The Bosses

I have been reading for thirty years or so how Nicky Scarfo was a boss that just killed.
Now if you took the other bosses and did a total of guys and girls that were murdered would it even come close to Nicky sr.

I am a horrible researcher but I bet Paul Castellano the so called white collared boss has double or triple of Nicky sr.

I just don't get why everyone says that Nick was the worst by far,he did one that was real bad, but the rat father lived .

Here is one most don't know or maybe they do and I never hear it.
Joe jr. Salerno everyone says his father was not connected,wrong...he was and the guy he was close with is the reason why Nick sr went after him.

What other Boss come close ? And are much worse then Nick...

I think he may be far far from the worst...

Casso and Amuso come to mind, like 36 hits or so?

I am guessing that the DeMeo was killing with the go ahead of the Boss,and without but for the most part he killed with" the order and he killed over 200 people, and that alone puts him way over Nicky sr.

Im not sure if that figure is actually accurate.

Most of Roy's hits were done off the record... Paul only okayed like half a dozen of them. Nino okayed some more, without Paul's knowledge. The rest of them were on Roy and his crew.

But it doesn't seem like an accurate figure to me though. He might have a decent amount of hits on his name, but 200?

I thought the same thing ,till I looked at few sites and I know some are bull,but yea can you imagine 200 !

Did not know that ,he was killing for Gambino also right ?

Scarfo's solution for everything was Kill!Kill!Kill Castellano,Casso and Amuso ecc even ordered to kill many more that scarfo but the 5 family are very huge compared with the Philly family.

In mafia prince the family under Bruno has 8 capos and 100+ associate after scarfo just 40-50 and lost Atlantic City,so scarfo's bloodthirst was more lethal for the family.

scarfo sr. has that notion as one of the worst bosses ever because he literally killed his own family, same as casso/amuso.
From the sheer killings pov i would guess that the oldschool bosses were much more blood thirsty, esp in the 30s/40s... but they didn't bring down a whole family, like the ones mentioned first.

also, tony soprano was a horrible boss - at the end his family is more or less rubbed out.

Sometimes I wish Federal inmates could computers for more than education and email. I can just picture Nicky Scarfo sitting in the prison computer lab on gangsterbb fuming while we all call him a psychotic idiot on a daily basis.

no denying scarfo was a murdering psychotic, he ravaged his family, hard to think of one as bloodthirsty, didn't he while murdering a victim say something like " I like it, I like it"

I read he brought 9y old Leonetti with him when he was getting rid of a body. Not sure if all these rumors about him are true, but the result of his regime at least shows he was an incompetent boss.

I really don't think scarfo was as much as a homicidal maniac as people portray him to be... honestly I think he was just a no bullshit boss who acted without hesitation... really when you look back over all the hits he ordered, almost all of them were somewhat justified in that life I think.. not like casso who seemed like he was smoking crack he was so paranoid started killing everyone around him, even his loyal guys.. when loyal guys start dropping it really fucks everything up.. makes everyone second guess and start thinking that you can get knocked off for literally nothing... turning loyal skippers and soldiers into rats.
fat pete perfect example

This is exacly what I am talking about. The casual observer or woman think of this guy as maniac.
The people in the life or on the edges of it know the real reasons behind almost everything he did and "dsbaloo" hit it right on the head .

Scarfo was not a homicidal maniac,he was very smart and very cautious.(in his world)
The reason he did what he did and the way he did it ,is because of the mob politics.

If you were to understand Philly from the start then you would totally understand why he did what he did and why.(and what just happened to two bosses before him)as he watched.

And like I said the guys that know there stuff or were around the life it is just cause.
Like I said before all but one or two ,and the one was a very desperate move to stay out of prison for life.(did not work).

Now if you listen to Tommy Del or N Caramandi before they became rats ,They were all in ,but as soon as they rat and are going to write a book all of a sudden Scarfo is crazy.
Those to were kissing Nicky sr ass every chance they got ,and were it to the same shit.
Tommy Del was killing people on his own ,and doing every nasty thing he could and he after the fact is one of the biggest liars out there.
And the Crow has again pulled a scam on this whole thing saying Nick sr was going to kill him right after he got busted.
I do not believe the guy that told him that (Long John).

Understand the two factions of the Philly mob and you will understand what Nicks thought process was..

I love this " I just love this "

Not so much so back in the late 70's , and after they opened the books,they were up there in numbers.

I think Scarfo Sr was feared more than a Paul Castellano because he had a reputation for killing irrationally. Scarfo's reign over the Philadelphia underworld was accompanied by an atmosphere of paranoia.

But that's only because that's what New York wanted.

But yeah, Paul Castellano probably killed a lot more.

Not just Big Paul. All the other Bosses did, also Bruno the so called "Docile Don" killed, or had more killed . And so did all the bosses before Nick sr in Philly....

Do you think Carlo Caputo (boss of Madison) ever ordered any hits? Theoretically every boss has to on certain points of their careers, but the Madison family was so small and insignificant that I am not sure if Caputo ever had to order hits. I mean, if no competition was interested in his territory, there would be no need, although I don't know much about the Madison mafia history.

Dwalin I am sure his term could have been an easy one.
But for as long as i can remember things came from the north that could not be as easy to get from other borders and ports.

But anything is possible...

Angelo Bruno more bodies than Scarfo? Are you sure about that? I'm genuinely curious, not sarcastic or anything.

Yea I am sure....

And not just him ,the bosses before ,Philly was and still is a killer town.

Based on my useless internet knowledge Bruno was responsible for these killings

Whispers DiTullio
Dominick Reds Caruso
Joey McGreal
2 approved for Caponigro I think
3 approved for Scarfo

I agree with you that Scarfo was in many ways a BETTER boss than Bruno but by no means less violent. Caponigro says Bruno nixed several killings. Kind of unheard of with Scarfo no?

how can there be any debate. scarfo was a sick killer, and Bruno ran a family many years more than scarfo, look at what scarfo did to his family.

why did leonetti become a snitch? because he was told to hit his friend salvy testa. nicky scarfo, yeah some boss. a murdering dog.

just my opinion.

And you are someone on the outside looking in.
I am talking about the people in the life ,totally different.
And we are not talking opinions here cos then it would be like assholes...
I know the guy was a killer ,they all were / are for that matter.
But people in the life don't see it that way ......