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CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW .

Posted By: bronx

CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/15/15 11:03 PM

A day that change the Gambino history..for the worse!
Posted By: Beanshooter

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/15/15 11:32 PM

So interesting the events that lead up to it, the actual shooting and the aftermath. True Mafia history of betrayal, treachery, back stabbing and revenge.
Posted By: pmac

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 02:43 AM

Like that show on amazon the Nazis won world 2. Big Paul doesn't die but gets 100 yrs how long would have Tommy gambino lasted as acting and how who they look today if that happens. Also think if Tommy b didn't he would have been on trial with armone n Joe Gallo so he would have got locked up around 87 88. Gotti probaly would have inherited the family by default.
Posted By: sickstylemob12

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 03:07 AM

Did Tommy Bilotti's brother take over his business after he was shot? And was he ever made ?
(Wasn't there something about how Sammy (or someone else big) that went to him to make sure he realized it wasn't personal and to make sure he didnt Avenge his brothers death.
Posted By: bronx

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 03:32 AM

exactly..tommy g did not want to be boss ,he would have stepped aside..no question/ bilotti would have been killed. paul in prison.. no killing of a boss, commission does not exact revenge.john would have the captains in line once bilotti disappears . decicco takes a huge role with the other families for them to work out who would be boss. gravano gets be a captain no more than that..they make marino a captain.dee bee is alive and well earning huge $.i can keep going on.. joe watts took tommy biz..joe b was lucky not to be killed.. he was smart enough not to be unhappy about his brother.. that is the life
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 04:22 AM

The night that made John Gotti

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/night-made-john-gotti-article-1.2466837
Posted By: njcapo35

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 06:57 AM



"Neil, the fuking guy, he squeezes a fuking quarter till the eagle screams..come on!"
Posted By: mulberry

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 07:04 AM

Paul would have appointed Jimmy Brown to run the family. Nobody would have touched him.
Posted By: bronx

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 01:55 PM

they killed paul, tommy, why would they not push jimmy aside? jimmy was not well liked by a lot of guys in that family. and that is fact.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: njcapo35


"Neil, the fuking guy, he squeezes a fuking quarter till the eagle screams..come on!"


lol
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: mulberry
Paul would have appointed Jimmy Brown to run the family. Nobody would have touched him.


thats not true paul did not even consider jimmy brown

paul held a meeting a month before he was killed with all the capos he said he was making tommy biletti his boss and tommy gambino his underboss. That angered all the capos even the ones who were with paul
Posted By: TommyGambino

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: mulberry
Paul would have appointed Jimmy Brown to run the family. Nobody would have touched him.


thats not true paul did not even consider jimmy brown

paul held a meeting a month before he was killed with all the capos he said he was making tommy biletti his boss and tommy gambino his underboss. That angered all the capos even the ones who were with paul



Source?
Posted By: pmac

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 08:03 PM

Remember Sammy the bull saying Paul replaced Neil with Tommy b after Neil died and when he and if he went to jail Tommy gambino would be acting boss. At the time of bilotti death I thing he was underboss. He was also under indictment for Rico charges and would have went to jail with armone n Gallo.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: mulberry
Paul would have appointed Jimmy Brown to run the family. Nobody would have touched him.


thats not true paul did not even consider jimmy brown

paul held a meeting a month before he was killed with all the capos he said he was making tommy biletti his boss and tommy gambino his underboss. That angered all the capos even the ones who were with paul



Source?


GOTTI: Rise and Fall by jerry capeci


according to his book paul decicied on running a ruling panel before he went away it was to have john gotti tommy gambino and tommy B but that was only to keep neil happy. As soon as neil died paul changed his mind and told all the capos that tommy b would be the acting boss and tommy gambino underboss. He said he would also break the gotti crew and in a moment of jealously suggest neil was a rat which apparently sent gotti into rage
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 08:22 PM

There has always been whispers about Dellacroce being a rat.

IDK how true that is.

Look at Junior Gotti and Greg Scarpa as examples. There are different kinds of rats with different justifications for their ratting.
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
There has always been whispers about Dellacroce being a rat.

IDK how true that is.

Look at Junior Gotti and Greg Scarpa as examples. There are different kinds of rats with different justifications for their ratting.


bullshit because he was always in prison and when indicted before he died it would have come out about his cooperation for example willie boy johnson and hijacker gotti associate billy battistia (fled the country)

paul said it out of jealously this is what capeci wrote

"there is a rumor neil was a rat" he said,unable to control his jealousy even now,even though the article was disinformation that some law enforcement source had fed some writer trying to enliven Neils obituary notice
As Decicco and tommy gambino tried to calm him,Gotti flew into a rage."Whoever said that,I`ll throw `em off a fucking building!"
"where there is smoke there is fire" Paul replied,insulting the memory of a mans man and ensuring two weeks more, the fist would come smashing down



Posted By: moneyman

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/16/15 09:51 PM

bronx when you heard Paul was killed were you surprised?
Posted By: bronx

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/17/15 12:37 AM

yes..
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/17/15 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: mulberry
Paul would have appointed Jimmy Brown to run the family. Nobody would have touched him.


thats not true paul did not even consider jimmy brown

paul held a meeting a month before he was killed with all the capos he said he was making tommy biletti his boss and tommy gambino his underboss. That angered all the capos even the ones who were with paul



Source?


Mob Star by Jerry Capeci. Should try reading it, good book.
Posted By: ItalianIrishMix

Re: CASTELLANO ,BILOTTI SHOT 30 YEARS AGO TOMORROW . - 12/17/15 05:42 PM

Anyone know what became of Bilotti's 9 kids? Thought I read his brother became their guardian who also had a lot of kids.

Any of them get into the life?
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