Carmine Agnello arrested

"Carmine “The Bull” Agnello, the ex-hubby of famed mobster John Gotti’s daughter, was busted Wednesday morning in Ohio in connection with a probe into stolen cars and car parts"
http://nypost.com/2015/07/15/john-gottis-ex-son-in-law-arrested-in-car-theft-probe/

Fucking moron. He married into gazillions and he still can't fucking help himself. I hope he gets sent up just because of his sheer stupidity.

And if someone mentions a Cleveland-Gambino connection I'm gonna scream. That's not downplaying Cleveland. I say that because Carmine got chased just like his brother-in-law. Period.

I haven't read the story linked but didn't he just get out of prison recently from a lengthy sentence?

Pizza, do you mean he was chased out of NY?

Edit: Read the link - I didn't realize he has been out since 2008. Wow.

Looks like the Gambino's are making serious inroads into Ohio, sending the bull out there to plant the flag.

*cheesy grin*

Apologies PB, couldnt help myself.

/me chuckles.

Wonder if there was a little Jewish lighting that started the fire

Allot of people getting picked up in Cleveland area must be A election year .

Carmine is a moron & NOT sent here to plant seed . He was basically told to leave NY.he owned bout 5 pull apart car yards.he was here w/ his brother,& joe jumbo burger & few guys. As of recent he brought about 5 other guys from ny. He also had dissed some guys sent there for normal business who were friends of cleve. guys or they mentioned their names & he basically said so what. No discount or anything.Also there are some big jewish guys in business of scrapping here & they pretty much control it.$$$$ to be made here- they take scrap metal to docks & export it to china who pays top dollar. So there are other people & ave. Involved as u can see .So wheater its retalitory or heat put on him ?? Who knows

LOL I wonder if that fire they had in the spring time was on purpose or just A accident.

This guy defo gets in the back to drive and wonders were the steering wheel is , just like is ex father in law used to say

That is Agnello's specialty. Back in the early 2000's he and several others were busted for illegal control of the auto scrap and salvage business in Queens, including sale of stolen auto parts.

stupid is what stupid does..

That was my whole point, buddy. He got chased YEARS ago, so I didn't want to read any nonsense from some kid about a possible Gambino-Cleveland connection .

looks like just state L.E. if he did anything over state lines ,i guessing yes, money, cars etc. he will get pinched by feds for something..another 10 shot coming his way

"Cleveland has been free of traditional organized crime for a while," [Cleveland's deputy police chief Edward] Tomba said. "We didn't want (Agnello) or any of his minions to get a foothold here in Cleveland."
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/07/former_gambino_crime_family_me.html

Does that end the Cleveland family debate?

Now THAT'S funny!

Sounds like retaliation ..stepping on some toes..didn't know mikey or jumbo were there too.

A close friend did time with carmine and he liked him a lot. He also said the other guys liked him as well.
PB, why was carmine chased or told to leave?

My teenaged daughter hates the minions because she says that too many OLD people use them in references to jokes and puns all over fb and the Internet

Lol I am cracking up because it's true ha ha



Ha ha Agnello makes me think of Vinny Barbarino. Stupidity wins in straight sets.

http://youtu.be/6zj5eyE1qUA

Sorry I jut had to add that.

Back on track---

I've heard a few versions. But I honestly believe that it was personal. Pete chased him over the divorce, and he probably shouldn't have been made to begin with.

Why so serious, AG?

Is carmine the bull related to sammy the bull?!! Seriously, out of all the nicknames in this world




Edit- does anybody remember the story where Carmine was assaulted and sent to the prison hospital a decade ago... I'd say around 1999-2001, I can't recall specifically

I used to be on another mob forum & someone on there who was supposedly friendly with Angela Gotti posted the story. With a link. But over the years I've not been able to find it.

The story goes, he was newly arrived when 3 guys were asking him questions. He told them to get lost and got beaten quite bad

Someone mentioned on the other site it was to do with a Lucchese skipper, You heard anything about that?

Yes, over something that happened at HB and something else. And it's true. But at the end of the day, my personal belief is that the Gambinos could have just slapped him on the wrist and that Peter didn't put up much of a fight because of the divorce.

Not that it matters, because once Peter went away and the Gottis finally lost control of the day-to-day (even though Peter was still listed as official boss for a few more years), they may have ended up chasing him anyway. Because he's a moron.

the post wrote something said he was still sending home tribute. just repeating what they wrote. my lil cack head cousin was or is a scrapper he had some shady guy place the at got hit by the feds back like 6 yrs ago when the copper prices were really high. even if you nailed it down shit was getting stolen. guy would open his shop any time of night as long it was 1k or better. he got smoked by feds. some crackheads where going to graves and stealing them flag holders of the vets one shop guy did a good thing bought them from the guys and put them all back. after 2012 probaly you need 2 ids to sell scarape in mass. theres always cops in the places to.

Don't worry, buddy. I won't shoot the messenger .

Stroc i have to agree about the.jewish lighting. I know you are well aware of things to make this comment.The jews pretty much have a very strong say & presence in scrapping in cleve. even to a point to say if & who can open up. Wether they are backed bycleve guys- i dont know- but i can for sure say they didn't allow some to open & had a few closed .Carmine also dissed some friends of cleve guys & they were very unhappy.& who knows , he may have been asked for $$ to operate or expand & they could have had heat put on him . There is so much more w/ this story- drugs , all the horses he had round the country - he had a stable out @ thistledown w/ a bunch of horses. There's a bunch of people sweating for sure !

Mikey & jumbo came w/ him - & he slowly brought some guys down here a few @ a time. He had just recently brought 5 down. As for being sent by gambinos to set foothold here - i just laugh it off. I think he was trying 2 make his own - since so many disliked him. & his arrogance & cocky attitude. Theres an article you can check back on- he was arrested by a park ranger for pissing in the park . Asshole told cop 'you know who the fuck i am ' -still arrested ! Odd thing is, the park is best known where fags hangout & sell sex! Im not saying anything, BUTT....

[quote=Spadine]Stroc i have to agree about the.jewish lighting. I know you are well aware of things to make this comment.The jews pretty much have a very strong say & presence in scrapping in cleve. even to a point to say if & who can open up. Wether they are backed bycleve guys- i dont know- but i can for sure say they didn't allow some to open & had a few closed .Carmine also dissed some friends of cleve guys & they were very unhappy.& who knows , he may have been asked for $$ to operate or expand & they could have had heat put on him . There is so much more w/ this story- drugs , all the horses he had round the country - he had a stable out @ thistledown w/ a bunch of horses. There's a bunch of people sweating for sure !




I am Gona go on a limb and say Mike pappada and his wife Both pictured in the mug lineup were the horse fixers . pappada is a trainer .

So the police probably bugged him for the scrap and stumble onto the race fixing ?








I am Gona go on a limb and say Mike pappada and his wife Both pictured in the mug lineup were the horse fixers . pappada is a trainer .

So the police probably bugged him for the scrap and stumble onto the race fixing ?

Why was he arrested by someone from the NYPD task force when this was in cleveland and a cleveland matter?

The dude a pretty big dude. Looks wide snuff they had to use 2 sets of cuffs. Hay if the guys a earner why let him go. Like they say your in it for life. The gottis are gone but maybe the new guys are thinking he's still Inducted and I'm sure that still makes him untouchable around the country so they a want a cutt. 500 bucks a month or something.

He probaly was also banned from the scrap thing In NYC. There was a big genovese kicked out of the fish market so he came up to new Bedford mass and started something wonder if he's still alive. Gotta be old.

and that can easily be why it happened. guy pisses off the wrong person. the wrong person tells the jake. happens more than people think.

Someone make a new chart with Agnello as Boss of Cleveland

He's no boss of cleveland ! He was here bcuz he left NY. He opened & operated lucrative businesses. Whether he was kicking back & to who- i dont know. I dont know if he was close or in good standing w/ salerno, but thats who cleveland tied to NY (the danny greene)situation/ j white asked fat tony for help.
Who knows ? He could have been sent here to get things going- w/ cleveland or a NY family

He was arrested by CPD - not FBI or nypd .just fyi . Im not being cocky just telling it as is .FBI tried for two yrs. & blank . CPD task Alone got him year & half.

Actually you obviously did NOT read the article.

The picture and the first thing there shows and says this...

Carmine Agnello is led away by Detective Lynn McCarthy (right) of the NYPD Organized Crime Division on Wednesday in Cleveland, Ohio.

You are absolutely correct / w some twists also. Carmine brought pappada here from PA to train for him.alot of horses were getting sick & shit- so cameras were set up.&it was clearly stated that mike & julie would train for him only. The other trainer was suspended & they had jockeys traing.Carmine had horses here he ran & in chicago & presque isle & who knows where else !but yeah horses were getting doped.

I was curious as to why the NYPD would have anything to do with affairs in Ohio anyway??

The Gotti name association. The Feds know that Carmine got chased. So does the State of New York, for that matter. But someone's obviously trying to make a name for himself at the State's Attorney's Office. And he'll be quick to imply the possibility of Carmine still having some clout within the Gambino Family, which is absolute hogwash. In short, it's politics as usual.

Does anyone know if Carmine had any blood relatives into the mob or just through marriage to Gotti?

Good ? Blackjack wtf would NYpd task force be doing there even if hes kicking back to ny thats interstate should be FBI jurisdiction you'd think

Agnello is a capo in the Cleveland faction of the Gambino's.

Exactly what Tommy said. It was also reported that Agnello's going to break off from the Gambino's and start a family of his own. His rapper son is being groomed to be the future boss, since he's street smart. Otherwise he wouldn't be a rapper.

I think its because Agnello was calling friends in NY and the phone taps picked up conversations related to scrap metal yards in NYC; nothing to do with mob stuff. Thats why NY law enforcement were involved but mostly because Ohio requested help just in case it was an LCN case which it was not.
Carmine living in Ohio had much more to do with his hot looking wife wanting to stay there than him being chased. Also, while in prison, he was fed up with all the Gotti family bull shit. Staying in Ohio was an easy decision for him p,us he wanted to be far from Victoria.

Correct, Carmine and three guys from Liverpool were given permission to start their own family. Unbelievably enough, Carmine is the cute one. You know, like McCartney.

As far as his son, when you grow up on the mean streets of Oyster Bay it really hardens you because your choices in life are so limited. It's tragic.


All true. But don't kid yourself, he didn't have much choice in the matter. Even after Pete went away and the Gottis lost the power for good, it was the new administration who told him that there was nothing left for him in New York. One of the Sicilians, in particular, can't stand him.

Even still... wouldn't Carmine have to get his "operation" signed off by somebody high up in Cleveland? And would this possibly get back on whoever gave the go ahead?

No clue, Mark. You know me much better than that. I don't speculate about areas that I know nothing about.

Friend of Henry, Strococs, JCB, Spadine, et al. These are the guys who know that town. The rest is just speculation, FBI files, and press reports. And you know how much use I have for that stuff most of the time.

Understood, pb. And I hear you about the feds work of fiction and drama.

It will be interesting to see the ripple effects of this bust and see how far it reaches.

You gotta think somebody involved is going to start chirping for the right deal - as in most of these cases. I know I shouldn't speculate but it sure gets you thinking...

Thanx PB but I'm really not a Cleveland guy. Other than the fellows from Mahoning and Trumbull Counties, I knew no one from Cleveland. My experience was always with Pittsburgh people.

Now that one of our best resources has disappeared, we'll have to rely on Strococs and/or Spadine to chime in.

Yeah but did you hear any rumblings of heavy hitters with the Gotti/Agnello blood being shipped in from NY??



Personaly, if I had owed a debt and this crew came after me I would pay up ASAP

By who exactly, the family isn't even viable.

Yes, I could see that...FBI would make more sense in that regard.

But of course the headline credit for the arrest was given from the ugly "bitch face" from the NYPD Organized crime task force

I would be pissed if I was the Cleveland police chief...

Well I would be pissed if I lived in Cleveland period...

At least were not Detroit. How's that Johnny football pick working out. Not so goooood.

People in Cleveland were well aware of his presence. But who Who would be that stupid to go into A scam with A high profile Gambino member? People want Low key operations stay way under the radar. Nobody wants A high profile guy. ITs 2015!! Also Permission from who? Cleveland is A open city for the most part. There may be A few things left but nobody is running the city like that.


Carmines bigger problem would be the quasi legitimate scrap yards complaining about him . Hey could this simply be A local ghetto car theif got busted and turned him in ?
Cleveland PD is really going to pump this up . Look at the bad press they had lately. They need the good headlines.

If im the boss in NY I'm not letting a made guy on the shelf or not make a killing in another city with the help of the gambino name and everyone in Cleveland knowing he was or is part the family. I'd want a lil taste. Heard he was bout to go to war with bone thugs over the east 1999 turf.

Rap In 1995. Crazy year way. Before all this domestic terrorism which is getting way out of hand. What happens to the bloods and crips.

My personal opinion is that, as long as the word didn't get back to Cefalu that Agnello is directly using the Gambinos to get ahead, he(Cefalu) didn't want any ties to Agnello and that he didn't really give a fuck what Agnello is doing with his life.

I'm gonna cut to the chase, though, CB (no pun intended with the word chase). Carmine got chased. There are no ifs, ands or buts about it. If he was dumb enough to try to bullshit these Cleveland guys into believing that he was still under the Gambino flag, he's probably better off in prison.

Fucking idiot. 55, looks 65, about to go in for a ten piece all out of sheer stupidity and not being able to control his criminal minded tendencies. It's not like he needed the money.

I have no pity for this moron. And I'll be honest, when he was going through the divorce from Vicki, I felt bad for HIM. You think it's easy being married into THAT family?

But today he has no excuse.

Oh, pizza, I have no doubt about that, you and a few others made it very clear and I have no reason to believe otherwise.

I was referring to what pmac said, the "If I was a NY boss..." post.

Yes it is true they should not be, or arent a viable family...but they do have some made guys kicking around, making a living earning off traditional mob rackets.

I can see some home grown guys not take too kindly to a New Yorker coming into their town and doing business.

It did sound like some tension was there.

I thought this guy was rich before he went to prison in NY?

Unless Vicki spent all his money he should have been able to retire and spend his millions. Instead, he is headed back to jail.

With his record and just the fact he is made and was a Gotti guy...they are going to HAMMER him

No one in cleve believed he was here from gambinos. They easily could have found out. & they stayed away from him knowing his stupidity would cost him . So they let him go bout & stayed away. They were pissed ,& whos to say their ties to politicians & such , aren't who had heat put on him ?

He went into good old boys country, and they zapped his ass. What did the old man say about him... Does he get in the back seat and wonder where the steering wheel is? Not too bright. Guys like him just refuse to accept the fact that even if he was doing everything the right way, those locals would still cause havoc, based on their gossipy loud mouths. Essentially, he was begging to get popped

Agnello was working with Danny Famma on the New york end who is or was connected to the gambinos.

You are 100% correct. Not that danny was doing anything wrong.

Or they weren't going to indict him on flimsy charge on shit charges after the baffled murder indictment.

Gambino family mobster Carmine Agnello’s propensity to repeat history – more specifically the violent, illegal kind http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/bl...y-to-repeat-his

This guy is a fucking idiot in my opinion. Just cant get it right. After reading this post from the beginning, I find myself asking "what happened to Pizzaboy?" They should make him cell mates with Gravano.