Help on Patriarca family chart

I'm reding black mass and how bulger and flemmi crippled the mob and I'm trying to make a reliable chart of the patriarcas today. it's difficult to say who's the boss but I say Peter limone as boss,and cheese man dinunzio as street boss,anyone can help me with the capos list ?

Here what I made:

Captains:
1. Joseph “Joe the Bishop” Achille Sr Prov
2. Anthony DiNunzio/53/North Boston (IP/12/21/2017)

Boston:
1. William Angelesco
2. Darin Bufalino
3. Robert “Bobby” Carrozza
4. John Cincotti
5. Gregory "Fat Boy" Costa
6. Biagio “Benny” DiGiacomo
7. Vincent Federico (IP/L) (Medford)
8. Vincent “The Animal” Ferrara (maybe retired)
9. Richard “Richie the Pig” Gambale (Malden)
10.Vincent “Dee Dee” Gioacchini
11.Frank Imbruglia/81 (maybe an associate)
12.Dennis “Champagne” LePore
13.James “Jimmy” Martorano
14.Joseph “Junior” Pingaro
15.Michael “Mike” Prochillo (UI/IP)
16.Pryce "Stretch" Quintina
17.Stephen Rossetti(IP/4/4/2044)
18.John “Jackie” Salemme
19.Frederick “Freddie the Neighbor” Simone
20.Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo
21.Carmen Tortora

Providence:
1. William "Billy Blackjack" Delsanto
2. Robert "Bobby" DeLuca
3. Vito “The Ox” DeLuca
4. Rocco "Rocky" Folco
5. Pasquale “Patsy” Galea
6. Matthew "Matty Gugs" Guglielmetti Jr
7. Louis “Luigi/Baby Shanks” Manocchio (maybe retired)
8. Blaize Marfeo
9. Joseph Paterno Jr
10.Joseph Ruggiero
11. Alfred "Chippy" Scivola



Connecticut:
1. Anthony “Tony the Beaver” Ascenzia Jr
2. Salvatore “Butch” D'Aquila
3. Mariano "Mario" Grasso



Alleged Made Men (read that was made but I'm not sure)

Louis DiNunzio (IP) 06/16/2017
Vincent Marino, a/k/a Gigi Portalla (IP) 07/24/2027
Joseph Paterno Sr
John Vitello


Associates (not sure if are made)

Pasquale "Patsy" Barone R.I.
Richard Bonfiglia R.I. (IP)
Dennis JJ. Coliseum Capasso R.I.
Vincent Capone
Anthony "Chuckie" Carlo
Frank Colantoni Jr
Michael Frisoli
Frank Limone
Gaetano J. Milano
Enrico Ponzo (IP) 03/01/2037
Anthony Rizzo
John Scudieri


Members Who Have Died Since 2000:
Donato “Danny” Angiulo (2009)
Frank "The Cat" Anguilo (2012)
Gennaro “Jerry” Anguilo (2009)
Michele “Mike” Anguilo
Rocco Argenti (2002)
Philip "Sonny'' Baiona (2007)
Frederick “Fred” Champa (2007)
Dominic Isabella
Richard “Richie” Floramo (2009)
Cono “Connie” Frizzi Sr. (2000)
Cono “Connie” Frizzi Jr. (2011)
Charles "Q-Ball" Quintina
Alexander “Sonny Boy" Rizzo (2005)
Anthony Rizzo (2004)
Rudolph “Rudy Earl” Sciarra (2012)
Anthony Saint Laurent (2016)

Members that flipped

Joseph Barboza
Antonino "Nino" Cucinotta
Vincent Flemmi
Stephen Flemmi
Kevin Hanrahan
John Kelley
Angelo Mercurio
Mark Rosetti
Frank Salemme
Vincent Teresa
John “Sonny” Castagna
John “Jackie” Johns

Is Vincent Ferrara retired? I thought i read Scott say that hes now a respected capo, but i cant find the article?

Also Furio u missed listingMatty Guglielmetti, hes a high ranking capo and maybe even Consigliere i think? I could be wrong on the admin part, but hes def the most powerful skipper in providence based on what ive read..can anyone weigh in on this?

Pretty sure Carozza and Costa are captains, Spagnolo as well.

I read that Ferrara is retired but give some advice to the new rising starts in the family

Carrozza,Costa,Spagnolo, Guglielmetti there too capos for only 38 made men. Some info on the alleged members voice ? Or the associates list ?

Costa has cheeseman's old crew (Medford) Marino and Scarpelli are new blood there. Spagnolo has revere (Angelesco is a terror) . Carozza has East Boston (rosetti crew as well as his own people). I would guess Anthony Dinunzio skippers the north end guys. Couldn't tell you shit about RI.....Russo would be a great person to chime in.

So sittite the capos are:

Costa
Spagnolo (revere)
Carozza (east boston)
Anthony Dinunzio (IP) (north end) acting capo ???
Joseph Achille (Prividence)

On this lists anything to say ?

Alleged Made Men (read that was made but I'm not sure)

Louis DiNunzio (IP) 06/16/2017
Vincent Marino, a/k/a Gigi Portalla (IP) 07/24/2027
Joseph Paterno Sr
John Vitello


Associates (not sure if are made)

Pasquale "Patsy" Barone R.I.
Richard Bonfiglia R.I. (IP)
Dennis JJ. Coliseum Capasso R.I.
Vincent Capone
Anthony "Chuckie" Carlo
Frank Colantoni Jr
Michael Frisoli
Frank Limone
Gaetano J. Milano
Enrico Ponzo (IP) 03/01/2037
Anthony Rizzo
John Scudieri

Word around is Anyhonys kid was made along w Scarpelli and Tore Marino. I never heard of the Paterno guy. Don't think Gigi ever got made.

So with Dinunzio,Scarpelli and Marino make 41 made men and 5 capos. Any tip on who's under which capo ?

Peter isn't the boss...Gigi not made..joe paterno v
Coached penn st for million years..regarding tore and Johnny conflicting whether they have the badge or not..I'm gonna go with not...there are a couple of other that either have it or will soon, obvious guys too if u really think about it

Biggie not the fbi or the police know exactly who's the boss,maybe tony Dinunzio with his brother as street boss. Parillo as consigliere ecc

I want to make a chart of the patriarcas family with a hierarchy and pics of the various made men.
So if there are 5 capos anyone know the names of the soldiers under each capo ?
Thanks

Ok stop searching,I found a 2016 chart


[img:center]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/mafi...=20160416050719[/img]

It's a few guys that rob a bunch of 20-25 yr old drug dealing kids...they deal some themselves-give money to some older guys who by there 50's have some sort of legitimate business.....the young kids they are robbing think they have the backing of God when in truth nobody gives a flying fuck. They pledge allegiance to each other and then take turns ratting. It's a joke. At least bikers stick together. I need a coffee.

sittite...seems to have it fairly accurate...although i dont think all rat...good amount of one side does though, thats for sure...most everything else pretty spot on..was at a biker event very very recently...came away feeling the same way as you said..although when you leave their events, coffee certainly aint needed haha

Agree. But wasnt that what mob guys been doing forver robbing the young guys to get in with the old dudes. Surprised we dont see mnay of the boston or rhode island guys kids on charts. Seems alot of the nyc guys kids are made.

Hello

I have been reading all of your post for a while now and I can not believe where you people get your information from do you all write things just for a reaction believe I know what is up with all of this nosense

Hello

First off Kevin was not a rat

Ap is not a made guy he could be if he wanted it

Bobby deluca is not on your rat list he was never a tough guy he let Dickie Callie get away with raping his own sister

Pat died a couple of years ago before Saint

Joe ruggiero paid for his button 250,000 to Frankie the rat and Bobby he is also no good he took a agents card for him to call them what real guy takes a card

So ever since the the chin and tony salerno, all the families have street boss ?

You're half joking, right? I mean that's got to be a gross exaggeration.

Hello

How do I change associate under my name can some one help me out

By not asking too many questions.

Er.... wait... it's actually the opposi.......

hahahahahahaha

Frank you are a person that knows nothing read my post you could learn a lot from me in fact I will not talk to you now

Frank

Just read your post you said bikers stick together well where are you from it looks like jersey the pagans dad and son were real nice guys both rats joe from Philly rat in the can fort Dix

You can't change it, it only changes after you reach a certain amount of posts.

Thank you very much

You're welcome, NE. I'd be interested in hearing any other info you have about the current New England guys and I'm sure some of the other guys on here would as well.

Being from Mass I'd love to know what's going on with them. I feel like once the Dinunzio's get too old it's over for them. You'll still have shit going on but the organized stuff is almost over with. Nobody trusts anyone.

Well when a lot of guys get old it is not easy Carmen is a very nice guy but from what I know Gerry was not happy with him Vinny Bobby c Johnny c Richie Dennis are all real guys

I used to date a girl on Endicott street. Would always walk by the cheese store and Gemini lounge. Felt like I was stalking an ex. Haha anyways, never saw much except foot traffic into both places.

New England you are right on.

In this day and age why would any smart criminal want the button???? The second you get it you've opened up 50 different ways to get jammed up. I suppose I don't know enough about bikers to state they stick together more so...... but I did come thru the streets for a stretch around here and it's not like the movies.

Hello

PMAC the New York young guys get made fast because for one thing only the genovese family take their time when the bring a guy in. Most guys today do not really keep track of how a guy was raised and if he really understands what the life means. You have a lot of good men that walk away from the life because of this but they remain loyal to friend that they grew up with and if needed they will be there. Very sad what has happen how many people rally know what this was suppose to stand for. Nobody should judge a man for what he has he should be judge for what he stands for there are so many guys that get made and people deep down know they are not worth anything and yet they treat the made guy like a king. If a guy is made and he the real deal then show him what he deserve's

Even out of all the anguilo brothers there kids were all left with plenty of money none are made guys. There was a whole article about the gambino soldier nick skins taping anthony dinunzio talking about burying rats and putting his son n another capos crew cause he didnt want it looking bad.

Hello

Nicky Skins ending up being bad because his excuse was his son got caught with drugs and he wanted to save him. He did end up killing himself. He is a jersey guy.

ever since Kenny Bear passed you don't here much from the Anguilo side of the fence.

Where do you guys get these list from blasé Mafeo is a low life he cried in jail like a little baby you have other people on this list how I do not know I will tell you this ri men

Ray jr
Bobo
Rich b
Ant jr
Eddie l

In your opinion new england is peter limone still the officila head of the family or he step down?

That another thing about the mob they respect there elders where in every street gang or any criminal organization in the usa they eat there elders .

What kind of a question is that I can not tell you that where do you people get your information the list was so far off you guys think things that are just not true

it was worth a shot. dont get ya panties in a bunch. its the fucking internet theres all types of infomation on it, some true some not. welcome to the board.

Well maybe you should know what is true and what is not true before you post because I know what is what

You didn't make this chart, Furio.

The text chart,yes was an old chart of pogo from black hand forum and tried to update it but at last find a 2016 chart more recent.
At least spend time for update a chart when there was just one. My bad, and blackhand banned my for 2 weeks :-(

Furio I dont understand why you keep posting pogos charts from blackhand. You know they dont like it. Why do you do it repeatedly?

Because it was only chart, I made a new capos list and updated the soldiers list because many of them died or retired and used info by bill father's site.
That it but if their charts had the copyright next time I'll pay for use it.

its the internet..an internet chart...with a lot of falsehoods btw...who gives a fuck if "some clown" 'don't like it', really?

Biggie, do you even know what we're talking about?

I've got no skin in the game between him and BH but he has to realize that there may be consequences.

I know exactly what you are talking about..hence my 'clown' references...worst that happens, they bar him, he knows going in, aint like someone gonna sleep under his bush or anything..if you have no skin in the game, why even mention it...guy posts something that's already on the internet, aint like hes posting bank account access to sonny barger, who cares

The Black Hand forum say that are the best site in the world here who cares