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Posted By: domwoods74

Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:37 PM

http://abc7ny.com/news/vincent-asaro-found-not-guilty-in-1978-goodfellas-lufthansa-heist/1081276/
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:44 PM

so crazy.. I thought he was fucked for sure..i thought at least something would stick and he would die in prison.. cant believe hes walking away a free man.. broke.. but free
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:45 PM

his cousin is such a fucking scumbag for testifying against vinny..I just cant condone that no matter what the circumstances.. but to literally admit that you started wearing a wire on your own blood cause you wanted the money from the fbi is literally disgusting.
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:46 PM

Agreed , I think everyone thought Asaro was done for , not one person thought he would walk
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:50 PM

I thought there was literally 0 chance of him getting off.. from the katz murder the the robbery... and not to mention all the other small shit he was caught saying on tape..i wonder where he will stand now.. the family should give him some money for being a stand up guy and make him retire.
as much as an idiot or unlike he is in the family you have to give an 80 year old who is pretty much put out to pasture and cant earn shit credit for standing tall and accepting hes going to get convicted and die in prison.. then he gets found not guilty. I bet hes in fucking shock right now.
what does everyone have to say about him being found not guilty? you think jurors are finally sick of these lying informants?
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:50 PM

cause it sure as fuck seems like there was enough evidence just from his own mouth to convict him..
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 08:54 PM

from what i have read tommy hates him because of what vinny said on tape he is shelved


i am in shock though i was 100 percent sure he would get convicted on some charges
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 09:04 PM

yeah bad mouthing your superior is never smart... everyone does it theyre all greedy shit talkers but most don't get caught on tape saying it.
Posted By: BennyB

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
cause it sure as fuck seems like there was enough evidence just from his own mouth to convict him..

John Gotti level blabbering
Posted By: DB

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 09:52 PM

Poor Jerry , he has to be fuming in his cell right now

The govt might have to start rethinking their informant strategy right now and in all honesty that should always have been the case . How can you believe someone that lies cheats and steals every day
Posted By: Belmont

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:01 PM

I am actually happy about this. That cousin is a piece of shit.
Posted By: British

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:08 PM

Will Asaro be released or will he still be held if the government appeal the decision?
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: DB
Poor Jerry , he has to be fuming in his cell right now

The govt might have to start rethinking their informant strategy right now and in all honesty that should always have been the case . How can you believe someone that lies cheats and steals every day


right? I love the guys who flip and testify.. its like yeah for the last 30 years everyday of my life revolved around lying,cheating,stealing, hustling... but right now I'm telling the absolute truth.. anyone who believes that shit is honestly retarded. people who believe that are the same people who get hustled by these guys on the street. easy marks.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:11 PM

i no the son must be dumbfounded is that the word. like happy his dad didnt die in jail but his 8 yrs you never know. not guilty on all the coumts he plead out to. do the last of the dinosaurs give him a party they have to right. he beat the gov ugly. they can put him on the shelf nextweek. but who knows if that guy tommy d whose was the street boos but in bad health isnt in the picture no more maybe he gets to come around. how bout him telling the post reporter tell my cousin is he happy with his 3000 or some shit. what happing to the loan sharking the million dollar gold dust heist the arsons. nothing. the gov been losing alot more then i can ever remeber in trials even the philly guys to.
Posted By: Garbageman

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:21 PM

I love that the government got shit on by the jury. Their shitty crooked tactics failed. I'm a happy man after finding this out earlier today.
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:22 PM

Yeah, it seems to be a trend, pmac.
Posted By: 116th_street

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:25 PM

Amazing. Thought he was done for sure. He says he was the last wiseguy in the neighbourhood. Was he talking about ozone park?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:25 PM

its like the government buys the evidence. theres not any csi shit or physical ev. i mean just government employees get up there from the witsec program after they spent the lump some 401k its nuts . this will probaly be front page picture on both papers unless rex ryan runs on the field and tackles a jet. bad look for the g. they put massino up there it probaly been the same verdict.
Posted By: DA13

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:29 PM


Video

Vincent Asaro Found Not Guilty in 'Goodfellas' Lufthansa Jewelry Heist Trial
Posted By: GerryLang

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 10:44 PM

I didn't the see this coming, the cousin got it stuck in his ass. He lost his family over a few shekels.
Posted By: short841

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 11:34 PM

video here of him speaking to media. Will he retire? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...llas-heist.html
Posted By: funkster

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 11:38 PM

Absolutely shocked at the outcome.
Posted By: Beenaround

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/12/15 11:45 PM

Good to see 1 of them get off..I'm surprised..He should just lay low..Feds don't like to lose.
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 12:04 AM

Yeaup good for him, absolutely zero physical evidence which is huge for a jury..plus as stated above the scum baggy nature of how his cousin started ratting is pretty fuckin low....Anyone see was Valenti's kid that fat made guy think his name is Anthony, was he there?
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 12:57 AM

The government has too much invested in the case, so I think he'll probably be re-tried.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: British
Will Asaro be released or will he still be held if the government appeal the decision?


He would be released, but honestly I doubt the Feds try it again. Maybe they do, but it won't be with all the charges this case had.

I thought he was done with the stuff he said on tape only, what actually helped him was the jury not trusting his cousin that was wired up talking to him (or whatever he was I haven't followed too closely)
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 01:18 AM

Faithfall I don't think they can its wasn't a hung jury on any counts it was acquitted across the 14 counts. So all 14 of them crimes can never be tried again and the state won't touch it they like the big feds having egg on there face. It is kinda shocking. I thought he was going down but its cause all I hear is from pro government reporting so you never hear the other side of the case but the shitbag cousin running amock on the gov. He won he gets a free section 8 voucher some cash lotto. Nah watch the gov not go to bat at his sentencing he gets 5 yrs or something.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 01:24 AM

pmac is right, matter of fact I was coming back here to post that myself after I realized that

Double jeopardy comes in to play on the murder charge. They could always come back with "violating his civil rights" or some shit like that. They have to change the charge to have any chance of coming back after him, but after cases like in Philly with Uncle Joe, etc. and now this I just don't see them wasting time with many other mafia cases unless they are caught dead to rights.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 01:27 AM

Wow I thought he was finished. lol


Congrats to him I guess, he managed to beat the G and his cousin, I'll say that. I won't say I agree with the verdict, but hey, I wasn't in that deliberating room.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 02:39 AM

Last note on this till there's some new articles or so. His lawyers were 2 females+ public defenders also Italian by just looking at there last name and taking a guess. Just no experience so I didn't think he had a shot. But I was wrong . read capeci wrote it was all females the judge the prosecutors and defense. I just thought he was trying to go with that guy mcmchon or some guy aggressive maybe cutler style. But them dudes want to much money. But those 2 lawyers's can put that on there website and get the clients coming. Tommy shots lawyer I think white plains DUI specialist 1thing you see he beat 6 murders.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 02:40 AM

And public defenders. Another shity Thursday night game plus its raining out. Fuck.
Posted By: HandsomeMike

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 02:48 AM

I hope the G doesn't appeal. I'm tired of seeing tax dollars wasted on shit like this. Yes, I know if he broke the law he should be accountable, but still. How much money can go to trying to send guys to jail for crimes committed years ago? How much bullshit is going on now?

I'm not trying to say give crimes committed years ago a free pass but if they allocated that money to solve crimes that occurred last week wouldn't it be better for everyone? I don't know what I'm trying to say, I just think going after shit that happened 40 years ago doesn't make sense. Anyone agree with me or am I crazy?
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 03:07 AM

Alrite just read NY daily the fucking guard who got pistoled whiped said the jury came to the right conclusion and the cousin gaspare was lying and wasn't there wtf. This shit is nuts. Asaro told his cousin to enjoy the government 3k ammonth I don't know what to believe. Was asaro really in on the heist. Maybe that's why massino didn't get on the stand he was surposed to say he was his capo Dec 78 but he didn't become a capo till after galante murder summer79? he already said that would be a conflicting statement. Jets suck. What the hell did sal vitale testify about my brother in-law told me some shit. Nuts. Hmike yaeh huge waste of money all them perp walk pics to the federal house and now his big ass smile across the news someones in trouble. And just my guess this guy is the most known mobster in NYC today cause of this good or bad probaly bad for anyone he's still hangs with. Will the social clubs let him in after he told the world he don't pay his dues ha-ha.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 03:13 AM

No appeal that would look worst he won fair n square.
Posted By: Wilson101

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 03:43 AM

Appeal? He won.
Posted By: Tony_Pro

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 03:50 AM

Yous've gotta be fucking kidding me. I thought he was a goner.

It's pretty sad that the fed can't put away this kind of low hanging fruit.
Posted By: Tony_Pro

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo
the family should give him some money for being a stand up guy and make him retire.


Will never happen because:

1. You don't get special treatment for doing what you're supposed to do.

2. He bad mouthed his boss on the wire.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 03:58 AM

He's as good as shelved. Twenty or thirty years ago he'd have been hoping for a conviction because it's safer inside. Today you don't have to worry so much. But he's done.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
He's as good as shelved. Twenty or thirty years ago he'd have been hoping for a conviction because it's safer inside. Today you don't have to worry so much. But he's done.


Is he?

Guy stood tall. Was previously elevated to capo. Ex ruling panel considered possible future boss potential.

The only thing that's changed is he proved his nuts at age 80 that he's prepared to go down with the ship.
With the gang that couldn't shoot straight that should increase his already solid credentials, let alone result in a shelving.

So I've got to disagree

In my humble opinion.
Posted By: NickyEyes1

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
Alrite just read NY daily the fucking guard who got pistoled whiped said the jury came to the right conclusion and the cousin gaspare was lying and wasn't there wtf. This shit is nuts. Asaro told his cousin to enjoy the government 3k ammonth I don't know what to believe. Was asaro really in on the heist. Maybe that's why massino didn't get on the stand he was surposed to say he was his capo Dec 78 but he didn't become a capo till after galante murder summer79? he already said that would be a conflicting statement. Jets suck. What the hell did sal vitale testify about my brother in-law told me some shit. Nuts. Hmike yaeh huge waste of money all them perp walk pics to the federal house and now his big ass smile across the news someones in trouble. And just my guess this guy is the most known mobster in NYC today cause of this good or bad probaly bad for anyone he's still hangs with. Will the social clubs let him in after he told the world he don't pay his dues ha-ha.

I love your random football updates in the middle of this post lol
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:25 AM

Likewise got a chuckle. lol
Posted By: LittleNicky

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:28 AM

Hey dumbies, the government cant appeal acquittals. Also, there are no conditions on a release in which you are found not guilty. Unbelievable reportera fuck this stuff up

Also somewhere the prosecutor that tried this dumbass case isnt getting biglaw
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:30 AM

He's loathed by the current administration, Sonny. And guys with much better credentials have been put out to pasture at his age. It would be different if he was still earning. But when you can't bring it in at his age, they'll retire you in a heartbeat. And aside from being universally disliked, he still has to answer for what he said about Tommy on tape.

So agree to disagree with me. But you'll see whistle.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:37 AM

Fair point.

Where you been pal? No response my last mail.

Trust you're good. My lines open.

Best.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:40 AM

Busy with my Pop. He's coming along but I literally didn't make a post for two weeks. But I'll email you tomorrow afternoon.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 04:56 AM

All good PB.

Understand your sit.

You have my best regards your father.

Speak when you can.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 06:46 AM

Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
He's as good as shelved. Twenty or thirty years ago he'd have been hoping for a conviction because it's safer inside. Today you don't have to worry so much. But he's done.


Is he?

Guy stood tall. Was previously elevated to capo. Ex ruling panel considered possible future boss potential.

The only thing that's changed is he proved his nuts at age 80 that he's prepared to go down with the ship.
With the gang that couldn't shoot straight that should increase his already solid credentials, let alone result in a shelving.

So I've got to disagree

In my humble opinion.



And then was promptly demoted to Soldier again.
Posted By: GangstersInc

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 10:13 AM

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/court-report-goodfellas-mobster-vincent-asaro-not-guilty
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 06:10 PM

"Thank God for the American Jury system. And an honest jury."

Nicky Scarfo
Posted By: Blackjack2121

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
He's as good as shelved. Twenty or thirty years ago he'd have been hoping for a conviction because it's safer inside. Today you don't have to worry so much. But he's done.


Is he?

Guy stood tall. Was previously elevated to capo. Ex ruling panel considered possible future boss potential.

The only thing that's changed is he proved his nuts at age 80 that he's prepared to go down with the ship.
With the gang that couldn't shoot straight that should increase his already solid credentials, let alone result in a shelving.

So I've got to disagree

In my humble opinion.



And then was promptly demoted to Soldier again.


In favor of his son at that. And that was before he was caught badmouthing his boss
Posted By: gangstereport

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 06:56 PM

his son was a capo of another crew it think vinny hates him though because he would not loan him the money
Posted By: mightyhealthy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
"Thank God for the American Jury system. And an honest jury."

Nicky Scarfo


Government's job to provide burden of proof. If they can't do it, don't indict someone.
Posted By: NE1020

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 09:15 PM

What consequences will Asaro face now for bad-mouthing his boss? He was already basically retired so he can't be shelved , apparently he's broke so he can't get taxed, whats going to happen to him?
Posted By: BennyB

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 09:47 PM

I bet he will live his life like any normal 80 year old
Posted By: Ted

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: NE1020
What consequences will Asaro face now for bad-mouthing his boss? He was already basically retired so he can't be shelved , apparently he's broke so he can't get taxed, whats going to happen to him?

Absolutely nothing.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/13/15 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: NE1020
What consequences will Asaro face now for bad-mouthing his boss? He was already basically retired so he can't be shelved , apparently he's broke so he can't get taxed, whats going to happen to him?

Nothing. He can't earn. He can't show his face at his old haunts. No one wants anything to do with him. That's his punishment. And for a lifetime wiseguy, that's as bad as it gets.
Posted By: tt120

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/14/15 12:21 AM

hopefully for his sake his daughter and in laws can take care of him. i usually goto aqueduct twice a year, wouldnt have surprised me if he was there today. maybe ill run into him, even though i wouldnt be able to tell him apart from any guy there lol. if he owns his house in ozone park he should sell it and head south. single family houses are like a quarter mill plus out there...shit..maybe even half a mill
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/14/15 09:25 AM

Pizza said it, nothing will happen to this dude. He's no threat to anyone, so why would they risk it by clipping him? Makes no sense. He's old and he's broke.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/14/15 11:02 PM

There a good times article about how the feds have been loosing more mafia cases now then before and they forgot a few more the genovese guy romenello and check from mass that beat to murders and the Colombo guy faresse. They touch on Joe eagerly and Tommy shot and a few others. They get alot of lawyers thoughts. Bad looking giving Valenti a FBI pension basiclay. Guy been a crook his whole life and they throw him a bone. And asaro never mention shit on tape he just grunts or agreas with his cousin but never says anything to incriminating.
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/14/15 11:25 PM

Speaking to someone who knows him well , If he was smart he would retire. Problem is he's broke. He wanted Gerald McMahon as his lawyer and couldn't afford him. People chipped in for his lawyers
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/15/15 01:43 AM

I don't care if the makes a dime or a million I am glad that the rat did not get to put him away.

Just like a crooked cop if you can not do it right you are worse then the wiseguy !!!
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/15/15 03:35 AM

Originally Posted By: pmac
There a good times article about how the feds have been loosing more mafia cases now then before and they forgot a few more the genovese guy romenello and check from mass that beat to murders and the Colombo guy faresse. They touch on Joe eagerly and Tommy shot and a few others. They get alot of lawyers thoughts. Bad looking giving Valenti a FBI pension basiclay. Guy been a crook his whole life and they throw him a bone. And asaro never mention shit on tape he just grunts or agreas with his cousin but never says anything to incriminating.

It all works out in the end, pmac. These things run in streaks. The Feds have been batting over .900 at trial for two hundred years, and it will never change. They stack the fucking deck in their favor and they win.

Take it from a guy who had to watch countless friends and family members denied everything from bail, to the federal infirmary, to a speedy trial, to being outright fucking railroaded. I'm not a mob apologist. I wouldn't piss on the current crop of street guys to put out a fire. But the government doesn't play fair, either.

If Asaro wasn't so irrelevant and the charges weren't so ancient, they would have found a way to beat him, too.
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: Asaro not guilty on all counts - 11/15/15 10:14 PM

For arguments/ speculation sake....If Asaro isnt shelved and allowed back into the fold...whos crew do you think he would be put with? I know what everyone has said hes likely shelved since he cant earn, just speculating
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