Colombos will be better with Crazy Joe G as boss ?

It's just my idea but if Joe Gallo with the help of don carlo could become the boss of the family, wouldn't have been better? unlike Persico who had brothers, cousins, sons and nephews who in a nepotistic way give power inside the family, Gallo over his brother had only 5 or 6 allies to made ; also there would be a Persico's men killing including Greg Scarpa who was an informant of the FBI, and then after the commission trial Gallo would leave the power to an another boss and it wouldn't have led to the third colombo war.

just my idea, what do you thinks about ?

And if you have to say that the threat is stupid, I say to you that had been there and it will be worse than this.

The brother would have been boss , not Joey.
There were times that his brother would send Joey packing out of state.I am not sure but Joey was not right upstairs....

Yeah, Larry for sure.

Al is the smartest one anyway. That whole fiasco did him a big favor. He ended up with the right people as a direct result of that whole thing .

I highly doubt that. People like Crazy Joey Gallo never last long. And like Serp pointed out, Gallo´s elevator never reached the top floor...so to speak.

And where have you been? You don't call, you don't write .

I´ve been busy. As you konw, a lot of drama is going on overthere.

He's been workin nights ma....

gallos missed persico on that hit attempt ..huge mistake..changed history..gallo still never would have been more than a captain.

Why you say so ? Persico isn't more smart that Gallo,Joey was a tought guy and was respected on the street,for sure more than Profaci,his only big mistake was of go at umberto's for his birthday; there are dozen of men that want to kill you and you go to a restaurant ? this is insane.

Have some question:

After Gallo get out of jail in 1971 the captains are all for Persico or there another capo that would become the boss like Sonny Franzese ?
Why the genoveses made Larry Gallo ? and why don't Persico don't try to whack him ?

ive read many books about joey gallo, the best one being 'JOEY' by Donald goddard, and he researched pretty good, joey was a big mouth bully. he was feared in red hook but, never respected. pete Hamill wrote about him, and said he always wanted to be like Richard widmark in "kiss of death"

when he went in front of congress, dressed all in black with dark glasses, that told most people that he was an attention seeking moron.

he went to prison for 9 years for shaking down some cheap check cashing joint, he was never smart enough to run himself , much less a family.

he was nothing all his life but a disaster.

Kinda off subject but I read somewhere the Colombo family allowed Albert to go to the genovese with punchy but they always nixed them when there name would come up to be made. Maybe hallo got it quicker but even in the late 80tys when Vic oreana boss he kept beefing with punchy till chin forced them to let it go. Guess it was a real sore spot for the Colombo family to let them 2 walk all over Brooklyn under another flag. Think scarpa mentions this. It really pissed lil Vic off.

Even sonny Fran as far as 2006 on his sons wiretap called all blast a mutt dog. So the Colombo family has no love for him.

If al blast is alive probaly 80 probaly active guys a lifer. Did he ever get a long bid or any. Read him and the guy punchy were co capo in red hook for ever.

Watching the frank sintra HBO thing board was Jilly rizzo a made guy yes or no?

No.

Part 2 is really like a history listen fascinating.

ie, hissen går inte hela vägen upp, bra direktöversättning hårigaknogarna.....just one swede to another...

I always wondered that too was albert made really late in life? Wasnt his transfer from Colombos to Genovese in the late 70s?

Not Joey. Larry was Michael to Joey's Sonny. In fact, I can't think of a better time to use that analogy.

Larry slapped his brother around for having no sense a couple of times. Joe Colombo reinstated him, as a capo no less, even though Larry kidnapped Joe just a few years past.

I don't know much about Albert except he must have been a pipsqueak around that time. The west side clearly have a sixth sense for talent. On paper taking in Albert and Punchy looks questionable.

Thanks for the info Barrett didnt know that bout Larry...curious to find out more bout Albert, you're right the WS had an eye for sharp low key earners that command respect

How long was Larry a capo for? I feel like it wasnt that long but I may be confusing him with someone else

Ha! The Swedes are taking over this board! :-)



Larry was never a skipper. I know it is mentioned that he was in some books and possibly in articles but that actually isn´t the case. Larry died in 1968. Both him and Joey were made but not Albert who sometime after Joey´s death transfered his Mafia affiliation to the Genoveses. Albert was then made with that Family. Although it does happen, cases of MADE guys transfering from one Family to another are rare. Albert Gallo has made a ton of money, but most of it came from his eating establishment, not from any rackets. I don´t think he ever was the criminal mastermind type.

What do you mean eating establishment?Did he own a restaurant in South Brooklyn?

Yes. But I think it was in Little italy. Possibly he still owns it.

My bad about Larry's rank. I swear one of the maryferrell files placed him at that rank. Must have got it wrong. Thanks for the info about albert.

hk also think scarpa was saying larry was a capo in his 302files right up till he died that he made some peace with colombo. wasnt it around the time that crew jumped neil at the coppa.

Thanks pmac, that was def my source . Hk which crew did Gallo and Iliano merge under in the westside? Probably one that was geographically close or in red hook

As others have said Joey would have been a disaster as a boss and I doubt he would of had the support as other more knowledgable posters stated . He was the Gotti of the 70s , was proud to be a gangster and it wasn't just a money thing.

But wow did Al make out ( sorry said Larry before) , got out of that Scarpa rat infested family where I'm sure he would have been pinched , landing in an ideal spot where some of their guys actually do what's best for the group and not their own personal greed . I wouldn't be surprised if that's a big reason so few of their guys flipped . Look what happened to guys like Scars and all those Luchesse guys during Casso where first chance they could , their already mega rich bosses made up any BS reason to take their lucrative rackets and end any $ that would go to support their wife / children etc. , talk about stupidity , you do that to a guy with a family when he is arguably at his worst from a mental standpoint and what do you expect them to do, remain loyal ? It's also a good reminder how the smart ones operate , bought tons of real estate , kind of hard to take that illegally lol .

Then their are guys like Manna who probably up until somewhat recently had someone managing his book. Even though he was gone he wasn't tossed aside and forgotten

I feel like i heard a wiretap where someone said your family is only as strong as its boss and im not sure guys like Gigante , Crea and then on the flip side completely moronic and greedy guys like Casso and Vic show the validity in that comment, something I really haven't thought about until more recently .It all comes down to management I guess, lol , and the bosses that put the family in front of personal greed aren't doing so bad today

Ok sorry for that rant , having said that there are so many Persicos now , doing a lot of the legit stuff required to be successful today . At one time Persico and Scarpa brought that fam to its knees , but now Persico as the figure head maybe isn't such a bad thing while others make calls behind the scenes . I don't think they are on their death bed like many think , it could always be worse , look at the Bonnano's lol

I have gone through the Scarpa files a couple of times but haven´t found anything on Larry Gallo being a captain. If I missed it somehow, please point me out to which part and appr what page where it says so. I know for sure that both the Gallo brothers were dirctly under Magliocco for awhile and then they were probably put to be under Harry Fontana. After their expulsion, Larry was brought back and put to be in Colombo´s decina. I don´t think there is any mention of Larry becoming a skipper after that.



They were most likely put to be under Toddo Marino and after his death in 1979, they were probably under Tommy Contaldo and Alphonse Malangone.

joe gallo was a very tough guy, but because you are violent and a killer does not say you make a boss, huge difference, check gotti, albert a. nicky scarf, gas vic .

[quote=bronx]joe gallo was a very tough guy, but because you are violent and a killer does not say you make a boss, huge difference, check gotti, albert a. nicky scarf, gas vic . [/quote

The one with boss material in that family was Larry and to a lesser extent the blast

And weren't they kind of under Nicky Bianco at one point too?

if it was rainy i go over the friends of ours site he got the scarpa files on the side but it takes a while of diging. hk probaly write but i swear i remeber reading scarpa saing after colombo striped all the capos and did a head count of the family it was 114 he put larry something to appease i think but he was dying of cancer and was getting parts cutt off of him i think. guess there mom was a tough old lady. some guy wrote a book about the gallos lions din or someshit maybe ill find it cheap but after the alite/jr books i think im done. just to much bullshit the alite book was the worst other then the 302. serioulsly looking for the book on that mexican mob guy the boxer he turned informant. mob books are to much bs. mickey scars cant write abook cause he probaly still has famiyl in there so he doesnt want to bring a case against them or his kid.

The book about the mexican mafia guy is called the black hand by Chris blatchford,pmac. I'm considering buying it looks a good read, and your right both books by Jr and alite were terrible. I haven't read a great mob book since five families.