio
I don't know how many times I have name drop them but here:
Simon City Royals
C-Notes
12 st Players
Gaylord
Insane Popes
Insane Dueces.
Many Chicago Latino gangs have a sizeable white membership



All of this gang apart maybe c-notes are compost of latinos/black and whit men. I asked a gang comosted of all whites.
black family,I know that you posted this names but what asked is different;
Flushing thanks for answer. In italy are 70 y that fight fascist against comunists.


Simon City Royals are PREDOMINANTLY white. Yes they have a mix membership. Once you leave Chicago metro and go to other locations ( minor exception of Florida) they are generally 90-98% white. Matter of fact , Royals are the LARGEST white street gang in the U.S
Posted By: 2a

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/12/18 08:09 PM


I don't think there are any street gangs in the US that are exclusively composed of white members , much less ones that fit that criteria and are non racist . The closest thing to a proper white street gang in this country is probably PEN1 , but they most likely have a prison based wing and they are racist which rules them out of the equation .


Speaking of FSU is it true that they act as a farm team for the Outlaws MC ? I've seen that claim before and I find it rather strange that such militant anti racists would have links to a 1% club with a reputation for anti black racism .
Posted By: Kash

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/12/18 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by 2a

I don't think there are any street gangs in the US that are exclusively composed of white members , much less ones that fit that criteria and are non racist . The closest thing to a proper white street gang in this country is probably PEN1 , but they most likely have a prison based wing and they are racist which rules them out of the equation .


You need to listen to BF because you are not correct
Posted By: Flushing

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/13/18 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by 2a



Speaking of FSU is it true that they act as a farm team for the Outlaws MC ? I've seen that claim before and I find it rather strange that such militant anti racists would have links to a 1% club with a reputation for anti black racism .


I found a couple of links regarding FSU and Outlaws:

"50 Crazy White Guys With Machetes" https://www.clevescene.com/scene-an...dcore-crews-brawled-in-lakewood-saturday

"Hardcore Crews Battle in Lakewood" http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/2014/04/21/hardcore-crews-battle-in-lakewood-23-arrested
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/19/18 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
D.M.I
S.H.A.R.P.
A.R.A
H.A.R.M

There are a lot of homegrown white gangs, mostly just act tough.


these aren't gangs,they were moar like the precursors to ANTIFA. and every group you listed has been defunct since the 80's.
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/19/18 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
@Furio
I don't know how many times I have name drop them but here:
Simon City Royals
C-Notes
12 st Players
Gaylord
Insane Popes
Insane Dueces.
Many Chicago Latino gangs have a sizeable white membership


sory but none of these gangs exist anymoar
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/19/18 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by Flushing
Originally Posted by 2a



Speaking of FSU is it true that they act as a farm team for the Outlaws MC ? I've seen that claim before and I find it rather strange that such militant anti racists would have links to a 1% club with a reputation for anti black racism .


I found a couple of links regarding FSU and Outlaws:

"50 Crazy White Guys With Machetes" https://www.clevescene.com/scene-an...dcore-crews-brawled-in-lakewood-saturday

"Hardcore Crews Battle in Lakewood" http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/2014/04/21/hardcore-crews-battle-in-lakewood-23-arrested


FSU doesn't exist,and were only around for a few years in the 80's and 90's,in new England.their founder was black so they can't realy be considered a white gang.and they were Never a gang to begin with,just some kids that went to dance at hardcore punk shows.
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/19/18 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by 2a

I don't think there are any street gangs in the US that are exclusively composed of white members , much less ones that fit that criteria and are non racist . The closest thing to a proper white street gang in this country is probably PEN1 , but they most likely have a prison based wing and they are racist which rules them out of the equation .



ghostface gangsters in georgia. and contrary to ADL propaganda,they are Not white supremacists.they are all-white but have no animosity towards blacks
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/20/18 05:20 AM

This happened back in January of this year on the Gulf Coast of my state.

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HARRISON COUNTY, MS (WLOX) - Two members of the Simon City Royals gang will spend the next 25 years in prison after pleading guilty to kidnapping and robbing two servicemen.

Colton Delaughter, 27, and William Stockstill, 24, pleaded guilty Monday to the charges, which stem from an incident that happened Feb. 17, 2017. Authorities say the two Picayune natives kidnapped two sailors in the U.S. Navy from the parking garage at the Beau Rivage Casino, holding them at gunpoint. The two servicemen were stationed in Pensacola and were vacationing in Biloxi at the time.

Delaughter and Stockstill forced the men into their rental car and took their cell phones so they couldn't call for help. The pair then drove the victims to a gas station in Pass Christian and forced them to withdraw cash from an ATM and buy snacks and drinks. When they approached the cashier at the store, one of the victims wrote "help me" and "gun" on his receipt when he signed for his credit card purchase. After giving the receipt back to the clerk, Delaughter and Stockstill grew suspicious and quickly forced the men back into the car. The clerk at the store immediately called the police.

Delaughter and Stockstill then drove the victims to the Hollywood Casino in Bay St. Louis, where they forced them to withdraw more money from the ATM. After leaving the casino, the defendants left the victims on the side of the road, north of I-10 in Hancock County. The victims were able to flag down a car and call police.

The defendants were quickly identified by authorities using surveillance video and photo lineups. Delaughter was arrested in Carriere the following day while still in possession of the rental car. Stockstill was arrested later that same day in Richland.

According to prosecutors, both Delaughter and Stockstill were known members of the Simon City Royals. Because of the nature of the armed robbery charge, each of the men will serve every day of their 25 year sentenced. -

Like I said the Simon City Royals are largest white street gang. In my state they around 1,000+ members.
Posted By: 2a

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/22/18 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kash
Originally Posted by 2a

I don't think there are any street gangs in the US that are exclusively composed of white members , much less ones that fit that criteria and are non racist . The closest thing to a proper white street gang in this country is probably PEN1 , but they most likely have a prison based wing and they are racist which rules them out of the equation .


You need to listen to BF because you are not correct


I know about the Royals and all , but if I understood the OP's question correctly he was asking about non racist street gangs composed exclusively of white members , and the SCR's don't fit that criteria . As mentioned above the Ghostface Gangsters may fit the bill , however I wasn't aware of them until now and that post came in before mine .
Posted By: 2a

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/22/18 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by americafyeah
Originally Posted by Flushing
Originally Posted by 2a



Speaking of FSU is it true that they act as a farm team for the Outlaws MC ? I've seen that claim before and I find it rather strange that such militant anti racists would have links to a 1% club with a reputation for anti black racism .


I found a couple of links regarding FSU and Outlaws:

"50 Crazy White Guys With Machetes" https://www.clevescene.com/scene-an...dcore-crews-brawled-in-lakewood-saturday

"Hardcore Crews Battle in Lakewood" http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/2014/04/21/hardcore-crews-battle-in-lakewood-23-arrested


FSU doesn't exist,and were only around for a few years in the 80's and 90's,in new England.their founder was black so they can't realy be considered a white gang.and they were Never a gang to begin with,just some kids that went to dance at hardcore punk shows.


Yeah I wouldn't consider the FSU a gang either . Certainly not in the sense of being an organized crime group .
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/23/18 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by 2a
Originally Posted by Kash
Originally Posted by 2a

I don't think there are any street gangs in the US that are exclusively composed of white members , much less ones that fit that criteria and are non racist . The closest thing to a proper white street gang in this country is probably PEN1 , but they most likely have a prison based wing and they are racist which rules them out of the equation .


You need to listen to BF because you are not correct


I know about the Royals and all , but if I understood the OP's question correctly he was asking about non racist street gangs composed exclusively of white members , and the SCR's don't fit that criteria . As mentioned above the Ghostface Gangsters may fit the bill , however I wasn't aware of them until now and that post came in before mine .


*Sigh*
The Royals started exclusively white but even present day they are predominantly white and nearly exclusively white outside of Chicago metro.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/23/18 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by americafyeah
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
@Furio
I don't know how many times I have name drop them but here:
Simon City Royals
C-Notes
12 st Players
Gaylord
Insane Popes
Insane Dueces.
Many Chicago Latino gangs have a sizeable white membership


sory but none of these gangs exist anymoar



All those gangs still exist to one degree or another
Posted By: Flushing

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/23/18 07:04 PM

Lol. To everyone that says FSU doesn't exist. They were a national g\ng with chapters everywhere. If you had ever encountered them at a show it would be a different story. They had more criminal activity in the early 00's than some mob families. 4 murders, extortion, hundreds of members, and literally brought the scene to its knees
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/25/18 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by americafyeah
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
D.M.I
S.H.A.R.P.
A.R.A
H.A.R.M

There are a lot of homegrown white gangs, mostly just act tough.


these aren't gangs,they were moar like the precursors to ANTIFA. and every group you listed has been defunct since the 80's.


Lol, A.R.A. and H.A.R.M have been in the papers this year. D.M.I. (Spit) is still around. S.H.A.R.P. Is still around but scattered. These are American gangs. They may not be the gangs you automatically think of when talking about gangs, but they are still considered gangs.
Posted By: pmac

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/25/18 10:24 PM

the democrats. i made a joke .yessss.
Posted By: 2a

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/26/18 08:53 PM



Why the sigh BF ? confused I mean if you read Furio's second post then it becomes clear that he was specifically asking about street gangs that are exclusively composed of white members , yet happen to be non racist . I only gave him an answer that I know to be more or less true , which may very well not be the case what with the claim of the ghostface gangsters fitting the bill and all .

As far as the FSU goes , maybe I'm wrong , but to my knowledge they're basically the anti racist version of your more violent than average KKK group . In other words they do commit ( primarily violent ) crimes , but not for the sake of profit and aren't indiscriminate enough in their violence to be classified as a proper terrorist group .
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/27/18 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by 2a


Why the sigh BF ? confused I mean if you read Furio's second post then it becomes clear that he was specifically asking about street gangs that are exclusively composed of white members , yet happen to be non racist . I only gave him an answer that I know to be more or less true , which may very well not be the case what with the claim of the ghostface gangsters fitting the bill and all .

As far as the FSU goes , maybe I'm wrong , but to my knowledge they're basically the anti racist version of your more violent than average KKK group . In other words they do commit ( primarily violent ) crimes , but not for the sake of profit and aren't indiscriminate enough in their violence to be classified as a proper terrorist group .



@2a
There seems to be a lack of understanding the background of street gangs. Generally speaking of present day there is very few street gangs that are explicitly 1 ethnicity. Even the Latino & Black gangs have mixed membership in certain locations. Generally there is no major street gang in this country that have exclusive membership like LCN. Hence why i sigh, the 1 major white street gang is SCR. There are more branches that are all white than mixed. There's the answer right there.
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/29/18 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Originally Posted by americafyeah
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
D.M.I
S.H.A.R.P.
A.R.A
H.A.R.M

There are a lot of homegrown white gangs, mostly just act tough.


these aren't gangs,they were moar like the precursors to ANTIFA. and every group you listed has been defunct since the 80's.


Lol, A.R.A. and H.A.R.M have been in the papers this year. D.M.I. (Spit) is still around. S.H.A.R.P. Is still around but scattered. These are American gangs. They may not be the gangs you automatically think of when talking about gangs, but they are still considered gangs.


do you consider ANTIFA a gang? because groups like SHARP, ARA and HARM were the same thing as ANTIFA. they go to events like concerts,or protests,looking to contront "fascists". none of them are gangs by any definition. ANTIFA is the only active anti-fascist group. but the ARA,and SHARP's hayday was in the 80's.their whole purpose was to fight skinheads. there are no skinheads anymoar,they are non-existent. so these groups broke up a long time ago.
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/29/18 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by 2a
Originally Posted by americafyeah
Originally Posted by Flushing
Originally Posted by 2a



Speaking of FSU is it true that they act as a farm team for the Outlaws MC ? I've seen that claim before and I find it rather strange that such militant anti racists would have links to a 1% club with a reputation for anti black racism .


I found a couple of links regarding FSU and Outlaws:

"50 Crazy White Guys With Machetes" https://www.clevescene.com/scene-an...dcore-crews-brawled-in-lakewood-saturday

"Hardcore Crews Battle in Lakewood" http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/2014/04/21/hardcore-crews-battle-in-lakewood-23-arrested


FSU doesn't exist,and were only around for a few years in the 80's and 90's,in new England.their founder was black so they can't realy be considered a white gang.and they were Never a gang to begin with,just some kids that went to dance at hardcore punk shows.


Yeah I wouldn't consider the FSU a gang either . Certainly not in the sense of being an organized crime group .


exactly.FSU is like a slogan.it's not a real gang,or organizedgroup. a lot of Hardcore bands use slogans.like bands from NY use NYHC (new York hardcore) next thing you know people will be saying NYHC is a gang lol.
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/29/18 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by 2a


Why the sigh BF ? confused I mean if you read Furio's second post then it becomes clear that he was specifically asking about street gangs that are exclusively composed of white members , yet happen to be non racist . I only gave him an answer that I know to be more or less true , which may very well not be the case what with the claim of the ghostface gangsters fitting the bill and all .

As far as the FSU goes , maybe I'm wrong , but to my knowledge they're basically the anti racist version of your more violent than average KKK group . In other words they do commit ( primarily violent ) crimes , but not for the sake of profit and aren't indiscriminate enough in their violence to be classified as a proper terrorist group .



@2a
There seems to be a lack of understanding the background of street gangs. Generally speaking of present day there is very few street gangs that are explicitly 1 ethnicity. Even the Latino & Black gangs have mixed membership in certain locations. Generally there is no major street gang in this country that have exclusive membership like LCN. Hence why i sigh, the 1 major white street gang is SCR. There are more branches that are all white than mixed. There's the answer right there.


ghostface gangsters are the only one
Posted By: 2a

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/29/18 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by 2a


Why the sigh BF ? confused I mean if you read Furio's second post then it becomes clear that he was specifically asking about street gangs that are exclusively composed of white members , yet happen to be non racist . I only gave him an answer that I know to be more or less true , which may very well not be the case what with the claim of the ghostface gangsters fitting the bill and all .

As far as the FSU goes , maybe I'm wrong , but to my knowledge they're basically the anti racist version of your more violent than average KKK group . In other words they do commit ( primarily violent ) crimes , but not for the sake of profit and aren't indiscriminate enough in their violence to be classified as a proper terrorist group .



@2a
There seems to be a lack of understanding the background of street gangs. Generally speaking of present day there is very few street gangs that are explicitly 1 ethnicity. Even the Latino & Black gangs have mixed membership in certain locations. Generally there is no major street gang in this country that have exclusive membership like LCN. Hence why i sigh, the 1 major white street gang is SCR. There are more branches that are all white than mixed. There's the answer right there.



Yes I recall you filling me in on this on another thread and I agree that one can refer to predominantly white gangs as white gangs , I was just trying to give furio a satisfactory answer based on his criteria , but it looks like americafyeah has beat me to it .


For what it's worth , I hope you haven't taken offense to my ( seeming ) regurgitation of bad information , since that wasn't my intention at all . smile


Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 03/30/18 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by 2a
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by 2a


Why the sigh BF ? confused I mean if you read Furio's second post then it becomes clear that he was specifically asking about street gangs that are exclusively composed of white members , yet happen to be non racist . I only gave him an answer that I know to be more or less true , which may very well not be the case what with the claim of the ghostface gangsters fitting the bill and all .

As far as the FSU goes , maybe I'm wrong , but to my knowledge they're basically the anti racist version of your more violent than average KKK group . In other words they do commit ( primarily violent ) crimes , but not for the sake of profit and aren't indiscriminate enough in their violence to be classified as a proper terrorist group .



@2a
There seems to be a lack of understanding the background of street gangs. Generally speaking of present day there is very few street gangs that are explicitly 1 ethnicity. Even the Latino & Black gangs have mixed membership in certain locations. Generally there is no major street gang in this country that have exclusive membership like LCN. Hence why i sigh, the 1 major white street gang is SCR. There are more branches that are all white than mixed. There's the answer right there.



Yes I recall you filling me in on this on another thread and I agree that one can refer to predominantly white gangs as white gangs , I was just trying to give furio a satisfactory answer based on his criteria , but it looks like americafyeah has beat me to it .


For what it's worth , I hope you haven't taken offense to my ( seeming ) regurgitation of bad information , since that wasn't my intention at all . smile




No offense taken. Just flustered at explaining the scenario in a manner to be understood repeatedly.
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 09/07/22 06:58 AM

Ghostface Gangsters gang bosses and members convicted of RICO conspiracy, drug, and gun charges https://gangstersinc.org/blog/ghostface-gangsters-gang-bosses-and-members-convicted-of-rico-con
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 01/14/23 04:38 AM

Ghostface Gangsters busted in Georgia after massive drug trafficking investigation https://gangstersinc.org/blog/ghostface-gangsters-busted-in-georgia-after-massive-drug-traffick
Posted By: Liggio

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 01/21/23 07:59 AM

Mostly, all prison gangs are racist, but only the white prison gangs are called so. Prison, especially in the south and out west (I think the East Coast is different) is an extremely racist, segregated place. That's just how it is.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 01/21/23 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Mostly, all prison gangs are racist, but only the white prison gangs are called so. Prison, especially in the south and out west (I think the East Coast is different) is an extremely racist, segregated place. That's just how it is.


Once again, you are correct Liggio. ALL prison gangs are racist in nature. Especially by the very fact that prisons, ALL prisons, are segregated along racial divides.

Blacks stay with their own. So do Hispanics. And Whites, who are ALWAYS tremendously outnumbered in any prison setting, do the same. If only out of a self-survival mode. There is strength in numbers, and although outnumbered 30-40 to 1, if you get a gang "tip" of 20-30 like minded individuals together who watch one another's back, that's powerful.

Inmates are generally predatory by nature, and will pounce on anybody who is singled out as a sucker or as a mark. So everyone needs to have a few friends in there. And although state joints are the worst and this problem is more pervasive in local and state lockups, the federal system isn't that much better, especially maximum security joints like Atlanta, Lewisburg, Leavenworth, etc.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 01/21/23 10:07 AM

Definitely. The prison system in especially California and Texas is an extremely segregated place. An organization like the Aryan Brotherhood was born out of the fact that unaffiliated white inmates needed strength in numbers to protect themselves from the much larger Black and Hispanic organizations that were already established.

Nevertheless, when you talk to people who have done time in for instance the California prison system, it also becomes clear that it's not always racial.
For instance, inmates that are members of outlaw motorcycle groups (who tend to have both white and Hispanic members) mostly hang out with each other instead of joining other prison gangs.
Within the Hispanic group you have the clear division between the Southerners controlled by the Mexican Mafia - which are mostly members of Mexican gangs from the Los Angeles area as well as members of Salvadoran gangs - and the Northerners controlled by the Nuestra Familia - which are mostly members of Mexican gangs from Northern California. However, for some reason members of a gang like Armenian Power (Armenians being not a Hispanic, but rather a more Middle Eastern looking ethnic group) also tend to stick with the Hispanic Southerners.
Within the African American group there is a ton of division. You have Crips and Bloods that all come from different rival sets. You have black inmates from the Bay Area that don't uphold any Crip or Blood colors. All of these groups don't necessarily stick together. Sure, you got the Black Guerrilla Family (which has a substantial following among inmates from the Bay Area) but they have not been as successful in governing all black inmates like the Aryan Brotherhood did for unaffiliated white inmates, like the Mexican Mafia did for Sureño inmates and like the Nuestra Familia did for Norteño inmates.
The you also have the "Others", which is just a catch-all name for Asian and Pacific Islander inmates that come from a variety of gangs - mostly Vietnamese, Chinese, Cambodian, Hmong, Korean and Samoan. In spite of the ethnic differences they also seem to somewhat band together.

Important to note is that ALL of these groups do politic together. Despite the clear segregation, "racial wars" are basically non-existent and the vast majority of the violence being done by prison gangs is the result of these organizations cleaning up their OWN yard. A "peckerwood" misbehaves? A white shot caller is gonna ask to take care of him. A member of a Norteño set misbehaves? A Nuestra Familia shot caller is gonna get him done.

There are also internal politics in check. A lot of the Los Angeles area black gangs also have a ton of members that actually have Belizean ancestry instead of US-Born African American ancestry: Rollin' 30's Crips, Rollin' 40's Crips, Black P Stones Jungles and Fruit Town Brims for instance are notorious for having a disproportionate amount of Belizean members. And despite these gangs all having rival sets, members of Belizean ancestry often politic to make sure they don't have to whack each other.

So I 100% agree that all of the prison groups, especially in California and Texas, are racial...but there are also a lot of nuances.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 01/21/23 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Definitely. The prison system in especially California and Texas is an extremely segregated place. An organization like the Aryan Brotherhood was born out of the fact that unaffiliated white inmates needed strength in numbers to protect themselves from the much larger Black and Hispanic organizations that were already established.

Nevertheless, when you talk to people who have done time in for instance the California prison system, it also becomes clear that it's not always racial.
For instance, inmates that are members of outlaw motorcycle groups (who tend to have both white and Hispanic members) mostly hang out with each other instead of joining other prison gangs.
Within the Hispanic group you have the clear division between the Southerners controlled by the Mexican Mafia - which are mostly members of Mexican gangs from the Los Angeles area as well as members of Salvadoran gangs - and the Northerners controlled by the Nuestra Familia - which are mostly members of Mexican gangs from Northern California. However, for some reason members of a gang like Armenian Power (Armenians being not a Hispanic, but rather a more Middle Eastern looking ethnic group) also tend to stick with the Hispanic Southerners.
Within the African American group there is a ton of division. You have Crips and Bloods that all come from different rival sets. You have black inmates from the Bay Area that don't uphold any Crip or Blood colors. All of these groups don't necessarily stick together. Sure, you got the Black Guerrilla Family (which has a substantial following among inmates from the Bay Area) but they have not been as successful in governing all black inmates like the Aryan Brotherhood did for unaffiliated white inmates, like the Mexican Mafia did for Sureño inmates and like the Nuestra Familia did for Norteño inmates.
The you also have the "Others", which is just a catch-all name for Asian and Pacific Islander inmates that come from a variety of gangs - mostly Vietnamese, Chinese, Cambodian, Hmong, Korean and Samoan. In spite of the ethnic differences they also seem to somewhat band together.

Important to note is that ALL of these groups do politic together. Despite the clear segregation, "racial wars" are basically non-existent and the vast majority of the violence being done by prison gangs is the result of these organizations cleaning up their OWN yard. A "peckerwood" misbehaves? A white shot caller is gonna ask to take care of him. A member of a Norteño set misbehaves? A Nuestra Familia shot caller is gonna get him done.

There are also internal politics in check. A lot of the Los Angeles area black gangs also have a ton of members that actually have Belizean ancestry instead of US-Born African American ancestry: Rollin' 30's Crips, Rollin' 40's Crips, Black P Stones Jungles and Fruit Town Brims for instance are notorious for having a disproportionate amount of Belizean members. And despite these gangs all having rival sets, members of Belizean ancestry often politic to make sure they don't have to whack each other.

So I 100% agree that all of the prison groups, especially in California and Texas, are racial...but there are also a lot of nuances.


You make a good point, and I completely agree with you. Within these obvious ethnicities and races, they all have their own "sub-divisions," for lack of a better word.
Posted By: sonnyc

Re: White gangs that aren't racist gang - 04/03/23 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
@Furio
I don't know how many times I have name drop them but here:
Simon City Royals
C-Notes
12 st Players
Gaylord
Insane Popes
Insane Dueces.
Many Chicago Latino gangs have a sizeable white membership



All of this gang apart maybe c-notes are compost of latinos/black and whit men. I asked a gang comosted of all whites.
black family,I know that you posted this names but what asked is different;
Flushing thanks for answer. In italy are 70 y that fight fascist against comunists.


Incorrect. The Gaylords still are, and always were a majority white club. There were definitely hispanic members back in the day, but never close to a majority.
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