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Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted

Posted By: Louiebynochi

Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 02:43 PM

Expected to be indicted on racketeering charges including murder in the next week or so.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 02:50 PM

Read the Gangland column, says Crea is underboss and Madonna is still acting boss in prison
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 07:32 PM

http://www.ganglandnews.com/

RICO Charges Coming In White Plains For Westchester-Based Luchese Leaders
Gang Land Exclusive!Steven CreaFederal prosecutors in Manhattan plan to hit the two top leaders of the Luchese crime family with racketeering charges as part of their investigation into the 2013 gangland style slaying of Michael Meldish, the former leader of the notorious Purple Gang, Gang land has learned.

Law enforcement sources say the family's two top wiseguys, Steven (Stevie Wonder) Crea and Matthew (Matty) Madonna, are the main targets of a long-running grand jury probe that resulted in last month's indictment of two underlings for the Meldish murder. Crea's and Madonna's specific mob titles vary depending on whom you ask and when you pose the question, but sources agree that the duo is running the crime family for imprisoned-for-life boss, Vittorio (Vic) Amuso.

Prosecutors will ask the grand jury to indict Madonna, 81, for ordering the Meldish rubout that defendants Christopher Londonio and Terrence Caldwell allegedly carried out on November 15, 2013, the sources say. Madonna began serving an indeterminate sentence of up to five years for bookmaking in a New Jersey state prison 18 months ago. Sources told Gang Land this week that despite his incarceration, he is the acting boss. It's doubtful that Crea, 69, whom law enforcement sources say is the official family underboss, will be charged with any complicity in the murder.



http://aboutthemafia.com/lucchese-family...ng-rico-charges


Lucchese family leaders Steven Crea and Matthew Madonna targets of upcoming RICO charges
March 9, 2017 By TheBoss



Federal prosecutors are planning to charge Lucchese crime family leaders Steven (Stevie Wonder) Crea and Matthew (Matty) Madonna with racketeering charges according to a GanglandNews report.



The charges stem from a long-running grade jury probe which included the investigation into the 2013 mafia hit on mob associate and former Purple Gang leader Michael Meldish. According to law enforcement, Crea and Madonna are the top two ranking members and are in control of the New York mafia family while official boss Vittorio Amuso serves a life sentence. Various reports have ranked Crea as the families current acting boss but some law enforcement sources believe he may have been acting as underboss behind Madonna but regardless of official titles its agreed they are in control.





“Matthew Madonna”



A grand jury will be asked to indict Madonna for ordering the mob rubout of Meldish which was allegedly carried out by mob underlings Christopher Londonio and Terrence Caldwell. Both Londonio and Caldwell were indicted last month previously reported here for their alleged role in the Meldish murder who was killed after he had a falling out with family leaders. It is still unclear as to the exact charges prosecutors plan to hit Crea with. According to the report, both Crea and Madonna were the main targets of the probe which may also include an indictment of Crea’s son Steven (Stevie Junior) Crea Jr. on racketeering charges who authorities claim is also a “made man” in the Cosa Nostra family. Crea Jr has no criminal record but law enforcement sources believe he has been involved in various criminal activities in Westchester County.





“Steven Crea”



The court filing indicates that federal prosecutors told White Plains Federal Judge Nelson Roman that unnamed high-ranking members of the Lucchese family were involved in the Meldish murder. Prosecutors claimed they have “proof to show that Londonio was commissioned to commit the murder of Meldish by the leadership of the Lucchese Family.” They also explained in a four-page letter to the judge that the Lucchese family “is heavily tied to Westchester County.” The case was filed in White Plains even though Meldish was killed in the city because according to prosecutors a substantial part of the planning and execution occurred in Westchester County. It was noted that several Lucchese family leaders and Londonio were all residents of Westchester.
Posted By: Chicken713

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 07:57 PM

Crea Jr. has no criminal record. Anybody know how old he is? I won't be able to research since I'm doing a lot of driving today to meet clients so thanks for any info. I wonder if all the info is from wiretaps or informants.
Posted By: Zavattoni

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Chicken713
Crea Jr. has no criminal record. Anybody know how old he is? I won't be able to research since I'm doing a lot of driving today to meet clients so thanks for any info. I wonder if all the info is from wiretaps or informants.


He's 45 I believe.
Posted By: Zavattoni

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Read the Gangland column, says Crea is underboss and Madonna is still acting boss in prison


So does this mean all along; Madonna had more power on the streets then Crea before he got locked up in the can? (Madonna)
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/09/17 11:22 PM

Looks like they are looking for big head lines and a way to get millions into there coffers to keep the overtime going.

May just be another overzealous prosecutor pushing for the regular things CASH!!! Headlines !!!
Posted By: MeyerLansky

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 01:14 AM

The luchchese's are in building right ?
Posted By: tt120

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 02:01 AM

congrats to matthew madonna for being the most active member in LCN who has done the most time in jail. the guy has spent like half his life in the can. wonder what will happen to crea senior here. more importantly, who the next sitting / street admin will be
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 04:26 AM

This should be interesting. Thanks for the news.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 07:42 AM

Originally Posted By: tt120
congrats to matthew madonna for being the most active member in LCN who has done the most time in jail. the guy has spent like half his life in the can. wonder what will happen to crea senior here. more importantly, who the next sitting / street admin will be


The most active lcn member is Peter Limone that made 33 y in prison and now is the boss of the patriarca family.
Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 11:36 AM

Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: tt120
congrats to matthew madonna for being the most active member in LCN who has done the most time in jail. the guy has spent like half his life in the can. wonder what will happen to crea senior here. more importantly, who the next sitting / street admin will be


The most active lcn member is Peter Limone that made 33 y in prison and now is the boss of the patriarca family.


There are loads of guys that have done decades in prison, it would have to be researched who has done the most. Just taking a quick Matty Madonna has atleast 30 years in prison, I think Sonny Franzese has 30 in total.
Posted By: sittite

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 11:38 AM

Sonny hit a 100 the other day....what a tortured life
Posted By: artichoke

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 12:09 PM

Does anyone know if Sonny made it home yet?
Posted By: irishkaos

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 01:07 PM

I thought most of the Purple Gang was basically absorbed into the Genovese 116th St crew? I take it both the Meldish brothers were never made/not full Italian?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 03:13 PM

Pizzaboy was adamant that Crea's son wasn't in the mob let alone made.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 03:23 PM

@Moe


I still respect Pizza, but I gotta say I thought the same reading this, like "Wow, he kinda had this wrong..."
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 03:24 PM

@irishkous

I think Angelo Prisco, and Daniel Leo, both became Capos or better. Prisco is a Luchesse or West Side? I'm embarrassed but I forget....
Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Pizzaboy was adamant that Crea's son wasn't in the mob let alone made.


He was wrong about a lot of stuff. He always talked the Bronx faction of the Luchese being this close to taking out Gas and Vic, but we know they wouldn't do shit against them when they were on the streets.
Posted By: DB

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 03:53 PM

I don't think PB would out anyone like Crea Jr no matter what he knew.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: DB
I don't think PB would out anyone like Crea Jr no matter what he knew.

misinformation... That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't wanna put anyone's business out there that isn't already out there.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
Originally Posted By: DB
I don't think PB would out anyone like Crea Jr no matter what he knew.

misinformation... That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't wanna put anyone's business out there that isn't already out there.


He did the same with Bascianos kid, almost admitted as much to me but not quite

miss his posts
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 05:16 PM

For sure, Pizza had great info, but mainly the Madonna acting boss thing threw me....

EDIT; Actually just occurred to me....


Madonna = Lighting Rod for Crea? (Did I read right, Crea WONT be charged with the murder????!!!)

Or no? Is he actually in charge equally?

I guess they trust him, lord knows he ain't scared of jail....
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 05:52 PM

In fairness, only a moron would think Basciano's kid wasn't in the mafia to begin with.

And it's common knowledge that Crea's kid started in a Lucchese farm team.
Posted By: Jimmythepen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 06:07 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Moe


I still respect Pizza, but I gotta say I thought the same reading this, like "Wow, he kinda had this wrong..."


I don't know if the original Meldish thread is still active or viewable but I'm pretty sure Pizza said the hit was nothing to do with LCN because nobody would sanction a hit in the neighbourhood where it took place. His reasoning was that too many high ranking guys live there and they wouldn't sanction it too close to home.

It makes/made sense, but these guys don't always do things by the book. Or maybe he was just trying to divert attention away from it which I totally understand. This isn't a tirade against PB, I respect him and miss his posts.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 06:10 PM

Wait. People complain about Giacomo Vacari spreading misinformation but it's okay if Pizza does it?

I'm not having a go at either btw.

I just think it's a bit ironic.
Posted By: Ted

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 06:55 PM

PB also said Barney has Pulled back since his release from prison. Then it's revealed that he's the new boss of the genovese family. I don't think PB spreads a lot of misinformation, he can't garuntee the accuracy of everything he hears.
Posted By: DB

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 08:00 PM

Moe

I think you know the difference . PB was possibly too close to the situation while GV was probably too far but wanted to sound close.

Yes I agree but on the Barney thing I think everyone knew PB was being slightly deceptive there. Actually Barney probably is 99% legit from a $ standpoint to be honest . I don't see him give the Feds the " illegal " profit angle. All IMO of course
Posted By: DB

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 08:19 PM

CG I wouldn't get all caught up as far as who is boss, who is on charge etc., as for sure no one here is gong to know and no one outside of the real players on NY are going to know.

Don't get caught up in the titles , things probably aren't that linear , both have big league sway regardless of their title
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 08:26 PM

How could Crea be acting boss for Matthew Madonna when Vic Amuso is the official boss?

And DB

That's one possibility.

I just can't understand why a person would say these things that aren't true in order to mislead people on a forum.

If he knows these people on a personal basis or has a vested interest in not talking about them then surely he would just..... not talk about them to begin with.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
In fairness, only a moron would think Basciano's kid wasn't in the mafia to begin with.

And it's common knowledge that Crea's kid started in a Lucchese farm team.


Crea's kid began as a Tanglewood Boy right? I believe he was in that farm team.
Posted By: DB

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 08:49 PM

Dude corne on your taking this shit way too seriously but I'm sure your just kidding

Nobody is going to know for sure who is what outside a handful of pepes but again I know u just playing
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 10:00 PM

PB was on the money more often than not. Giacomo would deliberately go about to create fake names and scenarios and add them with known names and instances to make his lies seem more legit, with the intention of misleading people. Theres a difference between just being inaccurate, and telling straight up falsehoods to send people off course. Just saying.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/10/17 10:15 PM

Well he either unknowingly posted inaccurate information vis-a-vis Crea's son, Basciano's son and Bellomo or the other option is he knowingly posted inaccurate information because he didn't want to throw them under the bus/wasn't public knowledge/FBI monitor the site/some other reason.

Lots of people then believe Crea's son isn't in the mafia when he is etc. so I don't see what the difference is between what PB did there and what GV is alleged to have done - but maybe I'm just thinking about it too much.

Maybe it's just a surface similarity.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not shitting on PB and his forum contributions. Perhaps, he says one thing on the boards and another in the private message functions.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 12:29 AM

I don't really remember too much of Giacomo's posts, but if I recall correctly he was just making shit up to sound important. Whereas PB knew these people on a personal level and didn't want to put their business out there, even on an internet forum. I agree it would have made more sense just to say nothing about them.
Posted By: Frankie_Five_Angels

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 06:28 AM

I certainly don't know as much as some people on here... but I do know some Westchester info.....and PB was always spot on whenever he posted about such happenings.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 11:12 AM

Some people are reading too much into it I think. PB got some stuff right and some wrong
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 11:42 AM

@Tommy

Yeah, that's basically how I see it. Also, Pizza being from the Bronx, it's always going to give his perspective a little slant.

In his eyes the Bronx guys probably are the center of Mob universe. Like Brooklyn was for a, say Henry Hill. The way Camac and Moore was for Caramandi, or Al Darcos Harlem. Fora guy who came up in Gottis Queens, Queens was probably it, a Genovese Jersey guy probably sees Jersey as more important than Long Island.

I feel like that's the disconnect when looking at the Luchesse leadership. This idea that the Bronx guys were just superior, cause they had white collar rackets and money. I think thats just a little off.

This is THREE ( out of five) acting or current bosses that are locked up. And when you see Cantarellas on TV, it's no wonder. Maybe money ISNT the most important thing when it comes to LEADERSHIP.....
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 03:48 PM

New Scott article on Madonna:

http://gangsterreport.com/summer-of-76-u...-from-overseas/
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Wait. People complain about Giacomo Vacari spreading misinformation but it's okay if Pizza does it?

I'm not having a go at either btw.

I just think it's a bit ironic.


I didn't see you in a hurry to call PB out when he was still around, now that is what I find a bit ironic.

Vacari made up shit almost every time he posted/still posts. If you can't see the difference then well I'm not surprised.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:30 PM

Myself and PB had it out several times. I'm pretty sure he doesn't need sycophants like you fighting his battles for him.

And I'm not surprised you can't see the similarities when your head is so far up his ass.

And again, as I emphasized, I am not calling out PB nor Giacomo Vacari.

Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I don't see what the difference is between what PB did there and what GV is alleged to have done


As I said above now you want to try and shit on PB now that he is not here, and "alleged"? Are you freaking serious? There was a HUGE difference between the two.

GTFOH
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:46 PM

I never said they were exactly the same did I?

I said there were similarities between what PB did re: Crea, Bellomo and Basciano (off the top of my head) and what GV was accused of doing.

That's all.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Myself and PB had it out several times. I'm pretty sure he doesn't need sycophants like you fighting his battles for him.

And I'm not surprised you can't see the similarities when your head is so far up his ass.

And again, as I emphasized, I am not calling out PB nor Giacomo Vacari.



Sycophant huh? You fucking wished. I just call it like I see it, and I sure don't remember you telling PB he was full of shit and was a liar back then but you're damn sure doing it now. But since you and your buddy Vacari got kicked off the other site you hate anyone that is there.

Cry me a river
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I never said they were exactly the same did I?

I said there were similarities between what PB did re: Crea, Bellomo and Basciano (off the top of my head) and what GV was accused of doing.

That's all.


You said you didn't see the difference, and once again "alleged"? He was proven wrong and it was proven he made shit up. If you can't see the difference between the two then you are indeed an idiot, which is something we have known from the start. Have fun replying because I've said my part. You and Vacari can make shit up together, you want to talk about sycophants? Yet you still say it was alleged Vacari made shit up? That's funny lol Have a good day you fucking tool.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 04:51 PM

Well, first off, when he was here the intel re: Bellomo and Crea was completely different so why would anyone call him out on it then?

Since then it turns out the intel is completely different.

Go back over several of my posts. I said he was either mistaken about several things or deliberately lied about them.

It's not really an accusation so much as a fact, and several people agree with me.

Vacari is not my buddy.

And I'm not carrying a vendetta over being banned from "the other site".

Though it was a vendetta from people like you carrying grudges from over here to that site that got me banned for doing nothing wrong.

Kind of petty, wouldn't you agree?
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Well, first off, when he was here the intel re: Bellomo and Crea was completely different so why would anyone call him out on it then?

Since then it turns out the intel is completely different.

Go back over several of my posts. I said he was either mistaken about several things or deliberately lied about them.

It's not really an accusation so much as a fact, and several people agree with me.

Vacari is not my buddy.

And I'm not carrying a vendetta over being banned from "the other site".

Though it was a vendetta from people like you carrying grudges from over here to that site that got me banned for doing nothing wrong.

Kind of petty, wouldn't you agree?


You called him a sycophant for no apparent reason, just for that you should get a 5 day vacation. Dixie hasnt used not even one disrespectful word before you called him a sycophat.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:14 PM

Sycophant isn't a profanity or an insult, though English isn't your first language so I'll give you a pass for that.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:34 PM

@Dante

That's actually a good article by Scott there. Madonna was close to Larca, who has or had Bellomo's ear. With these families being close already, and his pedigree, funny. I know it's cliche at this point, but you got your white collar Crea, and blue collar Madonna, both equally respected in their specialties. Must be a good team....

If Crea dodges the murder indictment, the thing is, will his son skate too? I gotta read the thing, lol

This makes me wonder, yet again, does anyone know who supplied Amuso?
Did he and Casso, pick up after Madonna was off the street?
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:35 PM

And Goddamn, Madonna is kind of a brazen guy, huh?

Walk these ten kilos through customs?!!!
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:39 PM

No it isnt my first lango, but it is an insult since it was not what Dixie was doing, he was just stating the obvious and he is right. And when a person is right, and I and others agree that he is, it can not be qualified as sycophancy. But the more important thing here is that you meant it as an insult witch once again in orders you to a 5 day vacation. Have a pleasant evening.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:45 PM

You do know saying people should be banned is a bannable offense, right?

Quote:
If you can't see the difference then well I'm not surprised.


Quote:
GTFOH


Quote:
If you can't see the difference between the two then you are indeed an idiot, which is something we have known from the start.


Quote:
Have a good day you fucking tool.


If my "sycophant" comment is as bad as any of those things then you really are reaching and should probably quit before you get yourself into any more trouble.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Dante

That's actually a good article by Scott there. Madonna was close to Larca, who has or had Bellomo's ear. With these families being close already, and his pedigree, funny. I know it's cliche at this point, but you got your white collar Crea, and blue collar Madonna, both equally respected in their specialties. Must be a good team....

If Crea dodges the murder indictment, the thing is, will his son skate too? I gotta read the thing, lol

This makes me wonder, yet again, does anyone know who supplied Amuso?
Did he and Casso, pick up after Madonna was off the street?


According to D'Arco, Casso and Amuso's heroin was laced with caffeine and of shit quality.

They supposedly screwed him on a few drug deals.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 05:55 PM

Yes it is worse because it was an uncalled comment that starts fights. And you started it, and you always do. Also stating that Dixies head is in PBs ass witch isnt physically possible, LOL. And saying that you should go to a 5 day vacation isnt a bad thing, I bet you can use the rest. No need for threats Moe, Im sure your old enough not to do that behind the keyboard.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 06:05 PM

Quote:
I didn't see you in a hurry to call PB out when he was still around, now that is what I find a bit ironic.

Vacari made up shit almost every time he posted/still posts. If you can't see the difference then well I'm not surprised.


This comment came before any of my comments.

And again, "sycophant" is not a profane word or an insult.

Now stop dragging the thread further off topic.

If you have anything else to say PM me.
Posted By: alexandarns

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 06:07 PM

Also I wish that saying people should get banned was a bannable offense, you would be gone a long time ago. You said it just to me like 50 times. come on moe dont be a child, LOL.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 07:39 PM

Read amuso had some scam in the bronx early 70tys something to do with a crooked parole officer and was buddy longos driver. And again he made steve crea the acting consig during the same time they made al darco the acting boss.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 07:40 PM

Wonder if its spillover charges from the parello merlino cases.
Posted By: DB

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 07:54 PM

Moe please just let it go

This was solid news and could of been a great discussion for once but now the thread is filled with worthless info

I have nothing against you so don't take this personal but u just love starting pointless drama that tends to kills a thread . Please just start a different thread when u want to mix it up . thank u
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 08:02 PM

The thread was derailed by dixiemafia and alexisandarns.

Everything was peaceful until they started being belligerent and provocative.

Just scroll up ^^^^^^^^
Posted By: RollinBones

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 08:09 PM

Moe, DB's first response pretty much summed up the answer to your question regarding misinfo. It amounts to PB not putting people out there and GV trying to make it seem like he was out there himself. No need to drag it out regardless.

Anyway, I wonder what they'll be charging Crea Sr with as he seems to be very low key and I know he has a lot of legit income. If he's not charged with the Meldish murder I can only assume they've had an informant around for a while.
Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/11/17 08:17 PM

Don't get me wrong, Pizzaboy was a very good poster. I just think he was a homer when it came to the Luchese's Bronx crew. He always made it out like they were a short time away from killing off Vic, Gaspipe, and the Brooklyn crew, but they had ample time when all were on the street but didn't do nothing.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/12/17 12:30 AM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Dante

That's actually a good article by Scott there. Madonna was close to Larca, who has or had Bellomo's ear. With these families being close already, and his pedigree, funny. I know it's cliche at this point, but you got your white collar Crea, and blue collar Madonna, both equally respected in their specialties. Must be a good team....

If Crea dodges the murder indictment, the thing is, will his son skate too? I gotta read the thing, lol

This makes me wonder, yet again, does anyone know who supplied Amuso?
Did he and Casso, pick up after Madonna was off the street?


A year after Madonna was busted, Amuso and Casso were arrested in connection with a drug smuggling ring out of Thailand.

http://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/31/archiv...-ring.html?_r=0


Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/12/17 07:37 AM

Originally Posted By: MightyDR
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Dante

That's actually a good article by Scott there. Madonna was close to Larca, who has or had Bellomo's ear. With these families being close already, and his pedigree, funny. I know it's cliche at this point, but you got your white collar Crea, and blue collar Madonna, both equally respected in their specialties. Must be a good team....

If Crea dodges the murder indictment, the thing is, will his son skate too? I gotta read the thing, lol

This makes me wonder, yet again, does anyone know who supplied Amuso?
Did he and Casso, pick up after Madonna was off the street?


A year after Madonna was busted, Amuso and Casso were arrested in connection with a drug smuggling ring out of Thailand.

http://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/31/archiv...-ring.html?_r=0




I remember Amuse was arrested in the 70's at one of the NY airports bringing in heroin from Thailand. He didn't get much time for itn
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted - 03/14/17 03:57 AM

Originally Posted By: GerryLang
Don't get me wrong, Pizzaboy was a very good poster. I just think he was a homer when it came to the Luchese's Bronx crew. He always made it out like they were a short time away from killing off Vic, Gaspipe, and the Brooklyn crew, but they had ample time when all were on the street but didn't do nothing.


Gerry i think you make a good point about PB..i loved his posts but to me it was clear he was def misleading and or holding back on all things mafia in the Bronx... I remember he let it slip that Stevie Crea held court at a candy shop in Tuckahoe distinctly as one time he had to go back and censor himself.. but based on what I read id venture a guess that Stevie is the boss... i mean Matty may have the years and clout with doin alotta time in jail, but Stevie has had long standing union/construction ties and based on past indictments and articles hes by far the biggest earner and most connected Lucchese... to me idc what anyone says hes the boss on the street, Vic ain't sending messages from Allenwood directing Stevie what construction bids to award, who to clip and I doubt he has any say on who gets their button... just my opinion again
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