Sammy "The Bull" Gravano released from prison

Lying rat Sammy is now free. Reality TV series is coming soon!


https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailyne...ticle-1.3509678

Interesting to see what happens with him in the future.

Maybe he'll stay quiet and just disappear this time.

He's a charismatic guy.

I hope he does press interviews and maybe catches up with Diane Sawyer.

I want him to explain how he could've fucked things up so badly.

Any one seen karen gravanos daughter on instagram wow. Lordy lordy. Dam she was just a little girl on that tv show shes all grown up. Giving that jenner chick a run for the money.

Thought karen would have posted a pic by now. Wonder if theres gonna be some shitty reality show. I doubt it. What happend to that guys show that was in arizona shellackhead did it air?

I think the ONLY way that he may find peace, and be able to earn a living is, with a reality type show.

Leonetti seems to have adjusted to average Joe life but who really knows?

Something tells me he is gonna jam himself up again.

I wish him the best though. Taking 19+ lives is a VERY tough thing to find peace with.

Time will tell!

Do you think he's safe or should we start a "Sammy Pool"?

Maybe he will start selling drugs again and will be back home soon ("home", I mean prison)?

Hey sammy the fentanyl is all the rage in the noreast today.

The reason gravano got the deal he did when he testified against Gotti was because he DIDNT kill 19 people. He only pulled the trigger on one guy. He helped plan and set a bunch of guys up to be cliped but thats it.
The media always refers to Gravano as some type of serial killer and they xlaim he killed 19 people. Its like , get your fuckin facts straight...
He is over 70, what kind of crimes could he commit now??? Its not like he left prison a captain...his life of crime is done.

He pulled the trigger on Colucci and Fiala, right?

And he was the distraction when Di Bernardo was killed.

Any possibility he did that one himself?

Well, Sonny Franzese last time did it at 93. Although that depends on the health and being stubborn, don't know about Gravano...

Not Fiala, that was Louie Milito.

very good H..

I think Sammy is just like Henry Hill. He told a story that minimized his role in murders and drugs. I bet he pulled the trigger on more then just one.

Raging Bull jake la motta dies and the bull gravano went out of jail.Coincidence? I don't think so.

Lol can you imagine if sammy starts moving coke or heroin in about a month with contacts he made while he was inside

Definitely !!

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09...eshort_home_pop

The fact that Sammy only got the initial 5 year sentence shows how desperate the Feds were to nail Gotti.

Even if Sammy would have pulled the trigger on all 19,plus blew up a schoolbus,and kicked a puppy to death on the way home,this scumbag would have still basically copped a walk. Then he turns around and rubs their face in it with his Ecstasy ring.

After that I'm surprised that he didn't serve out the max.

On the bright side, even at his age he can still earn. I'm sure there's big money in Medicare fraud and bootleg Viagra.

If they told him he would have to serve 20 years he would have taken it...They were so grateful that they got their big conviction they threw justice out the window !!

The guy brought down an OC administration and, theoretically, ceased criminal activities himself.

The feds set him and his family up with employment and a new life in a nice part of the country, certainly no backwoods shithole, and such was his natural proclivity towards crime he ended up getting his entire family jammed up again.

What more can they do?

These people are incapable of working hard for a living.

It's the same with Joe De Fede moaning about the Feds not financially babysitting him for the rest of his life. Other rats like Massino and Leonetti were allowed to keep money that should've been repatriated.

The co-operation of rats is intrinsic to getting these vermin off the streets.

It's not unique to OC.

In the UK, a huge pedo ring was brought down thanks to a cooperating pedo and he didn't get ANY jail time.

Moe- thats a good point, for as much as I enjoy reading and watching mob shit, it boils down to most of them bein like Sammy too lazy to work a real 9-5 and not cut corners

That's interesting you mentioned about Joe Defede, I recall reading about him complaining about witsec, did he go back to criminal life?.. do u or anyone else happen to locate that article on him drom the early 200s I believe?

Consider Long John tried to take back his rackets in his 70s

Some of u think age/ physical strength plays a role on the streets

This ain't no ufc fight!! Give Sammy a gun and car, he'll always be a danger

Edit

I'm also surprised u believe everything the rat and his handlers say, of COURSE they're going to downplay his murders. Sammy was well known to blame others for pulling the trigger, especially dead guys who can't claim otherwise

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/nyregion/02mafia.html

Think it's this one, Mikey.

Sammy the Bull Gravano is a free man, but more importantly a poster boy for the dangers of dealing with gangsters

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/bl...rtantly-a-poste

Hopefully He'll turn up dead one day..and His fat ass daughter will disappear..Don't know how those so called "Mob Wives" put up with her.

They're all breaking omerta in the strictest sense of the word.

[quote=Lou_Para]The fact that Sammy only got the initial 5 year sentence shows how desperate the Feds were to nail Gotti.

Even if Sammy would have pulled the trigger on all 19,plus blew up a schoolbus,and kicked a puppy to death on the way home,this scumbag would have still basically copped a walk. Then he turns around and rubs their face in it with his Ecstasy ring.

After that I'm surprised that he didn't serve out the max.

On the bright side, even at his age he can still


Besides the conviction of Mr. Gotti, Mr. Gleeson cited Mr. Gravano's help in the case against Thomas Gambino, the son of the Gambino family's namesake, the late Carlo Gambino. A once powerful figure in the city's Garment District trucking business, with a reputation as a contributor to charity, Thomas Gambino was found guilty last year of racketeering charges that accused him of being a Gambino family captain.

The prosecutor also mentioned Victor J. Orena, acting boss of the Colombo family -- another of the five Mafia groups in New York City -- who was convicted of murder and racketeering in 1992. Mr. Gravano, Mr. Gleeson said, was also expected to provide vital testimony at the future proceedings in the murder and racketeering case against Vincent Gigante, reputed head of the Genovese crime family.


Below is the 5k1 letter to the Judge in 1994 for cooperating and to give him 5 years.

"What has made the Mafia so little understood and in many respects romanticized," I said, "is the cupidity of its victim which is society at large and the folk-hero proportions in which its leaders have been portrayed. They have been portrayed as Godfathers, as Teflon Dons, as neighborhood benefactors. The public hasn't fully understood the pernicious influence that organized crime has exerted and still exerts in countless ways that affect our daily lives." (Tr. 51-52)

The criminal history of Gravano was recounted as was the extensive assistance he provided to the United States Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs and its Permanent Sub-Committee on Investigations[2] and to the government in the prosecution of significant criminals. In that regard the government wrote that he was "the most significant witness in the history of organized crime in the United States." (Tr. 60)

The criminal history of Salvatore Gravano was discussed by the government against the backdrop of La Cosa Nostra within which that history was made. Much of that history was revealed to the government for the first time and, but for his telling of it, would never have been known (Tr. 24). Much has been written about his involvement in 19 murders with respect to which "there are plenty of nuances." (Tr. 20) An appreciation and understanding of those "nuances" can be had only by a reading of the transcript of the testimony of Salvatore Gravano at the trial of John Gotti and Frank LoCascio which extended over many days.

On the day Gravano was to be sentenced there were "37 convictions, nine people awaiting trial, eight people resigned from the unions as a result of Gravano's cooperation." (Tr. 45) and the government recounted and explained the enormous significance of each to law enforcement and to society. I again quote from the government's presentation to the court: "What we have learned from the cooperation of Gravano, and this should have been no surprise to us, but in this instance it was a surprise to me and to those of us on the prosecution team, that organized crime's influences in the communities in this city in unbelievably vast." (Tr. 30
The government related the collateral impact of Gravano's cooperation upon people who came to testify against organized crime "influenced by the fact that Salvatore Gravano turned his back on the mob .... What we heard from informants, what we heard from the people who followed Gravano in to become a cooperating witness was that when Salvatore Gravano cooperated, it did not indicate that there was something wrong with Salvatore Gravano, but it indicated that there was something very wrong with the mob ..." (Tr. 47-48)

"The benefit to society has been the incarceration of major criminals; the disarray of organized crime families; the cleansing of corrupt labor unions; the impetus which his decision to cooperate has given to others to do the same and the beneficial consequences of the domino effect of that decision and many other benefits which, although not presently identifiable, are certain to follow." (Tr. 70)

Adverting to the benefits realized by society as a result of his cooperation, a series of questions were believed to provide a more focused assessment of that.


*282 "Would society be better served if he hadn't cooperated and John Gotti and the Gambino organized crime family continued undisturbed?

Would society be better served if he hadn't cooperated and the construction industry continued to be dominated by organized crime?

Would society be better served if he hadn't cooperated and organized crime's involvement in heroin trafficking were to continue undetected?

Would society be better served if he hadn't cooperated and it had never learned that juries were tampered with in major criminal cases so that that pernicious endeavor can continue?

Would society be better served if he hadn't cooperated and it had never learned of a mole in the New York Police Department who was undermining the efforts of conscientious police officers to combat organized crime?

Would society be better served if he hadn't cooperated and they never learned of the influence of organized crime over the carting industry; the garment center; the docks; the teamster's union; the longshoremen's union; the carpenter's union?

Those questions can be multiplied but the correct answers to each are hardly in doubt.

I am aware that in the balance must be placed Salvatore Gravano's criminal past. It is a past in which his participation in many murders has been acknowledged. I do not minimize those murders, even the murder of gangsters and criminals as all of them were, and not the murders of fortuitous and otherwise innocent victims. They were murders committed within the crooked parameters of organized crime and in a real sense were peculiar to that warped way of life.

The weights on each side of the balance are unique to this defendant and to this case. They don't lend themselves to a true balance. There has never been a defendant of his stature in organized crime who has made the leap that he has made from one social planet to another. There has never been a defendant whose impact upon organized crime and the suffocating hold of that criminal octopus upon industry and labor has been so important and so extensive.

Because this case is so unique, the traditional underpinnings of sentencing have neither meaning nor application. Incapacitation has no relevance. The countless experienced prosecutors and federal agents who have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours with him over the past three years are unanimous in their belief that he no longer poses a threat to this or any other community. They are unanimous in the belief that he has irrevocably broken with his past and has committed himself totally in continuing to assist the government and its law enforcement agencies in any way that he may be called upon to do.

General deterrence is similarly inapposite. Because his stature in organized crime is so unique, it would be fatuous to believe that the sentence imposed would encourage others to emulate his past. His unprecedented decision to cooperate, has, rather, encouraged others to follow his lead and may, as a 28 year veteran of the FBI wrote in a letter I received just this morning, provide food for thought for those young people growing up in a neighborhood where the propensity for a life of crime is high and that they will look at him and realize it isn't worth it.

Having as carefully and as consciously as I have the ability to do attempted to heft those unique weights on either side, in consideration of the enormity of his criminal past, but also the enormity of the contributions in which his assistance has rendered to the government and to society at large, I am prepared to impose a sentence."

i wish they'd release transcripts of some of the trials that gravano testified at. for some reason there are a few full transcripts of DiLeonardo's testimony from Gotti Junior and Anthony Antico's trials . would be great to get transcripts of Orena or even Gotti senior's trials.

one of sammy's most ridiculous hits was the one where he sold the nightclub in gravesend to the coke dealer, took 3/4ths of the purchase price under the table, then shot him outside of the club on opening night

https://www.amazon.com/Gotti-Tapes-Sammy-Bull-Gravano-ebook/dp/B0083L10J8

That book, as well as providing transcripts of the tapes that helped put Gotti away, also has an edited version of Gravano's testimony at Gotti's trial.

Regular Joe Rogan podcast guest, Joey Diaz, talks about the witness protection program and Sammy Gravano @ 3:15 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv6WFPz5wMI

First of all you have to take anything Diaz says with a pinch of salt, as he sounds a bit like a fantasist, but, he says that Gravano refused to go into the W.P.P. unless the Feds picked up his loansharking payments, which they agreed to, such was their desperation to nail Gotti.

Has anyone ever heard something like this before?

I call BS. Mikey Scars testified that he and Huck Carbonaro were assigned by Junior Gotti to collect the money Gravano still had on the street after he flipped.

http://mafiahistory.us/nw-dileop05.html

joey diaz is funny. he said massino has a italian restaurant in albuquerque.

i believe it to he said it matter of fact not jokingly

Old article on Sammy....

http://www.capitalcentury.com/1981.html


How's my girl Ramona doing?

https://www.thewrap.com/mtv-made-in-staten-island-reality-show-karen-gravano/

What are the chances that Sammy appears in this?

Just going to show how low caucasians have gone .

sammy gravano and his family represent all caucasians now?

Hope not .... but I spend time up there with family SI pretty shady and the caucasians are moving in that direction.

the grand daughter is a smokeshow. think her dads black or spanish but shes hott. like 21 thicccccc. thats all.

karen and ramona have a pizzeria in nj

Fame will get you so far. Hopefully the food is good to where customers keep coming back, then there are prices to worry about, too high and not good food, they won't last long.

Moe, I could see Sammy appearing in that show for some sort of big family get together, or he is so weak that Karen has to take care of him.