D'Arco Question - Early Years

Is there anything to support that Al D'Arco was in the Vario crew or is that a personal claim by Al in his book? Not saying I doubt it on any level, just wondering why there is little mention of him as a crew member/associate during the period in time that Paulie's crew was one of the more formidable ones in the city.

Was it that he was simply just another solider until he wasn't?

I know he wasn't made til nearly 50 and his star didn't truly rise until Vic and Gas began to take over and seek out help via an advisory role.

About to finish his book, have mixed feelings about much of the information being accurate and/or genuine, just curious if others have wondered the same or Al was undoubtedly on record with the Vario Crew even back into the 50s/60s as he claimed.

(DISCLAIMER: please don't respond just to say this topic has been discussed ad nauseam, at this point we've discussed nearly everything ad nauseam)

Happy Thanksgiving

Al D'Arco is credible. He might be self serving which all these guys are, but he was the real deal. A rat yes he was. Pretty sure he wasn't on record with Vario from the 50 and 60s, but by the late 70s he definitely was. Started out in Red Hook then was more involved in Manhattan at first. After feeling used by Little Davie Petillo he went full fledged with his cousin Joe Schiavo who was an old time guy under the old Vario crew captain. Made in 82 and took over the Vario crew in the late 80s.

@Yates

well put, self-serving. Just finished his book, lots I find hard to believe but after considering much of it I feel like you're pretty spon on.

Mob Boss is one of my favorites! A bit self serving but by all means he was around or involved with a few important figures in organized crime. (Tommy Ryan Eboli, a young Vic Amuso, the Prince Street crew, Kid Blast Gallo, Jimmy Alto etc...) I do feel he omitted certain truths though. He was just like Nicky Scarfo in the sense that they both were both so used to being broke that when they rose the ranks, they abused the power and money!

Everyone of these guys is self serving.

Henry Hill in Goodfellas was around all these killings and he never killed anyone. YEAH RIGHT!

Sammy Gravano only shot one guy. He had no choice but to kill all these guys. LIAR!

Ralph Natale was made by Carlo Gambino! FUCKING LIAR!

Yeah I thought the book was great - especially the first half

It is weird his name never comes up in henry hills book which is luke the history of varios crew from 60tys to 80tys. But he says he was living more in little italy. Read on the board lil al stayd in touch with a few of his friends and probaly held back like all the turncoats do.

I thought he testified against pretty much everybody he had any tangible info on.

Your rite he did testify against his friends in the landfill trial but they were all aquited and he got that guy louie bagels life. I forgot were i read he was still in contact with soome of his friends.

By his own admission he wasn't into anything big in his early days, operated out of Manhattan, only became part of the Vario crew because of his uncle and only became captain because he knew Amuso. So that's probably why he wasn't recorded as a Vario crew member earlier on.