Peter Gotti convicted someone as part of a jury

17:43 into this video. That true?



Also (Junior) had a cousin Vinnie who raped and killed a girl?

And the Gotti's want to run around talking about how John Sr. was the last of the Mohicans lol.....

19:44 into the video Steve Adubato and George Anastasia have a rather salient discussion about how the mafia is glorified in the press, media and pop culture.

Anastasia makes a point about how any ethnic group that can give the world Antonin Scalia and Camille Paglia doesn't have to worry about "Tony Soprano" being its posterboy.

But nobody knows who Scalia and Paglia is!

And as long as pop culture (Pesci, De Niro, Scorsese and Sinatra) are so intertwined with the American mafia and it is romanticized so damn much the Scalia's and Paglia's won't get their rightful dues.

Gotti Sr. had a brother, Vincent, who was arrested but not convicted of statutory rape

vince john hated. I dont know if he raped her that was always alites verison.

I think vince was the gotti who had that baker shot in 2000

Alite is right about one thing.

Gotti blinks a lot when he is lying.

He should be called "Blinky".

Alite's being a typical rat, talking about trying to talk about how bad the life is and how he's glad he got out. If he never got caught he would still being doing the same thing.

He's the Henry Hill of the 21st century, I wonder if his book will be turned into another Scorsese movie?

IDK..

I mean I haven't read Alite's book but he seems to know he was a piece of shit and doesn't make any excuses about it.

Whereas the entire Gotti clan seem to think John Sr. was a demigod and a hero.

He's like Robert Durst with the blinking.

if you read alites book you will see how much he bullshits he lies and lies its pathetic really not that i am a fan of junior but alite talks so much shit.

he says he met joe ligambi stanio and others (complete bullshit)

he said the turras tried to pay him to kill Joey merlino (complete bullshit)

one of the murders he said he ordered he did not even testify in the trial in 2010 because the feds knew he was a bullshiter

he said after a hit him and junior gotti drove to where the body is so junior could mock it (bullshit)

rats like kevin and peter zuccaro and mikey scars contradicted him in there 302s and court testimony

how come no one ever mentions him until juniors trial not a single rat hmmm very werid for juniors right hand man


he got chased from queens (likes do deny it)


he says he fucked vicotira gotti in the charles carneliga trial then when she takes a lie test it shows alite lied and then alite in his book changes his mind and says "we had feelings for each other"


he said nicky corezzo plotted with him to kill junior gotti in 1995 ( i know for fact that is not true) but that nicky changed his mind after john senior paid him to protect junior. I have heard from andrew didontaros 302 that nicky said he wanted andrew and mikey y to kill junior because as nicky referred to him "baby huey" over the phone card scam but funny thing was that alite was not present only nickys crew and nicky never went through with it he got arrested and funny this is happening at a different time to when alite said nicky planned to kill him in 1997 and that was considered in the heat of the conversation


he said he used to sleep at the gottis house on a regular basis and that john senior liked him (that is the biggest bullshit i have ever heard yes him and junior were tight in the late 80s thats it never with john senior)



alite said he made 75 million for gambino family and said he and junior made 1 million a month from drugs (bullshit) why would a multi millionaire drug dealer also be a bookie run a small time brothel not only that worked a legit job for awhile (he got ripped apart in court about that) he made money he had a massive house but that 1 mil a month is not true


he claimed he battered one of richie gottis men in 2002


he said in court that joe Defede proposed him to be switched into the luchese family funny that joe never mentioned alite


he talks about the louie deebe hit fails to mentions harpos involvement in the murder sammy bull in court wrote to the trial saying that alite was lying


alite said he told old time consgileire joe gallo he was being taken down (bullshit) like john senior would send a albanien fuck low level drug dealer to meet one of the most respected mobsters in the family


every crime alite did he blamed junior for even when he talked about throwing a man naked into a river while beating and electrocuting him because the electrician and the electricians wife had sex on alites property after saying that in court he happens to say he drove all the way to see junior and got his permission then carried on please its just complete bullshit funny alite is not seen in one surveillance picture with junior after 1991

i could go on and on the things he lied about



the jury in the junior gotti trial said that they found alite to be the least believable out of all of the govt witness and believed he was unfairly targeting junior and that he was lying

in the charles carneliga case the jury there said that alite was only everdince in the case that they found hard to believe


this is a man who accused a cop of killing a man on his orders and because he was such a shit witness and lier the feds did not put him on trial for his own ordered hit



yearh really believable witness

I knew he was a liar but wow, nice post gangstereport.

George Anastasia seems like a decent guy, but I think he was a bit too eager to write a book about New York LCN that he just went with Alite as thats the best he could get. The deal basically between Anastasia and Alite seems to be "I get my first big NYC story, and you get to disrespect the Gotti family as much as you want, no questions asked."

God forbid if Alite does an interview without talking negatively about Gotti Jr. Fuckin enough already.
I truely believe all his Gotti bashing is a futile attempt to take the rat spot light off himself and deflect it towards Gotti.
Bottom line, he didnt want to spend the rest of his life in jail. His bullshit about him only cooperating because Gotti Jr did a proffer is utter nonsense and laughable.
Also, he should stop talking about boxing. The fuckin guy never faught in the golden gloves or had amateur fights. Boxing his friends in a park doesnt make him a boxer. I guess going in an actual ring with someone who truely has fighting skills was something Alite never had any interest in doing.
He was a bully and picked his marks. Not defending Gotti Jr because he was a bully as well but at least Gotti jr doesnt constantly bring up Alite.

alite looks for attention just a low level thug is whole life he cant have a conversation without mentioning junior everything he ever did wrong he says it as juniors fault its why all juries saw him a shit witness

gotti jr i am no fan because he was a bully he shot kevin Mcahon once in a argument but alite was a low life wannabe who loves to mention junior. Alite did get chased from queens fact he tries to denie it but it is true in the gotti trial alites former best friend testified about it and how alite hated junior because he chased him over drugs that was 1992 (differant to alites story) hmmmmm what do you expect the guy seems himself as a sammy the bull the guy used to change is name when out and about to make it sound more italien his second name haha wannabe

i hate every time there is an article about the gottis they have to get alites opinion on things him and geogre antastia cant be trusted on anything to do with the gottis

One thing is that during this interview Anastasia corroborated information Alite had about Philly.

alite did time with johnny gongs, that kid who was merlinos driver and ron turchi that bit


apart from that geogre is talking shit


number 1) rocco turra when he flipped never mentioned a john alite neither did louie turra or anthony on turra nor was alite ever seen on surveillance with the turras

number 2) alites 302 said he and junior met with scarfo in the 80s (philip leonetti never mentions the meeting) and ralph natale in the 90s (never happened either)

then in alites book he says he never mentions either meetings but in his 302 he does mention the meeting something dont make sense here

number 3 he says he met with joe ligambi, mousie and stanio and they discussed johnny gongs and a meeting they had that alite had to kick up to joe. Biggest bullshit of them all why?

use your common sense why would a low level albanien thug be meeting with the administration of the philly mob.

and even if we believe that alite was juniors number 2 which we dont this meeting he said happened "some time around 2002" if i was a lawyer i would rip him apart its why he never mentions this till his book. At this time alite claims that he was not part of the gambino family that he was having probelms with richie gotti and junior from the can. He also said members wanted to kill him. Now if this guy is supposedly shelved wanted to be whacked by the gambino family why would the philly administration be meeting with him they would be avoiding him. Also how can a shelved man be representing a gambino family hmmmmmmm.

not to mention junior gotti was not involved in the life at this stage



number 4 if he was such a reliable and truthful witness and he knew so much about philly mob why did he not tesitfy against merlino and stanio in the 2011 trial or the retrial why?

the feds were desperate they were using a loser from the can and lou marcello as there star witness come on the feds were desperate for info against joe.

Alite claims he met with joe and stanio if he was telling the truth he could testify that joe ligambi was the boss because he had to kick up moeny to him and stanio and he could testify that ligambi and stanio were part of the mob which would strength the trial he could also testify about the johnny gongs connection. If alite was telling the truth he could have hurt ligambi and proved that ligambi was a violent boss and the boss of the LCN not just a retired non violent man which the defense were trying to prove

you know why the feds did not put him on stand?

because the feds knew he was full of shit





geogre is talking shit because he wants alite to sound more credible and because its the gotti name we all know that in all of geogres books he berates the gottis he hates them and how much he loves castanallo and gambino. Alite said he did not consider writing a book until after he finished testifying but it now turns out that alite was talking shit because geogre was introduced to alite by a FBI agent back when alite had only just started to cooperate



i have lost alot of respect for geogre

GR great point I went to a few days of the ligambi and borgesi trial and heard some wiretaps and saw the star witness anyhiny apponik or something and he was a big liar so if alite knew 1/4 of what hes saying he would have been star witness

Vincent Gotti's a lot younger then his brothers I think, he's only early 60's. He didn't get made til John Gotti died.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ba...rticle-1.290247



vince always was a thug john never liked him it was peter i think who gave him his button

the feds case against ligambi was rubbish they were begging for any information if the feds really believed alite he would have testified they did not put him on stand because they knew he would get ripped apart. Imagine him against ed jacbos in a trial.


in the gotti case he got destroyed on stand



i lost nearly all respect for geogre with that book

Ed Jacobs back was fd up when i was there so he stood on those days but....he was awesome and just fucked with the witneses and borgesi was always snickering and shaking his head and playing for the court and uncle joe was just chillin and maybe shaking his head.....like you said it was a terrible case for the feds...what was joe in federal lockup in downtown philly like 18 months?

SR. chased his brother vinny, pete made him is correct huge mistake

little before

After Vinnie is finally made he asks: "What do you want me to do? Your wish is my command guys. I'm ready to make some money. Come on let's do this! YEEE-AH!" he says.

Pete Gotti, Corozzo and Jackie Nose haven't considered this.

"What is he good at?" they says.

After a few moments of silence they ask him to make some espresso and get some biscotti and a few minutes later he brings in hot chocolate and Oreos.

lol

Thanks for the post gangster report. I enjoy reading your stuff


Op, Vincent was known as "pee pee brain" to john gotti

Gangster report
What specifically was Alite chased for? You said drugs but in what context? Using, selling???
Can you elaborate a bit about the whole situation.

alites story was that he stopped kicking up to junior, that he was beefing with carmine a and that he thought junior was immature



well from what i have heard from court tesitomary from rats and partly from juniors book (though i was careful in what i read into that)

from what i have read was that during the 80s junior and alite worked together in bookmaking, street tax and maybe low level drug dealing. Alite kept using the gotti name on the street was the biggest reason he was chased he was dealing drugs and he was using the gotti name was junior involved i dont know several witness have all contradicted each other some saying no way others saying yes either way junior did not like his name being used when being around drugs that everyone agrees on.
Did he know and turn a blind eye who knows but he was mad that alite was using his name he demamned alite stopped dealing drugs and when alite refused he was chased. Remember if junior was dealing drugs it was before he got made capo i think as he got higher up he did not need to deal drugs thats if he was involved [b]i dont personally believe he was involved in drugs i think alite made that up the bookmaking and street tax yes even junior admitted to that but the drugs no[b/]


one thing for sure that claim alite made about making 1 million a month from drugs and making 75 million in his lifetime his the biggest bullshit i have ever read in my life he for awhile made decent money late 80s but a million a month is ridiculous the guy is one of the biggest liers i have read about in a long time and i will say this the feds played dirty giving alite that deal i dont care what people say the feds knew he was talking shit they just wanted the gotti name

he went to philly and florida and kept using the gambino name and both times he lost respect because the gambinos from new york said he was shelved (true story) alite began to make little money (he denies it but all witness say the same thing) his finaces dried up

he was also beefing with carmine Agello


he was never popular guy always a outsider he likes to potray himself as this sammy the bull but he knew little to be honest he was an assoiate of juniors for awhile did business together manily street tax and gambling

i think when junior moved up in the world alite became more of nusicance he was constantly in trouble and he was like i said always using the gotti name

after 1991 he was nothing

i have not read about him doing drugs

he was always a nobody

did not help himself though he beefed with gene while they were in prison together but alites story of slapping gene in the face is bullshit



i hope i explained this right i know its sometimes hard to understand my writing

What did Gene & alite beef about, do u know GR? Thanks

Gene said Joe Walsh was the best guitarist in The Eagles. Alite insisted that Don Felder was.

alite said he did not like the way gene was treating the italien mobsters and he said that gene was bullying joe gambino. Alite then said he slapped gene and told him to leave everyone alone and that as a thank you joe gambino gave alite a cruxivx now i think thats bullshit





see gene did not like the siggs neither did john i think that was why he did not like joe gambino gene was slapping joe and alite went over and said get of him and gene turned around and said who the fuck are you your not even made from then on things were tense but alite did not slap gene in the face he would not have made the day alive

gene did not want alite around the mob guys like the wiretap said gene felt uncomfortable being around him gene never liked him contray to alite they never did business alite had nothing to do with gene or john senior or even richie gotti


gene was always pushy though always fighting


alite reminds me of that fag lewis kasman kasman was lets just say fucking around with some of the blacks while in the can randy pizzolo so disgusted slapped kasman in the face and screamed your a disgrace to john gotti. Kasman then paid these lations to beat randy. bonannos wanted lewis dead but jackie the nose and junior saved him. kasman is a disgusting man robbed millions of the gotti even wore a wire when the mother had a stroke the guy deserved to get whacked if only junior and jackie the nose had let that fag get whacked

Nobody in the entire Gotti family has ever earned an honest buck in their lives.

What could Kasman possibly "steal" from any of them?

Look at the prison tapes of gotti...makes me believe a lot of what alite says rather than junior...gotti sr tells his daughter to tell a neghboor she would have her tounge cut out and her 10 year old son would be stuffed in a barrel... He constantly trashed blacks and Jews ...he was def an animal and dominated his family... I personally believe everything alite says except the money... He made alot and had nightclubs ands mansions but not a million a month more like a year

Thanks for the info GR, and I could just imagine Gene doing the things you describe. Mind u, in every book that mentions Gene ie Al D'Arco & Sammy's they have nothing but good things to say about him. Not surprised he likes to fight, Sammy said he had a "real mean streak"

Kasman robbed the robbers so to speak, but I guess they (Gotti sr) was dumb enough to let an outsider hold onto such a vast amount.

true al in his book said he was a man of honor so did sammy. But al was a bit of a bully himself while in the can.

gene is smart guy defo was popular on the streets but from what i hear has always been a mean pushy guy and has kept influence on the streets even in the can

no offense we all have our own opinions but what the fuck has those prison tapes got to do with what alite says he talks about junior gotti mainly and your right you have just proven alite wrong john was racist would a rasict guy have an albanien low level thug around him esp when he was boss of the family? he had that indian guy but that was mainly 70s and we all know what happened to him john was alert after he whacked him he did not need to meet alite

and like i said before those tapes have nothing to do with alite i dont understand the comparison

it was the money john left for the family yes it was illegal but thats wrong. Kasman spent it all on his fag partys.

worst bit was when he wore a wire on vicotira after she had her stroke, he wore a wire at gottis funeral even while doing the funeral speech the man disgust me he robbed his own kids he is an animal a wannabe all his life

Vinny Gotti wasn't and isn't the sharpest tool in the shead..

defo john and gene thought the guy was dumb it was pete and richie who thought he was something it was prob a last ditch attempt by john and pete too keep the gotti name alive esp with junior was in prison and out of the life

thinking about it the only gottis left on the streets is richie senior but he is not young put it like that but his kid richie junior is in the life


vincent was always dumb and that baker shooting was ridiculous i mean the baker did not fuck his wife he got the whole thing wrong

Exactly, what the hell do the Gotti prison tapes have to do with Alite. Gotti talked tongue and cheek a lot and racist comments made by italians who grew up in the 50's is very common.
Alite comes across as making himself out to be tougher than he was. He was never an actual boxer. Gimme a break. He also said he beat up Vito Guzzo ??? No way, Guzzo was about 2 inches from being made and Alite would of been dead. Again, he keeps deflecting the fact that he cooperated by bringing up Gotti jr's proffer.
Jr gave a Proffer that resulted in NO arrests while Alite actual took the stand many times and his cooperation did result in arrests.

completly agree. I am no fan of junior gotti he was arrogant and was living in the shadow of his father but if he wanted to he could have buried half of the gambino family if he flipped he had a proffer session where he mentions his father joe watts and danny m killing someone. I also think if my memory is correct he talks about johnny g. How he had interests in a garbage dump and how he did not do the silva murder


now he gave very little and the murder i think he made up remember danny m joe watts and johnny g hated junior (plus the carnelgia brothers) he was hurting his enmys


he would have never taken stand no matter what alite or geogre say


it would disgrace his familys name so what did he do he went through four rico trials where he was treated in the last trial in humanely. He was with the terrorists before the last trial and he talks about how him and vinny basancio were in solitary for awhile together

no matter your opinion of the guy alot of people would fold when facing four rico trials each of those trials carrying life sentences

V Gotti should have stuck to stealing hubcaps. As far as J Gottti abhorring drug users, he sure associated with enough of them ie: "Roach" Rampino

roach was an H guy, he had many coke guys around..they all played with coke

Well said gangster report. 99.99% of mob guys, never mind regular people, would of folded after 1 rico triall, forget about 4 . Lets not forget his horrible conditions in solitary.
That was government corruption at its worst. JR Gotti could have decimated the gambino's in two seconds but he never did. He had a wealth of information and never folded. I think his one time proffer session was out of anger and after a few minutes he realized that wasnt the route he wanted to go.
No one mentions that though, it doesnt make any head lines.
All that said, Gotti jr was a bully and abused a lot of people. No excuses there.
Alite keeps saying he turned after he learned of the proffer, thats bullshit. He turned after he knew he was getting extradicted. Had Alite came out and said, " hey, i disnt want to spend the rest of my life in jail", rather than blame Gotti jr, he would be much more respected.

101st Avenue had half a dozen spots in the small "legit" storefronts surrounding the Bergin. Right up to the Church on the opposite side of the street. So they weren't just moving bulk, they were pushing fucking envelopes. John didn't take junk money off his crew right there on 101st? Give me a fucking break.

Big difference between 101st avenue and pleasant avenue.

Agree. need to own what you do in life. save a rep? can't happen when you flip..but say what the facts are without blaming everyone. you can at that point be credible

Of course there was a difference. East Harlem was Ground Zero. And by the seventies, 101st was a much nicer and residential area. But that doesn't change the fact that there were Gotti crew members dealing out of those storefronts. And I find it impossible to believe that he wasn't aware of it and that he didn't get his cut.

there is turning a blind eye (which i believe he did with his brother gene johnny carneliga angelo etc)


but most of the mob at that time were turning a blind eye to drugs paul castanalo took money of the siggs and they were are all junk guys
even the genovese guys some prob did just turned a blind eye. Even the chin was a junk dealer back in the day



there is a difference though with encouraging drug dealing that i dont believe john ever did or most capos



(rampino was a nobody he was a leg breaker started to deal and got addicted to H. He nearly flipped but he was too scared of john gotti he was back up shooter on castanalo murder. John was planning on killing him esp after the trial he told sammy gravano that)

I think Vinny wanted partnership in the store.When he didn't get it, he came up with this "screwing my wife" bullshit. Only way to retaliate against someone with "Friends".

I just meant the pleasant avenue guys were the major league while 101st were the minors.
Pleasant avenue had the biggest/ heaviest dealers in the city.

No doubt. Like I said, Ground Zero. Especially the Genovese and Lucchese families. Galante came out of the neighborhood, so you had a small Bonanno presence. And you never hear much about the Gambinos in East Harlem but they were there. Tony Baker had his club right by Andy's Colonial, and Braciole inherited that crew before moving it up to the Bronx.

why did braciole move it back to the bronx? did the colmobos ever have a presence

The neighborhood was turning into a cesspool. They all eventually moved up to the Bronx and Westchester.


Not really, and they've never had a presence in the Bronx or Westchester, either. Although Greg DePalma and Richie Fusco were pretty close. Richie split his time between Brooklyn and Scarsdale, so he hung out wherever Greg was shaking some poor fuck down when he was in town.

from what i hear vinny really did think he baker was fucking his wife if my memory is correct it was not sanctioned either. The guys involved were vinny gotti, richie junior, Angelo Ruggiero Jr. The shooter was this guy who turned out to be a fag he flipped later on robert something he got his button then was ordered to do a hit found a funny story on angelo

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/gamb...ticle-1.1100909


dont know what the feds were doing putting the guy in his cell

greg was a crazy fuck i read about this story where he shot a random guy s car for fun while the guy was un the car

dumb as well i mean spent his whole time on the phone and yearh your right about the shaking down bit there was quite a few legit business men who testified against greg about him shaking them down not to mention bringing in a cuban FBI agent into the mob. And that letter he wrote to craig was disgusting as well and doing business in front of the kid while in a coma is just disgusting.


why did the gambinos allow him back in after he plotted to kill nicky lasora. Must have been tony g he brought him in greg and tony seen alot together

18th ave sicilians moved a lot of H,lot more than Gottis crew.Evem the Derobertis cafe crew

Where does Richard Gotti fit into the family dynamic? Ive read that John didnt think to highly of him, but I also read that he was at one time or still may be a capo? Im assuming hed be out of Howard Beach right?

100%

richie john thought was dumb like he thought peter was but that was then this is now not saying richies smart but he is not as dumb as people think last gotti him and his kid on the streets and gene coming out soon. last i heard richie is one of the big boys in howard beach i think he is running things or at least a senior figure he is getting old though richie like all the gotties.

..The "shooter" would go into the store even after his attempt.That is a funny story..lol..

Alite is really the only source for him being around Gotti Sr. And I personally don't believe a boss would be hanging around and socializing with an Albanian associate. I believe Gotti Sr said few words to Alite whenever he was seen around Jr. But I don't think they had the "mentor/apprentice" relationship that Alite implies in his book. Willie Boy had an Italian mother & an Native American father, and there are numerous sources which have stated Gotti's many "not-quite-acceptable-kinda-racist" nicknames he had for Willie Boy and how he referred to him, same with Carmine Fatico. It'supposedly one of the reasons he became an informant, he couldn't be made and he didn't like the way he was treated at times by Gotti & Fatico because of his race.

exactly not one FBI informer around gotti sr has ever even mentioned alite in there 302s or in there testimonary


even junior story there is little to back up alite claims post 1991



wille boy did not like the way gotti and fatico laughed at him but dont think that was the reason for his cooperation john liked willie boy they were friends when they were growing up.

The main reason he flipped was because fatico promised to take care of his family when he went away for some prison time in the late 60s early 70s but he never supported them he was very bitter then the feds came along offered to support his family financially if he cooperated plus he did not have to worry about getting pinched that bitch got him whacked trying to get him to flip still dont understand why he did not leave queens he cant have believed the promise john made and the colombos wanted him dead after he flipped allie boy sent word. Willie boy was a top guy though killed a few guys if he wanted he could have buried john.




funny thing about alite is that alot of what he testified in court and wrote in his 302 is not in his book that tells you alot lets just say the story has changed in alites book



the whole book is just trying to blame junior for everything its mostly bullshit and i am no fan of junior he was a bully but i will trust people like scars over some low level thug

I think Willie boy was caught in the early/ mid 80's with coke in hos trunk and that precipitated his decision to coperate.

willie boy flipped back in 1970 if my memory is correct he bacame a FBI informer giving information for money. He was in jail for hjacking. He was a well known herion dealer.

He was the feds top source in gottis crew but a prosucter named Diane Gicacalnoe in an attempt to get willie boy to become a goverment witness and give up all the murders leaked him being an informer to the press the feds begged her not to they saw willie boy as someone who could give info on the gotti crew a source they gave money he gave info but she would not lisen. FBI withdrew from the case in fury. Willie boy was so angered he said he would not cooperate and asked john for forgiviness john told willie boy that he would let him live but he was shelved. Willie boy dumbly believed him two years after the trial he was gunned down by bonanno soldiers. The colomobos demanded he was to be killed allie boy perisco sent a representative.
that bitch prosecuter got willie boy whacked

Another long time gotti informer billy batisa i think is name was a well known hijacker he once expressed shock that willie boy was not inculed in the 1983 herion indictment as wille boy was a well known dealer.

billy was a hijacker a top informer well diane leaked to the press that he was also an informer in an attempt to get him to cooperate. Billy terrified fled the country and was never seen again. He left a note to his handler saying he was fleeing and he did not blame the feds but the prosecutor

the last of three gotti crew members was james something cant remember his second name a coke dealer who cooperated a gotti assoiate he did testify