Would John Favara be alive IF....

He didn't listen to his friend/ a Gambino guy who advised him to stay away from the wake & get rid of the damn car. Don't approach them

His absence supposedly infuriated Victoria Gotti more and yes he did eventually try to apologise but it was abit late by then and he was thanked with a bat

Had he shown up from day one, cried his eyes out and begged for forgiveness (literally on his knees), turned up at the wake.... And shown he was remorseful (yes I know it was an accident) but your dealing with the Gotti's here.... Would they have spared him

Ok obviously we would never know but just a thought.... His connected friend gave him the complete opposite advice when he seeked him out. And we know Gotti initially didn't want to even hurt the guy... Only his wife did

Who was his Gamnino friend?

This is such a delicate topic. Yes, it was an accident and yes you are dealing with the Gotti's. That being said, Favara should have left after apologizing that same day. He was in a no win situation as was Gotti. A very tragic event that in the end was very predictable. The lost of a son or daughter wether by accident or not, is devastating. Seeing him in the neighborhood would be too painful and volatile for Victoria and family. He should have been warned by LE to leave. A sad story for both families. RIP to the both of them.

Co-signed 100%, I couldn't have described the situation better myself Bean..

100% and to get up and just move job, family, house, etc is tough, but that being said....kind of a shame as you stated that LE didnt give him the iggy to get the F out, and I know gotti had some cops, but the whole thing is tragic and an accident....it seemed the cops allowed this poor guy to get killed

He grew up around Anthony Zappi (think he was a
Soldier) & his father Ettore Zappi was with Carlo. Anthony was the treasurer of a teamsters local union that had the contract with Castro Convertible Corp where Favara worked

Think he was also godfather to Scott Favara.

Hmm I can see what u guys mean with "moving away" but I don't think that would have solved his problem. Gotti still had the means to track him down. The only option was for the guy to go underground completely

The cops were no help because they probably thought no harm
would come to him. Due to it being an accident.

you guys are absolutely right. no matter how he played it it was all going to end the same. everything he could of done would be have deemed offensive.

John Favara was a disgusting human being. The man was reeking of alcohol and according to Victoria Gotti, he even said 'who's fucking kid is this?' when the poor child lay dying on the street.

Ralphie I will never trust victoria gotti, that Favata was a drunken when killed frankie sound like an excuse for the Favara murder.
Favara for survive should take some money and go on the lam, but maybe he thinked "We are in 1980 not in the prohibition" and maybe condamned him.

No offense Ralphie but taking the word of Victoria Gotti is like taking the word of Hitler. She is full of shit and is the definition of "babe in the woods". She always makes herself or her family the innocent victim. I had relatives who lived in the area at the time and from all accounts John Favara was a good guy. He wasn't reeking of alcohol. What happened was they were doing work on the street and some genius put big dupsters in the street and Frankie gotti happened to dart in front of it on the minibike and favara had no chance to avoid him. It was a tragic accident. So basically don't believe anything Victoria Gotti sayas because she never tells the truth about anything

Don't know were you heard this Ralph but with all due respect you're wrong! That's not how it went down!

This is from papers filed in Carneglia's trial on the Favara killing:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/in...rticle-1.391230

What was the neighborhood's reaction towards the Gotti's after Favara went missing?

The Gottis all say the same thing, that he was reeking of alcohol and cursing at the lifeless body of Frankie Boy. THEY WERE THERE!!! Then he never sent them flowers or tried to console the family. He behaved like a cold blooded murderer who was only angry because the kid was in his way. And let's not forget that this was a child. He murdered a child! I just don't see how you can defend people who drink and drive. That's like playing Russian roulette with the world. You'd have to be evil to do it. Evil or insanely stupid. I'm not saying JG should've killed this man, but I understand. A child was murdered.

And no I am not pro Gotti like that Kasparoza maniac, but I am familiar with the pain of losing a young loved one. There's nothing worse.

Yeah, Victoria Gotti says the guy was drunk and cussing at the body of the dead child. And then she goes on saying that her father had nothing to do with the murder of Favara. She says that John told him "it was an accident". Very forgiving of John, considering this alleged behavior. I don't really trust anything that woman says.

In Shadow of my father Junior DOES NOT say anything about Favara being drunk. He does say he was told it was an accident.

i dont know about favaras personailty but i do know from capecis 1996 book Rise and fall of John Gotti in that book capeci says that the murder of favara actually gained john gotti support in the neighborhood apparently favara was disliked by many and they supported johns decision

When it comes to the Gotti family I'd say Junior is the one family member who has the least amount of credibility. He has already been exposed as a liar time and again.



I've heard that as well. A lot of people seem to believe that the murder of John Favara was a heartless act. And again, I'm not justifying his murder, but this was not some angel.

I think some of you guys are referring to Victoria Gotti's book where she does say that Favara was drunk. That being said, why didn't Junior say the same in his book? I would believe Junior more than I would believe Victoria Gotti and, I find that rat hard to believe. Junior would have written that if it was true.Here is an excerpt from her so called book:

http://nypost.com/2009/09/28/gotti-the-day-our-boy-was-stolen-away/

You do realize Junior has been exposed as a liar several times.

Yes I am aware of that but why wouldn't he corroborate Victoria's story?

Maybe it was too painful for him. It was his brother after all. On a human level anyone can understand that.

Favara was also coming home from work (maybe he worked drunk) and his kid was friends with the Gotti kids, so he definitely wouldn't have been angrily asking whose kid is this, like Victoria claims. I also assume he would have been quite scared after realizing he just drove over one of Gotti's kids. Anyway I wasn't there so who knows. Just Gotti's present everything so that someone else is always at fault and they're perfect.

If he was drunk wouldn't there have been an arrest at the scene considering he stuck around long enough doing a victory dance over the kids body (according to the gottis).

I think its just a case of a guy accidentally running a kid over who just happened to be the son and brother of a bunch of dysfunctional thugs. There son could have gotten killed robbing an old lady and they probably would have somehow rationalised killing the old lady.

in capecis book he said what angered the community was days after he killed the kid he held a party and people just disliked him over other stuff not sure of he was drunk. He was speeding aswell i dont know the full details but i do know about the party and the community was happy he got killed. John Gotti was respected in his neighborhood by locals his funeral is just one of many examples

I have no idea what victoria said i am just stating what capeci said he is normally accreute

GR, FYI, you can read what she said on my post above from her book

That's exactly right my friend. The facts speak for themselves. All those lies about the Favara case came from the likes of Curtis Sliwa and government people who refused to listen to anything positive about John Gotti.

Favara wasnt evil or drunk. It was a accident. You do realize victoria gotti is one Of the biggest liars out there right. She only said those things about favara to try and jusify murdering him. I feel bad for the favara family. His wife had a lot of trouble coping after he was viciously killed

If it had been a freak accident then John Gotti would not have been so adored in his neighborhood. That makes no sense.

adored? Gotti was a piece of shit. Anybody who adored him were morons.

The guy was a gangster, but he was loved in Howard Beach. He helped a lot of unfortunate people and according to Victoria Gotti, he helped send hundreds of kids to college.

"The driver of the car, John Favara, was a fifty-one-year-old service manager at a Castro Convertibles furniture plant, he lived with his wife and two adopted children on 86th Street, directly behind the Gotti family on 85th Street. His son, Scott, was childhood friends with John and Victoria Gotti’s oldest son, John Jnr.

On March 18, 1980, John Favara was arriving home form work, when Gotti’s son, Frank, darted in front of his car. He had not seen the minibike suddenly shoot out from behind a garbage dumpster until it was too late. Favara told the police he was momentarily blinded by the sun and did not see the boy.

The crash was ruled an accident by the police, but not everyone saw it the same way."
https://mafianewsblog.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/this-day-in-history-what-happened-to-john-favara/

If he was drunk he would have been arrested period!

again why do you believe victoria gotti? She is a proven liar

What did she lie about? She is one of the most respected journalists/writers in NY.

^^LMAO^^

Would the NY Post or the Star hire her if she was so unreliable? Come on. This woman has proven herself to be a very talented writer. One of the best novels I've ever read was The Senator's Daughter. Oh well, to each his own.

obviously you are a gotti fan(unfortunetly) but victoria gotti is pretty much a bitch. Her mother is the same way.

He should have quit his job told his wife sell the house and move at least a half hour away. Out of sight out of mind. This guy big cheese accidentally hit and killed a young Asian girl I think in the north end he was fucked up I heard n read. I hit a drunk guy in a cross walk just didn't see him it was raining like 50 people seen it I pulled over the guy looked dead then he jumped up took a pint of vodka out his pocket swinged read a bible and left fucking scary pueto Rican guy new no English. Even the lynch mob had to let me go. It was at a 4 corner red light in the hood nuts.

Maybe he thought since he's just a normal citizen nothing would happened. Big Paul is boss he not giving a OK even thou he's guy nino and Roy are serial killers. Gotti hung with a few Rhode island guys that's were I guess its was first confirmed from . and all the guys who murders dude were associates I guess. But its probably a firstfirst.

Celtics just got killed so much for money line players.

Was Victoria Gotti really called one of the most respected writers in New York? Wow.

It's right up there with James Joyce.

Idk is this was posted before but this happened in early 1980's would Gotti have clear this with Castellano or since it was something more personal he wouldn't have to do that?

Good question.....My guess would be he would get a pass. He ran over his son.

You have got to be trolling. Even the 4th of July fireworks and spread wasn't paid for out of his pocket.

But of course some idiots fall for it hook, line and sinker.

The same kind of idiots who go complaining to Diane Sawyer when Sammy Gravano kills their drug dealing brother or child porn baron father.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vicky had a ghost writer..

Im pretty sure he would just go to neil on most things. Paul gave neil full authority over certain crews in the family in order to pacify him for being passed over when carlo died

Dont u fuckin get it ralphie?,,ALL the gotti's r FUCKIN' liars!! what is it w/u & your irrational behavior??,,she is a FICTION WRITER first off,u know..make believe shit??,they r all liars & scum, how many people & how many times do u have to b told..r u drunk or something??

..that a good one helen..lmao.

could never find a picture of Favara on the net. Does anybody have one to post?