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Philly Mob in 2016

Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/25/16 10:41 PM

Per Mayonnaise face Dave Schratweiser's Twitter , there is going to be a huge piece on the Fox29 News in Philly tonight at 10pm on the Philly mob in 2016. Mayonnaise Face Scratweiser's Twitter also has a bunch of new photos up from him stalking the LCN boys in South Philly. Schratweiser Twitter
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/25/16 10:55 PM

Lol, Mayonnaise face.

What's that from, Dante?
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/25/16 10:56 PM

It's my nickname for Scratweiser, that's what it is...
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/25/16 11:47 PM

Love it !! Mayo face & stalker !! Man he's got to get a life .chasing the boys around at his age.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Love it !! Mayo face & stalker !! Man he's got to get a life .chasing the boys around at his age.


LOL Serp, I lost all respect for Mayonnaise face Scratweiser when he zoomed his camera into Uncle Joe Ligambi's house when the front door was open and filmed him reading the newspaper in his loungewear. That's beyond creepy
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 01:12 AM

Great name Dante! If you or somebody else could post Mayo Face's video it would be appreciated. Thanks
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 04:48 AM

Here's the news piece -

http://www.fox29.com/news/82443107-story


Some good footage there. While 25-35 active guys seems believable, the claim they're "back to mid-1980's strength" is obviously a stretch. Looks like Schratweiser also buys into the 4 faction theory. Interesting that he labels Merlino "former boss," Ligambi "acting boss," and Mazzone "underboss."
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:26 AM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Here's the news piece -

http://www.fox29.com/news/82443107-story


Some good footage there. While 25-35 active guys seems believable, the claim they're "back to mid-1980's strength" is obviously a stretch. Looks like Schratweiser also buys into the 4 faction theory. Interesting that he labels Merlino "former boss," Ligambi "acting boss," and Mazzone "underboss."


Ivy thanks for the post pal, since I moved to Baltimore dont get fox philly thought missed that shit used to love mob talk fridays at 10

I agree its interesting that dave considering 4 factions..why wouldn't Ligambi and Merlino be in the same faction? I always was under the.impression joe was put in as boss by Merlino?

Other knowledgeable philly guys on here have echoed my sentiments that Philly is going through a sort of construction boom wbich is accurate..everytime I drove to my old school Temple theres shit tons of building going on can definitely see they takin there piece of the pie....anyone venture a guess how many capos and who they are? Kinda tricky w this 3 faction bc but if I had to guess id say Narducci, Pungidtore, Lancelloti, and maybe Lucibello/ Borgesi??

Think I may hVe asked this before but where is Scoops and the Nkrth Jersey faction fall in? If im not mistaken they have almost all their guys out including Fazzini who in all likelihood is the successor sor Scoops imo...any.thoughts fellas?
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:36 AM

All this faction talk is BS. The only people that are on the outs of the Philly Mob is Narducci and whoever is with him.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:41 AM

Agree this faction talk is bullshit.

Good footage but that's it. The rest all gibber and speculation. Nothing concrete or new.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:54 AM

I said i didn't believe in the faction talk from the begining...i don't even believe narducci is a separate faction, narducci is a capo in the philly mob and merlino is the boss, they didn't even discuss what merlino is doing with his florida crew
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 06:20 AM

Ive been saying this for years philly is back. They have had a nice 15 year run.....15 years is a LONG TIME.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 09:25 AM

If I'm not mistaken, Schratweiser was aided by law enforcement when putting together this piece, and on more than once during the video he quotes acting law enforcement one of his source, as well as the usual Capeci & former prosecutor.


Not going to immediately write him off, but reliable Philly posters have been stating the faction thing as being a thing for about a year now. Another thing, at absolutely no point during the piece did Shratenweiser claim or actually give the impression that either of the "factions" were against each other, or were "on the outs", he simply described them as crews within the same organization. At least that's how it was implied to me. I didn't hear him give the slighest implication of "troubles" between said "factions", again I got the implication that he simply used the term faction, while describing the active crews. Which is another thing, we've heard from a handful of those same posters and various articles written by Scott, & Anastasia whom exactly were heading those "factions/crews", and outside of Ligambi, it's always been Mazzone, Pungitore & Narducci. What a lot of those same posters were off about was the mention of Ligambi having a crew of his own and still running things overall for Joey, instead of Mazzone. That's another thing I'm not going to immediately write off and actually see it for what it is. A possibility. The last evidence or "proofs" we have from law enforcement, is officially, Ligambi was the boss, that was after the two acquittals from the trial caused by the Stefanelli tapes. We heard through sources like Capeci and even Shratenweiser himself, that Ligambi planned on taking a backseat and semi-retiring. Yet as the surveillance during this piece showed, over time, that may have been proven to be wrong by those producting active investigations on these guys, because Ligambi sure is shown meeting with more than a couple noticeable's from a few of these "made lists" on this site and others.

Another reason why Ligambi & Mazzone/Merlino possibly might be separate crews, which is a theory I'm basing off of the Stefanelli tapes, is the fact that we know, as Licata is heard saying, that Ligambi denied making the three guys Merlino wanted made while he was in prison, because he didn't know them very well. Making those guys Merlino's responsibility. Merlino comes home and we hear that possibly those three guys were among those recently made. Perhaps, just perhaps, those three guys were then put under the Merlino/Mazzone crew. It's absolutely plausible that no Florida crew was mentioned, either because they aren't doing thing which is making them pop up on the radar for LE in Philly, or there simply isn't a Florida crew, and Joey is still keeping his business based in his old neighborhood, far from where he sleeps. Or perhaps this said "Florida crew" has to do with the active "investigation" Shratenweiser said the authorities were currently conducting on Merlino's.


Again, not saying Shratenweiser was 100% correct on everything, but what he's said, has been said on various forums, by various insiders for quite some time, the players were just off, and guys weren't considered as being players when they actually were. For instance, like Ligambi is shown more than once during this piece, conducting walk and talk meetings, Georgie Boy Borgesi was clearly shown in walk and talks and actual documented meetings, like the one at the real estate office which was mentioned by date during this piece. Yet again, various insiders(whether it was posters "in the know", our own journalists, or Anastasia) claimed he was on the outs and that guys left him to himself and left him alone to earn. Yet, we're shown here that the guy might actually be a bit of a player, and is shown meeting more than once with the same individuals who were supposedly shunning him. And the new hangout spot, which I believe was confirmed owned by Borgesi during the Philly piece (credits to Mulberry, because he was the first to mention Borgesi had a new clubhouse which was buzzing, even going as far to take pictures of the exact spot) is clearly a place that matters, as in more than a couple of the outside shots, we can clearly see some recognizable faces, and again, a lot of notables from those various made lists.


I wouldn't be surprised if an indictment does come down in which Ligambi is named as still being the acting boss, and Borgesi being the guy to see, like Uncle Joe's proxy for meets with the other guys. And that Mazzone may be underboss, after all.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 10:40 AM

Punge doing well in real estate!
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 10:59 AM

Merlino and Ligambi are part of the same crew. I don't agree with them saying they are separate crews. They never were.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 11:14 AM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Agree this faction talk is bullshit.

Good footage but that's it. The rest all gibber and speculation. Nothing concrete or new.


As usual Sonny, spot on!
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 02:03 PM

They can say he's an apologist and all, but I agree with the lawyer, the amount of funds spend on prosecuting these guys is way too much..

I'm not saying that they should leave them completely alone, but everything has to be in accordance with the harm being done to society by the groups they prosecute..
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 02:50 PM

@sinatra:interesting, so according to your theory where does this leave johny chang? And it actually makes since for all of the heavy hitters to have thier own crews with so many hands in the pot if its true, kind of auippa/chicago style
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 02:57 PM

So lets say borgesi is the underboss for ligambi's crew and mazzone is thd underboss for merlino's crew with merlino's crew being the top crew on the streets
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Agree this faction talk is bullshit.

Good footage but that's it. The rest all gibber and speculation. Nothing concrete or new.


As usual Sonny, spot on!


How is it spot on? Because you agree with it?

Multiple Philly posters that have been pretty reliable over the years, as well as Philly Journalists and law enforcement sources say that is how it is, and with the multiple tensions/beefs...I dont see why it is so unbelievable to some of you guys.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 03:32 PM

Dante, what is your opinion on factions vs a unified family?
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 03:57 PM

Not once did David Fritchey the former Fed, or Anastasia say anything about 4 factions. Mayo Face was the only one who said it and supposedly it was from "inside sources". Who? To throw off the feds and give them misinformation ala Genovese family? Just my opinion Blackjack only time will tell.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 04:07 PM

Mayo face is killing me lmao
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 04:23 PM

I have no opinion on the matter, I'm a Jersey guy and I work in Midtown Manhattan. I used to date a South Philly Italian broad a few years ago and only then I used to have the inside locals south philly gossip and used to see these guys out all the time in South Philly/Margate when I was hanging with my ex. I once saw Sonny Mazzone throw a stink bomb in the men's room of Quattro Bar and run away giggling. I can tell you one thing if no one has picked up on this yet, Philly does LCN nothing like New York and New Jersey. From the structure all the way down to the stupid little things like how they dress. I've never seen a made guy in Jersey or New York ever wear a baseball hat , which I used to see all the time in south philly and which the video indicates they still do wear all the time. I do know that Nicodemo was big into flipping houses / real estate and that Dominic Grande has risen big time in status and has taken over all of Nicodemo's house flipping/ real estate ventures while he's a guest of the government . I would
Imagine Dom Grande has gotten Mazzone involved heavily in this too as they are related via marriage.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 04:25 PM

Mayonnaise face Dave Scratweiser is the worst! He must have been so creepy in South Philly for two months filming these guys, talk about an invasion of privacy....
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 04:30 PM

Pretty cool. But even in scarfo days wasn't there only 2 3 capos in all of Philly. I mean they look happy they rode out a long bad storm and all in good health and making money. The guy pung and narducci are they still on parole and have don't associate guys? And how the old man Chang posing with pics of merlino a known felon he must be off papers. So that guy taffy gets out soon will he be on parole of free to mingle like Joe Chang.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
@sinatra:interesting, so according to your theory where does this leave johny chang? And it actually makes since for all of the heavy hitters to have thier own crews with so many hands in the pot if its true, kind of auippa/chicago style



I don't know, that's what makes it interesting, to me anyway. If any of what was reported on is true, then I think the whole admin on some of these charts need rearranging.

I just have a question why so many seem to find it implausible that Ligambi & Merlino may have separate crews and not necessarily be in the same clique, so to speak. Ligambi is a lot older than these guys, it would make since that he simply may have his own circle of guys he likes to associate with, and Borgesi may be his link to the Merlino/Mazzone group, as well as all the others. Not to mention again, the Stefanelli tapes, where we find out that Ligambi opted to NOT make the guys Joey sponsored, and instead had those guys wait for Joey to come home. Ligambi was a Scarfo enforcer, while at the same time playing on the Gino's Cafe baseball team, and opts to lead a quieter life than that of Merlino and his circle. There's as much to support Ligambi & Merlino having their own groups, as there is as them belonging to the same one, which I don't think was ever an official word from law enforcement. I could be wrong though. And none of that is to say that Ligambi hates associating with Merlino and Co. or hates when they're around, just that outside of "family" functions and gatherings, both lead different lives, so to speak.

But in my opinion, I think there may be some truth to that part of the report.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:10 PM

@ i don't know about that, your stepping way out on the ledge and i withdraw my support of you lol...your crazy man! Just crazy! Lol
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:14 PM

I think the lagambi not inducting the men merlino wanted proves the opposite. Why woul merlino want ligambi to induct merlino's own guys into ligambi's crew???? If merlino told him to induct them it proves at least merlino, mazzone and ligambi is in the same crew, ligambi just didn't feel comfortable with the guys merlino wanted inducted
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:21 PM

I wonder what a merlino led induction ceremony is like
Posted By: mike68

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 05:31 PM

I think it's hilarious that the big reveal in this is that a guy bought property for $200k, renovated it, and sold for a profit with '649,000' being flashed across the screen! That's what it's come to? A guy not breaking any laws by investing in real estate is news now!
Posted By: F_white

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 06:54 PM

The whole story is someone thinking out loud no real story to tell.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: mike68
I think it's hilarious that the big reveal in this is that a guy bought property for $200k, renovated it, and sold for a profit with '649,000' being flashed across the screen! That's what it's come to? A guy not breaking any laws by investing in real estate is news now!


Where do you think the 200k came from?

His loaders job at Lowes?
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:04 PM

After watching the video..Georgie Boy doesnt appear to be on the outs at all, but I guess you never know
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:05 PM

I got a big kick out of how bloated Ed Jacobs looked. He was praising these guys and making them out to be pillars of the communuty. I think Georgie was squeezing his nuts under the desk everytime he was asked a question by Mayo Face. lol
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:06 PM

I don't get it , they are talking like this is the first time a mob guy is involved in Real estate or construction .

I know many many people that have successful restaurants bars & nightclubs and not one of them can live the life that Skinny is living and half the time they are tied to there Business ten to fourteen hrs a day ..

And don't think Georgie is going to sit for anyone. He is going to stir the pot till he has the most ...
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:20 PM

I agree they do dress real casual and shit but I have seen Allie boy wearing baseball hats before. Phillys a fuckong weird place.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:38 PM

But Georgie isn't stirring any pots as far as we know. Again, people are acting as if, this is just Shratweiser and his two cents. He was aided in production of this piece by active Philadelphia law enforcement. I don't think he just woke up, and said I'm going to do a news piece based solely on my opinion and with no input from actual law enforcement, past and present. It's said multiple times throughout the video that a lot of the information came from current LE who are watching these guys attempting to catch them up on something which leads to an indictment.


Georgie Boy wouldn't exactly be sitting either, being the go-to for Uncle Joe places Borgesi in a prominent position. And as the video has shown, he's met with various "top brass" of the Philly LCN, most the top guys that we know of right now, are shown right in front of his clubhouse, multiple times throughout the video. If he was stirring the pot and was on the outs, and screwing guys over for the benefit of himself and having the most out of everyone, why would these guys be meeting with him so often, why would they be present at a social club which he owns? It just doesn't make any sense.


Again, this is solely my opinion, and speculation, but I don't think Dave S is all that off with this piece. And again, I'm of the opinion that Georgie Boy is the go-to guy for his uncle, which puts him among the top rungs of the family, possibly without even having an official admin position.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 07:50 PM

I just Googled Dave Fritchey and he was in charge of the Philadelphia Strike Force of the government. He has been around prosecuting as far back as the Bruno days. If they have 4 factions why didn't Mayo Face ask him for his opinion? Fritchey has been around for all the wars in Philadelhia. Listen to the video again. It's Mayo face saying it. That would be big news because of a possible run by one of the factions for power and control that could lead to violence. But there was no mention of that by Fritchey or Anastasia. Instead it's was all about making money flipping real estate. I got out of the video that Philadelphia is growing in numbers and is making money.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 08:16 PM

Funny to see Merlino walk presidential.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
I think the lagambi not inducting the men merlino wanted proves the opposite. Why woul merlino want ligambi to induct merlino's own guys into ligambi's crew???? If merlino told him to induct them it proves at least merlino, mazzone and ligambi is in the same crew, ligambi just didn't feel comfortable with the guys merlino wanted inducted


Hey, that's the fun of it all, we can all have our own opinions formed out of this piece and debate. But just to be clear, I'm not saying Joey wanted Ligambi to induct his guys into his crew. But while Joey was in prison, Ligambi was the acting boss, so he'd be the one conducting all of the making ceremonies anyway. And he wouldn't necessarily be inducting those select guys Merlino wanted into his crew. He could've stated during the ceremony "such and such, you're under Mazzone until Joey comes home, your captain is Stevie, but he's not your official crew boss, he's just holding the seat for Joey" and those guys would've understood that they're under Merlino. But I think the fact that Ligambi didn't want to make the guys, proves that they just might be heading separate crews. Because Ligambi's reason for not inducting the three Merlino sponsored from the can, was that he didn't know the guys, that was the exact words that came from Licata. If they were in the same crew, why would Ligambi NOT know them or feel comfortable with them? And if they're in the same crew with Ligambi ultimately being a subordinate of Joey Merlino, wouldn't Merlino have had the ability to override Ligambi's feelings and pushed him to make his guys anyway? This also goes back to the discussion currently going on on this forum and others about the street power of an incarcerated Cosa Nostra boss. But in Joey's case, we know he was close to coming home then, his proxies (Mazzone & Johnny Chang, and maybe Ligambi)were strong on the street, so he pretty much would've had the authority to have whomever he wanted to receive a button during that select ceremony, yet for some reason it didn't go like that.

Again, this is all just my opinion and speculation. But right now, I'm actually leaning towards Shratweiser's piece being more of an accurate view into the Philly Mob than what most of us are claiming. Some insiders shared info long ago that was also stated in this piece, so they weren't all that far off. At the same time, none of them mentioned Ligambi still being recognized as the official street boss, Borgesi being a player, or Ligambi heading one of the four crews or "factions". So there was also a lot of information they misinterpreted or just didn't know. Another interesting thing, Johnny Chang. More than a couple of these same insiders have shared info that a lot of guys are looking at Chang sideways for his choice of friends and his whose he been hanging out with, some of those guys being known informants. I find the lack of any mention of him during this piece, interesting, when I think back on that claim made by some of the "in-the-know" posters.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 08:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
I just Googled Dave Fritchey and he was in charge of the Philadelphia Strike Force of the government. He has been around prosecuting as far back as the Bruno days. If they have 4 factions why didn't Mayo Face ask him for his opinion? Fritchey has been around for all the wars in Philadelhia. Listen to the video again. It's Mayo face saying it. That would be big news because of a possible run by one of the factions for power and control that could lead to violence. But there was no mention of that by Fritchey or Anastasia. Instead it's was all about making money flipping real estate. I got out of the video that Philadelphia is growing in numbers and is making money.



Anastasia has written articles in the recent past co-signing the four factions theory. Because he wasn't video taped stating it during this piece, doesn't mean much. Dave Fritchey is also the one who said that currently, they've grown back to the strength of the Scarfo era. So even if Fritchey did co-sign the four factions theory, I don't see too many people willing to believe him on that either.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 08:38 PM

Man, Grande seems to be in a good mood these days.

Guess he is happy after getting stressed and grey now that he is fairly certain Nicodemo wont rat him out lol
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
After watching the video..Georgie Boy doesnt appear to be on the outs at all, but I guess you never know


apparently geogre and steve mazzone are close they are thinking of opening a bar together. Not everyone dislikes geogre.

Its marty angelni who is the main guy who is beefing with geogre and from what i hear joey merlino is not on good terms with geogre as joey is backing marty

Johnny chang also dislikes geogre
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
After watching the video..Georgie Boy doesnt appear to be on the outs at all, but I guess you never know


apparently geogre and steve mazzone are close they are thinking of opening a bar together. Not everyone dislikes geogre.

Its marty angelni who is the main guy who is beefing with geogre and from what i hear joey merlino is not on good terms with geogre as joey is backing marty

Johnny chang also dislikes geogre
Sorry,not 2 go off topic ,but,I met george when i (we) were kids,very briefly when i was selling track suits on the corner of broad & Mckean from a sidewalk rack, around '85 & I still remember him w/ his baseball cap, still 2 this day, he wears a cap, (maybe not so much anymore),what is it w/him & the f-ing caps??..does he have an insecurity?..it is so un-mob looking,..maybe 2 enhance his otherwise ghoulish (so pale) looks..anyway,he stopped tory (scafidi)from stomping on my shit after he (tory)threw my rack into the street after I would not give him a refund explaining our exchanges only policy..needless 2 say.. he got his money back(I had no idea who he was )..he actually said that too,(do u know who i am)..& also figured out that i was in fact a naive kid from n.e. philly who did not know what the fuck i was getting into..all because his sister tried 2 buy him a nice velour running suit (via wrong size)......SORRY,this was supposed 2 b about georgie boy,I'll shut up now.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Multiple Philly posters that have been pretty reliable over the years, as well as Philly Journalists and law enforcement sources say that is how it is, and with the multiple tensions/beefs...I dont see why it is so unbelievable to some of you guys.


Because there's zero evidence only speculation that this is the case.

Everyone speculated that when Joey Pung came home in 2010 he wouldnt play ball with Merlino, everyone speculated that when Narducci came home in 2012 He wouldn't play ball, everyone speculated that when Chickie came home he wouldn't play ball... And NOTHING has happened. NOTHING. Except bullshit speculation.

Jeezus, your hero Scott Bernstein (the guy who's home city he's called has up to 60 wise guys in the last decade) has even been throwing round the Borgesi's on the outs... War imminent drama pieces.

And here we see ol Georgy boy walking hand in hand down Passyunk ave with all his girlfriends. What a laugh.

Lots of speculation. Zero actual evidence.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/26/16 11:02 PM

They don't have a bunch of dinosaurs like comparable n.e. family. The oldest guy is Chang then ligambi or scoops everyone else probably under 60. I bet there a few old guys who are made that fly under the radar. Wonder who runs the stolen shit. That must still be there.
Posted By: NickyScarfo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 12:58 AM

Funny how ever since I started watching mob talk Anasasia was always saying the mob is done and played out etc now he's saying were seeing mob numbers similar to during Scarfo era lol
Posted By: Phriction

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 12:59 AM

What I want to know is who is the douche wearing the Cowboys jacket?
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 12:30 PM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Multiple Philly posters that have been pretty reliable over the years, as well as Philly Journalists and law enforcement sources say that is how it is, and with the multiple tensions/beefs...I dont see why it is so unbelievable to some of you guys.


Because there's zero evidence only speculation that this is the case.

Everyone speculated that when Joey Pung came home in 2010 he wouldnt play ball with Merlino, everyone speculated that when Narducci came home in 2012 He wouldn't play ball, everyone speculated that when Chickie came home he wouldn't play ball... And NOTHING has happened. NOTHING. Except bullshit speculation.

Jeezus, your hero Scott Bernstein (the guy who's home city he's called has up to 60 wise guys in the last decade) has even been throwing round the Borgesi's on the outs... War imminent drama pieces.

And here we see ol Georgy boy walking hand in hand down Passyunk ave with all his girlfriends. What a laugh.

Lots of speculation. Zero actual evidence.


My hero Scott Burnstein? lol Far from it...He is about as much my hero as you are Ivys lackey.

And actually if you saw my post a few more after that, AFTER I watched the video...I then stated...Borghesi doesnt actually look to be on the outs at all...but that doesnt mean the faction theory is null and void...just divided differently.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 12:56 PM

It was reported that borgesi walked out on a sitdown with merlino and mazzone making people think philly is on the brink of war and now we see mazzone and borgesi walking down the street laughing...this makes me question everything, is merlino and borgesi really beefing or is it bullshit, is merlino and narducci really beefing or is that bullshit too. We have to admit that everything we thought we knew about philly is wrong and i bet thats confusing the hell out of the fbi
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 01:00 PM

It amazes me that a couple clips from a two month mob investigation, replayed over and over, can lead people to conclusions so quickly...

It is possible walk out on a sit down and also walk down the street with someone.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 01:02 PM

You do gotta admire these guys a little bit. Opening up social clubs in South Philly... Trying to relive their glory days.
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 01:34 PM

I don't know much about Philly but is it possible that these "factions" everyone keeps talking about are crews?
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 01:38 PM

The crew in philly kind of reminds me of the jersey lucchese crew in the late 80's.
A lot of younger guys who were friends since they were kids and a lot of them are related. Very similar dynamic in that regard.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: mike68
I think it's hilarious that the big reveal in this is that a guy bought property for $200k, renovated it, and sold for a profit with '649,000' being flashed across the screen! That's what it's come to? A guy not breaking any laws by investing in real estate is news now!


Where do you think the 200k came from?

His loaders job at Lowes?


I know what you mean, but the Pungitore's have always been into real estate going back to the 80's
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Multiple Philly posters that have been pretty reliable over the years, as well as Philly Journalists and law enforcement sources say that is how it is, and with the multiple tensions/beefs...I dont see why it is so unbelievable to some of you guys.


Because there's zero evidence only speculation that this is the case.

Everyone speculated that when Joey Pung came home in 2010 he wouldnt play ball with Merlino, everyone speculated that when Narducci came home in 2012 He wouldn't play ball, everyone speculated that when Chickie came home he wouldn't play ball... And NOTHING has happened. NOTHING. Except bullshit speculation.

Jeezus, your hero Scott Bernstein (the guy who's home city he's called has up to 60 wise guys in the last decade) has even been throwing round the Borgesi's on the outs... War imminent drama pieces.

And here we see ol Georgy boy walking hand in hand down Passyunk ave with all his girlfriends. What a laugh.


Lots of speculation. Zero actual evidence.


lol Made me laugh
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 06:23 PM

geogre is beefing with marty and joey that is true scott said that

i do know geogre and steve are close they are apparently planning on opening a bar together not everyone dislikes geogre


please stop the scott hate lets not turn this into one of the same arguments people dont like him fine i respect that but dont bring it up every thread thats your opinions i dont even know why scott is being brought into this. I dont understand the arguaring on this site all petty things i have been guilty myself on one occasion awhile back i regret but i am just going to leave these sort of arguments
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 06:34 PM

Scott was brought up because it was he who has been trumpeting the 'factions' 'news' in addition to Borgesi's being on the outs.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 06:39 PM

Yeah, if he wants to report and be considered a credible site, then we have to be willing to examine his reports with some hindsight available.

That said, Mayo face's (lol) report doesn't exactly say much. And you can still be on the outs and talking to people.

It is all speculation right now, from every side. We probably won't know until an indictment or a rat.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 07:01 PM

People being friendly and hating or plotting to kill each other is the way of the mob.
Stanfa made Joey merlino and Mikey Chang at the same time they were trying to hit each other..and gotti had sitdown dinners at martenellis seafood restraunt with castellano and joked and laughed with him and Gallo and Frankie d and then murdered castellano...being friendly and then plotting on them is the way of the mob
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Phriction
What I want to know is who is the douche wearing the Cowboys jacket?


Sonny Mazzone Jr
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/27/16 11:35 PM

Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
Originally Posted By: Phriction
What I want to know is who is the douche wearing the Cowboys jacket?


Sonny Mazzone Jr


@Handsome Stevie: Oh really?? You think he's involved? Thought he was in the Air Force?
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 12:33 AM

Thought that Sonny was made?
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 02:27 AM

You thinking of Sonny, Sr.?
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 02:30 AM

No Sonny Jr is Sonny Mazzone's (Sr) son...
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 03:26 AM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
You do gotta admire these guys a little bit. Opening up social clubs in South Philly... Trying to relive their glory days.


It's great. Nothing wrong with a bunch of pals hanging out playing cards.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 12:46 PM

Originally Posted By: PetroPirelli
Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
You do gotta admire these guys a little bit. Opening up social clubs in South Philly... Trying to relive their glory days.


It's great. Nothing wrong with a bunch of pals hanging out playing cards.


Yes. And doing jigsaw puzzles. And knitting sweaters for their moms. And exchanging ziti recipes. And collecting donations for starving children in Africa.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Snakes
You thinking of Sonny, Sr.?


ah yes I was
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 02:54 PM

New Philly Gangster Report from Scott
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 03:00 PM

Scott's article basically lists like 5 administration members...

Merlino, Ligambi, Mazzone, and the two Changs.

Anyway, I wish Scott would stop fawning over Merlno. Every article he calls him handsome, charismatic, suave or "hip".
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Scott's article basically lists like 5 administration members...

Merlino, Ligambi, Mazzone, and the two Changs.

Anyway, I wish Scott would stop fawning over Merlno. Every article he calls him handsome, charismatic, suave or "hip".


Joey is all of the above!

Man oh man that hair! lmao

All jokes aside, didnt Capeci do this with Gotti for years? Its nothing new.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Scott's article basically lists like 5 administration members...

Merlino, Ligambi, Mazzone, and the two Changs.

Anyway, I wish Scott would stop fawning over Merlno. Every article he calls him handsome, charismatic, suave or "hip".


Haha, so true..
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 03:29 PM

Edited:

Read the article wrong
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Scott's article basically lists like 5 administration members...

Merlino, Ligambi, Mazzone, and the two Changs.

Anyway, I wish Scott would stop fawning over Merlno. Every article he calls him handsome, charismatic, suave or "hip".


Even Merlino's best friends know he's a deadbeat thief. It's just something they tolerate.

The guy has been ripping off his own best friends for over thirty years.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 04:42 PM

Quote:
The Merlino-Mazzone-Borgesi “mob triple threat” was the Clinton White House years’ underworld equivalent of N’Sync or the Backstreet Boys – they were young, they were hip, they were fawned over in a city where goodfellas and wiseguys are treated on-par with athletes and actors.


Quote:
The suave, handsome and magnetic mob boss plays the role of the consummate host at his eatery, glad-handing with customers, posing for photos with admirers to be posted on social media and doing interviews with the press, specifically NY Times Best-Selling author Anastasia, the writer who has brilliantly documented “The Skinny One’s” bold and fearless ascent through the ranks of the American mafia and his reign atop the Philadelphia underworld the past two dozen years.


How can anyone take this moron seriously?
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 04:44 PM

Yeah, it's a little much.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 06:50 PM

capeci said it about gotti.


The way geogre anatsatia taks about some of these guys in last gangster was ridiculous

but i agree this is a little much though i enjoy scotts articles he does get carried away in his descriptions of these guys sometimes especially joey then again alot of people do when describing joey lol
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 07:03 PM

lol What a fucking idiot.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 07:09 PM

“Schratwieser and the Fox guys nailed it, Uncle Joe is back on top, he’s shooting a lot of moves lately, keeping everyone happy,” said a GR source intimately familiar with the situation at hand.

Sorry but lol Why didnt Scott report this earlier then?
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Louiebynochi
Stanfa made Joey merlino and Mikey Chang at the same time they were trying to hit each other.

Stanfa made them before the war actually broke out. He had no idea they wanted to take over the family.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/28/16 11:40 PM

Don't know about that, the two sides were already at it, and Joey Chang Jr was made underboss to try to keep Merlino & Mikes side happy. A few guys were killed before that occurred, most were Stanfa consolidating power, but 1 or 2 of the earlier ones are attributed by plenty to the Merlino camp. There was a period of peace in which Merlino & I believe Mikey Chang as well, was made. An attempt was then made on Mikey Changs life when sent the hostilities back in motion and to a turning point, which was the war.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 12:14 AM

Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
Originally Posted By: Phriction
What I want to know is who is the douche wearing the Cowboys jacket?


Sonny Mazzone Jr


@Handsome Stevie: Oh really?? You think he's involved? Thought he was in the Air Force?


Never said he was involved just said that was him in the cowboys jacket
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 12:20 AM

Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
lol What a fucking idiot.


Eh, he's not that bad.

Just way overzealous with his descriptions of these guys.

They're just thugs, not suave, sexy, hip, amazing, strong, models of Italian ingenuity as he presents them
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: PetroPirelli
Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
You do gotta admire these guys a little bit. Opening up social clubs in South Philly... Trying to relive their glory days.


It's great. Nothing wrong with a bunch of pals hanging out playing cards.


Yes. And doing jigsaw puzzles. And knitting sweaters for their moms. And exchanging ziti recipes. And collecting donations for starving children in Africa.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: hoodlum
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: PetroPirelli
Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
You do gotta admire these guys a little bit. Opening up social clubs in South Philly... Trying to relive their glory days.


It's great. Nothing wrong with a bunch of pals hanging out playing cards.


Yes. And doing jigsaw puzzles. And knitting sweaters for their moms. And exchanging ziti recipes. And collecting donations for starving children in Africa.
lol
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 05:03 AM

Thanks to Chuckyfor originally posting this...



Wiseguys And Wannabes Back In Business
By George Anastasia For Bigtrial.net
January 28, 2016

Ron Galati won't be taking part in the underworld renaissance currently unfolding in South Philadelphia.

Instead, the wannabe wiseguy and auto body shop owner, who is already serving a 23-year federal sentence for a murder conspiracy conviction, is due in Common Pleas in September to answer fraud and murder-for-hire charges.

A trial date of Sept. 7 was set this morning at a status conference hearing before Judge Jeffrey Minehart. Galati, his wife Vicki and his son, Ron Jr., are slated to be at the defense table along with several other defendants if that trial goes off as planned.

Galati has been off the streets for the past two years and has missed out on what law enforcement sources are describing as the resurgence of the local crime family. At his bail hearing two years ago, Galati, now 65, was described by Assistant District Attorney Dawn Holtz as having a "close personal relationship" with then mob boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and Ligambi's nephew, mobster George Borgesi.

Both Ligambi and Borgesi were back in the news this week. On Monday, reporter Dave Schratwieser on a Fox 29 television special report, offered an update on the local mob, noting that Ligambi, Borgesi and others are frequently spotted at a recently opened clubhouse at 11th and Jackson Streets and that Borgesi and others have branched out into the construction and home rehab business with an office on Passyunk Avenue.

"It's all legit," said one source familiar with the new business ventures. "They're not doing anything wrong."

The television report said as much, but that hasn't stopped some of the wiseguys, wannabes and sycophants now hanging out at the clubhouse from complaining about media coverage.

"You have to admire their resilience," said one state investigator who, like several others, has been surprised at how quickly and easily the mobsters have fallen back into their old routines, hanging with the same individuals, congregating at a clubhouse to socialize and branching out into the business world.

Both the FBI and investigators with the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office and State Police have been tracking the activities.

David Fritchey, the recently retired head of the Organized Crime Strike Force for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Philadelphia, said the business ventures and associations bear watching and that he is confident law enforcement is doing just that.

"They have a long and successful business model" that involves "violence and intimidation," Fritchey said while dismissing the argument that the one-time convicts have paid their debt to society and ought to be left alone. "If they're not doing anything wrong, then they shouldn't be worried about who's looking at them."

No one is claiming any criminality in the current activities. But Fritchey noted that, "it doesn't bode well for their rehabilitation if they are hanging out with the same people with whom they committed crimes."

That, the ex-prosecutor said, is a formula for "recidivism."

Law enforcement investigators are also aware that back in October there was a mob initiation ceremony in which five associates were formally inducted into the crime family. Traditionally, a making ceremony is overseen by the crime family boss and the initiates are individuals who have sworn a blood oath of allegiance to Cosa Nostra and who have proven that allegiance by having taken part in a murder.

But this is Cosa Nostra 2000 and individuals are often "made" because of their blood relationship to another member or because they are good earners. Money trumps murder in the modern American Mafia, at least in South Philadelphia.

For now, at least, the greed, treachery and violence that once were the hallmarks of the organization are on hold. It has not been lost on law enforcement, however, that the ventures into home rehab, construction and mortgage refinancing are exactly what mob informants Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello and Anthony Aponick testified about at Borgesi's last two racketeering trials.

Both said Borgesi, from prison, was planning a foray into those fields once he was released. Borgesi's first trial ended with his acquittal on all but one charge on which the jury hung. At the second trial he was found not guilty of that as well.

Monacello and Aponick were vilified by the defense camp as "lying rats" who were fabricating information to curry favor with federal prosecutors. While the jury rejected the bulk of their testimony, it appears that at least in terms of what Borgesi's future plans were, they were telling the truth.

Part of the reason for the continued monitoring of the local crime family is the belief in law enforcement circles that several of the mobsters who have returned from prison and are back out on the streets have literally gotten away with murder. None of the murder or attempted murder charges that were part of a 2001 racketeering case against mob boss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, Borgesi and five other defendants were proven, however.

What's more, there are those who believe that the U.S. Attorney's Office in Philadelphia no longer has the mob as a top priority. Terrorism, political corruption and narcotics trafficking are the topics of primary concern. The FBI's organized crime unit, which once boasted nearly a dozen investigators, currently has four or five members.

Still, local, state and federal investigators continue to work on the unsolved murders of Raymond "Long John" Martorano, John "Johnny Gongs" Casasanto and Ron Turchi. The hope in investigative circles is that pressure can be put on someone who knows enough to help make one of those cases.

To date, that hasn't happened. In fact, part of the resilience of the local organization stems from the fact that the most recent mob informants -- like Monacello -- haven proven to be ineffective witnesses. Monacello came across as arrogant and vindictive on the witness stand and what he said was often overshadowed or undermined by his tone and demeanor.

Still, Fritchey said, "there are a lot of people in law enforcement who believe he was telling the truth" when he described the roles Ligambi and Borgesi played in the mob, its penchant for violence and its deceit and treachery.

Among other things, Monacello testified that he, Borgesi and others helped Galati carry out insurance fraud scams in the 1990s by deliberately crashing into and wrecking cars. Galati was convicted and sentenced to 38 months in prison in 1994 in an insurance fraud scam.

Two years ago, the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office announced a new indictment alleging that Galati was back to his old tricks, orchestrating a $5 million insurance fraud scheme through false and trumped up accident and repair costs. What's more, the indictment alleges, Galati hired two hitmen to kill two rival auto body shop owners who had testified before a grand jury that was investigation him.

All of that is part of the case now set for trial in September.

Authorities say Galati came out of prison in the late 1990s and went right back to doing what landed him in jail in the first place. Both law enforcement and underworld sources say there's a lesson there for the mobsters with whom he has had "close personal relationships."

http://www.bigtrial.net/2016/01/wiseguys-and-wannabes-back-in-business.html?m=1
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 05:07 AM

As to who the 5 recently made guys were, names that have been suggested on the forums include Anthony Borgesi, Vito Malgeri, Joseph Baldino Jr, Albert Lancellotti, Philip Ligambi, and Frank DiPasquale.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 05:08 AM

Good article thanks for posting. I have been wondering about Galati's other trial..
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 05:10 AM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
As to who the 5 recently made guys were, names that have been suggested on the forums include Anthony Borgesi, Vito Malgeri, Joseph Baldino Jr, Albert Lancellotti, Philip Ligambi, and Frank DiPasquale.


About Albert Lancellotti and Phil Ligambi, I have seen both on made guy list for like 10 years now. I wasnt sure about Phil but I was like 99% positive Albert was made. And i could of sworn I saw Frank Dipasquale on a couple list too. Isnt he like in his 80's? I could be wrong.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 05:18 AM

I'm pretty surprised Galante didn't flip.
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 06:14 AM

I was always under the impression that Albert Lancelotti was made. Keep in mind that there is a Jr and a Sr though, but thought the younger one was made? same with Phil Ligambi... Thought he was made in 90s or early to mid 2000s. As for Frank DiPasquale, I've been wondering where this came from or if anyone else has any info on him or basis for him being involved? All I know about him is he's Johnny Chang's cousin and they appear to be close. There was an article about him meeting Johnny upon his return from jail in 1995 as well as being a pallbearer in Mikey Chang's funeral. He's a lawyer and was even on Anthony Nicodemo's defense team. Outside of that I haven't heard much of anything else about him especially in terms of him being involved let alone an Associate. If anyone else had any info I am all ears!
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 06:50 AM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
I'm pretty surprised Galante didn't flip.

I don't think he has anything to offer that comes anywhere close to justifying giving him a lighter sentence on two murder charges.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 12:49 PM

I bet he does. The Feds are desperate.

It was attempted murder, I thought.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
I was always under the impression that Albert Lancelotti was made. Keep in mind that there is a Jr and a Sr though, but thought the younger one was made? same with Phil Ligambi... Thought he was made in 90s or early to mid 2000s. As for Frank DiPasquale, I've been wondering where this came from or if anyone else has any info on him or basis for him being involved? All I know about him is he's Johnny Chang's cousin and they appear to be close. There was an article about him meeting Johnny upon his return from jail in 1995 as well as being a pallbearer in Mikey Chang's funeral. He's a lawyer and was even on Anthony Nicodemo's defense team. Outside of that I haven't heard much of anything else about him especially in terms of him being involved let alone an Associate. If anyone else had any info I am all ears!



If jr is not he carrys A lot of weight for an associate
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 05:35 PM

No need for name calling Serp.

It might be a thyroid problem.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 07:07 PM

so the philly mob just recently discovered the real estate business?

black gangs in chicago have been flipping houses
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
so the philly mob just recently discovered the real estate business?

black gangs in chicago have been flipping houses


I admire your relentlessness.
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 09:42 PM

With regards to Joey Pungitore and all this real estate stuff being reported by Fox and Dave, this article from '86 quotes a lot of wire tapped conversations between Joe Punge and his friend/real estate agent/loan shark bookie and is very telling and interesting now that all his real estate activity has come to light (in the news at least)...

http://articles.philly.com/1988-10-21/news/26272982_1_loan-sharking-extortion-and-drug-real-estate
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 09:48 PM

Cool article. I hope, for his sake, he's legit. He seems like a smart guy.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 11:31 PM

look at all the properties the Pungs own right now in philly

http://philly.blockshopper.com/search?f=buyer&q=Joseph%2BPungitore
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/29/16 11:37 PM

He had his father probably in charge of all his shit well he was doing that 20+ yrs the father died not to long ago and seemed healthy where was he during the 90tys? He never came up during stands and Natale era. What's his brother name is he around to. For a family of 30+ guys on the street its good for the intimidation factor almost everyone has a body or more on there back.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/30/16 12:13 AM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
No need for name calling Serp.

It might be a thyroid problem.



Sure hope not !!! Could cause health problems later in life ...
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/30/16 01:49 PM

Legit?!

Where the hell are they getting the money to flip houses like Carmela Soprano?

Did Joey Punge pull $200,000 dollars out of his ass?

That's the crux of the issue that everyone overlooks; where the money comes from. What self-respecting businessman or contractor would do business with these people?

Ok.... couple of thoughts.

Anyone else think Steven Mazzone looked deferential to George Borgesi?

Is it me or does Phil Narducci look exactly like Mike Lancellotti?

Dom Grande looks pretty smug for someone whose father got beaten up by a 70 year old hunchbacked dwarf who he was sent to assassinate.
Posted By: MemphisMafia

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/30/16 02:15 PM

Moe,I like your comment on Grande.I will never figure out how a 73 year old barely foot tall man took 5 shots and then takes the gun away from a 28 yr old.I cant believe Scarfo didnt kill Grande on the spot for that.And to me Joey Punge does not seem to be dwelling over his old buddy Salvie Testa in the phone call there.Business as usual.You here he was so close to Salvie and I believe Leonetti,who is full of shit as they come,says it was so hard on Punge.i dont believe it.I think Punge has zero remorse and is as much the ruthless gangster as any of them.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/30/16 03:35 PM

You guys are regular folks .... You did not grow up being set up in a ally once a week and have to fight your way out !!!
This is life in the intercity back in the day. The tough guys rise to the top and if they have connections they gravitate to the mob....

The others find other ways like use there head and then sometimes you have both and that's what they used to look for ...

These guys are gangsters and come from gangsters and hear this shit in there houses each day growing up , this is how the get so used to killing and then go out to dinner.
It's like anything you do it a few times and it is nothing !!!
You brainwash yourself into believing that they are bad guys and if it's not them it is you .
This is not normal for 99.9% of the population but when u grow up in it it's easy.

Joe P just did not want to pull the trigger, I am sure he ate well that day and had a good nights rest .

Regular people will never get it . This is why you guys are saying what you are cos it is horrible to you , to them it's nothing !!!!!
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 12:19 AM

Couldnt of said it better Serp
Posted By: marine

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 01:34 AM

regular folk yea ok pal... listen you lived near little nicky bak in the day in Ac and you get respected here and know your stuff.. and I kinda respect ya.. But what alley are they fighting their way out of.. please.. most of em hold no hard core construction job or fight anywhere.. the tote guns and folks fear off of a few who carried out major killings.. Grandes father couldn't punch his way out of a wet papper bag with his 33 yr old son punching with him.. Harry Hunch back kicked grande sr. ass.. And nikidahomo looked like a Marine sniper there on the dipetro hit.. And yea after I faced booked half their names I said you got to b kidding me.. they almost all hold regular jobs.. They were never in the military, they cant run fire n maneuver and can Not fight.. an most likely suck at their regular jobs because theier fat lazy and steal shit..
Posted By: marine

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 01:44 AM

You called it my man how many people did they steal from and how much drugs they sell to buy extra houses cheap an re fix them.. all though it is a nice approach if their putting a few people to work while fixing houses.. And yes grande n baldino and a few of those young guys think their actually tough people lookin to intimidate people where ever they go..
Posted By: marine

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 02:07 AM

Yea I hear ya Moe, knitting sweaters for mom.. How about getting a F$%&#ng job instead of trying to scam someone or intimidate you local deli or restaurant owners.. AND mightyhealthy what glory days you talkin about pal.. When they were 20-40's most of them were getting f#$%ED in the a$$ and taking mouth fulls from their celly..! And hey petro 15-20 guys coming in an out all day.. I personally have my own idea petro, you tell me ok? I think their doing what they do best.. they spent so much time in prison most of you talk n bragg about.. So I think their re filling their cum dumpsters with human jizz.. that is just what I think.. then their filming their gat porn and selling it for mob money honey.. MMM MMM good.. From the young turks to the YUM YUM boys..
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: marine
regular folk yea ok pal... listen you lived near little nicky bak in the day in Ac and you get respected here and know your stuff.. and I kinda respect ya.. But what alley are they fighting their way out of.. please.. most of em hold no hard core construction job or fight anywhere.. the tote guns and folks fear off of a few who carried out major killings.. Grandes father couldn't punch his way out of a wet papper bag with his 33 yr old son punching with him.. Harry Hunch back kicked grande sr. ass.. And nikidahomo looked like a Marine sniper there on the dipetro hit.. And yea after I faced booked half their names I said you got to b kidding me.. they almost all hold regular jobs.. They were never in the military, they cant run fire n maneuver and can Not fight.. an most likely suck at their regular jobs because theier fat lazy and steal shit..



you have got what he is saying wrong very wrong. He is talking about how these guys feel about killing people not there ability to kill. He is saying how most normal people would never understand that.

Serp grew up around these guys so he knows why they able to kill there best friends. He was saying that these guys tell themselves they are doing nothing wrong he is talking about there morales



what he meant by saying fighting out of alley he meant the dangers that are involved in that life alot of those guys especially the guys in the 80s were getting killed it was a very dangerous time to be a mobtser you compare any of todays guys to those guys. These guys shoot you in the back of the head when your not expecting it they do not need to be physically tough. Y


You bring up grande fucking up the riccobone hit well true that one was embarrassing but you have to remember these guys are gangsters not soldiers they dont need to run and fight because you dont need those traits to be a mobster like i said before your best friend shoots you when your not expecting if you dont understand that you dont understand how the mob works


and for the record faffy was a soldier before he became a mobster not that ever used any of his military skills in the mob they were not needed
Posted By: marine

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 02:23 AM

your right everyone says he is a thief broke into the pungatorie house years ago and was arrested on the casino front steps trying to rob someone I believe wit knife.. The casino had it listed under the people who can not enter.. He has two daughters I know for 100% one daughter goes to Villanova. the second one might also.. ligambi sent one of his kids there also... it is a 45,000$$ a year school.. And both merlino girls drive very nice vehicle a Porsche chynne and the other an extremely expensive ride also.. Where does this money come from..??
Posted By: JC

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 02:37 AM

I think that you meant their morals, even though I guy named Morales might have been involved at one time or another LOL.
Posted By: marine

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 02:40 AM

Yea I got you are right in some ways.. these guys today are puppies compared to 20-30 yr ago.. and thank you for correcting me on faffy.. and it would b cool to know how many of these guys were military.. I know lagambi was airforce.. And yes it does take some military skill to sneak up on stalk or kill people sometimes.. But yes most of the time they kill its done with trickery..
Posted By: JC

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 03:20 AM

Originally Posted By: marine
your right everyone says he is a thief broke into the pungatorie house years ago and was arrested on the casino front steps trying to rob someone I believe wit knife.. The casino had it listed under the people who can not enter.. He has two daughters I know for 100% one daughter goes to Villanova. the second one might also.. ligambi sent one of his kids there also... it is a 45,000$$ a year school.. And both merlino girls drive very nice vehicle a Porsche chynne and the other an extremely expensive ride also.. Where does this money come from..??


Yes, but every mobster ever has been a scumbag to some degree, Angelo Bruno was a scumbag, Carlo Gambino was a scumbag, Sam Giancanca was a scumbag, the Rizzutos were scumbags, etc. Some to different degrees than others, but no mobster is a good person at heart. They are all opportunists, some more violent and physically cable than others, but all willing to use violence if necessary to get what they want. Some guys are just better at hiding their inner nature than others. Merlino is pint sized, and I don't care how much time he did, I doubt that he ever intimidated anyone with his fists. He may seem like he is on top of the world, but you have to remember that everyone in the underworld knows that his wife was running around banging guys in Philly and NY when he was in the can. As for his kids, I don't think that any amount of money could make it worth knowing that your dad is a common thief and your mom was/is a whore. Things in the underworld change quickly, around 2000 no one would have ever guessed that things would have turned south so fast for the Rizzutos. I am not saying that that is going to happen to Merlino and his cronies, but the last chapter has most likely yet to be written.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 07:18 AM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
No need for name calling Serp.

It might be a thyroid problem.
lol
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 07:31 AM

Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
With regards to Joey Pungitore and all this real estate stuff being reported by Fox and Dave, this article from '86 quotes a lot of wire tapped conversations between Joe Punge and his friend/real estate agent/loan shark bookie and is very telling and interesting now that all his real estate activity has come to light (in the news at least)...

http://articles.philly.com/1988-10-21/news/26272982_1_loan-sharking-extortion-and-drug-real-estate

I thought i've seen all the old articles, not this one, ..very nice,thanx..
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 06:16 PM

So pung had a 30 yr head start in front. The old underboss from Boston jerry a. Ran all types of real estate shit from his federal cells for the 20+ yrs he was in there to. Million dollar building all over Boston. There's a article how the father pung was in real estate all them years probably why he was nowhere to be found during stanfa days or Natale's.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden


Anyone else think Steven Mazzone looked deferential to George Borgesi?



Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Let George have his spotlight, makes him an easier target. History has proven his an idiot, he won't be on the streets long.
Posted By: British

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 10:19 PM

Thought Ligambi had retired?
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 10:24 PM

I've heard for several years that al lance jr has his button. He lives somewhere in south jersey but don't know who's crew he's in or whatever but I would put money on it that he's made.. As for merlinos daughters the older one does go to Villanova. The younger one is still in high school . And yes they both drive very nice cars for their age. Older drives a Porsche Cayenne and the other drives a Mercedes .. Been saying it forever people saying Philly isn't making any money but obviously merlino isn't hurting for money . He's getting his piece of the pie that's for damn sure .
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 10:39 PM

I have no doubt the kid is made .

Skinny and his blood family are living very good . The property's he lives in and the cars they drive and his traveling is of a man that is easy making close if not a million a year .

I am not counting the restaurant and or the two or more homes they are living in and let's not forget he has a place here all summer .

Someone go out and try to live like he is and tell me it's not costing a mil a year . This is not counting security they do not travel or lodge for free they also need vehicles food and clothes . He is doing well and IRS has not came knocking yet .

The guys at the top are doing good but I have not seen any made guys doing good or great other then the ones the had it befor or are in the top ten in the family .

If we start seeing the bottom made guys living large then you know what mayo face is saying may be true.
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 10:51 PM

Fully agree serp. He is made for sure and people always argue with me and say he is not.. He's around all the top guys all the time and his uncle is Mikey lance..

Yes merlino and his family are living very very well.. As for the cars he is driving I know they're obviously rented probably or maybe leased but I've seen him in ferraris, rolls Royce and even a fucking buggati veyron..

Who's crew is Dom grande in? I see him constantly in pics and stuff hanging with Steve Mazzone constantly.. I know he is related to the mazzones so maybe that's why he is always around Stevie .. But I dunno . As a soldier Dom seems to be doing pretty ok money wise also. I don't know specifics but from what I've seen he's not barely earning or getting scraps.. He seems especially as of lately that he has got more involved in rackets and taken on a bigger role...
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 10:56 PM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
Fully agree serp. He is made for sure and people always argue with me and say he is not.. He's around all the top guys all the time and his uncle is Mikey lance..

Yes merlino and his family are living very very well.. As for the cars he is driving I know they're obviously rented probably or maybe leased but I've seen him in ferraris, rolls Royce and even a fucking buggati veyron..

Who's crew is Dom grande in? I see him constantly in pics and stuff hanging with Steve Mazzone constantly.. I know he is related to the mazzones so maybe that's why he is always around Stevie .. But I dunno . As a soldier Dom seems to be doing pretty ok money wise also. I don't know specifics but from what I've seen he's not barely earning or getting scraps.. He seems especially as of lately that he has got more involved in rackets and taken on a bigger role...


Grande was already into the real estate for a while being partners with Nicodemo

Probably manages Nicodemos shares of real estate now that he is locked up
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
I've heard for several years that al lance jr has his button. He lives somewhere in south jersey but don't know who's crew he's in or whatever but I would put money on it that he's made.. As for merlinos daughters the older one does go to Villanova. The younger one is still in high school . And yes they both drive very nice cars for their age. Older drives a Porsche Cayenne and the other drives a Mercedes .. Been saying it forever people saying Philly isn't making any money but obviously merlino isn't hurting for money . He's getting his piece of the pie that's for damn sure .


Al Lancellotti Jr is known as "Al Cat" and is VERY close to Merlino since the 1990s. He actually lives in Delaware, not South Jersey
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: British
Thought Ligambi had retired?


Thought you were retarded?





Oh wait, you are.

BING! POW! BOOM! *BADUMTISH*

Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 11:38 PM

Yeah Dante I've heard about the Delaware shit but honestly I just thought he was visiting there or on vacation or some shit. I thought it was too random that he actually lived in Delaware .. That's kind of far away from the action? No? That's the only reason why I figured he was still put in south jersey.. Yeah al cat for a younger guy seems to be very well like by merlino and everyone... You think he's got anything going on in Delaware or just a nice suburban place for his family and kid to live?
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 11:42 PM

Delaware is a really quick drive on I95 to South Philly, hes probably a commuting gangster to South Philly. Borgesi lives out in King of Prussia now and commutes into South Philly daily.

Here in the Northeast, most people commute 30 minutes to an hour and a half to their jobs due to how expensive it is to live here, if you want a decent place for your kids you have to move out were the housing is more affordable and the schools are better. It sucks, but is reality....
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 11:42 PM

Grande is with Mikey Lance.
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/31/16 11:59 PM

Yeah honestly I can't blame them i would move out of south philly too and just commute .. Way Better.. Also does anyone know the deal with Nicky volpe? He was involved in a few coke busts and supposedly was really close with merlino .. I don't know if he's a player or associated still but he runs a construction company and seems like he's making good money he drives a fucking lambo.. Just haven't heard him mentioned at all besides back in the day them saying he was really close with merlino
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 12:00 AM

Weird grande is with Mikey lance but you honestly never see him with him.. That's why I was wondering what crew he was in cause he's always with Mazzone
Posted By: sophilly

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 12:15 AM

wasnt Al an actual Real Estate Agent as well? or am i thinking of someone else?

yeah weird about Delaware, but true only like 20 mins to Wilmington from here, south philly guy in Delaware would stick out like a sore thumb haahaa
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: sophilly
wasnt Al an actual Real Estate Agent as well? or am i thinking of someone else?

yeah weird about Delaware, but true only like 20 mins to Wilmington from here, south philly guy in Delaware would stick out like a sore thumb haahaa
Michael Angelina is a real estate agent
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 02:32 AM

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Posted By: phillyguy39

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 03:00 AM

a couple pics for you. This is the state of the philly LCN. Johnny Chang with this GOOD friend Virgil Mariutti. When guys are hanging around with people who testify nothing at all could ever shock you!!! WTF


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...amp;oe=57233C84

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...amp;oe=5730AD1B
Posted By: British

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 07:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: British
Thought Ligambi had retired?


Thought you were retarded?





Oh wait, you are.

BING! POW! BOOM! *BADUMTISH*



The only retard is you, now go and troll elsewhere instead of trying to spoil a decent thread..
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 07:32 AM

Careful British, Moe might just do that, then he would ruin my knitting techniques group board.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 07:49 AM

But NY respects Ligambi right? And traditionally, THEY picked the Philly boss...
How would Ligambi having the backing of NY affect the power landscape? Maybe that, plus Merlino being Florida based now, explains the " former boss" thing...
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 07:51 AM

Maybe all he does is run his restaurant? Does he have a big crew down there? Also, it being a Philly news special, they probably don't have the resources to follow him around Florida...
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 07:55 AM

@ Sinatra @ Ivey
See, this is what I meant about the double standard thing. We watched the news, the philly police say it's four factions, and some guys are saying no. I can't help but notice, that the only reason one would argue this, is if they think Merlino is the undisputed boss' and this contradicts that... That irks me a little...
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 08:06 AM

@ Sinatra
On the question of Ligambi denying the Merlino guys, to me it shows
1. Ligambi started out working for Joey, but once he got NYs respect, he likely Went up a notch....
2. Ligambi could have been smart enough to realize making these guys would have basically marginalized his own power.
Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 08:13 AM

Merlino and Ligambi are in the same crew. Narducci is the only one that is pretty much on the outs with the Philly Administration. I said that Narducci's nephew was made, and I thought it was his brother Windows son, but it turned out to be his sisters son Joe jr. Al Lancellotti jr, has to be made, if not then he has a lot of pull for being an associate, but he is close to Merlino which should tell you something.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 12:17 PM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
Weird grande is with Mikey lance but you honestly never see him with him.. That's why I was wondering what crew he was in cause he's always with Mazzone


handsome stevie has ppsted several pictures of them together (Grande & Lance) Most of the pics were Grande with Al lance not long back, Isn't Grande related to Mazzone? That's probably why
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Merlino and Ligambi are in the same crew. Narducci is the only one that is pretty much on the outs with the Philly Administration. I said that Narducci's nephew was made, and I thought it was his brother Windows son, but it turned out to be his sisters son Joe jr. Al Lancellotti jr, has to be made, if not then he has a lot of pull for being an associate, but he is close to Merlino which should tell you something.


I don't believe this to be the case, I've stated my reasons why numerous times, so I won't go into it again. Again, I highly doubt Shratenweiser, or "mayo face" as you guys like to call him, pulled all of this information out of his ass.

And another thing is how people are looking at the word "crew". Merlino has his, which consists of Mazzone, his brother, and guys who came up with them, playing on street corners. Ligambi, I think is still the boss, and simply has George Borgesi and a few others as his link to the Merlino guys and the others (Pung & Narducci). He shows up at annual parties and functions, but other than that, you don't really hear much or see Ligambi out with Mazzone or Merlino all that much these days. When guys were going down to meet Joey in Florida, Ligambi was never mentioned as being one of them. When Joey was coming to Philly for the funeral of his father and New Years, not this past, but the one last year, we didn't hear much about Ligambi being around then either. I personally believe Ligambi is more behind the scenes, not to be some Darth Sidious like mob boss pulling all the strings, but because he prefers it that way. He doesn't need a big crew, but I think he is still separate from the Merlino/Mazzone camp and uses his nephew to facilitate his judgements.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 05:18 PM

One thing people forget to mention is the fact that Ligambi seems to have strong connections in North Jersey and New York. He is liked across the board. He may very well be the boss in Philly. We'll see.
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 05:49 PM

Ya grande and Mazzone are related
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 06:41 PM

Wasn't Ligambi in jail at the time of Joey's father's funeral?
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
Wasn't Ligambi in jail at the time of Joey's father's funeral?

Yes.
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 08:41 PM

Also remember what Scott said in his last report:

"Per sources, Ligambi was asked by Joey Merlino to come out of a self-imposed semi-retirement around the time his nephew, former consigliere George (Georgie Boy) Borgesi, got off parole in July, in an attempt by Skinny Joey to “maintenance” Borgesi, finally out of prison for the first time since 2000 last year and eager to “reestablish himself in the mob and settle old scores,” – first and foremost related to an intense beef with childhood pal and co-defendant Marty Angelina."

We've seen recent photos and video of Ligambi/Merlino, Ligambi/Borgesi, Mazzone/Borgesi together so I if they had any beef, they seem to be working it out. Aside from Narducci, the only other big dispute seems to be Borgesi being on the outs with Angelina and Merlino.

This is all speculation of course, but it's the most logical estimation IMHO.
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 08:48 PM

Yeah I was gonna say Sinatra, Uncle Joe was in prison and/or on trial at the time of Chuckie Merlino's funeral and much of the time Joey had people visiting him in Florida. Plus Joey couldn't have him visiting him until recently when he got off his parole violations as a meeting between the two would've been a violation for Joey. It wasn't until recently that Joey was able to meet with Uncle Joe.

Also, without going into a great amount of detail, I find it interesting that people are so skeptical about Uncle Joe and Joey Merlino being one in the same "faction" or "crew". Borgesi said in prison that his Uncle (Ligambi) was simply warming the seat for them while they're away and he would have to step aside when they returned. With Joey being away in Florida and still needing a type of street boss, it makes sense that they would continue to utilize Uncle Joe for the simple sake of seamless continuity. However, he is still reporting to, loyal to, kicking up to, and in the same faction as Joey. I wouldn't by any means put the two men in two separate factions or categories...
Posted By: phillyguy39

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 09:11 PM

What's the story with this Johnny Chang? He has to be a real mutt to be hanging out with this Virgil character and this Baldino kid. His father was in jail for 35 years and he goes and hangs out with FBI rats? Something is definitely wrong with this picture. Than get stepped to in the diner he should think about another line of work. Seems like these guys are trying to fill the gaps now. But the caliber of men are not around. No rules are left at all.
Posted By: Itiswhatitis

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 09:24 PM

I believe Kathy's more feared.........
Posted By: sophilly

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/01/16 09:25 PM

I agree with the Virgil thing, fuckin crazy...
but whats the issue with Baldino?? have not heard anything negative?
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: sophilly
I agree with the Virgil thing, fuckin crazy...
but whats the issue with Baldino?? have not heard anything negative?


He got stabbed or beat up like a month ago at some club, then the leader of the 10th and O (forget his name) came up to him at a diner with Johnny Chang within earshot, and told him he better not run his mouth, and said the same to the friend in the booth with him.

This was reported on RD by a Philly guy.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 02:59 PM

Johnny Garbarino aka Garbs was the guy I was thinking of
Posted By: irishkaos

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 04:57 PM

Does Johnny Chang still run the lottery/newspaper stand outside the Chickie and Petes, the one Mayoface crept up on him at in the Mob Talk piece? Who leads 10th and O these days?
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: sophilly
I agree with the Virgil thing, fuckin crazy...
but whats the issue with Baldino?? have not heard anything negative?


He got stabbed or beat up like a month ago at some club, then the leader of the 10th and O (forget his name) came up to him at a diner with Johnny Chang within earshot, and told him he better not run his mouth, and said the same to the friend in the booth with him.

This was reported on RD by a Philly guy.


Well, then, it MUST be true!
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: sophilly
I agree with the Virgil thing, fuckin crazy...
but whats the issue with Baldino?? have not heard anything negative?


He got stabbed or beat up like a month ago at some club, then the leader of the 10th and O (forget his name) came up to him at a diner with Johnny Chang within earshot, and told him he better not run his mouth, and said the same to the friend in the booth with him.

This was reported on RD by a Philly guy.


Well, then, it MUST be true!


ummm im reporting where I got it from in case he asks, or are you not intelligent enough to add 2 and 2?

Not everything comes from the papers, keyboard warrior.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 06:28 PM

So many lames on here im about to stop posting here. What a circus act.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 07:57 PM

Take it easy.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 07:57 PM

Keyboard warrior... Lol
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Take it easy.


I mean I was just providing some info that I had to a question that was asked and had to get a smartass comment
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Keyboard warrior... Lol


lol
Posted By: phillyguy39

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 08:57 PM

From what i heard tid Baldino kid robbed both of his uncles and than got all his friends to come in court and testify against them. The uncles can't stand him or his mother who is also their sister. But it seems like nobody likes this Baldino kid. He's a steroid user and percocets. The whole city has him down as a rat. They say his father also cooperated too. This is 100% fact. So whoever is saying this guy is LCN does not have a clue. LCN guys have him as a rat too.
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: phillyguy39
He's a steroid user
You say this like it's a bad thing.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Take it easy.


I mean I was just providing some info that I had to a question that was asked and had to get a smartass comment



All good, I was just busting your balls.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/02/16 10:48 PM

news — Real Time
South Philly mobsters 'Uncle Joe', 'The Gentle Don' to hit big screen
Updated: February 2, 2016 — 5:00 AM EST

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by Tommy Rowan, Staff Writer. @tommyrowan

With real-life South Philly characters "Uncle Joe" Ligambi, "Skinny Joey" Merlino and Angelo "The Gentle Don" Bruno peppering Tigre Hill's new documentary on organized crime, it's bound to be a hit.

Last week the "Shame of a City" and "Barrel of a Gun" director released the trailer for his latest film, "The Corrupt and The Dead."

Hill described the forthcoming documentary as focusing on the detrimental effect of organized crime on society, as well as its impact on the economies of its host cities. The film covers the mob's influence in cities across the country, but takes heavily from the mob's impact on Hill's native city of Philadelphia.

"Philly was so unique," Hill said, "even the mafia was saying, 'What the (expletive) is going on in Philly?'"

The film bookends with Philly elite, beginning with Salvatore Sabella, who Hill claims is the first known Sicilian Mafia boss in Philly, and it concludes with Merlino's fall.

"A lot of old mobsters have no respect for Merlino," Hill said, "Not that they're worthy of respect."

The filmaker - known for tackling such controversial issues such as the 2003 mayor's race and the 1981 murder of Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner by Mumia Abu-Jamal - said the project will be finished in May.

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Published: February 2, 2016 — 5:00 AM EST

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-...LbtdiWKbTq6y.99



http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=%2Fphilly%2Fblogs%2Freal-time&id=365995511

goto link to watch Trailer
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/03/16 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Take it easy.


I mean I was just providing some info that I had to a question that was asked and had to get a smartass comment



All good, I was just busting your balls.


cool no hard feelings here
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/03/16 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: flamingokid123
Originally Posted By: phillyguy39
He's a steroid user
You say this like it's a bad thing.



In large circles of the US population, it is. That's not to say it is, and that steroids is bad and that it doesn't have it's use when put to certain things, like injuries, or that it doesn't have a fanbase. But many people still look at steroids as taboo, and something of a drug. And in some mob circles, it's been known that some mob guys weren't fans of steroid users.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/03/16 11:29 PM

Uncle Joe Ligambi's Casino Exclusion Article from begining of his tenure on top
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/03/16 11:32 PM

old Turchi article from 1997
Posted By: Crash

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/04/16 03:39 AM

Whats wrong with steroids, ive been using them on and off for 20 years.
I agree they shouldnt be used in pro sports but damn, they work.
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/04/16 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Crash
Whats wrong with steroids, ive been using them on and off for 20 years.
I agree they shouldnt be used in pro sports but damn, they work.
agreed. I am in my early 40's. Been using about 6 yrs now.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/04/16 06:39 PM

Is it true that steroids make your penis smaller?
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/04/16 06:43 PM

Thread getting... derailed...
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 02:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Is it true that steroids make your penis smaller?
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Is it true that steroids make your penis smaller?
actually your testicles shrink. But everybody is different.
But back too the mob talk. A very close friend of mine should me a pic of Wags and Anthony Nicodemo in prison. Wags visited him several weeks ago. And Anthony Nicodemo actually looks very good. And Nicodemo was in a button dress shirt. I thought that was odd. And another thing I heard the Chang's are on Vacation in south Fl. And Mrs. Chang is posting alot of pics. But none has mr.chang in them. Heard he has become very camera shy on the trip.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 04:47 AM

My boy told me about Fox news video so we watched about 2 weeks ago and I've been meaning to see what the internet has to say cause i haven't had the time to read or post.I only find out about new club house, which I think is dumb, only 2 weeks before this video but the one thing I wanted to mention and that I've said before on here and me and my boy said right away. These guys and their friends who aren't made have been into real estate for a long time. Nicodemo especially. But Dom grNde n old friends from 10th street have properties together. It's not just a mob thing either. But these guys will share resources. Who,has a guy with hot wood floors. Who has a guy who,will hook up puting a new kitchen in n so on. They also have guys who have insurance type fraud deals to get money. Nicodemo had a hook up like that where they file a clai and so on. Typing on phone so gonna end this. Not trying to post to say i Said this a while ago but some people who only read what's online like to tell you your wrong but im sure i have old posts talking about real estate. Anyway and quickly...who thought the club house was a good idea. I know they are still there but not as much since video...more wannabes who know someone now to get in. I could have went in with a guy who owed a guy,not made, but half Brother is made money. They prob didn't even want my boy in there lol but I told my "friend" i,was not,going in. I also wonder how quickly the gnu watch a place like that n from where except a apartments around the ways. Do the fbi rent using a civilian? Kinda like mob. Cause they can't get much on street besides shit like Fox gets
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 05:01 AM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
Weird grande is with Mikey lance but you honestly never see him with him.. That's why I was wondering what crew he was in cause he's always with Mazzone


Just reading some comments...only recent. But they are tigether, so,see them,around 12 and Ritner walking n talking last summer a lot.

I didnt know cuz al moved to DE. But haven't seen him in city. Dom GrAnde started to see him round so lance like 5 to 10 years ago and not as many 10 streeters lime,he grew up with. From what i understand...Dom never really wanted to be a made guy. I think one day someone rats him out on dipietro murder,n,hes nervous bout that. Dipietro was killed more,cause of the money he owed on the street...close to 400k dating back a long way. It's never been clear to me if they knew he was a rat or,hit him based on money.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 05:14 AM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
Ya grande and Mazzone are related


Isn't grandes mom remarried to someone related or close to mazzone? I,don't think they are blood. Mazzone doesn't have family going back...dom does! From his rat father to his Uncle to his grandfsther coo coo and also the piccolos. I think,he felt obligated when they were pushing him into being made. Supposedly he's doing well money wise.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 05:16 AM

One last thing...Virgil marriutti and his family are pretty decent people. He goes way back with a lot of those guys. Sorry,for any repeats but i couldnt read all 7 pages didnt have time so only read last 2
Posted By: dave213

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 07:04 AM

Is anyone familiar with this guy? He claims to have lived in South Philly and has sources as to what's currently going on over there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3_YRcI65Qs

10:25 Claims Borgesi went to Merlino after he got out to have Angelina killed.
21:16 Claims the Gambinos recently had a meeting with them in Philly.

Originally Posted By: spmob
Isn't grandes mom remarried to someone related or close to mazzone?


I believe it's Grande's Aunt who's married to Anthony Mazzone, but I could be wrong.
Posted By: CabriniGreen

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 08:23 AM

Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?
Posted By: dave213

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/09/16 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?


He just says members of the Philly family, but Merlino wasn't there. Listen to it at the time stamp I posted.
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/11/16 12:53 AM

Charlie White was in Jersey(Wash.Twp.) this past weekend for a viewing. A friend mine saw him there. I asked how did he looked. All I got back was, very old.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/11/16 06:18 AM

Originally Posted By: dave213
Is anyone familiar with this guy? He claims to have lived in South Philly and has sources as to what's currently going on over there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3_YRcI65Qs

10:25 Claims Borgesi went to Merlino after he got out to have Angelina killed.
21:16 Claims the Gambinos recently had a meeting with them in Philly.

Originally Posted By: spmob
Isn't grandes mom remarried to someone related or close to mazzone?


I believe it's Grande's Aunt who's married to Anthony Mazzone, but I could be wrong.
I dont know.. sounds like he knows his shit but on the other hand ,he could b a spoke 4 a book publisher..talks up alite's novel,which now i'm ready 2 get..(anybody's opinion??)..should I purchase this book or what??? gettin' back 2 the ?..who is this guy anyways,,?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/14/16 03:22 AM

I don't know he is talking up like there are four families in Philly .
I don't think that they have four crews of made guys for Christ sake.

Most likely he is right about Skinny being boss and uncle Joe and Sonny doing the talking to the rest .

Skinny just can not stay in Florida he was around here all week he was even right up the street from Scarfo's old street.
Skinny is seeing a couple of guys that there fathers were bad asses back in the day . The one is "Jonny Boy" and the other makes a lot of money down here and has had most of the book around here since Nick's days and many others.

So Skinny is here or in Philly almost weekly if not every other .
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/14/16 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
I don't know he is talking up like there are four families in Philly .
I don't think that they have four crews of made guys for Christ sake.

Most likely he is right about Skinny being boss and uncle Joe and Sonny doing the talking to the rest .

Skinny just can not stay in Florida he was around here all week he was even right up the street from Scarfo's old street.
Skinny is seeing a couple of guys that there fathers were bad asses back in the day . The one is "Jonny Boy" and the other makes a lot of money down here and has had most of the book around here since Nick's days and many others.

So Skinny is here or in Philly almost weekly if not every other .


Serp, is that the Johnny Boy from Ventnor in which Skinny is his Godfather?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/15/16 12:43 AM

Dante: if it is he is no longer in Ventnor he is back in AC but I not going there .

I guessing you have been at the DuckTown Tavern often lately????
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/15/16 03:55 PM

Yes, I was just there recently for the AC Boat Show with my buddies. Love the AC Boat Show, it gives me motivation to work for that $$$
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?


Probably the same group of people that were caught on tape with Stefanelli

If that is true they have met multiple times, they must have some joint real estate rackets or something else going on

It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


Because the Genovese are smart. Why babysit bums? The Genovese play a much deeper game and avoid people who bring attention to them. These guys have associates who make Joey Merlino look like Henry Hill's driver.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
These guys have associates who make Joey Merlino look like Henry Hill's driver.


lol
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 04:16 PM

lol wow

sad but true
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 04:17 PM

Genovese couldnt lure Joey to kill him though

shhh
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Genovese couldnt lure Joey to kill him though

shhh



And the guys walking around a boss and free. Maybe that says something, maybe it doesn't...
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?


[b]Probably the same group of people that were caught on tape with Stefanelli

If that is true they have met multiple times, they must have some joint real estate rackets or something else going on

It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


i am not sure i think that meeting was really about the philly mob asking for help because the lucheses were moving in on terriorty and they also discussed the decavancte family

Then again the whole gambino administration was there look at this old gangland article[/b]

Gambino capo Alphonse Trucchio will soon be hit with as many as 10 years behind bars for drug dealing. He’ll have a lot of time to reflect on the good old days, and to think even harder about those who helped put an end to them.

One moment will be easy to remember, providing the Bureau of Prisons allows him to bring this picture with him into stir. As you can see, it’s from 2009 when Trucchio – a second generation wiseguy – threw a Christmas party for his crew.

That’s Trucchio, five big guys from the left, in the gray suit with his left hand on the shoulder of the smiling mob associate crouching beside the cocktail table filled with what look like choice beverages. The guy on the far left of the snowflake-laden card, the one still waiting for the holiday spirit to strike, is Trucchio’s right-hand-man, soldier Michael (Roc) Roccaforte.

Trucchio had good reason to smile. The young mobster had recently been promoted to capo. This made him the head of the Queens-based moneymaking crew once led by his imprisoned-for-life father, Ronald, a contemporary of late mafia boss John Gotti.

But the widest grin seems to be on the shortest man in the group. He’s standing two over from Roccaforte, the only one toasting the occasion with a drink in his hand. That’s mob associate Howard Santos and he’s got a secret reason to smile: He was wearing a wire for the FBI that day. The secrets he recorded helped launch the Mafia Takedown Day arrest of Trucchio, Roccaforte and 19 others on racketeering and drug trafficking charges.

Another moment for the capo to remember came a few months later, when Trucchio took part in a rare mob summit meeting with the boss of the Philadelphia crime family.

The May 2010 sitdown, Gang Land has learned, took place in an undisclosed New Jersey restaurant. The meeting between leaders of the two crime families included wiseguy John Gambino, a key member of a ruling panel that was running the Gambino family at the time, according to recently filed court papers.

Roccaforte, whose own plea deal calls for the same 121 months maximum as Trucchio, also attended the conference.

At the session, Philly mob boss Joseph (Uncle Joe) Ligambi and his top aides sought help in resolving ongoing issues they had with the Luchese family and with the so-called real Sopranos, the Newark based DeCavalcante clan that has been viewed as subservient to the Gambinos since the heyday of the late Dapper Don.

The reason we can report this is because the conversation was taped by another turncoat wiseguy, Nicholas (Nicky Skins) Stefanelli, the Gambino soldier who began cooperating with the FBI when he and his son were nabbed for drug dealing. Stefanelli’s stint as an informant ended with a bang, as Gang Land reported three months ago: Just days before the feds were to end the undercover aspect of his work and prepare him to testify against mobsters and associates from eight Mafia families in six states, Nicky Skins shot and killed the informer who gave him up to the FBI, and then committed suicide.

But his tapes live on, and the one he recorded on May 19, 2010 should become a Gang Land classic. On it, Gambino, an aging Sicilian-born cousin of family patriarch Carlo Gambino, and Philadelphia capo Joseph (Scoops) Licata, and the then-33-year-old Trucchio are heard commiserating about the inroads the feds have made against them in recent years, and some of the things they should do to avoid their own returns to the big house.

“We still got to stay with the old rules,” said Licata, 70. “If you don’t know the families, the grandmothers, the grandfathers, forget it….If you don’t know them a lifetime, or somebody good recommends, there ain’t nothing you can do.”

The 71-year-old Gambino agreed, and stressed the need to be very careful about who gets inducted into the family. “The only way to survive: You need quality, not quantity,” he said.

“Guys made it about money,” chimed in Philly wiseguy Louis (Big Lou) Fazzini, 45. “It’s not about money, it’s about brotherhood,” he said.

“Money clouds people’s judgment,” agreed Trucchio, who allegedly made millions of dollars heading up drug dealing scams over the past decade and has agreed to forfeit $100,000 as part of his plea deal. “That’s what gets people locked up,” he added.

“The green-eyed monster,” noted Licata, according to the papers filed last week by Philadelphia prosecutors in a successful effort to detain the two mobsters as dangers to the community.

“During the meeting,” prosecutors wrote in recently filed court papers, “Licata bragged that he was incarcerated with a former boss of the Gambino family and predicted to members of the Luchese and Genovese families that he would become a rat,” an apparent reference to John (Junior) Gotti. Licata and the former acting Gambino boss, who stymied four federal juries by admitting his wiseguy status but insisting that he had quit the mob, were inmates at Ray Brook federal prison in upstate New York from 1999 to 2003.

Licata also wondered aloud about the fate of John Gambino and the other members of the three-capo panel that was running the family when “the old leaders,” namely Joseph (Jo Jo) Corozzo, his brother Nicholas (Little Nick) Corozzo and Little Nick’s longtime partner-in-crime, Leonard DiMaria were “released from prison.”

No reply by the Gambino contingent is noted in the court papers, but Licata was probably saying nice things about the Corozzos and DiMaria because he knew that Nicky Skins, a Newark resident, was proposed for membership by them and was in a crew that was then headed by an acting capo handpicked by the Corozzo contingent.

If they’re smart, all three should thank the mob gods they were in prison while Nicky Skins was wearing his wire, and look to retire. Nick will be 80 when he gets out in 2020. Jo Jo, 70, is unlikely to get out for another five years, assuming he agrees to a plea deal to his still pending racketeering case. Lenny, 71, just got out and has three years of supervised release ahead.

Sources say Gambino capo Daniel Marino was slated to attend the confab, but couldn’t when he was hit with racketeering and murder charges a month earlier and detained without bail. Like the Corozzo group, Marino, 71, should be looking to get a retirement package when he is released in 2014.

Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/16/16 07:11 PM

Yeah I remember that article. They were meeting with some pretty heavy hitters from the Gambinos
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/18/16 09:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
I don't know he is talking up like there are four families in Philly .
I don't think that they have four crews of made guys for Christ sake.

Most likely he is right about Skinny being boss and uncle Joe and Sonny doing the talking to the rest .

Skinny just can not stay in Florida he was around here all week he was even right up the street from Scarfo's old street.
Skinny is seeing a couple of guys that there fathers were bad asses back in the day . The one is "Jonny Boy" and the other makes a lot of money down here and has had most of the book around here since Nick's days and many others.

So Skinny is here or in Philly almost weekly if not every other .




if they have four factions then they have four crews

things are probably haywire because the older guys don't respect merlino
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/18/16 12:06 PM

I hear things that I can not put a link up cos there is not one to put up but !

From what I am hearing a few skippers have a crew of associates and a few have a crew of made guys and associates .

Guess it's working for them I would not want just associates knowing my business Cos you have to trust someone and if you don't have made guys what are you going to do .

But no one is talking like back in the day cos it's all speculation at this point and that's a good thing for them!!!!

You have a shit load of Feds and reporters guessing makes them look bad when they don't get it right .
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/18/16 01:50 PM

I guess i can understand why most of the other philly guys who were released want to jump back into the mix( if they did). But Merlino ? Is being a celebrity really that important !
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/19/16 12:09 AM

Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?


[b]Probably the same group of people that were caught on tape with Stefanelli

If that is true they have met multiple times, they must have some joint real estate rackets or something else going on

It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


i am not sure i think that meeting was really about the philly mob asking for help because the lucheses were moving in on terriorty and they also discussed the decavancte family

Then again the whole gambino administration was there look at this old gangland article[/b]

Gambino capo Alphonse Trucchio will soon be hit with as many as 10 years behind bars for drug dealing. He’ll have a lot of time to reflect on the good old days, and to think even harder about those who helped put an end to them.

One moment will be easy to remember, providing the Bureau of Prisons allows him to bring this picture with him into stir. As you can see, it’s from 2009 when Trucchio – a second generation wiseguy – threw a Christmas party for his crew.

That’s Trucchio, five big guys from the left, in the gray suit with his left hand on the shoulder of the smiling mob associate crouching beside the cocktail table filled with what look like choice beverages. The guy on the far left of the snowflake-laden card, the one still waiting for the holiday spirit to strike, is Trucchio’s right-hand-man, soldier Michael (Roc) Roccaforte.

Trucchio had good reason to smile. The young mobster had recently been promoted to capo. This made him the head of the Queens-based moneymaking crew once led by his imprisoned-for-life father, Ronald, a contemporary of late mafia boss John Gotti.

But the widest grin seems to be on the shortest man in the group. He’s standing two over from Roccaforte, the only one toasting the occasion with a drink in his hand. That’s mob associate Howard Santos and he’s got a secret reason to smile: He was wearing a wire for the FBI that day. The secrets he recorded helped launch the Mafia Takedown Day arrest of Trucchio, Roccaforte and 19 others on racketeering and drug trafficking charges.

Another moment for the capo to remember came a few months later, when Trucchio took part in a rare mob summit meeting with the boss of the Philadelphia crime family.

The May 2010 sitdown, Gang Land has learned, took place in an undisclosed New Jersey restaurant. The meeting between leaders of the two crime families included wiseguy John Gambino, a key member of a ruling panel that was running the Gambino family at the time, according to recently filed court papers.

Roccaforte, whose own plea deal calls for the same 121 months maximum as Trucchio, also attended the conference.

At the session, Philly mob boss Joseph (Uncle Joe) Ligambi and his top aides sought help in resolving ongoing issues they had with the Luchese family and with the so-called real Sopranos, the Newark based DeCavalcante clan that has been viewed as subservient to the Gambinos since the heyday of the late Dapper Don.

The reason we can report this is because the conversation was taped by another turncoat wiseguy, Nicholas (Nicky Skins) Stefanelli, the Gambino soldier who began cooperating with the FBI when he and his son were nabbed for drug dealing. Stefanelli’s stint as an informant ended with a bang, as Gang Land reported three months ago: Just days before the feds were to end the undercover aspect of his work and prepare him to testify against mobsters and associates from eight Mafia families in six states, Nicky Skins shot and killed the informer who gave him up to the FBI, and then committed suicide.

But his tapes live on, and the one he recorded on May 19, 2010 should become a Gang Land classic. On it, Gambino, an aging Sicilian-born cousin of family patriarch Carlo Gambino, and Philadelphia capo Joseph (Scoops) Licata, and the then-33-year-old Trucchio are heard commiserating about the inroads the feds have made against them in recent years, and some of the things they should do to avoid their own returns to the big house.

“We still got to stay with the old rules,” said Licata, 70. “If you don’t know the families, the grandmothers, the grandfathers, forget it….If you don’t know them a lifetime, or somebody good recommends, there ain’t nothing you can do.”

The 71-year-old Gambino agreed, and stressed the need to be very careful about who gets inducted into the family. “The only way to survive: You need quality, not quantity,” he said.

“Guys made it about money,” chimed in Philly wiseguy Louis (Big Lou) Fazzini, 45. “It’s not about money, it’s about brotherhood,” he said.

“Money clouds people’s judgment,” agreed Trucchio, who allegedly made millions of dollars heading up drug dealing scams over the past decade and has agreed to forfeit $100,000 as part of his plea deal. “That’s what gets people locked up,” he added.

“The green-eyed monster,” noted Licata, according to the papers filed last week by Philadelphia prosecutors in a successful effort to detain the two mobsters as dangers to the community.

“During the meeting,” prosecutors wrote in recently filed court papers, “Licata bragged that he was incarcerated with a former boss of the Gambino family and predicted to members of the Luchese and Genovese families that he would become a rat,” an apparent reference to John (Junior) Gotti. Licata and the former acting Gambino boss, who stymied four federal juries by admitting his wiseguy status but insisting that he had quit the mob, were inmates at Ray Brook federal prison in upstate New York from 1999 to 2003.

Licata also wondered aloud about the fate of John Gambino and the other members of the three-capo panel that was running the family when “the old leaders,” namely Joseph (Jo Jo) Corozzo, his brother Nicholas (Little Nick) Corozzo and Little Nick’s longtime partner-in-crime, Leonard DiMaria were “released from prison.”

No reply by the Gambino contingent is noted in the court papers, but Licata was probably saying nice things about the Corozzos and DiMaria because he knew that Nicky Skins, a Newark resident, was proposed for membership by them and was in a crew that was then headed by an acting capo handpicked by the Corozzo contingent.

If they’re smart, all three should thank the mob gods they were in prison while Nicky Skins was wearing his wire, and look to retire. Nick will be 80 when he gets out in 2020. Jo Jo, 70, is unlikely to get out for another five years, assuming he agrees to a plea deal to his still pending racketeering case. Lenny, 71, just got out and has three years of supervised release ahead.

Sources say Gambino capo Daniel Marino was slated to attend the confab, but couldn’t when he was hit with racketeering and murder charges a month earlier and detained without bail. Like the Corozzo group, Marino, 71, should be looking to get a retirement package when he is released in 2014.



GR or anyone really, which faction or crew or whatever you want to call it likely has the most made guys in it? If I'm guessing, I would say Ligambi/Merlino?

Also, why is it that Ligambi and Merlino are different factions? I mean uncle joe was made acting by Joey, they clearly get along just fine, if anything I could see maybe 3 factions,but does anyone know why they are distinguishing Uncle joe and skinny? IMO Skinny is the boss, Uncle Joe is acting theyre one in the same faction with Stevie as the street boss or UB and johnny chang and his pops as consigs
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/19/16 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?


[b]Probably the same group of people that were caught on tape with Stefanelli

If that is true they have met multiple times, they must have some joint real estate rackets or something else going on

It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


i am not sure i think that meeting was really about the philly mob asking for help because the lucheses were moving in on terriorty and they also discussed the decavancte family

Then again the whole gambino administration was there look at this old gangland article[/b]

Gambino capo Alphonse Trucchio will soon be hit with as many as 10 years behind bars for drug dealing. He’ll have a lot of time to reflect on the good old days, and to think even harder about those who helped put an end to them.

One moment will be easy to remember, providing the Bureau of Prisons allows him to bring this picture with him into stir. As you can see, it’s from 2009 when Trucchio – a second generation wiseguy – threw a Christmas party for his crew.

That’s Trucchio, five big guys from the left, in the gray suit with his left hand on the shoulder of the smiling mob associate crouching beside the cocktail table filled with what look like choice beverages. The guy on the far left of the snowflake-laden card, the one still waiting for the holiday spirit to strike, is Trucchio’s right-hand-man, soldier Michael (Roc) Roccaforte.

Trucchio had good reason to smile. The young mobster had recently been promoted to capo. This made him the head of the Queens-based moneymaking crew once led by his imprisoned-for-life father, Ronald, a contemporary of late mafia boss John Gotti.

But the widest grin seems to be on the shortest man in the group. He’s standing two over from Roccaforte, the only one toasting the occasion with a drink in his hand. That’s mob associate Howard Santos and he’s got a secret reason to smile: He was wearing a wire for the FBI that day. The secrets he recorded helped launch the Mafia Takedown Day arrest of Trucchio, Roccaforte and 19 others on racketeering and drug trafficking charges.

Another moment for the capo to remember came a few months later, when Trucchio took part in a rare mob summit meeting with the boss of the Philadelphia crime family.

The May 2010 sitdown, Gang Land has learned, took place in an undisclosed New Jersey restaurant. The meeting between leaders of the two crime families included wiseguy John Gambino, a key member of a ruling panel that was running the Gambino family at the time, according to recently filed court papers.

Roccaforte, whose own plea deal calls for the same 121 months maximum as Trucchio, also attended the conference.

At the session, Philly mob boss Joseph (Uncle Joe) Ligambi and his top aides sought help in resolving ongoing issues they had with the Luchese family and with the so-called real Sopranos, the Newark based DeCavalcante clan that has been viewed as subservient to the Gambinos since the heyday of the late Dapper Don.

The reason we can report this is because the conversation was taped by another turncoat wiseguy, Nicholas (Nicky Skins) Stefanelli, the Gambino soldier who began cooperating with the FBI when he and his son were nabbed for drug dealing. Stefanelli’s stint as an informant ended with a bang, as Gang Land reported three months ago: Just days before the feds were to end the undercover aspect of his work and prepare him to testify against mobsters and associates from eight Mafia families in six states, Nicky Skins shot and killed the informer who gave him up to the FBI, and then committed suicide.

But his tapes live on, and the one he recorded on May 19, 2010 should become a Gang Land classic. On it, Gambino, an aging Sicilian-born cousin of family patriarch Carlo Gambino, and Philadelphia capo Joseph (Scoops) Licata, and the then-33-year-old Trucchio are heard commiserating about the inroads the feds have made against them in recent years, and some of the things they should do to avoid their own returns to the big house.

“We still got to stay with the old rules,” said Licata, 70. “If you don’t know the families, the grandmothers, the grandfathers, forget it….If you don’t know them a lifetime, or somebody good recommends, there ain’t nothing you can do.”

The 71-year-old Gambino agreed, and stressed the need to be very careful about who gets inducted into the family. “The only way to survive: You need quality, not quantity,” he said.

“Guys made it about money,” chimed in Philly wiseguy Louis (Big Lou) Fazzini, 45. “It’s not about money, it’s about brotherhood,” he said.

“Money clouds people’s judgment,” agreed Trucchio, who allegedly made millions of dollars heading up drug dealing scams over the past decade and has agreed to forfeit $100,000 as part of his plea deal. “That’s what gets people locked up,” he added.

“The green-eyed monster,” noted Licata, according to the papers filed last week by Philadelphia prosecutors in a successful effort to detain the two mobsters as dangers to the community.

“During the meeting,” prosecutors wrote in recently filed court papers, “Licata bragged that he was incarcerated with a former boss of the Gambino family and predicted to members of the Luchese and Genovese families that he would become a rat,” an apparent reference to John (Junior) Gotti. Licata and the former acting Gambino boss, who stymied four federal juries by admitting his wiseguy status but insisting that he had quit the mob, were inmates at Ray Brook federal prison in upstate New York from 1999 to 2003.

Licata also wondered aloud about the fate of John Gambino and the other members of the three-capo panel that was running the family when “the old leaders,” namely Joseph (Jo Jo) Corozzo, his brother Nicholas (Little Nick) Corozzo and Little Nick’s longtime partner-in-crime, Leonard DiMaria were “released from prison.”

No reply by the Gambino contingent is noted in the court papers, but Licata was probably saying nice things about the Corozzos and DiMaria because he knew that Nicky Skins, a Newark resident, was proposed for membership by them and was in a crew that was then headed by an acting capo handpicked by the Corozzo contingent.

If they’re smart, all three should thank the mob gods they were in prison while Nicky Skins was wearing his wire, and look to retire. Nick will be 80 when he gets out in 2020. Jo Jo, 70, is unlikely to get out for another five years, assuming he agrees to a plea deal to his still pending racketeering case. Lenny, 71, just got out and has three years of supervised release ahead.

Sources say Gambino capo Daniel Marino was slated to attend the confab, but couldn’t when he was hit with racketeering and murder charges a month earlier and detained without bail. Like the Corozzo group, Marino, 71, should be looking to get a retirement package when he is released in 2014.



GR or anyone really, which faction or crew or whatever you want to call it likely has the most made guys in it? If I'm guessing, I would say Ligambi/Merlino?

Also, why is it that Ligambi and Merlino are different factions? I mean uncle joe was made acting by Joey, they clearly get along just fine, if anything I could see maybe 3 factions,but does anyone know why they are distinguishing Uncle joe and skinny? IMO Skinny is the boss, Uncle Joe is acting theyre one in the same faction with Stevie as the street boss or UB and johnny chang and his pops as consigs


I believe them to be from the same faction.

As far as who is in what crew and the associate to made guy ration in a specific crew...I have no idea


however I think Borghesi has the least, as in zero made guys in his crew

some hang arounds and union guys...none that took an oath imo
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/19/16 10:05 AM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


Because the Genovese are smart. Why babysit bums? The Genovese play a much deeper game and avoid people who bring attention to them. These guys have associates who make Joey Merlino look like Henry Hill's driver.


There's always been an interesting dynamic when it came to the Genovese family, the Gambino family, and the Philadelphia family.

We know Angelo Bruno was tight with Carlo Gambino and one would tend to think that would give an influential edge to the Gambinos prior to Gambino's death. Yet it was the Genovese family that represented Philadelphia on the Commission after Bruno was killed. And it was the Genovese family that seemed to be the driving force that went after Bruno's killers and later Testa's as well.

When Nicky Scarfo took over, the Genovese appeared to have the influential edge, considering Scarfo was tight with Bobby Manna. Yet, after Scarfo went down it was Stanfa that appeared as boss, apparently with Gambino backing.

You then had the Stanfa vs Merlino war where the Stanfa faction had the nominal backing of the Gambinos and the Merlino faction had the nominal backing of the Genovese (due to Ralph Natale's connections).

Later you had people from the Genovese and Gambino families together plotting with Peter Caprio to take out Ligambi, Mazzone, and Borgesi in an attempt to expand video poker operations into Philadelphia territory, as well as take over that family.

Of course then you later have Ligambi and other Philadelphia guys sitting down to lunch with the Gambinos.
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/19/16 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


Because the Genovese are smart. Why babysit bums? The Genovese play a much deeper game and avoid people who bring attention to them. These guys have associates who make Joey Merlino look like Henry Hill's driver.


There's always been an interesting dynamic when it came to the Genovese family, the Gambino family, and the Philadelphia family.

We know Angelo Bruno was tight with Carlo Gambino and one would tend to think that would give an influential edge to the Gambinos prior to Gambino's death. Yet it was the Genovese family that represented Philadelphia on the Commission after Bruno was killed. And it was the Genovese family that seemed to be the driving force that went after Bruno's killers and later Testa's as well.

When Nicky Scarfo took over, the Genovese appeared to have the influential edge, considering Scarfo was tight with Bobby Manna. Yet, after Scarfo went down it was Stanfa that appeared as boss, apparently with Gambino backing.

You then had the Stanfa vs Merlino war where the Stanfa faction had the nominal backing of the Gambinos and the Merlino faction had the nominal backing of the Genovese (due to Ralph Natale's connections).

Later you had people from the Genovese and Gambino families together plotting with Peter Caprio to take out Ligambi, Mazzone, and Borgesi in an attempt to expand video poker operations into Philadelphia territory, as well as take over that family.

Of course then you later have Ligambi and other Philadelphia guys sitting down to lunch with the Gambinos.
Don't think the Genovese family and gambino family would be duelling over control of the Philly mob today , but in the past it would have been a cash cow
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/19/16 10:16 AM

Sorry ivy meant to post that as my own comment , not sure what happened
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/19/16 10:49 AM

I don't think so. While it still has influence, I don't think NY has the dictatorial control over Philadelphia it once did. And the NY families have enough problems without trying to assert control or attempt a takeover of the Philadelphia family.

That said, Philadelphia's territory still presents a tempting target. As I said above, you had NY wanting to expand video poker operations into Philadelphia in the late 1990s. Then prior to their bust in 2095, you had Larry Dentico's crew actually set up a wire room for its bookmaking operations right in South Philly. They did give Philadelphia a cut for operating in their territory.

Posted By: STREETBOSS

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 12:43 AM

Hey,people listen Johnny Chang has not Owned That News Stand since 2011..Just wanted people to know that !!!!!!!
Posted By: AmericanCrime

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 05:02 AM

I hear alot of talk about dead guys and the fanboys flocking to these bubblegum gangsters. What you lot really know about the South Philly scene. True twin cig shoppe, friendly lounge, cheers to you. that where it at. stevie gongs, spider w/ the Pagans. Come on fanboys gettin hard everytime you catch a scent of a wiseguys ass. lollll
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: AmericanCrime
I hear alot of talk about dead guys and the fanboys flocking to these bubblegum gangsters. What you lot really know about the South Philly scene. True twin cig shoppe, friendly lounge, cheers to you. that where it at. stevie gongs, spider w/ the Pagans. Come on fanboys gettin hard everytime you catch a scent of a wiseguys ass. lollll


Wow man...Thanks for adding to the thread with such thoughtful insight!!!
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: AmericanCrime
I hear alot of talk about dead guys and the fanboys flocking to these bubblegum gangsters. What you lot really know about the South Philly scene. True twin cig shoppe, friendly lounge, cheers to you. that where it at. stevie gongs, spider w/ the Pagans. Come on fanboys gettin hard everytime you catch a scent of a wiseguys ass. lollll


Wow man...Thanks for adding to the thread with such thoughtful insight!!!


Posted By: Itiswhatitis

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 02:31 PM

I think in AmericanCrime's own way he was contributing......mentioning some known/ unknown hangout spots, etc
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 03:43 PM

uh-huh.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Who did the Gambinos meet with? Them being, who exactly? Merlino, or Ligambi? Or someone else?


[b]Probably the same group of people that were caught on tape with Stefanelli

If that is true they have met multiple times, they must have some joint real estate rackets or something else going on

It seems they answer to the Gambinos rather than the Genovese like they used to.,I wonder when that changed


i am not sure i think that meeting was really about the philly mob asking for help because the lucheses were moving in on terriorty and they also discussed the decavancte family

Then again the whole gambino administration was there look at this old gangland article[/b]

Gambino capo Alphonse Trucchio will soon be hit with as many as 10 years behind bars for drug dealing. He’ll have a lot of time to reflect on the good old days, and to think even harder about those who helped put an end to them.

One moment will be easy to remember, providing the Bureau of Prisons allows him to bring this picture with him into stir. As you can see, it’s from 2009 when Trucchio – a second generation wiseguy – threw a Christmas party for his crew.

That’s Trucchio, five big guys from the left, in the gray suit with his left hand on the shoulder of the smiling mob associate crouching beside the cocktail table filled with what look like choice beverages. The guy on the far left of the snowflake-laden card, the one still waiting for the holiday spirit to strike, is Trucchio’s right-hand-man, soldier Michael (Roc) Roccaforte.

Trucchio had good reason to smile. The young mobster had recently been promoted to capo. This made him the head of the Queens-based moneymaking crew once led by his imprisoned-for-life father, Ronald, a contemporary of late mafia boss John Gotti.

But the widest grin seems to be on the shortest man in the group. He’s standing two over from Roccaforte, the only one toasting the occasion with a drink in his hand. That’s mob associate Howard Santos and he’s got a secret reason to smile: He was wearing a wire for the FBI that day. The secrets he recorded helped launch the Mafia Takedown Day arrest of Trucchio, Roccaforte and 19 others on racketeering and drug trafficking charges.

Another moment for the capo to remember came a few months later, when Trucchio took part in a rare mob summit meeting with the boss of the Philadelphia crime family.

The May 2010 sitdown, Gang Land has learned, took place in an undisclosed New Jersey restaurant. The meeting between leaders of the two crime families included wiseguy John Gambino, a key member of a ruling panel that was running the Gambino family at the time, according to recently filed court papers.

Roccaforte, whose own plea deal calls for the same 121 months maximum as Trucchio, also attended the conference.

At the session, Philly mob boss Joseph (Uncle Joe) Ligambi and his top aides sought help in resolving ongoing issues they had with the Luchese family and with the so-called real Sopranos, the Newark based DeCavalcante clan that has been viewed as subservient to the Gambinos since the heyday of the late Dapper Don.

The reason we can report this is because the conversation was taped by another turncoat wiseguy, Nicholas (Nicky Skins) Stefanelli, the Gambino soldier who began cooperating with the FBI when he and his son were nabbed for drug dealing. Stefanelli’s stint as an informant ended with a bang, as Gang Land reported three months ago: Just days before the feds were to end the undercover aspect of his work and prepare him to testify against mobsters and associates from eight Mafia families in six states, Nicky Skins shot and killed the informer who gave him up to the FBI, and then committed suicide.

But his tapes live on, and the one he recorded on May 19, 2010 should become a Gang Land classic. On it, Gambino, an aging Sicilian-born cousin of family patriarch Carlo Gambino, and Philadelphia capo Joseph (Scoops) Licata, and the then-33-year-old Trucchio are heard commiserating about the inroads the feds have made against them in recent years, and some of the things they should do to avoid their own returns to the big house.

“We still got to stay with the old rules,” said Licata, 70. “If you don’t know the families, the grandmothers, the grandfathers, forget it….If you don’t know them a lifetime, or somebody good recommends, there ain’t nothing you can do.”

The 71-year-old Gambino agreed, and stressed the need to be very careful about who gets inducted into the family. “The only way to survive: You need quality, not quantity,” he said.

“Guys made it about money,” chimed in Philly wiseguy Louis (Big Lou) Fazzini, 45. “It’s not about money, it’s about brotherhood,” he said.

“Money clouds people’s judgment,” agreed Trucchio, who allegedly made millions of dollars heading up drug dealing scams over the past decade and has agreed to forfeit $100,000 as part of his plea deal. “That’s what gets people locked up,” he added.

“The green-eyed monster,” noted Licata, according to the papers filed last week by Philadelphia prosecutors in a successful effort to detain the two mobsters as dangers to the community.

“During the meeting,” prosecutors wrote in recently filed court papers, “Licata bragged that he was incarcerated with a former boss of the Gambino family and predicted to members of the Luchese and Genovese families that he would become a rat,” an apparent reference to John (Junior) Gotti. Licata and the former acting Gambino boss, who stymied four federal juries by admitting his wiseguy status but insisting that he had quit the mob, were inmates at Ray Brook federal prison in upstate New York from 1999 to 2003.

Licata also wondered aloud about the fate of John Gambino and the other members of the three-capo panel that was running the family when “the old leaders,” namely Joseph (Jo Jo) Corozzo, his brother Nicholas (Little Nick) Corozzo and Little Nick’s longtime partner-in-crime, Leonard DiMaria were “released from prison.”

No reply by the Gambino contingent is noted in the court papers, but Licata was probably saying nice things about the Corozzos and DiMaria because he knew that Nicky Skins, a Newark resident, was proposed for membership by them and was in a crew that was then headed by an acting capo handpicked by the Corozzo contingent.

If they’re smart, all three should thank the mob gods they were in prison while Nicky Skins was wearing his wire, and look to retire. Nick will be 80 when he gets out in 2020. Jo Jo, 70, is unlikely to get out for another five years, assuming he agrees to a plea deal to his still pending racketeering case. Lenny, 71, just got out and has three years of supervised release ahead.

Sources say Gambino capo Daniel Marino was slated to attend the confab, but couldn’t when he was hit with racketeering and murder charges a month earlier and detained without bail. Like the Corozzo group, Marino, 71, should be looking to get a retirement package when he is released in 2014.



GR or anyone really, which faction or crew or whatever you want to call it likely has the most made guys in it? If I'm guessing, I would say Ligambi/Merlino?

Also, why is it that Ligambi and Merlino are different factions? I mean uncle joe was made acting by Joey, they clearly get along just fine, if anything I could see maybe 3 factions,but does anyone know why they are distinguishing Uncle joe and skinny? IMO Skinny is the boss, Uncle Joe is acting theyre one in the same faction with Stevie as the street boss or UB and johnny chang and his pops as consigs



he probably made ligambi acting boss because everybody respected him

philly is disfunctional and i doubt too many guys honor merlino
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 06:12 PM

Philly dysfunctional to a degree . If they were that bad you would know who is in each crew.

You would know who the skipper of those crews are and what that crew and skippers rackets are .

You would have wire taps like crazy with the world of Technology that we live in cos you bet theses guys are using the technology that would put them away if they were so dysfunctional.

The fact that they have so many young guys . I been hearing five guys were made a few years back and at least five guys have been made just recently .

So maybe just maybe they do have there shit together above the dysfunctional level.
It looking like they have a good system to keep the info that needs to be herd passed around well.

And they are not getting week and using phones and talking in places that can be bugged.

The Technology the Feds and LE have I am stunned that the guys are doing the right thing. The made guys and the associates are sticking to the rules that have been told to them.

Because if they were slipping just a little there would be indictments coming every six months.

I for one am very surprised at the way they have been able to do business in the open and keeping all else not on tape!!!

There a possibility that there are 58 - 61 made guys in that family .


Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
The fact that they have so many young guys . I been hearing five guys were made a few years back and at least five guys have been made just recently .


Anyone have any idea who these guys are? I can't imagine these are competent street guys.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 06:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Philly dysfunctional to a degree . If they were that bad you would know who is in each crew.

You would know who the skipper of those crews are and what that crew and skippers rackets are .

You would have wire taps like crazy with the world of Technology that we live in cos you bet theses guys are using the technology that would put them away if they were so dysfunctional.

The fact that they have so many young guys . I been hearing five guys were made a few years back and at least five guys have been made just recently .

So maybe just maybe they do have there shit together above the dysfunctional level.
It looking like they have a good system to keep the info that needs to be herd passed around well.

And they are not getting week and using phones and talking in places that can be bugged.

The Technology the Feds and LE have I am stunned that the guys are doing the right thing. The made guys and the associates are sticking to the rules that have been told to them.

Because if they were slipping just a little there would be indictments coming every six months.

I for one am very surprised at the way they have been able to do business in the open and keeping all else not on tape!!!

There a possibility that there are 58 - 61 made guys in that family .




true anatasia said in his latest article 5 guys got made recently


Unsolved Murders Still On The Feds' Philadelphia Agenda

It's a Yogi Berra moment in South Philadelphia.

Déjàvu all over again.

Members of both the Nicodemo (Little Nicky) Scarfo and Joseph (Skinny Joey) Merlino factions of the dysfunctional Philadelphia crime family are back on the streets after spending most of the past two decades in jail for racketeering.

The Scarfo crew includes guys like Phil Narducci and Joe Pungitore, shooters from the 1980s who have returned home over the past three years. The Merlino faction is headed by George Borgesi, Stevie Mazzone and John Ciancaglini, all of whom were convicted with Merlino in 2001, the last big mob trial in Philadelphia to end with convictions and substantial prison terms for many wiseguys.

Acting boss Joseph (Uncle Joe) Ligambi's got a foot in each camp. He was a shooter for the Scarfo group, but returned home before most of the other members of that organization when his conviction for the 1985 murder of Frank (Frankie Flowers) D'Alfonso was overturned and his retrial led to his acquittal. Ligambi fell in with the Merlino group in 1999 and took over as boss when Skinny Joey and his top associates were jailed a year later.

Now, everybody's back in town.

As reported by Dave Schratwieser on Fox 29 in Philadelphia last month, federal and state investigators are tracking the activities of the key players. Borgesi and Ligambi appear to be operating out of a new clubhouse across from the Epiphany Roman Catholic Church at 11th and Jackson Streets in the heart of South Philadelphia.

"Makes it easier to get to confession," quipped one longtime underworld observer.

But there really isn't much new to confess.

"They're strictly legit," said one friend of the family.

Borgesi and company are making inroads into the home rehab and mortgage refi businesses. Pungitore is also in the construction business which is booming in certain neighborhoods where gentrification has taken hold.

David Fritchey, the former federal prosecutor who headed the Organized Crime Strike Force in the U.S. Attorney's Office in Philadelphia for many years, said old habits die hard.

It doesn't speak well for their rehabilitation, he said, if wiseguys are back hanging around with former co-defendants. That, said the ex-prosecutor who retired back in July, is a formula for "recidivism."

But defense attorney Edwin Jacobs, who has represented both Merlino and Ligambi, told Fox 29 that there is nothing unusual about friends getting together. As he has argued to juries in the past, Jacobs said authorities are overplaying the associations.

"It's good to have a wide circle of friends," Jacobs said as the TV cameras rolled. "Federal law enforcement authorities look at The Godfather, one and two, as a text book. It's not a text book. It's a screen play."

Some might argue that the movies are actually training films for the next generation of wiseguys, the 20- and 30-something sycophants who now congregate at the new clubhouse. Two or three generations removed from the immigrant experience, these Americanized wannabe mobsters have to have someone show them how to act.

While Jacobs argues that the local mob is a shell of what it once was, federal and state authorities are now focusing on what they believe is the resurgence of the crime family.

"You have to admire their resilience," said one investigator familiar with the history of wanton violence, turncoat testimony and racketeering prosecutions that since the Scarfo era have left more than 30 members dead and that led to significant jail time for at least 30 others.

"They have a long and successful business model" that involves "violence and intimidation," said Fritchey who dismisses the argument that the one-time convicts have paid their debt to society and ought to be left alone. "If they're not doing anything wrong, then they shouldn't be worried about who's watching them."

It may not be the present, but rather the past, that gives Merlino, Ligambi and some of their top associates the most concern.

While investigators are tracking the new business ventures, they also have begun to revisit the cold case files involving the murders of mobsters Ron Turchi in 1999, Raymond (Long John) Martorano in 2002 and John (Johnny Gongs) Casasanto in 2003.

Authorities are also aware that at least five new members were formally initiated into the crime family in October, a move that would appear to run counter to defense attorney arguments at the racketeering trials of Ligambi and Borgesi two years ago. (Both Ligambi and Borgesi beat the charges, but four others were convicted). Among other things, the defense contended that while the defendants might be members of Cosa Nostra, the organization was no longer relevant.

'If that were the case," asked Fritchey, the retired federal prosecutor, "then why are people interested in getting made? You don't see anyone lining up to join the Knights Templar
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 07:00 PM

they are still looking at the johnny gongs and marananto hit if they ever solve those murders nicdmeo is fucked
Posted By: AmericanCrime

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 08:57 PM

Originally Posted By: AmericanCrime
I hear alot of talk about dead guys and the fanboys flocking to these bubblegum gangsters. What you lot really know about the South Philly scene. True twin cig shoppe, friendly lounge, cheers to you. that where it at. stevie gongs, spider w/ the Pagans. Come on fanboys gettin hard everytime you catch a scent of a wiseguys ass. lollll

Twin Smoke Shoppe* excuse me gentlemen.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 09:01 PM

Streets of Philadelphia music video and Stanfa-Merlino mob war are now forever intertwined in my mind.

Can't watch that video now without thinking of Stanfa, Merlino, Ciancaglini and Veasey.
Posted By: Itiswhatitis

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/20/16 10:26 PM

American - can you expand at all on the spider w/ the pagans reference?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/21/16 01:07 AM

Any idea how much time the older narducci brother got for violating his parole for meeting with other mobsters and how come he's the only scarfo guy getting in trouble by parole arnt they all on it. Like the old man Chang he's taking pics with guys.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/21/16 03:00 AM

Found the answer looks like he was released in Nov 2015 so they gave him a 90 day violation. So he's probaly off parole and back in the mix.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/22/16 06:34 AM

There basically is 4 factions. None of them big and try consist of a few made guys and a handulmat most of associates. And most associates are people with very close family or friend connections who want that life or guys who are good earners and are hung up on being a member and third the guys who kinda get sucked in cause was making money and they kinda scared but they was probably making good change. But as I've said a billion times, there are a ton of independents and if you stay under the radar on all fronts and keep to yourself ot also have some connects of thrynown and they let them do it on their own as long as they help each other n do favors n shot your fine. Some people, especially drug dealers, who can finance themselves. Are inxepemdent. Also a lot of lower scale local bookies and loan sharks don't Pay a tax or anytnimg.

My point being these crews dont have many associates in the way it might appear. There are more made guys in a crew than associates. There only a couple and then they may have a nephew run errands or drive for them at times but that's just a mob groupie doing anything to look like a part of a crew.

I know a guy, mousies half brother, who use to be a crack head but always was cool with the guys. He dies his own little thing but nothing major and he OlDs a lot of cards n gambles n does little shot. His son does same thing. But they dont want his money. They talk about him. He a decent dude but I think Philly mob getting smarter as well and i think its oartlu cause joey has grown up and is also out of town a lot. They dont just deal with anyone. Sorry for tins long message and if messy cause im on my phone. But Philly has a ton of independents that the mob would t do shot about. Its not like 1 captain, 5 buttons and 10 associates. It could be 1 captain and/or a administrative member and like 3 to 5 made guys and 3 to 5 associates at most and that's including the little nephews n shit doing nothing so really more like 3 associates. Just a random guess from what I know and understand!
Posted By: dave213

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/22/16 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: spmob
There basically is 4 factions.


What are they? And why not just call them crews instead of "factions"? Factions to me sounds like unusual splits in a family which resulted from conflict. Just trying to understand the structure, and if there really is anything behind this common usage of the word "faction" when talking about the Philly family.
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 03:37 AM

On a slightly unrelated topic but was always curious bein from Philly why do you guys think the Philly LCN was never really involved in truck hijackings outta pžhilly intl airport?

Unless im mistaken i don't recall reading any accounts that Ida, Bruno, Scarfo ever were involved in truck hijackings outta the airport? I mean for those not from here South Philly the LcN home turf is about a 10 minute drive to the airport.. I ask also in relation to NY whereby the Vario crew and the Fatico crew as well as Massino crew to a lesser degree all were heavily involved with truck hijackings outta JFK as they were in close proximity to the airport as well as having inside connections

Is it just simply another example of the philly lcn not having neary the strength, influence, and connections as even the weakest nyc fam or is there another reason the more knowledgeable guys here can shed some light on?

Also just curious but at say Newark intl did the decavs or the nj branches of the 5 fam ever have airport cargo hijackings rackets? How about other fams like the Patriarcas in the tiny Providence airport? Or even Logan in beantown?! How about other mid western families? Or again was this strictly a nyc thing? Sorry to hijack this thread but always wondered bout this, thanks fellas
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 05:38 AM

Good question.

Chicago have any issues back in the day at Ohare with hijackings?
Or was this simply a NY phenom?
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 01:18 PM

I don't know if they ever had a organized high jacking crew .
But they did have guys on the loading docks and at the Convention center in Philly and A.C. That would wait for the shows to end then they would heist what they wanted or what was in demand .

At one point it got so bad that they almost lost the shows here in A.C. So it was slowed so the Conventions would continue .
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
I don't know if they ever had a organized high jacking crew .
But they did have guys on the loading docks and at the Convention center in Philly and A.C. That would wait for the shows to end then they would heist what they wanted or what was in demand .

At one point it got so bad that they almost lost the shows here in A.C. So it was slowed so the Conventions would continue .


Joey and some of his guys were all busted as part of that 2001 RICO indictment for truck hijacking. It was out of the rail yard as opposed to the airport, but the Rail yard/Port of Philadelphia are both also in S. Philly so they might just have more connect in that area. That was the whole baby milk, track suits, bikes, computers, TVs, crates of nickels, cigs, vodka, toy car sets, etc were some of the loads they stole I think the aggregate figure he Feds came up with was like ~$1.5M of cargo...
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 05:32 PM

Thx gents
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 05:44 PM

$1.5m of cargo my ass.
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/24/16 07:29 PM

Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
$1.5m of cargo my ass.



http://articles.philly.com/1999-12-17/news/25480971_1_theft-ring-joseph-skinny-joey-merlino-mob-boss
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/25/16 01:19 AM

Good article.

Appreciate the post.
Posted By: FrankMazola

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/25/16 04:49 PM

I really want to see Anastasia do a 1990-present philly LCN book.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/25/16 05:04 PM

I was skeptical of the 1.5m figure and, after the article, I still am.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/25/16 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
I really want to see Anastasia do a 1990-present philly LCN book.


He did, it's called "The Last Gangster" it's Ron Previte's account of the 1990s Philly LCN scene with Merlino
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/25/16 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
I really want to see Anastasia do a 1990-present philly LCN book.


He did, it's called "The Last Gangster" it's Ron Previte's account of the 1990s Philly LCN scene with Merlino


The preview is horrible. I think Anastasia has about 100 pages he'll just copy into any book about Philly.

Also, what is UP with these guys and describing how dashing and handsome Merlino is? It's bizarre.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/25/16 08:13 PM

That was published in '04 and probably including little after say '02.

Not exactly current.
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/26/16 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
Originally Posted By: Serpiente
I don't know if they ever had a organized high jacking crew .
But they did have guys on the loading docks and at the Convention center in Philly and A.C. That would wait for the shows to end then they would heist what they wanted or what was in demand .

At one point it got so bad that they almost lost the shows here in A.C. So it was slowed so the Conventions would continue .


Joey and some of his guys were all busted as part of that 2001 RICO indictment for truck hijacking. It was out of the rail yard as opposed to the airport, but the Rail yard/Port of Philadelphia are both also in S. Philly so they might just have more connect in that area. That was the whole baby milk, track suits, bikes, computers, TVs, crates of nickels, cigs, vodka, toy car sets, etc were some of the loads they stole I think the aggregate figure he Feds came up with was like ~$1.5M of cargo...


Appreciate the response PHL, thats interesting never heard of that case...I wonder why Bruno back in the day when cargo hi-jacking was much easier to get away with because of the lack of technology never really took off in Philly? I mean like I said the airports right there, and its right off of 95 ud think there would be opportunities there?
Posted By: FrankMazola

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/26/16 08:52 PM

What I had in mind was a sort of "End of Merlino - 2016" book. It would be a nice end piece in George Anastasia's 40 year journalistic affair with Philly LCN. Started here - , then went down to here _ , now possibly back to here - . He could cover Johnny Gongs, Long John Martorano slayings, the Ligambi trial, and the return of everyone to the street. Ralph Natale or to a lesser extent, Bent Finger Lou could advise on 2000's to current LCN status.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/26/16 11:13 PM

He is probably waiting for a real high profile rat. I wonder who'd know the most icluding the 90s that could conceivably flip.
Posted By: FrankMazola

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 01:34 AM

That's probably true. The guy with the most to gain turning State's is definitely either Mousie or Staino.

Definitely not trying to call either out because both appear to be doing their time happily. But they're upper middle management and have to spend the next few years as guests of the American taxpayer.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 01:37 AM

The biggest turncoat would probably be Nicodemo. While just a soldier technically, he was privy to some high profile stuff because he was an earner. He may know more in terms of murders than either Massimino or Staino.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 02:27 PM

Crazy to think that more people probably ratted in a three year timespan (Stanfa/Merlino war) than the rest of the Philadelphian mob era tallied.
Posted By: NickyWhip

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 02:31 PM

Scarfo era had a bunch of rats too moe-mar ghadafhi. Delgiorno, Nicky crow, leonetti, merlino, grande, Milano. 6 pack of rat guy ale.
Posted By: FrankMazola

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The biggest turncoat would probably be Nicodemo. While just a soldier technically, he was privy to some high profile stuff because he was an earner. He may know more in terms of murders than either Massimino or Staino.


Interesting. I intentionally left him off given his only recently getting made. If you're right (I'm a lawyer not LCN), funny to think that admin guys like Mousie and Staino would know less about serious decisions like that versus a recently made guy.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The biggest turncoat would probably be Nicodemo. While just a soldier technically, he was privy to some high profile stuff because he was an earner. He may know more in terms of murders than either Massimino or Staino.


Interesting. I intentionally left him off given his only recently getting made. If you're right (I'm a lawyer not LCN), funny to think that admin guys like Mousie and Staino would know less about serious decisions like that versus a recently made guy.


I'm not LCN, I just read a lot, especially about the Philly mob and have participated in some great discussions on this forum and others with Philly members and have learned good information. For instance, while Massimino and Staino flipping would certainly do damage, Nicodemo could possibly bring the house down on the current Philly administration, notably Joe Ligambi. Nicodemo is a prime suspect in the Johnny Gongs murder, being the triggerman and how well liked he was, he'd be privy to motive and who made the order. In the DiPierto hit, he could take down the Grande's and Mazzone, since Dom is suspected by plenty to have been the actual triggerman. Again look at the Borgata case, despite being the recently made soldier, Nicodemo was earning some serious cash during that operation. Hes suspected to have had numerous investments in various bookmaking and sportsbetting operations. And according to prosecutors and law enforcement, despite his youth, hes considered a "dinosaur", a throwback to the old days of LCN.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 05:32 PM

nicdemeo i read was worth 1mil when he got arrested for that murder in 2012 big in real estate
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 09:08 PM

They must be letting someone run his suff and not stealing it so he keeps quiet.

That's what Gerogie is flipping out about them letting others grab his rackets, shocks me that Joe L let it happen without any problems.

It makes me think George was asking for more then what was his cos his blood family would have held on to it for him something else is going on with that.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/27/16 09:40 PM

A net worth of 1m really isn't that much but probably better than most Philly guts.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/28/16 02:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
They must be letting someone run his suff and not stealing it so he keeps quiet.

That's what Gerogie is flipping out about them letting others grab his rackets, shocks me that Joe L let it happen without any problems.

It makes me think George was asking for more then what was his cos his blood family would have held on to it for him something else is going on with that.


+1 on George.

It's hard to think Uncle joe let Georges 'property' go with him standing tall over a decade. You have to think George was asking for more than his.
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/29/16 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: FrankMazola
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
The biggest turncoat would probably be Nicodemo. While just a soldier technically, he was privy to some high profile stuff because he was an earner. He may know more in terms of murders than either Massimino or Staino.


Interesting. I intentionally left him off given his only recently getting made. If you're right (I'm a lawyer not LCN), funny to think that admin guys like Mousie and Staino would know less about serious decisions like that versus a recently made guy.


I'm not LCN, I just read a lot, especially about the Philly mob and have participated in some great discussions on this forum and others with Philly members and have learned good information. For instance, while Massimino and Staino flipping would certainly do damage, Nicodemo could possibly bring the house down on the current Philly administration, notably Joe Ligambi. Nicodemo is a prime suspect in the Johnny Gongs murder, being the triggerman and how well liked he was, he'd be privy to motive and who made the order. In the DiPierto hit, he could take down the Grande's and Mazzone, since Dom is suspected by plenty to have been the actual triggerman. Again look at the Borgata case, despite being the recently made soldier, Nicodemo was earning some serious cash during that operation. Hes suspected to have had numerous investments in various bookmaking and sportsbetting operations. And according to prosecutors and law enforcement, despite his youth, hes considered a "dinosaur", a throwback to the old days of LCN.

Nicodemo has info going back to the 1990s too. He was a protege of Merlino and was his driver. He was also Ligambi's first driver as acting boss.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/29/16 02:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
They must be letting someone run his suff and not stealing it so he keeps quiet.

That's what Gerogie is flipping out about them letting others grab his rackets, shocks me that Joe L let it happen without any problems.

It makes me think George was asking for more then what was his cos his blood family would have held on to it for him something else is going on with that.


Didnt they supposedly give his Delaware county operations to Mazzone or someone and didnt give them back when he got out?

Thought I read that somewhere...not 100 percent if it was Mazzone or not
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 02/29/16 01:50 PM

Johnny Chang, not Mazzone.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/04/16 06:03 AM

Frank, Serp, Gangstr, Sinatra - This is going to be a little bit assumption, a littler hearsay and then a fact.

I assume they broke up his rackets like his Gambling and LoanShark book. I have heard that Dom Grande got a nice percentage of one of his illegal rackets. As for the properties, ALL these guys have properties. Some do quick house flips, some put money into them if worth it and flip it like the TV shows, some buy apartment buildings, others turn buildings into apartment buildings, etc....and some do it all. You also will often have two guys go in on a project. Maybe their money is caught up at the moment and they can't pass on the deal. Sometimes its childhood friends and not other made guys or associates. When it came to properties, Nicodemo did it all. He also has did a lot of insurance fraud scams with some of the properities. They exagerate damage (flood, mold, storm) or the value in general. Anything they could make a few or skim a few off the top, he did. He had guys working for him to go write reports for a claim and he would tell them what to do/say. If he liked you and you were from the neighborhood he would give you an opportunity to put money on the street with him. Especially if you were already bringing him good clients. I personally know someone who did that with him for a long time. Started making money drop offs for him as well since he didnt do much else my buddy during the day. But most anything involved with his business is still with his Uncle and the guys that were involved with the business or any of his properites. His Uncle was always the one doing the properties going back ages. Now, I know he had a few side deals with Dom and another close friend or two as I talked about above. But the company is with his Uncle. That was theres or might have been the Uncles first. I can't remember. Now I don't know if his Uncle now has to pay a tax but i doubt it since Nicodemo has kept quiet. If they do, maybe they give to his family. Although there are people taking care of his family....FOR NOW. But like I said, he was an earner and his families aren't brokesters to begin with. His Uncle was the one going up to CFCF to see him and report back to the guys. I thought Nicodemo might flip if he thought he had no shot with that hit case. Once he didn't and plead out, he is never going to flip. He is known as being a pretty tough old school dude who is pretty smart...minus the hit gone wrong. He must be so pissed. He grew up around there and probably stalked it out and ended up being way over confident....BUT WOW HOW DUMB! He will eventually come home now and he was young when he went in. If another case pops up and someone starts talking, what will it get Nicodemo to start talking then. He would have to tell them about ALL his murders and would end up dying in jail because they aren't going to give him any deal at that point. He must be praying that things stay quiet and if Dom Grande ever gets caught up in something major that he is more like his Uncle and not his Father. wink
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/04/16 06:59 AM

I don't think they even have a "company" or an "office" per se like Nicodemo use to. I know he had his real estate license and I thought his Uncle did as well but I think they are basically legit and just doing "Sell/Buy by owner- No agents". When Nics wsa around I am pretty sure he had a company and workers. Now I am not sure if Ronnie Nicodemo has an office but he does have a few guys working for or with him. I would like to know more about that. I wonder if they are unloading properties or holding onto those. And what about the few he has with others.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/04/16 07:15 AM

Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
Originally Posted By: Serpiente
I don't know if they ever had a organized high jacking crew .
But they did have guys on the loading docks and at the Convention center in Philly and A.C. That would wait for the shows to end then they would heist what they wanted or what was in demand .

At one point it got so bad that they almost lost the shows here in A.C. So it was slowed so the Conventions would continue .


Joey and some of his guys were all busted as part of that 2001 RICO indictment for truck hijacking. It was out of the rail yard as opposed to the airport, but the Rail yard/Port of Philadelphia are both also in S. Philly so they might just have more connect in that area. That was the whole baby milk, track suits, bikes, computers, TVs, crates of nickels, cigs, vodka, toy car sets, etc were some of the loads they stole I think the aggregate figure he Feds came up with was like ~$1.5M of cargo...


Appreciate the response PHL, thats interesting never heard of that case...I wonder why Bruno back in the day when cargo hi-jacking was much easier to get away with because of the lack of technology never really took off in Philly? I mean like I said the airports right there, and its right off of 95 ud think there would be opportunities there?


yea remember Ralphie "head" went down with that one and now he is trying to sing locally last I heard. A family friend is close to him. From what I hear and see, he must be totally out of the life. I remember they couldn't find a place to store I think it was "baby formula" if my memory serves me correct and they couldn't flip it so they just left it at a service station somewhere. Some of the shit they did is just stupid.

Question: If there was money to be made like there was in the 80s to the Mid 90s (or prior), how do you think this current family would do? With the different factions? Knowing what they know now and with all the Rico laws and Videos and social media... I think they might have had a good shot and being a big family. I think it was pretty remarkably what Uncle Joe did as Acting boss. Mind you there wasn't a lot of guys making a ton of money but the guys who were did it smart and the guys who weren't did mess with Uncle Joe and if you wanted to make your own money, just make sure you kept his name out of your mouth. I think there was only one tape at his trial where another made guy mentioned Joe by name.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 02:21 PM

Really good stuff SPMob....

Any neighborhood gossip on who the 5 new guys who got straightened out are? I know how EVERYONE talks in South Philly....
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 02:54 PM

Anthony Accardo was listed as a made soldier on a new chart that was just made.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 03:36 PM

One of the Baldino brothers is one of the new made guys apparently, forget which one
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 04:10 PM

Joseph Baldino is listed on the new chart as a soldier. Frank is listed as an associate. Borgesi doesn't have a rank, but he supposedly has what's been called "Feech La Manna" status, as in he has no actual rank but he's higher than a soldier but doesn't have the official rank of a captain and is in direct contact with the administration. I think that supports my opinion of him having some new higher status in the family due to being the mouthpiece for his uncle Joe. Same goes for Sonny Mazzone, no actual crew, has the rank of soldier, officially, but is in direct contact with Philly administration.

Frank Narducci Jr. is listed as a soldier and is under Marty Angelina, if I'm reading the chart right. As is Marty "Crutch" Curro, and Frank DiPasquale.
Posted By: F_white

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Joseph Baldino is listed on the new chart as a soldier. Frank is listed as an associate. Borgesi doesn't have a rank, but he supposedly has what's been called "Feech La Manna" status, as in he has no actual rank but he's higher than a soldier but doesn't have the official rank of a captain. I think that supports my opinion of him having some new higher status in the family due to being the mouthpiece for his uncle Joe.

Frank Narducci Jr. is listed as a soldier and is under Marty Angelina, if I'm reading the chart right. As is Marty "Crutch" Curro, and Frank DiPasquale.
Do u have a link to the chart.
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 10:00 PM

http://k1ng6.net46.net/philly2014chart.jpg
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Anthony Accardo was listed as a made soldier on a new chart that was just made.


Edit: I see the chart link was posted
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 10:16 PM

Thats not even the chart I was talking about. There's a newer one. The one posted is out of date. Ralphie Head isn't made according to the new chart either. Which is made by Philly guys, mind you. Accardo is under Mikey Lance, not Angelina.


http://postimg.org/image/fl6lqdgz3/full/


The names shown at the top are the creators of the chart. I take no credit for this. Anyone tries to claim they contributed to the chart who isn't named in the link, is lying. Apparently that's been a problem for them in the past.
Posted By: PHL_Mob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 11:04 PM

Oh nice I've never seen this one. Solid find Sinatra thanks!
Posted By: FrankMazola

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 11:14 PM

So weird why Philly runs a crew of SO MANY Chiefs and not enough Indians. If I'm a top or a #2 or #3, why would I want so many Capo's middling the tribute that I could receive. Streamline like Chicago and Detroit (allegedly). Let's go with 3 Capo's + Narducci Faction. 8-10 Soldiers underneath each. Sounds like a lot more money would funnel to the top of the pyramid scheme IMHO.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 11:16 PM

No problem, man. You can find it over on the black hand forum, credit those guys over there. I'm just sharing what they've created.

From the chart just posted I still count about 3 crews. With everything funneling up to Mazzone & Ligambi, and then Merlino. You also have to consider with most of these guys doing the real estate thing, there might be more than enough to go around right now. With Staino locked up, one has to wonder whose running things for him and his guys. I think it's been mentioned before but I forget. Anyway, say the capos of the remaining crews are doing the real estate thing, maybe they're making enough, combine that with the soldiers who may be doing a little shylocking possibly, sports betting, bookmaking, and they're kicking up to the capos, combined that, that seems like enough for these guys to live semis comfortable to the point where kicking up a little up top may not hurt their pockets as much.

But as we can see, Borgesi has a direct plug to the admin, which like I said, I think validates my theory that he may be the mouthpiece/mover for his uncle. We can now cross out the "Ligambi crew", he and Borgesi have each other, where they don't necessarily need a crew, and we can see Borgesi has a handful of associates under him. Johnny Chang is contempt with whatever he's got from all we hear about him. And Joey Baldino seems to be the sole made guy directly under him. We can cross that out as a possible crew, Johnny Chang may be collecting and profiting off of respect and his name alone, and of course the backing of the top guys. Lancelotti seems to have an actual crew. and according to a source over on the Black Hand, Steve Frangipani may have also gotten his button recently.

I'm willing to scrap the whole crew thing and just go by who seems to be the most profitable/active, for now until I get a better understanding of what the lines drawn on the chart mean. The Scarfo guys may all be under Pungitore helping him out with his business, as we can see there's only two other Scarfo guys under him who aren't his brothers. So they may all be in the same racket for all we know. Marty Angelina, who knows what he's up to but Frank Narducci is under him and may not be independent like everyone thought a while back nor running his own crew, apparently he answers to a capo. I have no idea whats going on in North Jersey. So I'm not willing to involve them into the thick of things just yet, personally.

If one does want to believe in the traditional crew setting, seems only Joe Pung, Marty Ang, and Mikey Lance are actually running some as far as South Philly is concerned. Like others have said, Phil Narducci is out on an Island, by himself and a few associates. Guys who technically may never be made unless they switch their alliances.
Posted By: DelcoNostra

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/05/16 11:55 PM

Both charts are really put together well. I can't wait till 2037 when Nicodemo is boss! What about Faffy? He is still listed as incarcerated on these?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 02:45 AM

Think he's in a halfway house. Not sure.


Some more amazing work from the Guys over on The Black Hand. Again, all credit for this goes to the names mentioned at the very top of the chart.


Philly circa. 1982

http://postimg.org/image/4n2vaenmh/full/
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 04:06 AM

http://gangsterreport.com/gr-sources-geo...om-out-of-town/
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 05:05 AM

Dunno about Scott's Philly articles, tbh. Shratweiser didnt say anything about Borgesi running his own crew or starting problems in that Mob Talks piece. Not to mention pretty much all of his Philly articles regarding a "war" have yet to come into fruition. And I'd really like to know what Crime Family or subset he's talking about from Missouri. There hasn't been a presence or resemblance of a crime family out there since like, Prohibition.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 06:37 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Thats not even the chart I was talking about. There's a newer one. The one posted is out of date. Ralphie Head isn't made according to the new chart either. Which is made by Philly guys, mind you. Accardo is under Mikey Lance, not Angelina.


http://postimg.org/image/fl6lqdgz3/full/


The names shown at the top are the creators of the chart. I take no credit for this. Anyone tries to claim they contributed to the chart who isn't named in the link, is lying. Apparently that's been a problem for them in the past.


Yeah when I clicked on it I knew I had already seen that one before.

Thanks for the new link, about to check it out now
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 08:57 AM

Borgesi is alleged to have engaged in some type of physical altercation with a mob underling last week at the clubhouse on 11th & Jackson, per at least three sources, regarding the underling not properly taking care of a problem for imprisoned Mafioso Anthony (Tony Nicks) Nicodemo who pled guilty in state court to a murder conspiracy in 2015 and is doing a so-called “quarter piece” (25 years) as a guest of the government. Nicodemo, 44, came up in the mafia in the 1990s as Skinny Joey’s driver and bodyguard.

interesting if true does anyone know anything about this
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 01:20 PM

Nicodemo a bodyguard?

Why not save money and get Rita to be Joey's bodyguard?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 01:29 PM

Quote:
Per a number of reports and sources on the street in South Philly, today Borgesi heads one of four factions currently operating in the City of Brotherly Love’s mob and has been on shaky terms with childhood pal and perpetually-suave syndicate boss Joseph (Skinny Joey) Merlino since they were both incarcerated in different federal correctional facilities in the 2000s


Quote:
Magnetic, quick-witted and as camera-friendly as ever, Skinny Joey Merlino, 53, was released from prison in 2011 and splits his time between South Florida and his home base in South Philly.


lol

I'm beginning to think that's not ectoplasm on Scott's keyboard.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 01:33 PM

Keep saying on here Georgie will not sit for nobody. He will keep pressing till he gets to the top or dead.

Skinny been back in Florida with a couple AC guys visiting and hanging out at Merlino's and the Geator was in tow !!!!
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Quote:
Per a number of reports and sources on the street in South Philly, today Borgesi heads one of four factions currently operating in the City of Brotherly Love’s mob and has been on shaky terms with childhood pal and perpetually-suave syndicate boss Joseph (Skinny Joey) Merlino since they were both incarcerated in different federal correctional facilities in the 2000s


Quote:
Magnetic, quick-witted and as camera-friendly as ever, Skinny Joey Merlino, 53, was released from prison in 2011 and splits his time between South Florida and his home base in South Philly.


lol

I'm beginning to think that's not ectoplasm on Scott's keyboard.


rolleyes
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 01:55 PM

He's apparently got so many sources, knows about sit downs from a month ago, borgesi wanting to kill people etc yet has no idea who the 5 new members are, okay....
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 02:12 PM

New article from Scott with the latest on The Philly Mob.

Quote:
George Borgesi, recently home from a spell in the state pen, is making waves back in the city of brotherly love. A source said "George is hotheaded, he don't back down from nobody". Per trusted sources on the street, the family is split into four factions led by the GQ Magazine Cover Matinee Idol Joey Merlino, Joe Ligambi, Phil Narducci, and Joseph Pungitore. The handsome Merlino, currently a maitre d' at a Floridian restaurant in his name is "trying to keep the peace" per trusted sources on the street. "Joey is like trying to keep the peace and shit. Georgie has got a hair trigger temper. He don't back down. From nobody." As summer approaches, tempers in South Philly are going to get hotter - much like the weather. According to trusted sources on the street, five unknown mobsters have been made and their identities are the source of much acrimony. Per my trusted sources on the street: "It is only a matter of time till bodies start dropping. George has a ferocious temper and wants what is his. The guy just don't back down." The reputed consigliere Joseph "Chickie" Ciancaglini has been desperately trying to mend fences and extinguish fires within the family but tempers continue to fray in the big city. A trusted source on the street says "The guys respect Chickie and trust Steven Mazzone but there is only so much these guys can do. Georgie's not backing down." Borgesi and the enigmatic, suave, bewildering, beguiling, Joey Merlino. Once boyhood friends, now on a collision course. Stay tuned for more.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Keep saying on here Georgie will not sit for nobody. He will keep pressing till he gets to the top or dead.

Skinny been back in Florida with a couple AC guys visiting and hanging out at Merlino's and the Geator was in tow !!!!


According to Philly sources on other forums, those responsible for Tue new chart, he's technically already at the top, minus the official title. He has no actual rank but according to them he's like the Feech La Manna character, hes higher than the average soldier, higher than the average capo, but holds no official title, and has a direct link to the administration. I can understand wanting some of his Delaware Co. rackets back, but with his supposed real estate deals, and being able to open up a brand new social club, he seems to be doing okay. Not to mention surveillance has captured Merlino guys posted happily in front of his clubhouse and inside. If there was actual animosity between the two, why would they be there almost everyday, seemingly on amicable terms.
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 09:12 PM

Because Borgesi's beef is with Merlino and Angelina. Aside from Ligambi, everyone else seems to be standing on the sidelines.
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 09:15 PM

Eric Esposito is currently in a halfway house in Philly.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Skinny been back in Florida with a couple AC guys visiting and hanging out at Merlino's and the Geator was in tow !!!!


What's the deal with Jerry Blavat? Does this guy not have any normal friends?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Ted
Because Borgesi's beef is with Merlino and Angelina. Aside from Ligambi, everyone else seems to be standing on the sidelines.


Posted By: Tommydesimone44

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 11:24 PM

Sinatraclub call me crazy but I think Scarfo and Blackie Napoli could pass for brothers!?!?!? Ehh?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/06/16 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Ted
Because Borgesi's beef is with Merlino and Angelina. Aside from Ligambi, everyone else seems to be standing on the sidelines.


And Merlino is going to put himself in harms way by inducting a bunch of guys loyal to Borgesi? Dunno. I'd take Scott's articles on recent Philadelphia with a grain of salt.
Posted By: Ted

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 01:54 AM

Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 02:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Ted
Because Borgesi's beef is with Merlino and Angelina. Aside from Ligambi, everyone else seems to be standing on the sidelines.




lol lol lol

Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war.


There's gonna be bodies in the streets!
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 02:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.


Honestly Dave S hasn't been over hyping a war at all. His Mob talks segment about last month, was the first one hes done in quite a while. And he didnt over hype anything, he mentioned four factions on the street, guys being active in real estate and guys coming home. Its the members who interpreted his factions statement as meaning that everyone was against each other. Other than that he was releasing twitter updates, pretty much all of those updates were simply saying when Merlino was in town.


George A yes, but he released about two articles stating anything about a war. Scott has been releasing the same article, just reworded, for about a year now. And thats not singling him out, that's just stating facts. Like I said, I take his recent Philly articles with a grain of salt. People cite his book with Leonetti as to why he'd be more knowledgeable than others, I used to do the same. But ultimately one has to realize Leonettis knowledge of 30+ years ago has little relation to what goes on today.
Posted By: carminezazzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.


Honestly Dave S hasn't been over hyping a war at all. His Mob talks segment about last month, was the first one hes done in quite a while. And he didnt over hype anything, he mentioned four factions on the street, guys being active in real estate and guys coming home. Its the members who interpreted his factions statement as meaning that everyone was against each other. Other than that he was releasing twitter updates, pretty much all of those updates were simply saying when Merlino was in town.


George A yes, but he released about two articles stating anything about a war. Scott has been releasing the same article, just reworded, for about a year now. And thats not singling him out, that's just stating facts. Like I said, I take his recent Philly articles with a grain of salt. People cite his book with Leonetti as to why he'd be more knowledgeable than others, I used to do the same. But ultimately one has to realize Leonettis knowledge of 30+ years ago has little relation to what goes on today.

haha thankyou, finally someone said it. Too many of these snitches from 20-30 years ago on TV talking about the mafia, they have no idea what is going on anymore...stick to your sad lives in protection.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.


They have to, it's the only way they'll get people listening to them.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 05:46 PM

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Georgie’s re-establishing ties in Boston and translating a bunch of relationships and friendships he forged in the can into ties for himself on the outside, guys he can reach out to for stuff, it ain’t no joke, this guy’s making moves all over the place, this is just another power play,” said one source.


I'm not sure how Boston is going to help him.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/07/16 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: mike68
Quote:
Georgie’s re-establishing ties in Boston and translating a bunch of relationships and friendships he forged in the can into ties for himself on the outside, guys he can reach out to for stuff, it ain’t no joke, this guy’s making moves all over the place, this is just another power play,” said one source.


I'm not sure how Boston is going to help him.


Help him with what? There's nothing out there anymore. Don't be surprised if the next indictment is sadder than the Ligambi indictment. Those guys aren't bothering anybody anymore. It's over.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 12:05 AM

Or Missouri for that matter, which I'm assuming is a reference to Kansas City. Nor Ohio, if the guys in Cleveland couldnt keep Carmine Agnello from doing his thing, don't see how they'd be much help in Philadelphia.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
New article from Scott with the latest on The Philly Mob.

Quote:
the GQ Magazine Cover Matinee Idol Joey Merlino
Quote:
the enigmatic, suave, bewildering, beguiling, Joey Merlino.


lol
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 06:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.


the fact that ligambi was made boss again shows that philly is shaky

he's only there to keep the peace because he's the only one respected enough
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 07:57 AM

I don't think Anastasia has been hyping anything. In fact, the running theme for him in recent years has been that the Philadelphia mob is small time and on its last legs.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 11:50 AM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Skinny been back in Florida with a couple AC guys visiting and hanging out at Merlino's and the Geator was in tow !!!!


What's the deal with Jerry Blavat? Does this guy not have any normal friends?



Jerry Blavat Has always gravitated toward the life and guys and gals in it.

He comes from gangsters his father and uncles before him.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 03:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Skinny been back in Florida with a couple AC guys visiting and hanging out at Merlino's and the Geator was in tow !!!!


What's the deal with Jerry Blavat? Does this guy not have any normal friends?



Jerry Blavat Has always gravitated toward the life and guys and gals in it.

He comes from gangsters his father and uncles before him.


Serp is 100% spot on, The Geator is always friends with whoever is heading Philly LCN at the given time. Bruno, Scarfo, Merlino, Ligambi -He has been close with them all, plus I heard he gives the cover charge that he receives at the door to his club to Philly LCN
Posted By: merlino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 03:20 PM

see him riding his bike to the gym over near 3rd and Arch, says hi to everyone and looks in good shape for his age
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/08/16 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.


the fact that ligambi was made boss again shows that philly is shaky

he's only there to keep the peace because he's the only one respected enough



Or perhaps he never stopped being the acting boss in the first place and those reports were inaccurate. The only one who seems to be on shaky ground with the Philly mob is Phil Narducci.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/09/16 04:46 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: Ted
Scott, Dave S and George A have all been over-hyping a potential war. I see no reason to single out or question Scott's reporting anymore than the other two.


the fact that ligambi was made boss again shows that philly is shaky

he's only there to keep the peace because he's the only one respected enough



Or perhaps he never stopped being the acting boss in the first place and those reports were inaccurate. The only one who seems to be on shaky ground with the Philly mob is Phil Narducci.
I second that very much.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/09/16 06:15 PM

I just dont understand why Ligambi cant talk some sense to Narducci. I mean they were made together and also murdered somebody together for christ sake! I have always wondered why I havent heard anything about them two talking together or anything because I figured if Phil dont respect the young guys, Ligambis the acting boss and thought that Phil would atleast have respect for Uncle Joe.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/09/16 07:14 PM

Jealousy maybe HP.

You said it yourself they were made together, killed together. Maybe Ohil thinks he should have the big chair or at least be part of the admin.

Who knows
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/09/16 08:13 PM

I heard Narducci and Ligambi were really close in the 80s. Like previously stated- they were both the shooters in the Frank Flowers hit, they were both made together, and some members (not involved in the life) of both of their families hang out together in 2016 South Philly. I can only guess that maybe it's because Narducci feels that Ligambi is now a Merlino guy and "sided" with Merlino?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/09/16 08:24 PM

Is Phil n off of parole? His brother was violated last summer for being around felons. So maybe he can't go around Joe or the social clubs. Fastest way to get sent back for a year. The brother got out pretty quick for his parole vio. Like 3 months.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/09/16 10:40 PM

http://www.bigtrial.net/2016/03/galati-and-son-take-another-hit.html#more
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/11/16 01:20 AM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Jealousy maybe HP.

You said it yourself they were made together, killed together. Maybe Ohil thinks he should have the big chair or at least be part of the admin.

Who knows
But Sonny,dont u think that phil knows that he should @ least wait some of this out..he's back in the game after 35 yrs..he knows the rules,u cant take the mantle right after re-birth..or can u??we will c.....
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/11/16 02:35 AM

Honestly Hoodlum I think all this "philly on the brink of war"/ four factions talk is exaggerated hype.

Phil could be perfectly happy for all we know.
Posted By: DelcoNostra

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/11/16 02:19 PM

I think Phil has it all right! Why get mixed up in the family and risk getting slammed with a Rico just for committing some low level crimes or having money on the street. He stays to himself, has a little crew/associates handling some action,while he lives decent on some semi-legit income. If I was him, I'd call it a career and start flipping steaks down on passyunk again..
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 09:37 PM

I agree that their is not gonna be a war. I believe they do have different crews now that everyone is out. And not everyone is going to get along. I'm sure not everyone in TNT gsmbinos like eachother. A football team can win the bowl without all liking each other. And in sure some guys have their own personal reasons for their dislike. Some may makeup lime a joey and georgie and some may not. Narducci had his orobkems and grand had his but i think joey and uncle Joe and Chang have done a good job of keeping the peace and appeasing people when they can. It could change but I doubt your gonna see a "war". Its to risky and not as beneficial these days. That's my take. I do have a question if anyone can help. Is Grande living in north jersey? Or just reports to scoops "on the books". Cause I haven't seen or heard a thing about him in south Philly same way I don't hear anything about anyone in that crew besides the info we all get
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 09:51 PM

There is more chance of a Scott Burnstein article not referring to Joey Merlino as handsome and suave than there is of a mob war happening in Philadelphia.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:02 PM

I thought I'd seperate this post. Joey was out last night. Even at the after hours club "Broadway" that sonny runs. Its a bar, not a club. Some nights its packed and others not as much.But mob guys are never hAnging in there. But its ok if you can put up with sonnyss mug bartending. He will have a girl work with him but hes out there handing out beers. Never gives away a drink unless they are a "somebody" and hes there collecting tips from the neighborhood.Anyway, back to joey. He was out with his friends till real late. I wonder how they track him everywhere cause hes always on the move and south Philly its hard to hide. You can barely find a parking spot and so many noose bags seeing what's going on ha
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
There is more chance of a Scott Burnstein article not referring to Joey Merlino as handsome and suave than there is of a mob war happening in Philadelphia.


You got that right. The Philly mob is almost nonexistent. It's gonna be difficult to prove a RICO case at this point.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:07 PM

Originally Posted By: spmob
I thought I'd seoerate tins post. Joey was out last night. Even at the after hours club "Broadway" that sonny runs. Its a bar, nit a club. So e nights its packed and others not as much but its ok if you can put up witn sonnyss mug bartending. He will have a girl work witn him but his out there handing out beers. Never gives away a drink u less they are a "somebody" and hes there collecting tips Lola.Anyway, back to joey. He was out with his friends till real late. I wonder how they track him everywhere cause hes always on ten move and south Philly its hard to hide. You can barely find a parking spot and so many noose bags seeing what's going on ha


Joey was out last night lol..This is the news we get from Philly these days. Did Joey get laid too?
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:14 PM

Cause its never been discussed before? And Im not sure if your aware but this is a forum, not a newspaper. So when the boss of the family is out all night especially at a hole in the wall after hours bar, others may be interested. If your not, don't read it and try to get your own Dick wet
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

You got that right. The Philly mob is almost nonexistent. It's gonna be difficult to prove a RICO case at this point.


I wouldn't go that far. It still has a functioning hierarchy and there's been plenty of cases over the past 15 years to show ongoing activity. And it seems like they always have plenty of young guys waiting to get made. But juries, who come in with movie-influenced expectations about murders (which there have been some), get bored and almost disappointed when it's just bookmaking or video poker machines.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By: spmob
Cause its never been discussed before? And Im not sure if your aware but this is a forum, not a newspaper. So when the boss of the family is out all night especially at a hole in the wall after hours bar, others may be interested. If your not, don't read it and try to get your own Dick wet


I'm not trying to start anything, but Joey loves to party. It's not news. If it's news to you, I'm sorry. Deeply.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
There is more chance of a Scott Burnstein article not referring to Joey Merlino as handsome and suave than there is of a mob war happening in Philadelphia.


You got that right. The Philly mob is almost nonexistent. It's gonna be difficult to prove a RICO case at this point.



The Philly Mob isn't "almost nonexistent". There just is a low probability of a mob war occurring there in the foreseeable future. There's a difference.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
There is more chance of a Scott Burnstein article not referring to Joey Merlino as handsome and suave than there is of a mob war happening in Philadelphia.


You got that right. The Philly mob is almost nonexistent. It's gonna be difficult to prove a RICO case at this point.



The Philly Mob isn't "almost nonexistent". There just is a low probability of a mob war occurring there in the foreseeable future. There's a difference.


The reason why there's no war is because there's nothing to fight over. What are you gonna fight over? A book? Come on. This is a joke. Besides, most of these guys are legitimate today. They couldn't even get Ligambi after 12 years of trying. You think that's because he's a master criminal? That indictment was an insult to organized crime. Meyer Lansky must be spinning.
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:32 PM

Philly has actually grown over the last decade so your far off. nObody is comparing them to NY but they are riant behind the 5 families at this poithis
All I said is that there isn't going to be a war and I think the drama of 4 factions is a lot of hype. And no need to be sorry. Joey was a big partier in the 90s. Going to restaurants and an occasional club in the summer is not partying. This past summer is the most anyone saw him out. And hes the boss hanging in a hole in the wall...that's not usual. I think your mindset of what's going on in Philly is about 10 years old. You don't see joey in the spotlight AS MUCH as before. And again, this a forum. You act like every topic discussed is breaking news. Turn on CNN and stop breaking balls, horribly by the way, on a mob forum,
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:36 PM

Did you read anything when that trial went on? Ligambi actually brought in new money. Nobody is saying they are making a ton of money. At least the smarter ones are using their money to get into legit shit. Instead of talking shit that you don't know about, go read the trial transcriots or ten news articles if your gonna contradict everyone
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:40 PM

Meyerlansky? Really? You really are living in the past. The mob is not the same anywhere. Never will be. It seems lime you have a hard on for these guys. Why do you care so much if try are making no money or good money. People obviously like to read about the Philly family. No need to get upset and make comments that have no place in the conversation
Posted By: spmob

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:42 PM

Sorry for typos guys Im on my phone
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 10:49 PM

Originally Posted By: spmob
Did you read anything when that trial went on? Ligambi actually brought in new money. Nobody is saying they are making a ton of money. At least the smarter ones are using their money to get into legit shit. Instead of talking shit that you don't know about, go read the trial transcriots or ten news articles if your gonna contradict everyone


I did read the trial transcripts and I cringed several times. They were charged with crimes that aren't even crimes. How many bar owners have video poker machines these days? No one gives a fuck. The only reason they went after these guys is because it had the LCN stamp on it. Looks good on a prosecutor's resume. It's an absolute joke. The jurors see it. I see it. You don't. Again, I'm sorry.

And no I'm not breaking balls. It's a fucking opinion. Fucking deal with it.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/12/16 11:59 PM

Fro. What I read that guy Phil nard. Was in the last group scarfo made in late 86 so he's gets taken off the street in Jan 1987 that's a short month an a week having his button. Joe merlino was made in 91 by stanfa so I don't see what the big deal is. There the same age so who knows if they don't get along. I bet that guy Phil is still on parole and can't be around these other guys.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 12:57 AM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
There is more chance of a Scott Burnstein article not referring to Joey Merlino as handsome and suave than there is of a mob war happening in Philadelphia.


You got that right. The Philly mob is almost nonexistent. It's gonna be difficult to prove a RICO case at this point.



The Philly Mob isn't "almost nonexistent". There just is a low probability of a mob war occurring there in the foreseeable future. There's a difference.


The reason why there's no war is because there's nothing to fight over. What are you gonna fight over? A book? Come on. This is a joke. Besides, most of these guys are legitimate today. They couldn't even get Ligambi after 12 years of trying. You think that's because he's a master criminal? That indictment was an insult to organized crime. Meyer Lansky must be spinning.


got to disagree here I agree the family really is a shadow of its self and is dysfunctional

but there Is a lot of everdince which contradicts what your saying.

Why would ligambi stanio joey scoops and lou fazzi dong meeting the entire Gambino admisnstration john Gambino alphonese T bobby v (danny m was supposed to be there but he got busted before the meeting) be doing meeting with these guys if the philly mob had nothing. Don't say it was old friends getting together alphonese was based in queens what would he be doing meeting these guys if they were a joke remember guys like alphonese were earning millions.

You can even hear the tapes they are claiming they are having problems over terriorty with the luchese family and decavalanctes that shows they have something going on

plus those poker machines they were big from that 30 40k a week
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 01:58 AM

And those poker machines are illegal if the business owner is paying out money and the players aren't just playing for points/recreation.
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 03:56 AM

Originally Posted By: spmob
I thought I'd seperate this post. Joey was out last night. Even at the after hours club "Broadway" that sonny runs.
where is the location? I used to bounce at his old club libations. Is his partner Johnny Fish with him at this club?
Posted By: Tommydesimone44

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 04:18 AM

Not a big poster but I love all the info from everyone, but to say the Philly mob is a shadow of itself is wrong.. Just look at this gangsterbb, they have the way most topics about them by far.. They must be doing something right
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 05:08 AM

The Rakph Cifaretto of this forum is about as annoying a the one on the Soprano...

touche'
Posted By: mackinblack007

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 06:18 AM

Is Scarfo considered shelved?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Tommydesimone44
Not a big poster but I love all the info from everyone, but to say the Philly mob is a shadow of itself is wrong.. Just look at this gangsterbb, they have the way most topics about them by far.. They must be doing something right


The Genovese are doing something right because they are low-key. Criminals are not supposed to draw attention to themselves, like all the dwarves in Philly.

That's why people talk about them.

They are like the Jeremy Kyle/Jerry Springer Show of OC.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Tommydesimone44
Not a big poster but I love all the info from everyone, but to say the Philly mob is a shadow of itself is wrong.. Just look at this gangsterbb, they have the way most topics about them by far.. They must be doing something right


The Genovese are doing something right because they are low-key. Criminals are not supposed to draw attention to themselves, like all the dwarves in Philly.

That's why people talk about them.

They are like the Jeremy Kyle/Jerry Springer Show of OC.



Got that right !!
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/13/16 07:51 PM

[quote=spmob]I thought I'd seperate this post. Joey was out last night.
[/quote) I think they were out celebrating his birthday.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 04:37 AM

FBI Launches Major Probe Into Philadelphia Mob


The FBI has tripled the size of its squad in Philadelphia and has brought in a well-seasoned supervisory agent from New York to oversee what appears to be the formation of a new Organized Crime Strike Force, reliable sources have told Cosa Nostra News.

One of the operation's key goals is reportedly to nail Philadelphia Cosa Nostra boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and his top associates for three unsolved gangland hits in the city. Those murders were committed while Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, reputed official boss, and former consiglieri/Ligambi nephew George Borgesi were in prison.

The Fed's also are aggressively investigating a mobster considered Ligambi's chief shooter from back when "Uncle Joe" was tasked with holding together a badly battered and fractured Cosa Nostra family. That was the backdrop against which the three murders, now intensely being scrutinized, were committed.

That shooter is reputed Philadelphia captain Michael "Mikey Lance" Lancelotti, 51, who reportedly now assists in the running of the family's daily operations after recovering from cancer. Lance was a shooter, likely for both Merlino and Ligambi.

Lancelotti "never came up in any of the major RICO trials that put lots of guys away, " a source told CNN.

Merlino inducted Mikey Lance in the 1990s, bolstering Merlino and Stevie Mazzone's efforts to win the family war with Sicilian-born boss John Stanfa, who is now serving life for racketeering and murder.

Gangster Report noted that it was told by a retired FBI agent that, “We heard Lance was possibly one of the shooters in the Joey Chang hit and Merlino planned it and was in a car nearby monitoring things."

Ligambi, when he rose to acting boss after Merlino went away, created a tight-knit inner circle that included longtime Philadelphia mobsters such as Joseph Massimino, Gaeton Lucibello, and Lancelotti.

The three hits said to be part of a larger probe into the re-surging Philadelphia crime family are John "Johnny Gongs" Casasanto, a young mob soldier who couldn't keep it in his pants and was reportedly seeking to join New York's Gambino crime family; Ronnie Turchi, hit in 1999; and Raymond “Long John” Martorano, who was whacked in 2002.

Members of organized crime in Philadelphia have indeed kept law enforcement busy in recent months, as reported.

Federal, state and local law enforcement entities are indeed surveilling mobsters as they move in and out of the new social club on 11th and Jackson. They are monitoring the group's moves into Philadelphia's booming home building/home renovation business, which has fueled the vibrant construction work seen across the city.

Ligambi is back in harness, serving as acting boss, with Stevie Mazzone reportedly serving as underboss.

Beneath the seemingly tranquil surface there may be as many as four factions vying for control, with the very visible and very active Borgesi making moves all over the place.

Today, the crime family has about 30 to 40 members on the street; plus several new members, who were recently inducted. The Philly mob hasn't been this large since the bloody days of Nicky Scarfo's reign.

The FBI's Philadelphia organized crime squad was enlarged from around 3 to 4 agents, to 12, and a veteran supervisor was brought in from New York. Sources wouldn't identify him for non-disclosed reasons, but another source said the agent is believed to be a former head of the Gambino squad.

This enlargement of the FBI unit to monitor the Philadelphia Cosa Nostra clan, which interestingly hasn't been named after a boss since the violent Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo era is likely part of a new Organized Crime Task Force that would include state and local law enforcement agencies, as well, sources said.

This follows a few moves made by elements of the Philadelphia-based Cosa Nostra clan that raised the Mafia family's profile in both media reports as well as media reports. The Philadelphia mob recently opened up a social club and also inducted five new members last October. News of the ceremony was quickly leaked to the media.

"Borgesi is in full-throttle," said one source, noting that he's been very visible lately, visiting the club on 11th and Jackson Streets. He's also been holding meetings there supposedly with gangsters from other regions of the country.

"Uncle Joe" has been seen going to the club less frequently.

Still, all of them are under major surveillance, sources said, with one noting, "The Feds are watching them like a hawk."

Cosa Nostra Clan Made Five

Among the newly initiated members of the crime family (two appear specifically to have been put forth by Borgesi, sources told Cosa Nostra News) are:

George Borgesi's younger brother, Anthony;

Steven "Handsome Stevie" Mazzone's brother, Salvatore "Sonny" Mazzone;

David "Dave" Salvo, one of two brothers who served as Borgesi's emissaries while he was on parole (David also allegedly was Ligambi's driver for a time, earlier in "Uncle Joe's" tenure as boss);

Anthony Accardo, a violent associate who was one of about a dozen local mobsters indicted in 2000 on a slew of racketeering charges.

Accardo pleaded guilty but refused to testify against reputed mob boss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino and other mob members.

This is likely a key reason he got his button. As prosecutors said at the time, Accardo had bolstered his street cred exponentially and is now viewed by area gangsters as "a stand-up guy."

"He will be in a perfect position to step right back into these criminal actions" when he gets out of prison, the prosecutor predicted.

Ligambi, 72, is known as the peaceful Don who cooled down flaring tempers and stabilized a crime family riven by decades of strife and rampant violence that began with the spectacular shotgun murder of Angelo Bruno in 1980 and continued on through the regimes of Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo, John Stanfa, and Ralph Natale, then Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, who, along with the family's young turks, had fought an open war against boss Stanfa for control. (Natale has been described as a front boss for Merlino when Merlino went off to prison.)

Ligambi, part of the Scarfo gang, also had ties to Merlino's father and showed he had the chops to be boss and keep the family together. Ligambi gets kudos (ironically from both law enforcement and the Five Families) for stabilizing the troubled Philadelphia-South Jersey branch of the American Cosa Nostra, thereby ending the violence.

He also revived the crime family, which was close to extinction.

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2016/03/fbi-debuts-new-probe-into-philadelphia.html?m=1
Posted By: carminezazzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 05:46 AM

IT was never close to extinction, there is too many young italians in philly. Someone is always going to rebirth it, thats why i dont see the mafia dying out of new york, philly or jersey for a very long time.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 11:32 AM

Some of that news is old and was first told to Skinny last year when his lawyer Eddie went to see him with the info..

They really want to make head lines with these top five guys .maybe we will get a good break down of what has been what the last decade or so .
Posted By: mike68

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 04:11 PM

I don't think I ever read or heard that Lancelotti was a 'chief shooter' for Ligambi. I don't think I ever read or heard his name linked to the Gongs, Martarano hits?? Is this accurate?

Quote:
The Fed's also are aggressively investigating a mobster considered Ligambi's chief shooter from back when "Uncle Joe" was tasked with holding together a badly battered and fractured Cosa Nostra family. That was the backdrop against which the three murders, now intensely being scrutinized, were committed.


Quote:
That shooter is reputed Philadelphia captain Michael "Mikey Lance" Lancelotti, 51, who reportedly now assists in the running of the family's daily operations after recovering from cancer. Lance was a shooter, likely for both Merlino and Ligambi.
Posted By: Crash

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 06:28 PM

Lancelotti had cancer? Which kind?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Crash
Lancelotti had cancer? Which kind?


Ass cancer.





I'll get my coat.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 10:31 PM

Keep reading about the family inducting 5 new guys. I would guess there's probably more. They can induct guys any time any where. You don't think merlino made some guys down Florida or jersey. Reading about the Colombo family in the late 80tys there would be inductions every month 1 2 guys every 2 weeks. I bet today they have more made guys on the street since scarfo was boss. Good or bad.
Posted By: ShotgunTheRifle

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 11:21 PM

A molotov cocktail was attempted to be thrown threw a South Philly window this morning. Doesn't mention any mob ties. But figure worth mentioning. The house was on Beachwood, right off of Wolf St.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/15/16 11:58 PM

Merlino been off parole 2 3 yrs probably made a dozen.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
FBI Launches Major Probe Into Philadelphia Mob


The FBI has tripled the size of its squad in Philadelphia and has brought in a well-seasoned supervisory agent from New York to oversee what appears to be the formation of a new Organized Crime Strike Force, reliable sources have told Cosa Nostra News.

One of the operation's key goals is reportedly to nail Philadelphia Cosa Nostra boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and his top associates for three unsolved gangland hits in the city. Those murders were committed while Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, reputed official boss, and former consiglieri/Ligambi nephew George Borgesi were in prison.

The Fed's also are aggressively investigating a mobster considered Ligambi's chief shooter from back when "Uncle Joe" was tasked with holding together a badly battered and fractured Cosa Nostra family. That was the backdrop against which the three murders, now intensely being scrutinized, were committed.

That shooter is reputed Philadelphia captain Michael "Mikey Lance" Lancelotti, 51, who reportedly now assists in the running of the family's daily operations after recovering from cancer. Lance was a shooter, likely for both Merlino and Ligambi.

Lancelotti "never came up in any of the major RICO trials that put lots of guys away, " a source told CNN.

Merlino inducted Mikey Lance in the 1990s, bolstering Merlino and Stevie Mazzone's efforts to win the family war with Sicilian-born boss John Stanfa, who is now serving life for racketeering and murder.

Gangster Report noted that it was told by a retired FBI agent that, “We heard Lance was possibly one of the shooters in the Joey Chang hit and Merlino planned it and was in a car nearby monitoring things."

Ligambi, when he rose to acting boss after Merlino went away, created a tight-knit inner circle that included longtime Philadelphia mobsters such as Joseph Massimino, Gaeton Lucibello, and Lancelotti.

The three hits said to be part of a larger probe into the re-surging Philadelphia crime family are John "Johnny Gongs" Casasanto, a young mob soldier who couldn't keep it in his pants and was reportedly seeking to join New York's Gambino crime family; Ronnie Turchi, hit in 1999; and Raymond “Long John” Martorano, who was whacked in 2002.

Members of organized crime in Philadelphia have indeed kept law enforcement busy in recent months, as reported.

Federal, state and local law enforcement entities are indeed surveilling mobsters as they move in and out of the new social club on 11th and Jackson. They are monitoring the group's moves into Philadelphia's booming home building/home renovation business, which has fueled the vibrant construction work seen across the city.

Ligambi is back in harness, serving as acting boss, with Stevie Mazzone reportedly serving as underboss.

Beneath the seemingly tranquil surface there may be as many as four factions vying for control, with the very visible and very active Borgesi making moves all over the place.

Today, the crime family has about 30 to 40 members on the street; plus several new members, who were recently inducted. The Philly mob hasn't been this large since the bloody days of Nicky Scarfo's reign.

The FBI's Philadelphia organized crime squad was enlarged from around 3 to 4 agents, to 12, and a veteran supervisor was brought in from New York. Sources wouldn't identify him for non-disclosed reasons, but another source said the agent is believed to be a former head of the Gambino squad.

This enlargement of the FBI unit to monitor the Philadelphia Cosa Nostra clan, which interestingly hasn't been named after a boss since the violent Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo era is likely part of a new Organized Crime Task Force that would include state and local law enforcement agencies, as well, sources said.

This follows a few moves made by elements of the Philadelphia-based Cosa Nostra clan that raised the Mafia family's profile in both media reports as well as media reports. The Philadelphia mob recently opened up a social club and also inducted five new members last October. News of the ceremony was quickly leaked to the media.

"Borgesi is in full-throttle," said one source, noting that he's been very visible lately, visiting the club on 11th and Jackson Streets. He's also been holding meetings there supposedly with gangsters from other regions of the country.

"Uncle Joe" has been seen going to the club less frequently.

Still, all of them are under major surveillance, sources said, with one noting, "The Feds are watching them like a hawk."

Cosa Nostra Clan Made Five

Among the newly initiated members of the crime family (two appear specifically to have been put forth by Borgesi, sources told Cosa Nostra News) are:

George Borgesi's younger brother, Anthony;

Steven "Handsome Stevie" Mazzone's brother, Salvatore "Sonny" Mazzone;

David "Dave" Salvo, one of two brothers who served as Borgesi's emissaries while he was on parole (David also allegedly was Ligambi's driver for a time, earlier in "Uncle Joe's" tenure as boss);

Anthony Accardo, a violent associate who was one of about a dozen local mobsters indicted in 2000 on a slew of racketeering charges.

Accardo pleaded guilty but refused to testify against reputed mob boss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino and other mob members.

This is likely a key reason he got his button. As prosecutors said at the time, Accardo had bolstered his street cred exponentially and is now viewed by area gangsters as "a stand-up guy."

"He will be in a perfect position to step right back into these criminal actions" when he gets out of prison, the prosecutor predicted.

Ligambi, 72, is known as the peaceful Don who cooled down flaring tempers and stabilized a crime family riven by decades of strife and rampant violence that began with the spectacular shotgun murder of Angelo Bruno in 1980 and continued on through the regimes of Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo, John Stanfa, and Ralph Natale, then Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, who, along with the family's young turks, had fought an open war against boss Stanfa for control. (Natale has been described as a front boss for Merlino when Merlino went off to prison.)

Ligambi, part of the Scarfo gang, also had ties to Merlino's father and showed he had the chops to be boss and keep the family together. Ligambi gets kudos (ironically from both law enforcement and the Five Families) for stabilizing the troubled Philadelphia-South Jersey branch of the American Cosa Nostra, thereby ending the violence.

He also revived the crime family, which was close to extinction.

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2016/03/fbi-debuts-new-probe-into-philadelphia.html?m=1


Yeah Ivy, I saw this also but didnt feel it was worthy of being posted since I did not see it backed up by anyone I consider credible since this guy has posted multiple bullshit stories.

Now it very well could be true, but I am skeptical due to his track record.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 03:14 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Keep reading about the family inducting 5 new guys. I would guess there's probably more. They can induct guys any time any where. You don't think merlino made some guys down Florida or jersey. Reading about the Colombo family in the late 80tys there would be inductions every month 1 2 guys every 2 weeks. I bet today they have more made guys on the street since scarfo was boss. Good or bad.



Don't know if he can make guys by himself like that. I mean he very well could, but guys he's wanted inducted were supposedly inducted in Philly ceremonies when he first came home, so... But it may have been proven by some of the names of the suspected new made guys. Guys like Anthony Accardo are guys Merlino probably would have pushed to be inducted. There are a few others like that as well, which goes to show the guys Joey want inducted are still in South Philly and are inducted in South Philly.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 04:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Crash
Lancelotti had cancer? Which kind?


Ass cancer.





I'll get my coat.


lol

Sometimes moe you fucking kill me.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 04:11 AM

I imagine Philly has to run prospects by NYC.

Anyone know what Philly's cap is?

60?

100?
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 04:39 AM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
I imagine Philly has to run prospects by NYC.

Anyone know what Philly's cap is?

60?

100?


Also lot closer to 60 than 100, I'm sure. I don't think they'd hit either though. I've read they were at around 70 at their peak. Seems 50 or so have been the norm in more recent years.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: pmac
Keep reading about the family inducting 5 new guys. I would guess there's probably more. They can induct guys any time any where. You don't think merlino made some guys down Florida or jersey. Reading about the Colombo family in the late 80tys there would be inductions every month 1 2 guys every 2 weeks. I bet today they have more made guys on the street since scarfo was boss. Good or bad.



Don't know if he can make guys by himself like that. I mean he very well could, but guys he's wanted inducted were supposedly inducted in Philly ceremonies when he first came home, so... But it may have been proven by some of the names of the suspected new made guys. Guys like Anthony Accardo are guys Merlino probably would have pushed to be inducted. There are a few others like that as well, which goes to show the guys Joey want inducted are still in South Philly and are inducted in South Philly.


Merlino plays outside the rules...I really doubt he would have any issue with going over a cap limit set by NY.

Hell, even in NY they were skirting the rules when it came to made members. Making guys during the ban on new made guys...having guys made in NJ then transferring...and also not waiting for a member to die before another is made.

So, I don't think its too far fetched to assume Merlino wouldn't care about that.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 12:12 PM

Thx Ivy.

Good point Blackjack, although they are generally exceptions to the rule. NY still has 'rules' and 'caps' it generally adheres too.
I doubt NY are capping Philly, do we know if they have to run prospects by NYC?
Posted By: NickyWhip

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 01:30 PM

So freaking funny.


Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Crash
Lancelotti had cancer? Which kind?


Ass cancer.





I'll get my coat.


lol

Sometimes moe you fucking kill me.
Posted By: Sosueme

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 06:23 PM

Ivy spot on with the 60 figure..at the end of the scarco era when the sentences came down in 89 for the Rico case.. The family had excluding those that cooperated 51 soldiers with Harry riccobene and mr miggs pollina counted among them . Four capos and the administration. So just about 58 at the time . I am not counting active or retired just total button men beside those that cooperated . So the total amount would have been with the witnesses around 63
Posted By: Sosueme

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/16/16 06:30 PM

By 1990 there was 31 so called active members on the street. Many as you know well up in age. With s median age of around 69 with guys like happy Bellina Joseph lanciano and Joseph piccolo all in there 80s
Posted By: dave213

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/17/16 10:57 AM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...amp;oe=574FB33B

Curious about this photo. Anybody recognize any of them besides Sonny and Anthony Mazzone?
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/17/16 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: dave213
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...amp;oe=574FB33B

Curious about this photo. Anybody recognize any of them besides Sonny and Anthony Mazzone?


Guy on the left is Kim Kardashian's father. Second from left is Jonah Hill. Guys in the middle are Bob Barker and his Puerto Rican toyboy Benicio. Guy on the right is Lennie from Of Mice and Men.

I don't know who the guy second from right is, but going by the hair it's either Ed Harris or Joe Pantoliano.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/17/16 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: dave213
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...amp;oe=574FB33B

Curious about this photo. Anybody recognize any of them besides Sonny and Anthony Mazzone?


Guy on the left is Kim Kardashian's father. Second from left is Jonah Hill. Guys in the middle are Bob Barker and his Puerto Rican toyboy Benicio. Guy on the right is Lennie from Of Mice and Men.

I don't know who the guy second from right is, but going by the hair it's either Ed Harris or Joe Pantoliano.


Wow. A lot of celebrities. I wish I knew a celebrity. Thx Moe
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/17/16 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: dave213
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...amp;oe=574FB33B

Curious about this photo. Anybody recognize any of them besides Sonny and Anthony Mazzone?


Guy on the left is Kim Kardashian's father. Second from left is Jonah Hill. Guys in the middle are Bob Barker and his Puerto Rican toyboy Benicio. Guy on the right is Lennie from Of Mice and Men.

I don't know who the guy second from right is, but going by the hair it's either Ed Harris or Joe Pantoliano.



hahhaha
Posted By: majicrat

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/17/16 01:47 PM

Seems to me with all the talk of the family rebuilding and strengthening in the Philadelphia area the families interests in the southern and northern ends of New Jersey would also increase. What is the status of "Scoops" crew in Newark? Is it prevalent in Essex County alone? The city of Newark? Do they still have social clubs in the county? Rumors have always been the "Spilingese Social" club on Adams Street is a family club. Thoughts? Who's in the crew? Beeps? Nicky O? Thanks.
Posted By: EVL

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/18/16 05:50 PM

Quote:
Yeah Ivy, I saw this also but didnt feel it was worthy of being posted since I did not see it backed up by anyone I consider credible since this guy has posted multiple bullshit stories.

Now it very well could be true, but I am skeptical due to his track record.


Greetings and salutations, all. Was trying to find info on the guy assaulted in prison over Mob Wives and I happened upon this... I am curious what stories I wrote that were bullshit.

I am not posting here to defend myself -- but someone here says I have written "multiple bullshit" stories... Now I sincerely believe "Our critics are our friends." I wrote quite a few breaking-news stories that proved to be accurate. I wasn't going to list them here, but I will add one link: http://www.cosanostranews.com/p/exclusives.html

Go toward bottom, where it says Cosa Nostra News Exclusives....

I'd appreciate knowing what you refer to as multiple bullshit is all....

Sincerely,

Ed Scarpo
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 10:27 AM

http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


This asswipe obviously has no pretensions about being taken seriously as a writer.

He's probably furiously busting a nut to pictures of Joey Merlino's abs on Instagram as we speak.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


This asswipe obviously has no pretensions about being taken seriously as a writer.

He's probably furiously busting a nut to pictures of Joey Merlino's abs on Instagram as we speak.


Hahahha
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 03:51 PM

Phil Narducci doesn't have a "faction".
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: EVL
Quote:
Yeah Ivy, I saw this also but didnt feel it was worthy of being posted since I did not see it backed up by anyone I consider credible since this guy has posted multiple bullshit stories.

Now it very well could be true, but I am skeptical due to his track record.


Greetings and salutations, all. Was trying to find info on the guy assaulted in prison over Mob Wives and I happened upon this... I am curious what stories I wrote that were bullshit.

I am not posting here to defend myself -- but someone here says I have written "multiple bullshit" stories... Now I sincerely believe "Our critics are our friends." I wrote quite a few breaking-news stories that proved to be accurate. I wasn't going to list them here, but I will add one link: http://www.cosanostranews.com/p/exclusives.html

Go toward bottom, where it says Cosa Nostra News Exclusives....

I'd appreciate knowing what you refer to as multiple bullshit is all....

Sincerely,

Ed Scarpo



Just about everything you write on that page of yours is bullshit. And that Lufthansa bullshit with Dominick Cicale just tops them all lmao
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 11:09 PM

Lol. Nice to have such an esteemed author here with us, Mr. Ed Lieberman.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
Originally Posted By: EVL
Quote:
Yeah Ivy, I saw this also but didnt feel it was worthy of being posted since I did not see it backed up by anyone I consider credible since this guy has posted multiple bullshit stories.

Now it very well could be true, but I am skeptical due to his track record.


Greetings and salutations, all. Was trying to find info on the guy assaulted in prison over Mob Wives and I happened upon this... I am curious what stories I wrote that were bullshit.

I am not posting here to defend myself -- but someone here says I have written "multiple bullshit" stories... Now I sincerely believe "Our critics are our friends." I wrote quite a few breaking-news stories that proved to be accurate. I wasn't going to list them here, but I will add one link: http://www.cosanostranews.com/p/exclusives.html

Go toward bottom, where it says Cosa Nostra News Exclusives....

I'd appreciate knowing what you refer to as multiple bullshit is all....

Sincerely,

Ed Scarpo



Just about everything you write on that page of yours is bullshit. And that Lufthansa bullshit with Dominick Cicale just tops them all lmao


lol...that's one of them. I am sure there were a few other Cicale related errors as well.

Also...an age dispute with PB about Barney or someone I believe it was..as well as several other Bronx disputes.

Not gonna get into anymore specifics...partially because I don't remember them all honestly...and partially because I am not trying to stir up a big back and forth.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/19/16 11:51 PM

Speaking of Cicale,,he went from popping up all over the net...to disappearing after it came out he was trying to extort Bascianos family by giving them hope and saying he would say some shit to get Vinny off just to get money from them cuz he is too much of a bum to earn his own money in the legitimate world.

That shit he tried to pull on that family was really the lowest of the low.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 02:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Speaking of Cicale,,he went from popping up all over the net...to disappearing after it came out he was trying to extort Bascianos family by giving them hope and saying he would say some shit to get Vinny off just to get money from them cuz he is too much of a bum to earn his own money in the legitimate world.

That shit he tried to pull on that family was really the lowest of the low.


fucking disgusting funny how this guy tried to make cicale out to be this credible guy and then he gets caught goes all quiet here is old gangland article

this is why no one takes him seriously even real mob reporters look down at him




This Week in Gang Land
By Jerry Capeci

Mob Turncoat Who Sent Vinny Gorgeous Away For Life Allegedly Extorted Basciano Family For 200K

Gang Land Exclusive. Turncoat wiseguy Dominick Cicale, who bragged that he put "the nail in the coffin" of his imprisoned-for-life former mob superior, Vincent (Vinny Gorgeous) Basciano, also had another slick move for his old pal's family: He tried to extort $200,000 from them last summer, according to information that a private investigator provided the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office.

Cicale, a murderous drug dealer who described himself last year in a letter to a federal judge as an "extremely talented author, singer and inspirational speaker," has never been short on boastful, arrogance. The former Bonanno capo has written a fanciful book in which he crows about his prowess as a businessman, a gangster, and a mob turncoat. You can hear some of his same boasts on YouTube.

But Cicale kept his dealings with Basciano's family on the down low, apparently. The alleged shakedown of Basciano's wife Angela and her sons came one month after Cicale sent a letter to a federal judge proposing leniency for Joseph Basciano for a marijuana drug rap, according to court papers obtained by Gang Land.

"It was a complete scam," said private investigator James Dowd, who told Gang Land that Cicale offered to provide the Bascianos a "get out of jail" card for Vinny Gorgeous. "He has no information that could help Vinny; he was just trying to get money out of the Bascianos," said Dowd.

Cicale put the scam into motion at 9 AM last August 9 when he called Frank (Frankie The Florist) Villano, a longtime Basciano family friend at a flower shop he operated in the Throgs Neck section of the Bronx. Cicale told Villano he had some important info for the Bascianos and asked him to get one of the Basciano brothers to his store by noon so he could speak to him.

Joseph Basciano was at Frankie The Florist's flower shop on East Tremont Avenue when Cicale called at noon. Villano gave the phone to Basciano, according to an affidavit by the florist. "After a brief conversation," Villano wrote, "Joe hung up on him," but Cicale immediately called back and told Villano, "I know he's still standing there with you so tell him I'm willing to help his dad get a new trial."

Cicale, 46, testified three times against Basciano, who was convicted of racketeering or murder at three trials and is currently serving life at the Supermax federal prison in Florence, Colorado. As his reward, Cicale, who admitted taking part in two murders with Basciano, got 10 years in prison. He was released in 2013.

"Cicale then said that he would call me back later in the evening," wrote Villano, adding that when the mob defector did, he spelled out his demands to Frankie The Florist.

Some of Cicale's calls were tape-recorded, according to sources.

"I can guarantee his father a new trial," Cicale said, according to the affidavit. "I spoke with my lawyers, and although they told me not to do it, I think it's the right thing to do," Cicale said, Villano wrote, stating that Cicale "went on to say he testified against his father because as a cooperator, the Government instructed him what to say."

"Cicale then stated, 'I want to be compensated for this because I'm risking everything. I want $200,000, with $70,000 up front and delivered to my mom tomorrow. As soon as my mom gets the money, I'll go to my lawyers and get the ball rolling. After that, we'll work the rest out,'" Villano wrote.

In the affidavit, Villano wrote that Cicale said he "never thought" he would ever have to take the stand against Vinny Gorgeous "because I thought he would take a plea deal. But instead (he) went to trial" and "put me in the position to be a cooperator."

Early the next morning, Cicale called Villano on his cell phone, and rejected a suggestion to discuss the matter with Vincent Basciano Jr., who, like his brother Joseph, had pleaded guilty to marijuana trafficking charges, but was free on bail at the time. Cicale stated, "There's nothing to talk about, so if my mom doesn't get the money, I have the answer," Villano wrote.

All told, Villano wrote in a September 30, 2014 affidavit, he spoke to Cicale a total of five or six times — all in calls from a phone with a blocked telephone number — regarding his stated plan to help Vinny Gorgeous overturn convictions that include two life sentences.

In a companion affidavit, Joseph Basciano, who most likely was suspicious of Cicale from the get go, wrote about the brief conversation he had with the mob turncoat before he angrily hung up on him. Cicale said, "I have some information that could benefit your dad," but then quickly, and inexplicably added, "last winter you found some money in the snow."

"At this point," wrote Basciano, "I stopped him and said, 'I never found any money in the snow,' and hung up on him. I know this was Dominick Cicale because I know his voice and have known him for many years."

In early October, Dowd, who told Gang Land that he agreed to look into Cicale's "extortion scam" and prepare affidavits for Villano and Joseph Basciano after Vincent Jr. contacted him about it, submitted a two page affidavit by Villano to the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office because the alleged crime took place in the Bronx, where the Bascianos reside.

Preparing the Joseph Basciano affidavit took a lot longer, said Dowd. That's because Basciano began serving a six-month prison term at the Metropolitan Correctional Center a few days after he spoke to Cicale and Dowd wasn't able to have it signed and notarized until January 22.

Last year, Cicale co-authored a book, Cosa Nostra News: The Cicale Files. The book was a little short on real facts, however, regarding a March 1999 mob murder that occurred while he was in prison, months before he met Vinny Gorgeous. Next month, the claim is that Cicale will disclose "never-been-told-before details" about the "missing money" from the storied 1978 Lufthansa Airlines heist in a new book.

In yet another remarkably ballsy move, Cicale has moved back to the Bronx, a decision announced in January of last year in a quickie YouTube bit as he stood with the elevated #6 line that runs on Westchester Avenue in the background. He followed that in May with a longer YouTube rap in which he boasts of rubbing elbows with "mayors, senators and bank presidents" (all unnamed) as he made $10 million in four years after getting out of prison in late 1999.

"I changed with the times," is the song that singer Cicale croons on YouTube. "That's why I cooperated. All the dinosaurs are going to die in jail. I chose a different path to rebuild myself. To rebuild my brand. To come out there and do good."

Assistant U.S attorney Laurie Korenbaum declined to discuss the case with Gang Land. But law enforcement sources say that after two criminal investigators looked into the allegations, the case was referred to her counterparts in Brooklyn. That's where prosecutors sang Cicale's praises at his sentencing in 2012, and where Cicale, who professed he was a changed man, still has three years of strict post-prison supervised release to complete.

After ducking Gang Land's calls for nearly two days, Frankie The Florist finally got on the phone, explaining his reluctance this way: "Look at the position I'm in. I'm stuck in the middle. On one side of me I got this guy, and on this side of me I got another guy. A damned if you do, and damned if you don't situation."

When pressed about the accuracy of his affidavit, Villano said simply: "It's a federal offense to lie in one of those things." Lying apparently isn't something Cicale has worried too much about.



Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


It's fucking embarrassing, fan boy or a homo for sure.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 03:19 AM

Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


It's fucking embarrassing, fan boy or a homo for sure.


Scott B. is obviously homosexual, but he may have good intentions. I don't think it's right to judge.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


my GOD you guys are like a broken record...Capeci was doing this with Gotti over 2 decades ago..who cares? It's the information that matters.

Ridiculous when you guys would rather discuss verbiage rather than the information provided.

rolleyes
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


my GOD you guys are like a broken record...Capeci was doing this with Gotti over 2 decades ago..who cares? It's the information that matters.

Ridiculous when you guys would rather discuss verbiage rather than the information provided.

rolleyes




Capeci was never that bad. And at least Gotti crossed over into the mainstream. Nobody has heard of Merlino apart from mob enthusiasts and people from Philadelphia.

It just sounds like he has a crush on him.

He probably wanted to collaborate with Phil Leonetti on more than just a book.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 06:20 PM

stupid hypothectical wonder if that douche bent finger lou regrets flipping on his old buddy george. if hes says they were as tight as they were hed probaly have his button or gotten a pass and still be earning. with all the press showing george opening a club and having guys come and go might make it hard for that guy to go down the jersey shore without being a little nervous he might catch a beating. after the nicky skins tape i would think no one but uncle joe and merlino no whose meeting who in florida. the gambinos must have felt dumb about getting the whole philly family indicted cause there guy.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 06:21 PM

well Moe you just crushed me...

<throws away Joey Merlino action figure>

lol
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 06:38 PM

Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Speaking of Cicale,,he went from popping up all over the net...to disappearing after it came out he was trying to extort Bascianos family by giving them hope and saying he would say some shit to get Vinny off just to get money from them cuz he is too much of a bum to earn his own money in the legitimate world.

That shit he tried to pull on that family was really the lowest of the low.


fucking disgusting funny how this guy tried to make cicale out to be this credible guy and then he gets caught goes all quiet here is old gangland article

this is why no one takes him seriously even real mob reporters look down at him




This Week in Gang Land
By Jerry Capeci

Mob Turncoat Who Sent Vinny Gorgeous Away For Life Allegedly Extorted Basciano Family For 200K

Gang Land Exclusive. Turncoat wiseguy Dominick Cicale, who bragged that he put "the nail in the coffin" of his imprisoned-for-life former mob superior, Vincent (Vinny Gorgeous) Basciano, also had another slick move for his old pal's family: He tried to extort $200,000 from them last summer, according to information that a private investigator provided the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office.

Cicale, a murderous drug dealer who described himself last year in a letter to a federal judge as an "extremely talented author, singer and inspirational speaker," has never been short on boastful, arrogance. The former Bonanno capo has written a fanciful book in which he crows about his prowess as a businessman, a gangster, and a mob turncoat. You can hear some of his same boasts on YouTube.

But Cicale kept his dealings with Basciano's family on the down low, apparently. The alleged shakedown of Basciano's wife Angela and her sons came one month after Cicale sent a letter to a federal judge proposing leniency for Joseph Basciano for a marijuana drug rap, according to court papers obtained by Gang Land.

"It was a complete scam," said private investigator James Dowd, who told Gang Land that Cicale offered to provide the Bascianos a "get out of jail" card for Vinny Gorgeous. "He has no information that could help Vinny; he was just trying to get money out of the Bascianos," said Dowd.

Cicale put the scam into motion at 9 AM last August 9 when he called Frank (Frankie The Florist) Villano, a longtime Basciano family friend at a flower shop he operated in the Throgs Neck section of the Bronx. Cicale told Villano he had some important info for the Bascianos and asked him to get one of the Basciano brothers to his store by noon so he could speak to him.

Joseph Basciano was at Frankie The Florist's flower shop on East Tremont Avenue when Cicale called at noon. Villano gave the phone to Basciano, according to an affidavit by the florist. "After a brief conversation," Villano wrote, "Joe hung up on him," but Cicale immediately called back and told Villano, "I know he's still standing there with you so tell him I'm willing to help his dad get a new trial."

Cicale, 46, testified three times against Basciano, who was convicted of racketeering or murder at three trials and is currently serving life at the Supermax federal prison in Florence, Colorado. As his reward, Cicale, who admitted taking part in two murders with Basciano, got 10 years in prison. He was released in 2013.

"Cicale then said that he would call me back later in the evening," wrote Villano, adding that when the mob defector did, he spelled out his demands to Frankie The Florist.

Some of Cicale's calls were tape-recorded, according to sources.

"I can guarantee his father a new trial," Cicale said, according to the affidavit. "I spoke with my lawyers, and although they told me not to do it, I think it's the right thing to do," Cicale said, Villano wrote, stating that Cicale "went on to say he testified against his father because as a cooperator, the Government instructed him what to say."

"Cicale then stated, 'I want to be compensated for this because I'm risking everything. I want $200,000, with $70,000 up front and delivered to my mom tomorrow. As soon as my mom gets the money, I'll go to my lawyers and get the ball rolling. After that, we'll work the rest out,'" Villano wrote.

In the affidavit, Villano wrote that Cicale said he "never thought" he would ever have to take the stand against Vinny Gorgeous "because I thought he would take a plea deal. But instead (he) went to trial" and "put me in the position to be a cooperator."

Early the next morning, Cicale called Villano on his cell phone, and rejected a suggestion to discuss the matter with Vincent Basciano Jr., who, like his brother Joseph, had pleaded guilty to marijuana trafficking charges, but was free on bail at the time. Cicale stated, "There's nothing to talk about, so if my mom doesn't get the money, I have the answer," Villano wrote.

All told, Villano wrote in a September 30, 2014 affidavit, he spoke to Cicale a total of five or six times — all in calls from a phone with a blocked telephone number — regarding his stated plan to help Vinny Gorgeous overturn convictions that include two life sentences.

In a companion affidavit, Joseph Basciano, who most likely was suspicious of Cicale from the get go, wrote about the brief conversation he had with the mob turncoat before he angrily hung up on him. Cicale said, "I have some information that could benefit your dad," but then quickly, and inexplicably added, "last winter you found some money in the snow."

"At this point," wrote Basciano, "I stopped him and said, 'I never found any money in the snow,' and hung up on him. I know this was Dominick Cicale because I know his voice and have known him for many years."

In early October, Dowd, who told Gang Land that he agreed to look into Cicale's "extortion scam" and prepare affidavits for Villano and Joseph Basciano after Vincent Jr. contacted him about it, submitted a two page affidavit by Villano to the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office because the alleged crime took place in the Bronx, where the Bascianos reside.

Preparing the Joseph Basciano affidavit took a lot longer, said Dowd. That's because Basciano began serving a six-month prison term at the Metropolitan Correctional Center a few days after he spoke to Cicale and Dowd wasn't able to have it signed and notarized until January 22.

Last year, Cicale co-authored a book, Cosa Nostra News: The Cicale Files. The book was a little short on real facts, however, regarding a March 1999 mob murder that occurred while he was in prison, months before he met Vinny Gorgeous. Next month, the claim is that Cicale will disclose "never-been-told-before details" about the "missing money" from the storied 1978 Lufthansa Airlines heist in a new book.

In yet another remarkably ballsy move, Cicale has moved back to the Bronx, a decision announced in January of last year in a quickie YouTube bit as he stood with the elevated #6 line that runs on Westchester Avenue in the background. He followed that in May with a longer YouTube rap in which he boasts of rubbing elbows with "mayors, senators and bank presidents" (all unnamed) as he made $10 million in four years after getting out of prison in late 1999.

"I changed with the times," is the song that singer Cicale croons on YouTube. "That's why I cooperated. All the dinosaurs are going to die in jail. I chose a different path to rebuild myself. To rebuild my brand. To come out there and do good."

Assistant U.S attorney Laurie Korenbaum declined to discuss the case with Gang Land. But law enforcement sources say that after two criminal investigators looked into the allegations, the case was referred to her counterparts in Brooklyn. That's where prosecutors sang Cicale's praises at his sentencing in 2012, and where Cicale, who professed he was a changed man, still has three years of strict post-prison supervised release to complete.

After ducking Gang Land's calls for nearly two days, Frankie The Florist finally got on the phone, explaining his reluctance this way: "Look at the position I'm in. I'm stuck in the middle. On one side of me I got this guy, and on this side of me I got another guy. A damned if you do, and damned if you don't situation."

When pressed about the accuracy of his affidavit, Villano said simply: "It's a federal offense to lie in one of those things." Lying apparently isn't something Cicale has worried too much about.





Ya know, aside from that article it seems like that whole thing was kind of swept under the rug and went away. Reading that article makes me sick. What a delusional douchebag Cicale is.

How the fuck was he not charged? He cant have immunity from that? And wasnt he still on supervised revisions? Where the fuck are the extortion charges?

His fed buddies obviously pulled some strings.

They even had recorded conversations!

Anyone else, thats a 5-10 stretch...smh
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
http://gangsterreport.com/meeting-of-the...h-nyc-wiseguys/

New article of Scott B. about Borgesi meeting with some Gambinos..

''Borgesi is said to be, at least partially, at odds with the perpetually-magnetic and consummately-slick Merlino..''

He's doing it on purpose, swear to God!!! LOL


my GOD you guys are like a broken record...Capeci was doing this with Gotti over 2 decades ago..who cares? It's the information that matters.

Ridiculous when you guys would rather discuss verbiage rather than the information provided.

rolleyes




''What's a matter Joey, you got a fuckin' eye problem! You look like Stevie Wonder, your eyes rollin' around!''


But on a serious note: I like Scott and his articles, but the adjectives he uses to describe Merlino are just ridiculously funny if ya ask me LOL
Posted By: EVL

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/20/16 11:54 PM

I was looking for serious criticism -- and instead nothing but insults... Vague generalities with which you keep slandering me.

I didn't write the Lufthansa book, either.

I am responsible for what Dominick Cicale did or didn't do?

That Capeci story was written based on one source, a PI. Why wasn't he indicted for this, if it's true.

People on here, of all people, should understand the importance of cultivating sources from inside. It beats guessing from the outside.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 04:16 AM

I don't have a dog in this race and am not familiar with Ed Scarpo or his publications. But for neutral observers it's Ed Scarpo 1. Mud slingers 0.

Mud slingers have yet to present any serious critique to warrant the mud slung at Ed.

Again, no dog, but attacks have yet to be meaningfully substantiated and as so far unjustified.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 03:48 PM

Just go browse thru the articles on www.cosanostranews.com and you will know what everyones talking about lol
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 04:46 PM

Saying the decavalcante family have 80 made guys and 7 captains , saying George borgesi was the new Philly mob boss , adding 10 yeas to the real age of Dominick cefalu , plus numerous other inaccurate stories , then when you try and correct him he abuses u and blocks you from his page , I've corrected him on at least 10 occasions , also posting pictures and getting the wrong name to go with the picture , the guy is a terrible researcher and his stories are inaccurate and rarely ever finished , he states he still has to speak to his sources . UTTER DOGSHIT WEBSITE . Hope that's good enough for u sonny , like Stevie said go check it out . See for yourself
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 05:08 PM

You have to give Scarpo some type of credit. He was able to get Cicale, Alite, Scars and a few others in the life as well as several LEO's to speak to him. Although sometimes he was used by them to promote their agenda, he still was able to get them to sit down with him for an interview. John Miller use to follow John Gotti around and was his lap dog and voice piece for many years and look at him now? I just think Scarpo needs to fact check what he is told before printing it. Like Capeci is known for. Scrapo has come a long way since his first article. I think he's not as naive as when he first started his website and you have to give him credit, he's making money writing his blog, what are we doing?
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
I don't have a dog in this race and am not familiar with Ed Scarpo or his publications. But for neutral observers it's Ed Scarpo 1. Mud slingers 0.

Mud slingers have yet to present any serious critique to warrant the mud slung at Ed.

Again, no dog, but attacks have yet to be meaningfully substantiated and as so far unjustified.


You just admitted you're not familiar with him, then say he's 1-0 up on his critics, ridiculous. He's a fucking spastic.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
You have to give Scarpo some type of credit. He was able to get Cicale, Alite, Scars and a few others in the life as well as several LEO's to speak to him. Although sometimes he was used by them to promote their agenda, he still was able to get them to sit down with him for an interview. John Miller use to follow John Gotti around and was his lap dog and voice piece for many years and look at him now? I just think Scarpo needs to fact check what he is told before printing it. Like Capeci is known for. Scrapo has come a long way since his first article. I think he's not as naive as when he first started his website and you have to give him credit, he's making money writing his blog, what are we doing?


FFS, his name isn't even scarpo is it. He makes things up to get views on his site.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
I don't have a dog in this race and am not familiar with Ed Scarpo or his publications. But for neutral observers it's Ed Scarpo 1. Mud slingers 0.

Mud slingers have yet to present any serious critique to warrant the mud slung at Ed.

Again, no dog, but attacks have yet to be meaningfully substantiated and as so far unjustified.


You just admitted you're not familiar with him, then say he's 1-0 up on his critics, ridiculous. He's a fucking spastic.


If you read my post Tommy you'll see, and again I repeat, that the attacks were yet to be justified. It was just name calling. Understand?

My Thanks to Dom and Handsome Steve for giving me some good info. From what I can see guy does appear to be more in the fiction category than fact.
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
I don't have a dog in this race and am not familiar with Ed Scarpo or his publications. But for neutral observers it's Ed Scarpo 1. Mud slingers 0.

Mud slingers have yet to present any serious critique to warrant the mud slung at Ed.

Again, no dog, but attacks have yet to be meaningfully substantiated and as so far unjustified.


You just admitted you're not familiar with him, then say he's 1-0 up on his critics, ridiculous. He's a fucking spastic.


If you read my post Tommy you'll see, and again I repeat, that the attacks were yet to be justified. It was just name calling. Understand?

My Thanks to Dom and Handsome Steve for giving me some good info. From what I can see guy does appear to be more in the fiction category than fact.


You've been on these forums for a while Sonny, surely you've seen this clown be exposed a million times over.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 10:41 PM

I think Sonny is bored. Likes to go against the grain.

shhh
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Saying the decavalcante family have 80 made guys and 7 captains , saying George borgesi was the new Philly mob boss , adding 10 yeas to the real age of Dominick cefalu , plus numerous other inaccurate stories , then when you try and correct him he abuses u and blocks you from his page , I've corrected him on at least 10 occasions , also posting pictures and getting the wrong name to go with the picture , the guy is a terrible researcher and his stories are inaccurate and rarely ever finished , he states he still has to speak to his sources . UTTER DOGSHIT WEBSITE . Hope that's good enough for u sonny , like Stevie said go check it out . See for yourself



Ahhh thanks Dom...it was Cefalu...I kept thinking Barney for some reason but couldn't quite remember.
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/21/16 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: EVL
I was looking for serious criticism -- and instead nothing but insults... Vague generalities with which you keep slandering me.

I didn't write the Lufthansa book, either.

I am responsible for what Dominick Cicale did or didn't do?

That Capeci story was written based on one source, a PI. Why wasn't he indicted for this, if it's true.

People on here, of all people, should understand the importance of cultivating sources from inside. It beats guessing from the outside.




Wait wait wait...If it was true why was't he indicted??

Like the feds would never go out of their way to help out one of their prized snitches and undermine their own cases and convictions now would they? Never! The feds are 100 percent clean ad upstanding!

rolleyes

Let's try not to turn this into an all out bash fest though, fellas. I was trying to avoid that...but he asked.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 02:18 PM

shit i could probably get Alite to sit down with me lol hes a nobody!
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 03:04 PM

Yea, Alite was telling his story to anybody who would listen for that time period when he resurfaced.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 03:05 PM

Ed Scarpo is probably one of the most unreliable journalists I've ever come across. He's famous for writing something and then deleting it when he's called out on it. Didn't this guy once say George Borgesi was the new boss of Philly?
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 03:08 PM

Lol, shit, that was him. He deleted that article too after being asked by multiple people to cite his sources.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
Just go browse thru the articles on www.cosanostranews.com and you will know what everyones talking about lol


In all fairness to Ed, it's a good site to visit if you want information about Thai brides and/or penis enlargement.
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 07:13 PM

^^^That's a good one Moe
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 03/22/16 10:59 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Lol, shit, that was him. He deleted that article too after being asked by multiple people to cite his sources.


I completely forgot the ol delete the article trick.

smh
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 12:13 AM

Originally Posted By: EVL
I was looking for serious criticism -- and instead nothing but insults... Vague generalities with which you keep slandering me.

I didn't write the Lufthansa book, either.

I am responsible for what Dominick Cicale did or didn't do?

That Capeci story was written based on one source, a PI. Why wasn't he indicted for this, if it's true.

People on here, of all people, should understand the importance of cultivating sources from inside. It beats guessing from the outside.



Heres a serious critique you fugazzi italian jizzbag. Everytime Ive tried to go to your site just for a chuckle because its at least 50% fiction, there is so much malware, pop-ups, and shitty Myspace ads that it may as well be Pornhub.com. Seriously, how can u not notice that this looks horribly amateurish and prevents anyone who doesnt want their identity stolen by cock sucking Nigerian criminals from actually reading your site. Start there...then graduate to fact checking, spell check, and using a thesaurus
Posted By: flamingokid123

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 02:03 AM

Heard Anthony Staino ain't fairing to we'll in prison. He's that Bell's Palsey disease . And he looking pretty frail.
Posted By: NickyWhip

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 02:40 AM

Originally Posted By: flamingokid123
Heard Anthony Staino ain't fairing to we'll in prison. He's that Bell's Palsey disease . And he looking pretty frail.


That's caused by stress sometimes. It goes away but can keep coming back. You say frail too? He's got at least another 4-6 year left on his sentence too. What prison. Is he in?
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 02:46 AM

Nicky he's at FCI Petersburg low and due out 2/17/20
Posted By: Sosueme

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: flamingokid123
Heard Anthony Staino ain't fairing to we'll in prison. He's that Bell's Palsey disease . And he looking pretty frail.
. Heard the same thing with the partial facial paralysis and weight loss. He will retire once he makes it out... He has enough contacts in the legit world to be fine with a legit source of income I'm sure his buddy billy f has a job waiting for him
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 04:42 PM

Mob legit and Joe Schmo legit are two different things.
Posted By: Sosueme

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 04/01/16 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Mob legit and Joe Schmo legit are two different things.
good point Should have chosen my words a little better.. Without any indictments by the time he gets out and if uncle joe is in semi retirement ...It's gonna be hard for him to grab what action he had back from lance and Johnny Chang. He will have his "sales job " at plant sugar waiting for him.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 02:29 AM

New and old posters , some good Philly info here but to much to comprehend in one read for my old brain .

And some great posters that are gone !!! ???
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 03:15 AM

What's the major news deep??? Take your time and spill it pal
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 03:15 AM

Serp
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 04:00 AM

Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Serp


No speak English.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 04:03 AM

Pm me
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 11:45 AM

Buon Natale serp
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/24/17 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: EVL
I was looking for serious criticism -- and instead nothing but insults... Vague generalities with which you keep slandering me.

I didn't write the Lufthansa book, either.

I am responsible for what Dominick Cicale did or didn't do?

That Capeci story was written based on one source, a PI. Why wasn't he indicted for this, if it's true.

People on here, of all people, should understand the importance of cultivating sources from inside. It beats guessing from the outside.



Heres a serious critique you fugazzi italian jizzbag. Everytime Ive tried to go to your site just for a chuckle because its at least 50% fiction, there is so much malware, pop-ups, and shitty Myspace ads that it may as well be Pornhub.com. Seriously, how can u not notice that this looks horribly amateurish and prevents anyone who doesnt want their identity stolen by cock sucking Nigerian criminals from actually reading your site. Start there...then graduate to fact checking, spell check, and using a thesaurus
LOL,on your old post mike,..in my day the word was JITBAG,,1 of my still faves when I'm mad @ someone..by the way, Merry Christmas 2 u & ur family ,hope all is well w/ ur daughter..Hoodlum
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/30/17 02:30 AM

Originally Posted By: hoodlum
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: EVL
I was looking for serious criticism -- and instead nothing but insults... Vague generalities with which you keep slandering me.

I didn't write the Lufthansa book, either.

I am responsible for what Dominick Cicale did or didn't do?

That Capeci story was written based on one source, a PI. Why wasn't he indicted for this, if it's true.

People on here, of all people, should understand the importance of cultivating sources from inside. It beats guessing from the outside.



Heres a serious critique you fugazzi italian jizzbag. Everytime Ive tried to go to your site just for a chuckle because its at least 50% fiction, there is so much malware, pop-ups, and shitty Myspace ads that it may as well be Pornhub.com. Seriously, how can u not notice that this looks horribly amateurish and prevents anyone who doesnt want their identity stolen by cock sucking Nigerian criminals from actually reading your site. Start there...then graduate to fact checking, spell check, and using a thesaurus
LOL,on your old post mike,..in my day the word was JITBAG,,1 of my still faves when I'm mad @ someone..by the way, Merry Christmas 2 u & ur family ,hope all is well w/ ur daughter..Hoodlum


Hahah Hoodlum my man, youre dating yourself with that term, I remember my dad screaming that out the window when someone cut him off on the Boulevard...i dont remember what this rant was about, but if I had to guess it was directed at that shithead Ed Scarpo and his awful site full of lies, pop ups and solicitations...Thank you for the kind words as always my friend, my daughter is finally feeling better, getting her disease under control and had such a fun xmas, the 1st one where shes old enough to know all about Santa was just obsessed with everything Christmas the entire month of December, was so much fun...Hope you and the family had a nice Holiday and happy new year buddy
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/30/17 03:29 AM

I've been studying the 2017 philly chart floating around Andi realized, some of the guys that's listed as soldiers fr philly, actually are members of other families
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 12/30/17 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: hoodlum
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: EVL
I was looking for serious criticism -- and instead nothing but insults... Vague generalities with which you keep slandering me.

I didn't write the Lufthansa book, either.

I am responsible for what Dominick Cicale did or didn't do?

That Capeci story was written based on one source, a PI. Why wasn't he indicted for this, if it's true.

People on here, of all people, should understand the importance of cultivating sources from inside. It beats guessing from the outside.



Heres a serious critique you fugazzi italian jizzbag. Everytime Ive tried to go to your site just for a chuckle because its at least 50% fiction, there is so much malware, pop-ups, and shitty Myspace ads that it may as well be Pornhub.com. Seriously, how can u not notice that this looks horribly amateurish and prevents anyone who doesnt want their identity stolen by cock sucking Nigerian criminals from actually reading your site. Start there...then graduate to fact checking, spell check, and using a thesaurus
LOL,on your old post mike,..in my day the word was JITBAG,,1 of my still faves when I'm mad @ someone..by the way, Merry Christmas 2 u & ur family ,hope all is well w/ ur daughter..Hoodlum


Hahah Hoodlum my man, youre dating yourself with that term, I remember my dad screaming that out the window when someone cut him off on the Boulevard...i dont remember what this rant was about, but if I had to guess it was directed at that shithead Ed Scarpo and his awful site full of lies, pop ups and solicitations...Thank you for the kind words as always my friend, my daughter is finally feeling better, getting her disease under control and had such a fun xmas, the 1st one where shes old enough to know all about Santa was just obsessed with everything Christmas the entire month of December, was so much fun...Hope you and the family had a nice Holiday and happy new year buddy

My daughter is two and my son is five. This Christmas was great as a father. Things are great with my wife and I. I hope you all had / a great holiday season.
Posted By: Wilson101

Re: Philly Mob in 2016 - 01/02/18 05:52 AM

Things are changing as we speak
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