Is Pat Nee an informant?

How could he possibly get off with no indictment s in light of the testimony in the Bulger trial, plus make a whackass TV show about bookies on the Discovery channel?

On 30 November 1984, Patrick Nee picked up 32-year-old John McIntyre from a bar and lured him to Nee's house with a case of beer and a promise of a party. At this time, Nee knew that McIntyre was cooperating with federal law enforcement against Nee for the smuggling of 7.5 tons of automatic weaspons, machine guns, rocket launchers, plastic explosives, bullet proof vests, and ammunition aboard the Valhalla. Nee also knew that just 17 months prior, Arthur Barrett had been lured to Nee's house and murdered. Barrett's body remained where Nee had buried it in the cellar of Nee's house into which he was now luring McIntyre. Nee knew that his associates sat in his house armed with machine guns waiting for Nee to return with McIntyre. Like Barrett, McIntyre was murdered in Nee's house and buried in Nee's cellar beside the corpse of Barrett. Nee remains a classic suspect in the murder of McIntyre. He was the last person seen in public with McIntyre. He had the motive, opportunity and means to murder McIntyre. His intent to murder McIntyre is evident in the method he employed that copied his murder of Barrett the year before.

Between 1999 and 2003, US Attorneys in Boston immunized two of Nee's associates who were present with him at his house that day and thus had proof of McIntyre's murder. Despite relying on these witnesses to indict other associates who were present, the US Attorneys decided not to indict Nee. The US Attorneys' willingness to ignore Nee's involvement in McIntyre's murder has fueled speculation that Nee is a protected federal infomant.

Nee fled Boston after being informed by Bulger that Federal agents were looking for him. After several years in hiding, he was arrested in 1987 and served an 18-month sentence in Federal prison. Although Nee claims Bulger told him to flee, it is suspected that his federal law enforcement handlers in the US DOJ advised him to flee.[citation needed] The statutory sentence Nee faced for possessing and smuggling 7.5 tons of automatic weaspons, machine guns, rocket launchers, plastic explosives, bullet proof vests, and ammunition was a life sentence. Bulger was convicted in 2013 of possessing one of the same guns that Nee had aboard the Valhalla and he received a life sentence. The fact that Nee received only an 18-month sentence at a soft federal facility instead of the mandatory life sentence has fueled speculation that Nee was a federal informant.

After his release in 1989, Nee was disgusted by McIntyre's murder and, motivated increasingly by Irish nationalism, he decided to cut his links to Bulger. He put together a crew of his own and began planning Armored car robberies to raise money for the IRA. He was arrested by the FBI during an armored car robbery in Abington, Massachusetts on January 13, 1990. He was sentenced to 37 years in Federal prison[citation needed], but was released after April 2000.[9]

When Nee was arrested in Abington, Massachusetts on January 13, 1990, Nee was masked and in possession of another machine gun which again carried a mandatory life sentence. Instead of being sentenced to the minimum mandatory life sentence, Nee was given a sentence of 37 years. Federal Sentencing Guidelines at that time prohibited early release or credit for "good behavior" in a federal prison. Despite being convicted for a second time of charges that mandated a life sentence, Nee only served about 8 years at "soft" federal facilities and was released 29 years earlier than his parole date. The US Attorney's Office in Boston has refused to explain Nee's early release and why they failed to oppose it. Nee's release after eight years of what was a mandatory minimum life sentence fueled speculation that he is a protected federal informant

It seems there were at least three or four murders they couldve had him on over the years, and his armed robbery crew, and his gun running schemes to the IRA . The fact that he hasnt had multiple life sentences makes it seem almost impossible he wasnt a protected informant.


I wonder what howie winters reputation is like nowadays? On one hand the guy should be a legend after all his been through and to be free man now. But on the other hand he did testify in open court during the bulger trial.

I didn't think Howie was involved in the Bulger trial....

Yaeh Howie didn't testify and I thinks still around he got probation on the last case. The one he was trying get back a loan saying he's with the north end not winter hill. The thing with the pat nee he got off cause the gun wasn't a functional machine gun or some bull shit at the end of the day he's a known killer not as old as the rest of the Bulger crew. Black mass movie review dumb bad screenplay great customs depp real good but it went on alot of bullshit to make the movie more about whitey but forget that Steve flemmi and his brother and crew were killing guys left an right in the 60tys when whitey wasn't even a hickup. And Steve was inclement back to 62 or so.

Shit your right i was thinking about john martarano, nevermind.

Are people still doing business with him, and what do the guys on the street have to say about him?

I remember seeing Martarano having lunch at the Cambridgside Galleria mall a couple of years ago. I was sitting there thinking, shit, that guy sitting over there has murdered twenty people and he's having lunch at the mall!WTF!

Use to see winter at Sam's club thought the same thing. It came out during whitey trial he was a shooter with a m1 or some shit 1hit.

Yes Martorano and Weeks supposedly still walk the streets of Southie and Boston.

I watched Black Mass last night and yes it was all about Whitey. Made it look like he was the mastermind behind everything while he sat around and chewed out everyone around him.

And the kid that played Kevin Weeks was terrible.

Todd from breaking bad he was alright. But he'll always be uncle Jesse nephew Todd with the spider in a jar.

Yea they fattened his face up and tried to make him look bulked up as Weeks was no small dude. Safe to say they blew it casting him for the role.

How bout the hippy dude from dazed in confused as flemmi wtf. He must be good friends with depp.

He sucked as Flemmi as did whoever wrote his part. Most of the movie he just sat back and said a few words here and there while Whitey bitched him out.

They shouldn't have had other players in the movie such as Martarano, Weeks, and Flemmi because they didn't do shit.....

Disappointed at the innacuracies of this story. Doesn't seem too well done.

As being a mass hole cool visuals bad story. That needs to be a Netflix series like narcos but never mind the whole Bulger saga is over let it go to many books. In reality there's some mobster still Ali e who did just as good as him with out the FBI help. 2 living guys probaly not to happy to be mentioned in the film vinny animal and carozza. As to the original question he's lucky weeks never put him in the hallohan murder car.

People are desperate for an Irish Mob story. There aren't many, so that's why the Bulger story gets told over and over. And, the FBI complicity makes it juicy.

Without them, he's locked up for life in the early 80's or whatever, and no one cares.