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Lcn and street gangs

Posted By: MeyerLansky

Lcn and street gangs - 12/22/17 08:40 AM

Lcn and steert gangs Are working together ?
Like the drugs, i mean are their supplies are coming from the lcn ?
And i notice that alot of bonannos made guys get arrested for dealing themselves on the streets, like why they don't they give it to some street dealers to sell it for them ?
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/22/17 09:48 AM

Probably because they dont want to split the profits between themselves and the street dealers. I mean on Staten Island from news reports anyway they are living in a community that is heavily addcited to pills and opioids why would they go outside to street gangs for?
Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/22/17 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Probably because they dont want to split the profits between themselves and the street dealers. I mean on Staten Island from news reports anyway they are living in a community that is heavily addcited to pills and opioids why would they go outside to street gangs for?

It's reduces the chance of getting caught.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/22/17 01:55 PM

Every family is connected to street gangs. They run the street and are at the bottom level of all street activity. In paterson and newark in particular I know for sure that three made guys from two different families have a strong relationship with multiple blood sets and one with grape st crips. This is fact.
Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/22/17 03:20 PM

Thanks bobby !
Posted By: SimonChen

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/22/17 05:09 PM

So do you think LCN always has a distance from street? It seems they do not really base on territory and always need some street gangs to do street level work, is that true? But there are also cases where they distribute drug themselves and they also engage in some street level crime very often.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/23/17 01:32 AM

@MeyerLansky

LCN & Street Orgs been working together for decades. Chicago Outfit & BPS/VL/MC/SGD/C-Notes have history and still remnants of it presently.
Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/23/17 04:11 AM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
@MeyerLansky

LCN & Street Orgs been working together for decades. Chicago Outfit & BPS/VL/MC/SGD/C-Notes have history and still remnants of it presently.

Thanks !
Yeah i guess in chicago they are working together more then with the other families like in ny and jersey
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/23/17 04:56 AM

Originally Posted By: MeyerLansky
Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
@MeyerLansky

LCN & Street Orgs been working together for decades. Chicago Outfit & BPS/VL/MC/SGD/C-Notes have history and still remnants of it presently.

Thanks !
Yeah i guess in chicago they are working together more then with the other families like in ny and jersey


I wouldn't say more just here and there. NYC will have the most activity with these groups.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/23/17 10:26 AM

Originally Posted By: SimonChen
So do you think LCN always has a distance from street? It seems they do not really base on territory and always need some street gangs to do street level work, is that true? But there are also cases where they distribute drug themselves and they also engage in some street level crime very often.


lcn is active in the white neighborhoods, where there are not even street gangs usually, these are their territories
i don't think they always need street gangs to do dirty work, sometimes, but they usually use internal people
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 02:17 AM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: SimonChen
So do you think LCN always has a distance from street? It seems they do not really base on territory and always need some street gangs to do street level work, is that true? But there are also cases where they distribute drug themselves and they also engage in some street level crime very often.



lcn is active in the white neighborhoods, where there are not even street gangs usually, these are their territories
i don't think they always need street gangs to do dirty work, sometimes, but they usually use internal people


There's street orgs near or in white neighborhoods too.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: SimonChen
So do you think LCN always has a distance from street? It seems they do not really base on territory and always need some street gangs to do street level work, is that true? But there are also cases where they distribute drug themselves and they also engage in some street level crime very often.



lcn is active in the white neighborhoods, where there are not even street gangs usually, these are their territories
i don't think they always need street gangs to do dirty work, sometimes, but they usually use internal people


There's street orgs near or in white neighborhoods too.

I know suburban white kids with top positions in traditional street gangs like blood, crip, and Latin Kings. You go to prison in Jersey and you will see white kids banging all these sets. It's a new day and some of them are nothing to play with.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 11:50 AM

There's the pic of that made guys son from Staten Island with the tats on his face the 5 star G tat on his neck and the SMM tat under his right eye for sex money murder a huge blood set although they started as an independent gang out of sound view Bronx by pistol Pete rollock. I know my shit when it comes to this. This is all facts.
Posted By: SimonChen

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: SimonChen
So do you think LCN always has a distance from street? It seems they do not really base on territory and always need some street gangs to do street level work, is that true? But there are also cases where they distribute drug themselves and they also engage in some street level crime very often.



lcn is active in the white neighborhoods, where there are not even street gangs usually, these are their territories
i don't think they always need street gangs to do dirty work, sometimes, but they usually use internal people


There's street orgs near or in white neighborhoods too.

I was wondering, if there are large white gangs in the prison system, why are there only a few on the street? Im not talking ahout MCs or LCN or other smaller mafia groups, I mean the street gang.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily

There's street orgs near or in white neighborhoods too.


yes, but very few compared to black and latinos neighborhoods
i doubt there are street gangs in dyker hights, troggs neck or howard beach, just to say some
Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 03:21 PM

Street gangster have respect for made guys ?
Posted By: DB

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 03:25 PM

I would trust BP comments on this. Gambling and loan sharking should probably be a focus area for wise guys today like they were back in the day with policy rackets as it’s new turf for them and lower / better profile

With drug dealing you shouldn’t be selling to people you don’t really know. Now if
Your boy knows some pepes then you go thru him and let him get his taste and deal with downside but wise guys aren’t in the power position like they were in the 70s / 80s so just trying to set up shop with street guys your just gonna get robbed or rolled on - just a shitty biz profile . Even dealing with your own you gonna get fucked over but at a lower rate to where it’s usually a cost of doing business and you can eat it but fucking with street gangs you loosely know , straight disaster down the road.

What’s a wise guy gonna do today if a blood set on Avon Ave NWK beats you on a kilo?, nothing . Having said that tho , I’m sure a bunch of guys got tight when locked up and do business when they are out like BP said . LCN aren’t nearly the volume wholesalers they were, which leaves them exposed
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/24/17 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: SimonChen
Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: SimonChen
So do you think LCN always has a distance from street? It seems they do not really base on territory and always need some street gangs to do street level work, is that true? But there are also cases where they distribute drug themselves and they also engage in some street level crime very often.



lcn is active in the white neighborhoods, where there are not even street gangs usually, these are their territories
i don't think they always need street gangs to do dirty work, sometimes, but they usually use internal people


There's street orgs near or in white neighborhoods too.

I was wondering, if there are large white gangs in the prison system, why are there only a few on the street? Im not talking ahout MCs or LCN or other smaller mafia groups, I mean the street gang.


Depends on who and where are speaking about in general. Ex: Simon City Royals are the largest white street org with membership in Illinois, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, & Mississippi. Their size vary by location and their m.o could be different in each place. It's not so much as being smaller as moving discreetly.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/25/17 04:00 PM

white criminals are more prone to enjoy organized crime (lcn etc.), bikers and aryan brotherhoods than street gangs
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/25/17 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
white criminals are more prone to enjoy organized crime (lcn etc.), bikers and aryan brotherhoods than street gangs


Not entirely true.
Posted By: Neo

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/30/17 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: m2w
white criminals are more prone to enjoy organized crime (lcn etc.), bikers and aryan brotherhoods than street gangs


Not entirely true.


Mostly true though.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/30/17 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Neo
Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: m2w
white criminals are more prone to enjoy organized crime (lcn etc.), bikers and aryan brotherhoods than street gangs


Not entirely true.


Mostly true though.


Mostly untrue though.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/30/17 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: Neo
Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Originally Posted By: m2w
white criminals are more prone to enjoy organized crime (lcn etc.), bikers and aryan brotherhoods than street gangs


Not entirely true.


Mostly true though.


Mostly untrue though.

You can't tell some people shit. You got Bobby P, a guy who's been around the block, telling you exactly what it is in this exact thread and they wanna bury their head in the sand... Ya gotta wonder why..
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 12/31/17 11:11 PM

@RollinBones
I think it's media misconception along with heavy documentaries focusing on the rehashed theme. Along with Hollywood movies creating this cliche as all mobsters are suit wearing multimillionaires and gangbangers can't figure out 2+2=4. Reality is hard to sell when you a history of stereotypes.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/01/18 12:11 AM

Check out all of the mafia fanboys on youtube. Their only interest in the mob is the race angle, that the mob had "class" while the "gang bangers sag their pants and talk like 10 year olds", etc.

The mob dressed classy back in the day because everyone did, including poor people of all races. Everyone wore suits in the 1940s. lol.
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/01/18 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Check out all of the mafia fanboys on youtube. Their only interest in the mob is the race angle, that the mob had "class" while the "gang bangers sag their pants and talk like 10 year olds", etc.

The mob dressed classy back in the day because everyone did, including poor people of all races. Everyone wore suits in the 1940s. lol.


This here is a display of superpower called Common Sense in bold for everyone. Fact is that most of the household name street gangs all started during a time frame in which the style reflect what's popular in that ethnic community. Sagging didn't start showing up in mass appeal style into late 90s. By then 3-5 decades of gang membership fashion style have went & gone as usual.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/01/18 07:58 AM

Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
[Mostly untrue though.


do you have statistics about it? i bet that 90% of street gang members in the states are black and latinos
there are white street gangs, yes, but very few
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/02/18 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: m2w
Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
[Mostly untrue though.


do you have statistics about it? i bet that 90% of street gang members in the states are black and latinos
there are white street gangs, yes, but very few


Literally check the FBI website for all the past Rico cases/indictments and list all the street gangs cases. It's not that difficult to go check. According to recent 'estimate' on the U.S gang demographics, Latino & Black collectively makes up 81.5% while Whites are 11%. It actually varies by other factors as well. The highest percentage of White gangs are in Smaller Cities & Rural Counties.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/02/18 08:48 AM

so i'm right white are only 11% of street gangs members
most of the whites enjoy organized crime and bikers
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/02/18 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
so i'm right white are only 11% of street gangs members
most of the whites enjoy organized crime and bikers


How does that equate to them enjoying organized crime? You obviously forgetting the various Black & Latino criminal groups that aren't street gangs. You could go down my old topics and see that.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/02/18 03:51 PM

blacks are 14% of population, hispanic are 18%, whites are 50%
so it's logic white are more prone to enjoy oc and bikers
Posted By: BlackFamily

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/02/18 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
blacks are 14% of population, hispanic are 18%, whites are 50%
so it's logic white are more prone to enjoy oc and bikers


Being the majority/ minority of any population is a minuscule factor. Generally OC goes on in each one of those communities individually and your percentage is incorrect. Also, Italians makes up 6% of the US population and still have a considerable underworld.

Street Gangs are nonetheless a trail mix in the underworld. You have those with ties directly to Mexican DTOs alongside ties with Italian OC, East European OC, Nigerian OC, and 1% Motorcycle Clubs.
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/03/18 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Check out all of the mafia fanboys on youtube. Their only interest in the mob is the race angle, that the mob had "class" while the "gang bangers sag their pants and talk like 10 year olds", etc.

The mob dressed classy back in the day because everyone did, including poor people of all races. Everyone wore suits in the 1940s. lol.


This is really it in a nutshell. Guys get their little superiority fix by somehow believing criminals that look more like them are superior to darker skinned ones. Strange thing to feel comfort in but hey, get your kicks where you can.

Guys in here posting population stats but when it comes to the big picture that has little to do with it. But I see from this thread and others a lot of people don't really want to understand, they want things to fit the views they already have.

I think this is even more true with a lot of our European posters. No offense to you guys, but some of you sound fuckin ridiculous and have no clue what you're talking about. Crime and gangs in America are only concepts to you guys, you don't understand the reality and it looks like you don't make much of an effort to. I see the same things when guys from Europe wonder why there aren't any viable mob families in towns like Kansas City or on the West Coast and guys come up with ridiculous theories about how those families could become viable again. Some of you are truly detached from reality, so it's disappointing to see you guys not soak up the game that's given to you on this site from people that really know what they're talking about. Anyway, back to more of the usual..
Posted By: m2w

Re: Lcn and street gangs - 01/03/18 10:13 AM

Originally Posted By: RollinBones
I think this is even more true with a lot of our European posters. No offense to you guys, but some of you sound fuckin ridiculous and have no clue what you're talking about. Crime and gangs in America are only concepts to you guys, you don't understand the reality


an european can't know the american crime scene like the americans of course, same for the opposite anyway
some american think mexican supply european drug market when actually they are barely involved
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