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Posted By: LuanKuci

The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/24/17 08:03 PM

The Mafia is all but dead in Western New York. So what killed it?
By Dan Herbeck
Published Sun, Mar 19, 2017

http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/19/fbi-says-buffalos-mafia-family-ceased-operations/

Stefano Magaddino, “the old man” who lived in a nondescript ranch house in Lewiston, once ruled the mob in Buffalo and Niagara Falls with an iron fist.

One signal to his underbosses – raising his hand above his head at the mention of a name – and Magaddino had men killed. As many as 26 during just one short period of time, according to one retired investigator whose expertise was the Mafia.

The local mob raked in millions of dollars every year through gambling, prostitution, loansharking, pornography, extortion, robbery, burglary and other crimes that touched thousands of families all over Western New York, federal and state agents said.

Magaddino died almost 43 years ago at age 82.

Now, the Mafia itself is all but dead in Western New York.

The local FBI once had a large squad of agents working full time on mob cases, but the agency no longer considers the Mafia a presence in this region, according to Adam S. Cohen, special agent in charge of the Buffalo FBI office.

“Some of the individuals who were leaders of the Mafia are still around,” Cohen said. “But their organized crime activities don’t exist anymore. Some of them have legitimate businesses that we know of.”

Though several local men succeeded Magaddino as leaders following his death, no one leads what is left of the mob in this region, Cohen said. Several retired state and local law enforcement officials who specialized in Mafia investigations agreed.

So what killed the mob?

The federal crackdown on Laborers Local 210 and New York state’s proliferation of gambling. And perhaps a successful pizza enterprise, too.

“The Mafia, and the way of life that fostered the Mafia, is pretty much gone,” said Lee Coppola, 73, a former federal prosecutor and news reporter who grew up among mobsters and their families on Buffalo’s West Side.

“Most of the men who were responsible for the mob murders in Buffalo are dead,” he said. “The hit men who committed the murders are dead.”

And no young people have emerged to replace them, Coppola said.

The Quiet Don

There is no dispute over who was the most dominating figure in Buffalo’s organized crime history.

That would be Magaddino, a frugal, anything-but-flashy individual who lived in an unremarkable ranch home on Dana Drive in Lewiston. His mob dynasty extended far beyond Western New York into Ohio, Ontario and parts of Pennsylvania.

The Sicilian native was a Mafia soldier in New York City before moving to Western New York. He was quiet by nature, but he was an astute leader who did not hesitate to use violence, said George E. Karalus, a retired mob investigator with the State Police who wrote a book on Magaddino with Buffalo News reporter Matt Gryta.

“They called him ‘the old man.’ He didn’t say all that much. But when a man’s name would come up for discussion at a meeting, if Magaddino gave a signal by raising his hand up over his head, that man was a dead man,” Karalus said. “He had that much power. He was a good family man, loved by a lot of people, but he was also a killer. We had information that he once ordered 26 different men to be killed because he heard they made remarks making fun of him.”

“People thought they were there to break up the country into different territories for criminal activity,” Karalus said. “What they really wanted to do was to plan a takeover of the entire U.S. economy – the clothing industry, unions, the food industry, entertainment and everything else. Magaddino was a big part of that. He was the boss of bosses, the most powerful mob boss in America at that time.”

The meeting turned out to be a fiasco. Troopers learned about the meeting and were waiting. They arrested 58 mobsters, including some of the most powerful Mafia leaders in the nation.

Magaddino lost some face with his fellow mob leaders after Apalachin, Karalus said, but he continued to wield a lot of influence in Western New York.

“He truly was a godfather,” said Coppola, who wrote many stories about Magaddino for The Buffalo News in the 1960s and 1970s. “Just like the one you saw in the movies.”

The 1960s may have been the peak of the Mafia influence in the Buffalo region. As many as 200 “made men” – officially sanctioned mob members – ran criminal operations in Buffalo and Niagara Falls during that decade, all answering to Magaddino, Coppola said.

By 1989, the FBI counted 45 “made men” in Buffalo and Niagara Falls.

Today, both Cohen and Coppola estimate that there are no more than a handful of surviving mob members in the area, with no viable organization to unite them, and no leader.

“There are a few remnants of the mob that still exist in Buffalo,” said Ronald Fino, a former union leader who helped the FBI investigate the local mob, “but it’s not the same.”

Local 210

The Buffalo Mafia’s power base and most valuable asset for decades was Laborers Local 210. Control of the laborers union gave the mob an inside role in multimillion dollar construction projects all over the region. While many of the union’s members were honest and hard workers, others did little or no work by virtue of their connections. Mobsters were able to get well-paid jobs – including some no-show jobs – through the union for Mafia soldiers, their friends and family members.

And the Mafia ruthlessly controlled the union.

In 1980, when one union member started giving information to the FBI, a team of assassins gunned him down in broad daylight at a Main Street construction site.

Later that year, the body of man who served as a consultant to a mob-tied dental clinic that provided treatment to Local 210 members was found in the trunk of a car. Police never learned why.

“For at least the past 25 years, the Buffalo La Cosa Nostra has exercised considerable influence, if not complete control, over the affairs of Local 210,” an attorney for the international laborers union declared in late 1995.

Fino played an instrumental role breaking the Mafia’a grip on Laborers Local 210. His late father, Joseph, had been a powerful mob figure. And Ronald Fino held a leadership position in the local for 15 years. But he abruptly left his union job in 1989 and disappeared from Buffalo.

Fino later revealed that he had been helping the FBI with information for years, even advising agents on where to install listening devices in the old Local 210 union hall on Buffalo’s Franklin Street.

With Fino working as a paid expert and government witness with inside information, the government crackdown on the union began in 1995 and ended in 2006. Dozens of individuals with alleged mob ties were booted out of the union. Joseph Todaro Jr., the late Leonard Falzone and Frank “Butchie Bifocals” BiFulco were among those forced out of union leadership positions.

“Once we got them out of Local 210, that was the beginning of the end for the Buffalo mob,” said Andrew Goralski, a former Buffalo FBI agent who retired in 2007. “That was their power source in Buffalo.”

The federal government then had oversight of the union. John J. O’Donnell, a retired FBI agent, spent six years working with union leaders as a court-appointed liaison officer.

In 2006, Justice Department officials declared that the mob no longer ran the Local 210.

Fall of the bookmakers

Gambling – on sporting events, horse racing, dice games, card games and numbers – provided a huge source of revenue for the Buffalo mob.

Mobsters also made big money off gambling-related crimes, especially loansharking rings that loaned money to gamblers at gigantic interest rates. Those who didn’t meet their debts knew that broken legs, or worse, were penalties.

At one time during Magaddino’s reign, according to Coppola, the mob leader’s share of the proceeds from one gambling location in an old firehouse on Seneca Street in Buffalo came to $25,000 a week. The mob made that money from people playing a high-stakes card game called siganette.

But then New York state became a competitor with legalized gambling. The state’s lottery, legalized casinos and off-track horse betting parlors made the Mafia’s bookmaking programs less attractive.

The proliferation of legalized gambling decimated the profits of organized crime families all over America, said Scott M. Deitche, a mob historian in St. Petersburg, Fla., who has written six books about the Mafia.

“Outside of a few big cities like New York and Chicago, the mob doesn’t have much influence anymore,” Deitche said. “It’s not just Buffalo. Cities like Tampa, Denver, St. Louis, Cleveland, San Jose and San Francisco all used to have substantial mob families. Not anymore.”

Deitche and former Erie County District Attorney Frank J. Clark cited another factor for the demise of Mafia families.

The fall of “Omerta”

One of the most important concepts in the Mafia code of conduct was “omerta.” That is an Italian word referring to the mob’s code of silence about criminal activity and its refusal to give evidence to police.

The most often-cited example of omerta in Buffalo’s mob was an incident that occurred on the city’s West Side in June 1976. Mob leaders that year ordered the killing of Faust Novino, a mob associate and drug dealer. Novino was invited to a meeting in a social club on Connecticut Street, where five mob henchmen, carrying firearms and other weapons, waited in the dark.

Sensing that something was wrong, Novino showed up with his own gun. He began firing at the would-be assassins before they could shoot him.

Some of Novino’s bullets struck a big target – a portly mobster named John C. Sacco.

Police officers quickly arrived.

"Who shot you?" one officer asked the fallen and bleeding Sacco.

“Nobody shot me,” Sacco answered.

And he refused to cooperate in the investigation.

But 14 years later, toward the end of his life, Sacco’s devotion to omerta turned. He became an FBI informant.

He had become one of many mobsters, in Buffalo and other cities, who turned their backs on omerta in their own self-interest.

“Omerta began to go by the wayside,” Coppola said.

Cooperating mobsters helped government prosecutors put hundreds of cohorts in prison all over the country, including John Gotti. The notorious New York City mob leader died in prison in 2002.

Here in Buffalo, Leonard F. Falzone, long identified by the FBI as a mob enforcer and leader of loansharking operations, was sentenced to federal prison for five years in 1996. A trusted comrade turned against him, testified at Falzone’s trial and joined the federal Witness Protection Program.

Falzone, whom prosecutors had called one of the region’s most feared mob figures in his prime, died of an illness late last year. He was 81.

Pizza too lucrative

The FBI maintained for decades that the Todaro family of Buffalo – the late Joseph Todaro and his son, Joseph Todaro Jr. – were the bosses of the Buffalo mob family after Magaddino died. But federal agents never proved that allegation in court.

Joseph Todaro Sr. died in 2012. And his son continued to run and expand the family’s popular La Nova Pizza on Buffalo’s West Side.

The belief among law enforcement officials now is that La Nova pizza is so successful that Todaro Jr. would be too busy to be involved in mob activities, according to Fino, Deitch, Coppola, Clark, Goralski and other sources.

A food industry website called Pizza Marketplace in 2002 described La Nova as the “world’s busiest pizzeria” and reported that the Todaros’ business had annual gross sales of $5 million – nearly 10 times the per-store average of the U.S. pizza industry.

“I think Joe T. Jr. has moved on from the mob, years ago,” Fino said.

A News reporter called Todaro Jr., 71, at his popular La Nova pizzeria earlier this month to seek his comments on the FBI’s contention that the Buffalo mob family no longer is active and no longer has a leader.

Todaro politely declined to comment on any aspect of organized crime, just as he has done several times in years past.

“All I can tell you is, I’m here working at my restaurant seven days a week, just as my father did, just as my family did, just as I have since I was 12 years old,” Todaro Jr. told The News.

“I’m not going to comment” on organized crime questions, he said, “but if you want a great recipe for cheese and pepperoni, I’ll tell you.”
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/24/17 08:08 PM

some comments under this article over at buffalo news are amazing
god bless internet commenting!

edit:

so apparently they published this article on St. Joseph's Day, which is to italians from the buffalo area what San Gennaro is to italians down in NYC. Plenty are pissed.
My favorite comment so far: "The mafia you project in this article took better care of the Italian West Side than the church."
Posted By: Ryan98366

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/24/17 09:16 PM

Good article!
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/24/17 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
some comments under this article over at buffalo news are amazing
god bless internet commenting!

edit:

so apparently they published this article on St. Joseph's Day, which is to italians from the buffalo area what San Gennaro is to italians down in NYC. Plenty are pissed.
My favorite comment so far: "The mafia you project in this article took better care of the Italian West Side than the church."


What about this one:

Matt Ricchiazzi · Cornell University
''A white guy makes an investment and it's called private equity. An Italian makes an investment and its called the mafia. The racism propogated against these gentlemen is appaling -- and on one of the most holy of Italian holidays nonetheless.''

So now Italians aren't white? LOL
Posted By: Ryan98366

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/24/17 10:44 PM

Some Italians are white. Some are not. Lol
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 04:40 AM

That was a good one. Thanks LuanKuci. I'd be interested in checking out the Maggadino book.

One mobster that doesn't get talked about enough is John C. Montana. Buffalo consigliere who was also a city councilman and nearly a member of congress.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: MightyDR
That was a good one. Thanks LuanKuci. I'd be interested in checking out the Maggadino book.

One mobster that doesn't get talked about enough is John C. Montana. Buffalo consigliere who was also a city councilman and nearly a member of congress.


Anecdote about Montana, from Joe Bonanno's book:

"We all boarded the same train for Chicago. In Buffalo, Stefano Magaddino and his right-hand man John Montana and Pete Magaddino, my cousin, also got on the train. Maranzano got off the train to make a phone call. A half hour passed; Maranzano didn’t return. The train was scheduled to leave the station momentarily. It was unthinkable to abandon Maranzano.

Montana got off the train. Montana was an illustrious man in Buffalo. He owned the cab company, and at one time he was the city’s deputy mayor. When he returned to our compartment, Montana told us he had arranged for the train to wait until Maranzano came back. This exhibition of clout impressed us greatly. After Maranzano boarded again and we were on our way, my cousin Stefano beamed with pride.

“See what kind of men I have under me?” Stefano said. “John can stop trains.”
Posted By: AdamRski

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 05:22 PM

Oh my god that was an awful article in my opinion. Maggadino hade 26 guys killed one because they were making fun of him? Buffalo at one point had 200 made members? Ugh.
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 05:49 PM

this article is basically the same article the local media has been writing about the magaddino family for the past 40 years. take it with a grain of salt. yes the buffalo family did have 200 members at one point, perhaps more.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: AdamRski
Oh my god that was an awful article in my opinion. Maggadino hade 26 guys killed one because they were making fun of him? Buffalo at one point had 200 made members? Ugh.


200 made men its impossible with this numbers would be impossibile that the film now is defunct.

In this chart are listed 4 liutenents aka capos
[img:center]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/mafi...=20160416190909[/img]


In the late 1960s there was a war between pieri/frangipane faction and magaddino loyalists and also in the Donnie Brasco book lefty said about the commission that they (men in buffalo) put out the machine guns because NY Commission ordered him to stop killing.
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 06:41 PM

furio, 200 made men at one time , sometime in the 1950's/early 1960's.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: AdamRski
Oh my god that was an awful article in my opinion. Maggadino hade 26 guys killed one because they were making fun of him? Buffalo at one point had 200 made members? Ugh.


200 made men its impossible with this numbers would be impossibile that the film now is defunct.

In this chart are listed 4 liutenents aka capos
[img:center]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/mafi...=20160416190909[/img]


In the late 1960s there was a war between pieri/frangipane faction and magaddino loyalists and also in the Donnie Brasco book lefty said about the commission that they (men in buffalo) put out the machine guns because NY Commission ordered him to stop killing.


I don't know about 200, but from the 30's to 60's the Buffalo family was one of the biggest and most powerful families outside NY. They wouldn't have gotten a Commission seat if they were small potatoes.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 07:32 PM

What remain of the buffalo mob

Joseph Todaro Jr. b.1947
Leonard Falzone b.1935 last boss now retired
Frank "Butchie Bifocals" BiFulco b.1945
Russell "Russ" Carcone b.1954
Joseph "Joey Paps" Pugliese
Ignazio "Harold" Bordonaro
Pasquale "Paddy" Brindisi b.1942
Corrado"Cookie" Caruso
Paul "Paulie" Cipolla
Robert "Bobby" Colao
Philip "Phil" Corelli b.1963
Ralph Criminisi
Bruno "Bronzie" DePaolo b.1967
Joseph "Joey Dips" DePaolo
Michael "Mike" DePaolo
Frank Falzone b.1950
James "Jimmy" Feliciano b.1977
Frank Ferraro b.1943
Frank Grisanti
Dominic Italiano
Vincent "Vinny" Lombardo
Frank Marino b.1940
Robert "Bobby" Panaro Jr. b.1943
Frank "Frankie" Papalia b.1930
Rocco Papalia b.1935
John A. Pieri
Joseph R. Pieri Jr.
Anthony "Tony" Pugliese
Joseph Randazzo
Joseph Sacco
Victor Sansanese b.1945
Richard Todaro b.1936 West Virginia
Louis Tavano b.1941


Dead since 2000

Ignazio Agro 2005
Dominic Auditori 2001
Vito Agueci 2005
Frank Billiteri 2010
Dominic Bretti 2003
Benedetto "Benny" Carcone 2003
Salvatore "Sam" Cardinale 2000
Anthony Ciotti 2014
Joseph Fambo 2012
Dante "Daniel" Gasbarini 2014
Vincent "Jimmy" Luppino 2009
Benjamin "Sonny" Nicoletti Jr 2012
Charles "Charlie" Pusateri 2008
Nicholas Mauro 2005
Bart Mazzara 2003
Gaetano "Chooch" Miceli 2002
Gino Monaco 2002
Ernest Panebianco 2000
Donald "Turtle" Panepinto 2015
Pasquale "Baggy Pants" Politano 2001
Charles Pusatieri 2008
Albert Randaccio 2009
Augustine Rizzo 2001
Dominic Romeo 2010
Joseph Sacco 2006
Daniel Sansanese Jr 2003
Anthony Scro 2003
Charles Scro 2005
Vincent Scro 2009
Louis Sicurella 2014
Joseph "Lead Pipe Joe "Todaro Sr. 2012
Frederick "Fred" Tomassi 2010
Rocco Zito 2016
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: AdamRski
Oh my god that was an awful article in my opinion. Maggadino hade 26 guys killed one because they were making fun of him? Buffalo at one point had 200 made members? Ugh.


200 made men its impossible with this numbers would be impossibile that the film now is defunct.

In this chart are listed 4 liutenents aka capos
[img:center]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/mafi...=20160416190909[/img]


In the late 1960s there was a war between pieri/frangipane faction and magaddino loyalists and also in the Donnie Brasco book lefty said about the commission that they (men in buffalo) put out the machine guns because NY Commission ordered him to stop killing.


I don't know about 200, but from the 30's to 60's the Buffalo family was one of the biggest and most powerful families outside NY. They wouldn't have gotten a Commission seat if they were small potatoes.


Billy they had the seat because Magaddino was the cousin of Joe Bonanno.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/25/17 07:43 PM

There is no mafia. grin
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/26/17 09:51 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: MightyDR
That was a good one. Thanks LuanKuci. I'd be interested in checking out the Maggadino book.

One mobster that doesn't get talked about enough is John C. Montana. Buffalo consigliere who was also a city councilman and nearly a member of congress.


Anecdote about Montana, from Joe Bonanno's book:

"We all boarded the same train for Chicago. In Buffalo, Stefano Magaddino and his right-hand man John Montana and Pete Magaddino, my cousin, also got on the train. Maranzano got off the train to make a phone call. A half hour passed; Maranzano didn’t return. The train was scheduled to leave the station momentarily. It was unthinkable to abandon Maranzano.

Montana got off the train. Montana was an illustrious man in Buffalo. He owned the cab company, and at one time he was the city’s deputy mayor. When he returned to our compartment, Montana told us he had arranged for the train to wait until Maranzano came back. This exhibition of clout impressed us greatly. After Maranzano boarded again and we were on our way, my cousin Stefano beamed with pride.

“See what kind of men I have under me?” Stefano said. “John can stop trains.”


Crazy shit!
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/26/17 10:52 AM

@ Adam

The article is a little Buffalo -centric, but their territory was huge. The Canadian border was during prohibition, and later, with heroin, a HUGE resource ( look at what the US/Mexico border means to the cartels...)

I mean, Maggadino was a boss, 26 guys isn't that many. Demeo was a soldier and he killed at least 37 himself. Gi ante would have you wacked FOR SPEAKING HIS NAME, which, when you think about it, is pretty insane, lol..
Posted By: AdamRski

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/26/17 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@ Adam

The article is a little Buffalo -centric, but their territory was huge. The Canadian border was during prohibition, and later, with heroin, a HUGE resource ( look at what the US/Mexico border means to the cartels...)

I mean, Maggadino was a boss, 26 guys isn't that many. Demeo was a soldier and he killed at least 37 himself. Gi ante would have you wacked FOR SPEAKING HIS NAME, which, when you think about it, is pretty insane, lol..


Hi Cabrini. I don't mean to be rude, but I have to disagree with some of the things you said. But in a friendly way. I'm fine with the article being Buffalo centric(I like that term) cause every city does that. It's pathetic and I find it disgusting, but all newspapers try to make their readers take some weird pride in their local band of organized murderers, drug dealers and thieves and their pasts for some reason. Some kind of fucked up nostalgia, but it happens. My research focus is Detroit and it happens here too. But here are some of my problems:

Buffalo never had 200 made members. Especially in the 1960s as the article claims. That would put them at about the size of the smaller NYC families. Large area of territory does not equal large number of made guys. It's often the opposite for LCN families. Comparing Buffalo in the past to a Mexican cartel is not a good comparison. Not that Buffalo wasn't influential, because we all know it was. But I agree with a previous poster that a lot of that came from Bonanno.

26 guys murdered for making fun of the boss is a laughable number of murders. The article implies it was one order Maggadino gave. Even spread out over fifty years it's ridiculous. Maggadino isn't Toto Riina. And if that story were true, which it isn't, Riina never even did that. To say that 26 isn't that many makes me question how much you know about American LCN.

Just to be helpful, Roy Demeo didn't kill 37 people himself. He and his crew are responsible for at least 37 deaths(possibly more) but Demeo didn't kill 37 people. In the same way Gravano didn't kill 19 people. He killed one person but was involved in 18 others.

I primarily research the Detroit mob, especially actual, possible, and supposed mob murders here. But I also try to keep tabs on the other mob city murders. An absolute truth is that people tell stories of the mob killing a staggering number of people and it goes into folklore and even into police and FBI reports. Quick well known example: FBI cites a location where Jimmy Hoffa may have been disposed of at, and an informant claims at least ten others have been disposed of there. Central Sanitation. But in that time that the facility existed there is only one minor minor person affiliated with the Detroit mob who disappeared. No other missing person reports that can be found. And definitely no names. But it's folklore now. It's like the Night of Sicilian Vespers which also never happened. For mob murders you really need an article on the death or a name mentioned as missing. If not it probably didn't happen. Someone just thinks it did.

And I'm not a Buffalo mob expert, but I collect articles about Buffalo mob murders from the 70s 80s and 90s and this 26 murders claim never pops up. And I've got Michael Rizzo's well researched book about the Buffalo mob in front of me and I imagine this article pisses him off.

Cabrini I'm really hoping you're not Michael Rizzo's cause if you are I'm a gigantic jackass.

But those were some of my thoughts. But I really do enjoy discussing these things.

Adam R.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/26/17 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples


Billy they had the seat because Magaddino was the cousin of Joe Bonanno.


I don't agree on this one Fur, Maggadino was a power in his own right.

Bonanno wasn't that powerful at all when the Commission was created in 1931. He was very young and probably the least powerful boss at that time. I think it was more the other way around, Bonanno was made boss of the Castellamarese after Maranzano died because of Maggadino's influence.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/26/17 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples


Billy they had the seat because Magaddino was the cousin of Joe Bonanno.


I don't agree on this one Fur, Maggadino was a power in his own right.

Bonanno wasn't that powerful at all when the Commission was created in 1931. He was very young and probably the least powerful boss at that time. I think it was more the other way around, Bonanno was made boss of the Castellamarese after Maranzano died because of Maggadino's influence.


Yes but powerful as a small city (compared to NY) boss can be.The bonannos had Montreal and the heroin pipeline while Buffalo after Valenti take Rochester and the dead of Magaddino lost more power and the family is dead with memebrs that prefer made money with pizzas and enjoy it.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/26/17 05:42 PM

http://gangsterreport.com/a-quarter-cent...line-1974-1999/

MURDER IN THE MAGADDINO CRIME FAMILY: BUFFALO MOB HIT TIMELINE (1974-1999)

he Buffalo mafia was treacherous terrain in the late-20th Century, from the time surrounding the 1974 passing of crime family namesake Stefano (The Undertaker) Magaddino until the start of the New Millennium, the Italian mob in western New York averaged roughly one gangland murder per year, with the 1970s and 80s being particularly brutal on the streets of Buffalo.

May 8, 1974 – Magaddino crime family powerhouse and labor-union captain John Cammillieri is gunned down in front of his favorite restaurant, Roseland’s, as he went to join his crew and girlfriend for his birthday party after attending a wake for Buffalo mobster Frank (Frankie Blaze) Lo Tempio, a soldier from the syndicate’s Utica, New York wing. The 63-year old Cammillieri allegedly feuded with his bosses in the mafia over union affairs and argued loudly with several Magaddino mob administrators at a cigar store hangout in the hours leading up to his high-profile slaying.

September 19, 1974 – Buffalo mob prince, Albert (Little Babe) Billiteri, Jr., the drug-dealing son of Magaddino crime family captain Albert (Babe) Billiteri, is found shot six times in Cheektowaga as unsanctioned payback for ripping off another western New York wiseguy in a narcotics transaction and robbing the wiseguy’s mom’s house.

October 5, 1974 – Buffalo area burglar and bookie Frank (Frankie D) D’Angelo is riddled with bullets as he left Mulligan’s nightclub for failing to deliver tribute to the Magaddino mob family from a big jewelry heist he pulled.

February 17, 1976 – Buffalo area thief and aspiring Goodfella William (Butch) Esposito is found strangled to death, dumped in a mud-soaked field in the back of his apartment complex. Esposito, 29, had recently been paroled from a prison stint for running a robbery ring and allegedly angered the Magaddino hierarchy by getting into a bar fight with a local mafia button man.

May 31, 1976 – Magaddino crime family associate Robert Reingold, a convicted counterfeiter and drug peddler, is found strangled to death and hogtied in the trunk of his car after shooting the brother of a Buffalo mob power.

October 5, 1977 – Buffalo mafia soldier Sam Rizzo is allegedly forced to hang himself at his business’ warehouse in Depew, New York following engaging in a beef with a fellow mobster in Florida.

November 3, 1977 – Buffalo area bartender and bookie Joseph (Handsome Joey) Vara is killed for a love affair he was having with Magaddino mobster Joe San Fratello’s wife while San Fratello was away in prison.

November 14, 1977 – Magaddino crime family associate John Certo is bludgeoned to death and his body discovered in a burned-down shed at a garbage dump in Lewiston, New York. Word on the street was that Certo had slapped around the niece of Niagara Falls capo and future underboss Benjamin (Sonny) Nicoletti.

April 19, 1979 – Buffalo area drug dealer and mob associate Peter (Pixie Stix Pete) Piccolo, a 32 year old hair salon owner and beauty school operator, is found shot in the back of his head behind the desk in his Allentown, New York office. The reportedly-homosexual Piccolo double-crossed his partners in the mob in a large cocaine deal, per police records.

September 29, 1979 – Buffalo mob enforcer Ray Townsend is found shot in the face and head behind the wheel of his car, which was parked idling outside a local watering hole. The 37-year old Townsend was allegedly blamed by local Magaddino organization brass for a bungled drug deal.

March 6, 1980 – Magaddino crime family captain Carlo Rizzo disappears on his way home for dinner and isn’t found for another five weeks when his body is discovered stuffed in the trunk of his car on April 10. Rizzo was deeply involved in the Buffalo mafia’s insurance scams run through mobbed-up labor unions that had come under investigation by the feds.

March 7, 1980 – Buffalo mob soldier and reputed hit man William (Billy the Kid) Sciolino is killed in his office at construction site by a shot-gun wielding team of assassins. Sciolino’s mentor in the mob, Daniel (Danny Boots) Sansanese had died four years prior and rumors were circulating that Billy the Kid was secretly cooperating with the FBI in building a case against Magaddino-infested Local 210 of the Laborers International Union of North America (LIUNA) where he held the job as steward.

February 8, 1981 – East coast mafia associate Bobby Warner is shot to death inside a suite in the McKinley Park Inn hotel allegedly by Luciano (Dilly) Spataro for the belief Warner was a rat.

November 13, 1983 – The Buffalo mob’s representative in Toronto, Paul (The Fox) Volpe, is found shot to death in the trunk of his car at the Toronto International Airport. Volpe allegedly fell out with his mob superiors over a casino deal in Atlantic City.

April 3, 1984 – Magaddino crime family loan shark, Albert (Big Al) Monaco is shot in the back of the head at the home of legendary Buffalo mob hit man Luciano (Dilly) Spataro by Spataro’s son-in-law Johnny Pinelli after it’s uncovered that Monaco was skimming from his collections.

February 2, 1985 – Buffalo mobster and drug lieutenant Joe San Fratello is shot death as he departs a local tavern, reportedly the victim of an internal Magaddino spat over narcotics territory.

April 17, 1985 – Buffalo mob enforcer and hired security to the stars Robert (Bobby the Body) DiGiulio is ambushed as he left his home, gunned down for sleeping with a mobster’s girlfriend on contract initiated by his scorned wife and given to Dilly Spataro.

September 19, 1986 – Buffalo mob associate Alan (Tuxedo Al) Levine is found shot to death sprawled out on the street. The 33-year old Tuxedo Al managed a series of prostitute-infested motels and pushed drugs for the Magaddinos. He was killed after he ripped off mobster in drug deal

September 29, 1986 – Magaddino crime family hit man Johnny Pinelli is shot in the back of the head and left in ditch for beating up his wife, Dilly Spataro’s daughter.

August 9, 1989 – Buffalo mob associate and drug dealer Michael Ress vanishes on his way to an evening meeting with Magaddino clan narcotics chief John (Fat Johnny) Sacco, his partner in a cocaine and marijuana distribution network. Ress’ remains have never been unearthed. Both he and Sacco were informing for the FBI.

October 1992 – Buffalo mob associate Paul Gembella is slain over a gambling debt.

July 8, 1993 – Buffalo mob associate Michael Baldi is shot in the head behind wheel of his car after a business deal he was in with Magaddino members went belly up.

May 31, 1997 – Heavily-feared Magaddino crime family captain and the clan’s king of Canada, John (Johnny Pops) Papalia, is shot to death in front of his home in a power play launched by members of his own Hamilton, Ontario crew.

July 23, 1997 – Niagara Falls mobster and Johnny Pops’ top lieutenant and right-hand man Carmen Barillaro is shot dead less than two months after his gangland mentor’s slaying as he answers a knock at his front door.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 02:47 AM

Originally Posted By: AdamRski

I primarily research the Detroit mob, especially actual, possible, and supposed mob murders here.


Oh snap, you were on the Detroit Mob Confidential documentary! Glad to have you contributing to this forum.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
some comments under this article over at buffalo news are amazing
god bless internet commenting!

edit:

so apparently they published this article on St. Joseph's Day, which is to italians from the buffalo area what San Gennaro is to italians down in NYC. Plenty are pissed.
My favorite comment so far: "The mafia you project in this article took better care of the Italian West Side than the church."


Someone really ought to tell these boneheads that just because some of your ancestors came from Italy over a hundred years ago doesn't make you Italian.

Actual Italians (and most Italian-Americans) are appalled by the mafia.

Fuckin' idiots....
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By: AdamRski
Oh my god that was an awful article in my opinion. Maggadino hade 26 guys killed one because they were making fun of him? Buffalo at one point had 200 made members? Ugh.


Nobody forced him to gamble! There's nothing wrong with bookmaking! Go botha the blacks! Just cuz we Italian! John Gotti!

***** Good article BTW.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 04:22 AM

Charles Gerass is the only allegedly one who made fun of Stefano Magaddino when he saw Stefano and his brother walking in a illegal casino, and he was killed a week later in the mid 1960's, his cousin was killed years earlier.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 06:34 AM

@ Adam

I get a lot of what you are saying....


I wasn't saying Buffalo had 200 members, just that it's not far fetched to me. I just don't see made guys like a lot of you guys do, to me they are just crooks.

It's not implausible to me 200 crooks worked for Maggadino. Now I know those numbers are exaggerated probably by 2thirds, just like Raabs 600 Gambinos and Genovese, when it's really more like 250-300 most likely. ( and Buffalos height was probably like 60 -75 ish..) After you read a lot of these books, you don't really even think about it any more, I just take it as a guesstimate rounded up, if that makes any sense. Just like the " City-centric" view taken by a lot of journalist, it's like I just tune it out' and read between the lines.....

I wasn't exactly comparing the Buffalo mob to the cartel, merely pointing out that the family was strong for similar reasons the cartels are strong, a shared land border with the US. And I've been posting ad Naseum about how organizations like this have fewer members than a power syndicate based on territory and made guys, so I definitely agree there too.

Here is an excerpt I've posted before, explains my thought process...

“When Charles Luciano and his cohorts formalized the hegemony of the modern mob in 1931, the Mafia’s first ruling Commission seated seven bosses. These included representatives from New York and Chicago, which could only be expected, but also the boss of another, smaller city, one which you might not necessarily suspect would warrant the honor. Steven Magaddino of Buffalo.
Magaddino’s name stands out on that debut Mafia Commission among such worthies as Al Capone, Charlie Luciano, Joe Bonanno, and Joe Profaci. What was a humble lakeside cousin doing in this august company? But Magaddino of Buffalo controlled the smuggling routes from Canada, and that lent him enormous weight. Within the organization schema of organized crime, the Queen City, the City of Good Neighbors, the City of Light—all chamber of commerce nicknames for Buffalo—possessed a surprising primacy.”

“In this sense, strictly in terms of the 1950s mob geography, the choice of Apalachin had a logic all its own. Dope was becoming more and more the new reality of the mob, and Apalachin fell squarely within the territory of Magaddino, one of the country’s leading dope smugglers”

So you can see, while I'm not exactly saying they are the same, I didn't pull it from thin air either. The mechanism that made both organizations powerful is similar, a shared land border with the US. In fact, it would explain how relatively few Made men would rule such a big territory. It's more about routes and contraband.

It thnk Billy might be right on Maggadinos power. People forget that this stuff wasn't set in stone from the beginning. A lot of their power came from SICILY, from Castallamare, and Maggadino was the senior figure. Bonnano, when made boss, is the youngest guy on there. His, what son, married a Profaci? People forget that I think. They also forget Profacis family was married into Detroit, so you got Profaci-Bonnano- Zerilli- Maggadino.
Think about that, that's at least three Commision votes, not sure if Detroit had a seat yet, but they eventually did. In his book, he said Mangano and Gagliano, were old school and more in tune with the " Conservative" faction. So a good portion of the Commision old school, and in leadership positions, when Lucky went to jail, and Vito fled, I think this group was really empowered, yet they had to respect Costello, Anastasia, and Luchesse cause they were Luciano's young Turks......


THAT WAS BONNANOS POWER, this coalition. As soon as he and his cousin became enemies, the wolves like Gambino and Luchesse played on this to break this coalition up. Bonnano couldn't do it alone, which he tried, and failed. I think his only other ally on the Commision was maybe Anastasia, I believe this is why Bonnano saw himself as top boss. Cause he had his coalition, plus he thought he could control Anastasia, I think better than Costello could. Giving him a ruling quorum on the Commission...



I also think it was a huge mistake by these guys to let Costello and Anastasia get away with killing Mangano. It set the precedent to be repeated. I think Bonnano thought he could out think Luchesse, while controlling Anastasia, the problem is Gagliano retired, he alienated Maggadino, and Profaci got sick, killed his base. They were a fuckin Freedom Caucus lol....


The Demeo thing, lol I know he didn't kill all the guys all by himself, just in the eyes of the law, he killed 37 guys, at least. And he was just a soldier, and a lot of his murders went even orders, just contracts. 26 guys really didn't seem like that many, it I didn't realize they meant ALL AT ONCE!! That is pretty silly.....
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 07:11 AM

This is like the convo I wanted to have about Buffalo in the first place, lol..
Posted By: AdamRski

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 12:39 PM

Hi Cabrini. Fair enough. If you don't differentiate between "made members" and associates I'm sure that Maggadino had 200 guys in his organization if not more at their peak. That's why I got annoyed with the article. If they're going to use the term "made men" they should be more realistic with their numbers or more knowledgeable. And you may very well be right in terms of Maggadino's influence. Haven't really studied it closely. It was always just my impression that a lot of his importance came from how close he was to Boannno's much larger organization. And I always took Bonanno as the successor of Maranzano. But it was just my impression.
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 02:31 PM

i have posted this before and im going to post it again.in 1963 mike amico of the buffalo ny police dept appeared before the valachi hearing to give an account of the magaddino family. he stated that there were 80 made men in the city of buffalo, 25 in niagara falls, and 25 in canada. thats a total of 130 made men. he didnt mention any other areas of magaddino made men. such as the utica are which the valachi commision noted had 30 made men. no mention of rochester, which was the magaddino family that may have had as many as 30 or more made men. F.B.I. reports state there were 6 magaddino made men in erie pa. in syracuse ny there were approx 10 magaddino made men. contrary to popular belief binghamton ny was also magaddino territory.not sure how many made men in binghamton in 1963, but i do know the FBI estimated in approx 1995 there were 11 made men. frankly i believe the canada number to be low at 25. many of the men were probably retired, or semi retired, but it doesnt change the fact they were made. consider the fact that in our grandfathers time it was considered an honor to be made. some were far more active than others, some were just "grunts" my point is the magaddino family was powerful, and very geographically diverse for many years. stefano magaddino was an original.
Posted By: AdamRski

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: faffy444
i have posted this before and im going to post it again.in 1963 mike amico of the buffalo ny police dept appeared before the valachi hearing to give an account of the magaddino family. he stated that there were 80 made men in the city of buffalo, 25 in niagara falls, and 25 in canada. thats a total of 130 made men. he didnt mention any other areas of magaddino made men. such as the utica are which the valachi commision noted had 30 made men. no mention of rochester, which was the magaddino family that may have had as many as 30 or more made men. F.B.I. reports state there were 6 magaddino made men in erie pa. in syracuse ny there were approx 10 magaddino made men. contrary to popular belief binghamton ny was also magaddino territory.not sure how many made men in binghamton in 1963, but i do know the FBI estimated in approx 1995 there were 11 made men. frankly i believe the canada number to be low at 25. many of the men were probably retired, or semi retired, but it doesnt change the fact they were made. consider the fact that in our grandfathers time it was considered an honor to be made. some were far more active than others, some were just "grunts" my point is the magaddino family was powerful, and very geographically diverse for many years. stefano magaddino was an original.


Wait, in 1995 the FBI thought there were 11 made members in Binghamton NY? I'm having a little trouble with that. Where did they say that?
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 05:00 PM

adamrski

i read it in an article about the todaro's doing a good job of putting the family back together again in upstate n.y.
Posted By: AdamRski

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: faffy444
adamrski

i read it in an article about the todaro's doing a good job of putting the family back together again in upstate n.y.


Interesting. Sorry, I'm just a bit skeptical of that particular claim. That would be like a small family in Binghamton in the mid 90s and I can't quite bring myself to accept that. Doesn't really fit with everything else. Because weren't they saying about ten years later that the Buffalo family only had 20-30 members total in New York?
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/27/17 06:41 PM

again keep in mind that all 11 may not have been active. my guess is the majority of them were retired or semi retired at the time, but the FBI did identify them as made members. remember you are made for life................or death.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/17 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples


Billy they had the seat because Magaddino was the cousin of Joe Bonanno.


I don't agree on this one Fur, Maggadino was a power in his own right.

Bonanno wasn't that powerful at all when the Commission was created in 1931. He was very young and probably the least powerful boss at that time. I think it was more the other way around, Bonanno was made boss of the Castellamarese after Maranzano died because of Maggadino's influence.



I don't agree with this for the most part. Do you not recall that Joe Bonanno was a founding member of Lucky Luciano's "Commission" post the Castellamarese war? This is fact. He was the youngest boss to ever head a family, especially in the midst of the jungle that NY's underworld was at the time. He was basically Maranzano's second in command towards the end of that conflict. He wasn't placed on the Commission simply because Maranzano said so, Bonanno was an accomplished guy in his own right. And in many ways Maggadino was jealous of his younger cousin, because despite bringing him to the US, and basically giving him a crew out right, which consisted of Willie Moretti, Bonanno simply surpassed him in power, this didn't take long to occur, according to Bonanno's own words.


Either way, they were both powers at the time you're speaking of, so trying to argue whom was more powerful than the other and who got a commission seat because of whom, is ridiculous. And at no point do I think the Buffalo family had 200 made guys. Buffalo was a powerful family at one point, however the fact is they never surpassed ANY of the NY families in terms of power at any point in time. And some NY families didn't even cap 200 made members.


And Buffalo is dead. There is simply NOTHING GOING ON. I really wish people would kill these rumors, like Todaro Jr putting ANYTHING back together. It's not happening.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/17 05:30 AM

I'll say this, it's silly to assume they woulda made Bonnano a boss cause he was Maggadinos cousin.

It's equally silly to assume they woulda made Maggadino a boss just cause he was Bonnanos cousin.

Cause them being cousins doesn't put money in anyone's pocket. They were BOTH LEGIT, Maggadino, cause of his families history in Sicily. They wiped out the Bucellatos, I think. Bonnano made his bones in the war, under Maranzano, plus he came from a mafia family anyway.

But at this point, he wasn't like rich yet. He didn't control any huge rackets he could cut people in on, ( in his book, he declines an offer for a piece of the Garment Center, so not to be beholden to Lucky..) He's a Youngster.

Like, a guy like Luciano was rich, guys like Maggadino and Bonnano were MAFIA.. Bonnano got a seat cause they didn't want to war with him, basically. He coulda kept it going after Maranzano got hit, all the La Marese guys woulda did whatever he told em, but HE wasn't happy with Maranzano either. You could say him being closer to Luciano's age, having similar interest, was a great factor too.

I really don't know why people get hung up on the made guys. ANY numbers from the sixties have to be taken with a grain of salt. The FBI didn't really know shit. They were playing catch up with all their black bag ops, the FBN were guys who knew what was up. All the FBIs numbers seem inflated at that time. Plus you gotta factor in the publicity component, how law enforcement exaggerates and shit.

Like I said in a previous post, if the Gambinos and Genovese could have 500-600 guys, Buffalo coulda had 200. But if we use common sense and see the numbers are basically kinda tripled, that woulda put Buffalo at about 60-70.
Those sixties numbers are goofy...
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/17 04:40 PM

magaddino and bonanno both came from sicilian mafia royalty. both were heavyweights in their own right. there are those who believed that magaddino was the top castelammarese, not maranzano. that could have been true, but don stefano was wily enuf, and smart enuf to stay on the outskirts of the fray.

remember magaddino was the leader of the good killers, and very well connected in the u.s. and sicily. that catapulted him to being made the buffalo boss in 1922, while bonanno was only 17 at that time. magaddino didnt need bonanno to be made boss. i also think bonanno didnt need magaddino to become a boss. bonaano was well respected among the castelammarese in n.y.

my belief is the familys were larger in the 40's, 50's, and 60's than most believe. in the book honor thy father bill bonanno stated that the bonanno family had 400 members in 1965, and were considered to be one of the smaller n.y. families. in the early 1960's the FBI estimated 2700 made men in n.y./n.j. personally i think that was a reasonable assessment. as italians were the largest ethnic group in the area during the 40's thru 60's time frame.

i continue to allege the buffalo family had 200 made menders during the time frame i pointed out. my guess is if you go back to the 1930's and 1940's the buffalo family probably had more than 200 members.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/17 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
And in many ways Maggadino was jealous of his younger cousin, because despite bringing him to the US, and basically giving him a crew out right, which consisted of Willie Moretti, Bonanno simply surpassed him in power, this didn't take long to occur, according to Bonanno's own words.


Are you talking about Willie Moretti the underboss of the Genoveses based in New Jersey?
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/17 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: faffy444
magaddino and bonanno both came from sicilian mafia royalty. both were heavyweights in their own right. there are those who believed that magaddino was the top castelammarese, not maranzano. that could have been true, but don stefano was wily enuf, and smart enuf to stay on the outskirts of the fray.

remember magaddino was the leader of the good killers, and very well connected in the u.s. and sicily. that catapulted him to being made the buffalo boss in 1922, while bonanno was only 17 at that time. magaddino didnt need bonanno to be made boss. i also think bonanno didnt need magaddino to become a boss. bonaano was well respected among the castelammarese in n.y.

my belief is the familys were larger in the 40's, 50's, and 60's than most believe. in the book honor thy father bill bonanno stated that the bonanno family had 400 members in 1965, and were considered to be one of the smaller n.y. families. in the early 1960's the FBI estimated 2700 made men in n.y./n.j. personally i think that was a reasonable assessment. as italians were the largest ethnic group in the area during the 40's thru 60's time frame.

i continue to allege the buffalo family had 200 made menders during the time frame i pointed out. my guess is if you go back to the 1930's and 1940's the buffalo family probably had more than 200 members.


I'm one of those who also believe those numbers are exaggerated. I think the families' numbers in New York in the 1950s were probably similar to the numbers of the 1980s when the families had replenished their numbers after the books were re-opened in 1976.

I think Buffalo may have had close to 100 members at their height, but probably closer to 75 or as few as 60. It was a midsized family similar to Detroit and Philly.

I wonder since Magaddino was named boss whether Buffalo had a large Castellammarese community that was of influence in his election?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/31/17 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
And in many ways Maggadino was jealous of his younger cousin, because despite bringing him to the US, and basically giving him a crew out right, which consisted of Willie Moretti, Bonanno simply surpassed him in power, this didn't take long to occur, according to Bonanno's own words.


Are you talking about Willie Moretti the underboss of the Genoveses based in New Jersey?



Yes, in Bonannos book he says the first guy he was introduced to was Willie Moretti. And that Moretti, I believe was the one whom picked him up from the airport and showed the ropes for a while before he got established in NY basically.


Bonannos father, and his ancestors were also a part of the Maggadino clan in Sicily and participated in the Buccellato War, and basically contributed to some of the murders of their guys. So Bonanno also had that going for him just as Maggadino did. Maggadino was the leader of the Good Killers, which was basically the US version of the Maggadino clan whose mission was to wipe out the remaining Buccellato's whom made it to America and their allies. They succeeded for the most part, so Maggadino could've very well carried considerable weight based on that as well.
Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/31/17 02:46 PM

willie moretti was dispatched by stefano magaddino to florida to get joe bonanno and their mutual cousin peter magaddino out of hock from customs officials .

willie moretti at the time was a member of the magaddino family, and was located here in niagara falls n.y. moretti lived in niagara falls from about 1923 thru approx 1927 then moved on to new jersey and was a member of the luciano/costello /genovese family.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 04/01/17 03:50 PM

This page of mary ferrell'site on some made men names in the 1960s

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Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 04/01/17 03:55 PM

OTHER NAMES

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Posted By: faffy444

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 04/01/17 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: faffy444
magaddino and bonanno both came from sicilian mafia royalty. both were heavyweights in their own right. there are those who believed that magaddino was the top castelammarese, not maranzano. that could have been true, but don stefano was wily enuf, and smart enuf to stay on the outskirts of the fray.

remember magaddino was the leader of the good killers, and very well connected in the u.s. and sicily. that catapulted him to being made the buffalo boss in 1922, while bonanno was only 17 at that time. magaddino didnt need bonanno to be made boss. i also think bonanno didnt need magaddino to become a boss. bonaano was well respected among the castelammarese in n.y.

my belief is the familys were larger in the 40's, 50's, and 60's than most believe. in the book honor thy father bill bonanno stated that the bonanno family had 400 members in 1965, and were considered to be one of the smaller n.y. families. in the early 1960's the FBI estimated 2700 made men in n.y./n.j. personally i think that was a reasonable assessment. as italians were the largest ethnic group in the area during the 40's thru 60's time frame.

i continue to allege the buffalo family had 200 made menders during the time frame i pointed out. my guess is if you go back to the 1930's and 1940's the buffalo family probably had more than 200 members.


I'm one of those who also believe those numbers are exaggerated. I think the families' numbers in New York in the 1950s were probably similar to the numbers of the 1980s when the families had replenished their numbers after the books were re-opened in 1976.

I think Buffalo may have had close to 100 members at their height, but probably closer to 75 or as few as 60. It was a midsized family similar to Detroit and Philly.

I wonder since Magaddino was named boss whether Buffalo had a large Castellammarese community that was of influence in his election?


to answer your question, yes buffalo did have a large castelammarese community during magaddino's reign. as did binghamton n.y., and detroit mich. the largest castelammarese group was in brooklyn.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 04/01/17 07:35 PM

Im the book Fatal Hour: The Assassination of President Kennedy by Organized Crime of Bob Berkeley is said that in the 1960s the Magaddino had 300 "members" so I think that the numbers included also the associates.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 04/02/17 10:23 AM

I'm still trying to find which thread it was, but there was a link to the Mary Ferrell docs, in it they had the Gambinos at 1000 members. That was when I said, " okay, the Feds were playing catch up still"... If you had the standard ten made guys per crew, you are talking about a hundred capos. I've heard as many as thirty for the Gambinos, but a hundred???!!!!

(It's something that inadvertently gives credence to the Gambinos selling memberships' but that another thread...)


If that's true, then sure, Buffalo coulda have two or even three hundred guys. It woulda still meant the Gambinos were five times bigger. And if you think the Gambinos were about 300, then the same rate of like 5-1 could apply, and that would have Buffalo at 60 guys. So to me either way, 200 or 60 are plausible, but I think the smaller number more likely.

But it's compelling, the MAFIA WAS STRONG AS HELL DURING THIS PERIOD. Think about it, the Yakuza ( the organization most similar to the Sicilian mafia, to me) could support 10-15 or 20 thousand guys. At the height of mafia power, I certainly think they coulda supported 2700 guys....mThe UNIONS alone might have been able to support 2000 guys, I dunno. It's an interesting question, the numbers of made guys during that period.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 04/02/17 09:46 PM

CabriniGreen I think that at the beginings the Fbi due the lack of informants inflationated the numbers didnt make a divisione between made members and italian associates,because until the 1970s the mob prefered to had more italians as associates and not all members. The fbi thinked that all people with a italian surname was a soldiers so the 1000 gambino made men.
Posted By: NickleCity

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/18 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by faffy444
this article is basically the same article the local media has been writing about the magaddino family for the past 40 years. take it with a grain of salt. yes the buffalo family did have 200 members at one point, perhaps more.

Yeah, I think LeeCoppola wrote pretty much the same thing in '98. Here is the link:
The Withered Arm-1998
Posted By: Sonny_from_Peoria

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/18 05:05 PM

Interesting I never knew Joe Scalise was in Buffalo I wonder which boss sent him there
Posted By: NickleCity

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 03/28/18 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Sonny_from_Peoria
Interesting I never knew Joe Scalise was in Buffalo I wonder which boss sent him there

LOL--I think that Chicago Mobster was called "Withererhand."
Posted By: Ciment

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 01/30/24 12:21 PM

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/...b213760-bb91-11ee-97e0-535453324230.html

Pharaoh's case isn't the first that linked an Outlaws leader to a witness' death///// Federal prosecutors have focused most of their charges on Gerace, the Pharaoh’s owner who is Ermin’s boss there.

Gerace is the nephew of Joseph A. Todaro, owner of La Nova Pizza, who federal prosecutors and agents have accused of running the Buffalo Mafia.
Posted By: mike68

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 01/30/24 05:33 PM

Real interesting read, there is definitely something still going on in Buffalo. I'm not sure how long a smaller outfit can last though.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 01/30/24 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by mike68
Real interesting read, there is definitely something still going on in Buffalo. I'm not sure how long a smaller outfit can last though.


I think Buffalo will do all right. The Hamilton Mafia have become stronger so one will compliment the other. Some experts have said that the Ndrangheta may help revive some American CN families and there is plenty of Ndrangheta on the Canadian side. We will see if it happens.
Posted By: Ciment

Re: The Mafia is dead in W. New York - Buffalo News - 02/08/24 02:39 AM

https://torontosun.com/news/world/h...s-a-dead-ex-stripper-outlaws-and-the-mob

HUNTER: Buffalo trial has alleged dirty cops, a dead ex-stripper, Outlaws and the Mob
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