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Posted By: mikeyballs211

mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 01:38 PM

I know of the famous luciano prostitution case and I think there was some prostition controlled by Marcello in NO, but after that does anyone know of crews/families/made men involved in organized prostitution?...Not talking about controlling and shaking down strip clubs where I know some incidental prostitution occurs

admittedly Im a mob novice but I cant recall reading anymore about the mob and prostitution. any insight would be much appreciated, thanks fellas
Posted By: blacksheep

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 01:46 PM

The demeo crew had members that owned brothels and porn shops and peep shows where the girls were also 'for rent'. That's all I know for sure
Posted By: Alfa Romeo

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 02:35 PM

Look up Gambino and Russian gangster involvement. You might find something there.
Posted By: blacksheep

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 02:38 PM

Nino gaggi got indicted for taking girls across state lines for the purposes of prostitution. That was also a demeo crew related thing.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 02:41 PM

Even at their peak, the NY mob's ties to prostitution were peripheral, at best. And today? That's a Russian and Asian racket. And no, they're not bringing envelopes or kicking up to some goombah out in Massapequa or North Jersey.

The topless joints and the porn theatres on the old West Side are a different story. The mob's history there is as old as syphilis. But that's also a bygone way of life. Between Disney owning most of Times Square, and free Internet porn, they're basically out of that business today too.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 03:06 PM

The Chicago crime family was involved in prostitution since day one. Since the days of the notorious Levee district, whixh was a place with brothels filled with prostitutes, Max Guzik who was the father of Jake guzik, together with Big Jim Colosimo controlled over 200 prostitution houses. Also Jewish German mob boss,Michael "The Pike" Heitler operated brothels in Chicago since the late 1890s. Another famous pimp during the early days was Jack Zuta.He operated several brothels on west Madison Street.

Al's brother,Ralph Capone was also deeply involved. He operated his prostitution rackets out of Chicago.In the late 1920s he had big operations on Silver Street in Hurley, Wisconsin.Silver Street was full of girlie shows and brothels.He also had operations in Kansas city. During the 30's one of Chicagos most famous prostitutes was Virginia Hill.

Gus Alex, the Outfit's connection guy, who started his career working for Jake Guzik was also involved in the prostitution racket. Outfit associates Jim Rini,Frank Mustari, Robert Furey and Angelo Divito,once were arrested with a list of 100 prostitutes, suspected of organizing a racket to smuggle the prostitutes out of the country.

During the 1950's another big player in the prostitution racket was Jimmy The Monk Allegretti. Allegretti was the Outfits representative on the North Side and almost every hotel,tavern,bar or club on North Side held at least 20 of Allegretti's prostitutes night and day.Mostly the price for his hookers went from 20$ to 500$.Some of the girls even operated from Allegretti's meat markets.

During the late 50's Sam Giancana regularly smuggled prostitutes from the Philippines who were bought from Manila for few dollars and after they were sold in the U.S. and around the world.Giancana,together with Skinny D'Amato,owned the Cal Neva Lounge in Lake Tahoe.They were running a state wide prostitution ring out of the hotel.Also by this time one of Giancana's underlings Felix "Milwaukee Phil" Alderisio also controlled the prostitution racket in nearby Milwaukee.Willie Daddano was also running prostitutes out of the River Road Motel in Rosemont.

Also Joey Aiuppa took over some of the prostitution rackets.He's partner was Chicago’s most infamous keeper of the ladies,Madam Rose.She supplied expensive prostitutes to the wealthy, the powerful and the Chicago Mob.During the 60s and 70s Joey Doves became so close that he became her personal protector and they made a lot of money.

John Gattuso owned the French Doll Loung,the Playhouse,the French Casino and New Jamie's on North Clark Street which supposedly served as a meat market for rent boys and their admirers.The New Jamie's was well known as a place to pick up male prostitutes.He also had connections in the Sparrow's, The Gold Coast, and The Club Bath at 609 North La Salle Street.

From the 50’s untill the 80’s the Chicago mob also controlled prostitution in Las Vegas with the help of mobsters like Frank Panno and Gus "the Greek" Palladinos.Frank Panno was a partner in a multi-million-dollar call- girl ring with Doris "Dolly" Fischer, the notorious Buffalo Grove madam.

Also in 1990 a woman was accused for operating a nationwide prostitution ring and was videotaped when she met with William B.J. Jahoda and James Nicholas. The 200 woman ring brought prostitutes to Chicago from the East and West Coasts by using many apartments.The ring catered Chicago politicians, judges and many businessmen.

And as PB said, today most of the prostitutuion rings in Chicago and the U.S. are run by other ethnic groups,such as the Chinese mob, Russians and the Latin gangs



Posted By: Terence

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 03:30 PM

In the spring of 2010, Gambino capo Daniel Marino and about a dozen others were indicted for a lot of different reasons but one of the big ones was a charge for sex trafficking of a minor. From what I recall the feds tapped a soldiers phone who was driving the girls around.
Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 03:32 PM

Out here same thing the Asians seem to own that market. How do I know that? I worked with a lot of men. They'd usually invite me to go out to lunch with them since I was "one of the boys" but every once in a while they would tell me NO you can't come with us today. They all would come back to work with grins on their faces so I knew something was up. Then one of the places got raided and they were talking about it so I knew right away that's where they were going without me lol lol

Massage parlors
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Terence
In the spring of 2010, Gambino capo Daniel Marino and about a dozen others were indicted for a lot of different reasons but one of the big ones was a charge for sex trafficking of a minor. From what I recall the feds tapped a soldiers phone who was driving the girls around.


Fucking hell. Kind of puts paid to that whole "men of honor" stuff you hear, eh?
Posted By: Footreads

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 03:54 PM

I think the Russian whore houses are interesting the girls bath you before they have sex with you.

I have no clue who they are paying to operate I imagine the local cops.
Posted By: Terence

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Terence
In the spring of 2010, Gambino capo Daniel Marino and about a dozen others were indicted for a lot of different reasons but one of the big ones was a charge for sex trafficking of a minor. From what I recall the feds tapped a soldiers phone who was driving the girls around.


Fucking hell. Kind of puts paid to that whole "men of honor" stuff you hear, eh?


Absolutely Moe. Hell before that he even ordered a hit on his own nephew (Hydell murder).
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: Terence
In the spring of 2010, Gambino capo Daniel Marino and about a dozen others were indicted for a lot of different reasons but one of the big ones was a charge for sex trafficking of a minor. From what I recall the feds tapped a soldiers phone who was driving the girls around.


Fucking hell. Kind of puts paid to that whole "men of honor" stuff you hear, eh?

True, and I'm the first guy to tear apart the myth about honor in that world. But that was an isolated incident involving a bunch of bottom feeders throwing Marino's name around. It was the exception, not the norm. The New York families were never as involved with prostitution as the Outfit guys out in Chicago. And today it's almost unheard of, trust me on that. Oh, and that mutt Hydell was related through marriage. Just so everyone knows.
Posted By: blacksheep

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 04:32 PM

Everything PB explained is on point. The demeo crew were notorious for not giving a shit. Plus even they used associates to run the business under their flag.
Posted By: oldschool3

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 04:37 PM

Prostitution has always been a very peripheral revenue stream for LCN...maybe with the exception of strip joints and "massage parlors." Those two seem to have stood the test of time. The money is easy and its all cash....two favorite staples of CN smile
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/21/15 07:55 PM

Even before the Gambino/Bonanno case with the Russians a few years back, you had the 2004 NJ OC report mention how Russians partnered with Lucchese controlled strip clubs. When it comes to the sex trade, strip clubs are the main thing with the LCN. Sex trafficking and providing prostitutes has been more the Russians and groups from Eastern Europe. Obviously those interests will intersect. The Gambino bust, involving the Danny Marino crew's running girls, was definitely the exception to the rule. Massage parlors seem to be mainly an Asian racket. Porn is largely passe, though porn shops are still a favorite target of mob shakedowns.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/23/15 01:16 PM

Decavalcante capo Charles Stagno was caught running a cocaine and escort ring.I think that the Mafia is where can make money while low-level prostitution (girls forced into prostitution, even after becoming slaves of heroin as in the movie Taken) is a Russians, Chinese and Albanian thing as I think that in the luxurious escorts or stripclubs rings there is still some wiseguys that are involved.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/23/15 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Decavalcante capo Charles Stagno was caught running a cocaine and escort ring.I think that the Mafia is where can make money while low-level prostitution (girls forced into prostitution, even after becoming slaves of heroin as in the movie Taken) is a Russians, Chinese and Albanian thing as I think that in the luxurious escorts or stripclubs rings there is still some wiseguys that are involved.

Good post, Furio. Like I said earlier, if anything it's a peripheral involvement involving the girls who work in the high-end strip joints who prostitute themselves on the side. If that's the case, and a wiseguy owns the club, OF COURSE he's gonna grab a piece, especially if she's banging the guy on the premises.

But the BIG money is in the human trafficking (which is a fucking disgraziata, by the way), and the Russians, Asians and Eastern Europeans seem to have no compunctions about kidnapping teenage girls after bringing them to America with false promises. And THESE are the animals who need to be targeted by the Feds.

Now I'm not implying that the Feds should quit going after traditional LCN. But to me, the priority should be to save young women from kidnapping and forced prostitution as opposed to arresting a bunch of geriatric bookmakers. Call me fucking crazy. But that's just me.
Posted By: azguy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/23/15 08:41 PM

They should be all over massage parlors and running call-girls, the time for that if you get caught is nothing compared to drugs...
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/23/15 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: azguy
They should be all over massage parlors and running call-girls, the time for that if you get caught is nothing compared to drugs...

It's too late now, though. In New York, anyway. The Asians, Russians and other Eastern Europeans have that racket sewn up. And they're not afraid of the traditional Italian-American mob. Not at all. Because most of that stuff is centered in the outer boroughs, where they now outnumber the Italians.

The Italian Americans left in that world have the right idea. Traditional book and shy, coupled with a legit place of business to wash their money. It's working. Jumping into running hookers and enslaving underage girls would be suicide for them. Because at the end of the day, the Feds would STILL rather prosecute them than any other criminal demographic.

And again, I'm just talking about New York. I don't know (or care lol) what goes on in Boston or Chicago.
Posted By: cheech

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/24/15 02:38 PM

LD Clubs....shhhh shhh
Posted By: mikeyballs211

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:28 AM

Thanks for the reply guys..I kinda thought it was peripheral shit via strip clubs and such but didnt know bout the chicago hooker stuff

Pb-its astonishing the waste of tax payer funds on lcn when like u said russians and asian oc is engaged in human trafficking on our own soil..wtf is wrong w the feds its not even close how much more depraved and serious of a crime that is compared to union corruption and gambling by the italians

You guys mentioned porns ties to the mob, was wondering does anyone know of current wiseguys involved in porn production? Its big in NV and fla now bc of Cali cracking down on forcing guys to wear rubbers while other states dont have that law
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: azguy
They should be all over massage parlors and running call-girls, the time for that if you get caught is nothing compared to drugs...

It's too late now, though. In New York, anyway. The Asians, Russians and other Eastern Europeans have that racket sewn up. And they're not afraid of the traditional Italian-American mob. Not at all. Because most of that stuff is centered in the outer boroughs, where they now outnumber the Italians.

The Italian Americans left in that world have the right idea. Traditional book and shy, coupled with a legit place of business to wash their money. It's working. Jumping into running hookers and enslaving underage girls would be suicide for them. Because at the end of the day, the Feds would STILL rather prosecute them than any other criminal demographic.

And again, I'm just talking about New York. I don't know (or care lol) what goes on in Boston or Chicago.



pizza which is the difference between LCN and Asians, Russians, Albanians?

LCN alternating white-collar crimes to blue collar, you see an Albanian who has to do with unions? and the numbers are nothing, Rudaj in a meeting with the gambinos, who came with 20 men and Rudaj have to threaten to blow up the room with the gas to avoid being killed.
The russian/albanian ecc are beasts, murderous sociopaths reared in poverty , while the American Mafia is more sophisticated; enslaving girls and force to prostitute on the street, are street crime with many risks, when books and shy have less risk and make more and the cops turn a blind eye. and however also The FBI is opening the eyes on the east criminals.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:29 PM

Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
and however also The FBI is opening the eyes on the east criminals.

The Eastern Europeans are, without a doubt, on the Fed's radar now. The crackdown will really begin when Brooklyn becomes so gentrified that a hipster girl from the midwest gets turned out by a gorilla from Brighton Beach named Yuri. Unfortunately, that's what it sometimes takes to get the attention of American law enforcement.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:38 PM

In an episode of the wire, I remember they said that RICO can't be used against blacks but only against Italians, Russians and Latinos, or something.
Posted By: TheKillingJoke

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

The crackdown will really begin when Brooklyn becomes so gentrified that a hipster girl from the midwest gets turned out by a gorilla from Brighton Beach named Yuri.


Is it becoming that bad in the US as well? lol

It's the same in Western Europe though. In any larger European city many of the working class suburbs have to undergo a severe process of gentrification, where the older traditional pubs -which were sometimes rather grimy, but that did add character- are literally bulldozed to the ground and replaced with stereotypical hipster bars serving stuff like vegan carrot cake or Fair Trade cucumber juice.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
In an episode of the wire, I remember they said that RICO can't be used against blacks but only against Italians, Russians and Latinos, or something.

Eh, to be fair they use it plenty in gang-related cases. It just doesn't make the same headlines. But if you go to the DOJ website and check the press releases, you'll find that gangs are charged with RICO quite a bit.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
In an episode of the wire, I remember they said that RICO can't be used against blacks but only against Italians, Russians and Latinos, or something.

Eh, to be fair they use it plenty in gang-related cases. It just doesn't make the same headlines. But if you go to the DOJ website and check the press releases, you'll find that gangs are charged with RICO quite a bit.


Exatly I don't understand why said such things in the series ?
Posted By: blacksheep

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 06:26 PM

I'm just posting here to push the 'if you were in the mob' thread one step closer to the bottom. Plus this is a pretty cool thread anyway

It is a funny distinction tho between massage parlors and whore houses. It's not like anyone is really going in for a back rub. Seems like playing with semantics to me
Posted By: flattax

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 07:18 PM

Or "semen"tics! Ahum.....
Posted By: Girlie

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: flattax
Or "semen"tics! Ahum.....


That was hard to swallow. But I always do.

That's what you get when you start. wink
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/25/15 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
The crackdown will really begin when Brooklyn becomes so gentrified that a hipster girl from the midwest gets turned out by a gorilla from Brighton Beach named Yuri.


Sooner than later by the look of things in BK...
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/26/15 12:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Girlie
Originally Posted By: flattax
Or "semen"tics! Ahum.....


That was hard to swallow. But I always do.

That's what you get when you start. wink


Classy

Not mob related but on the subject of prostitution two Asian owned massage parlors just got shut down for prostitution, one is down the street from where I live.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/26/15 12:48 AM

Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87
Originally Posted By: Girlie
Originally Posted By: flattax
Or "semen"tics! Ahum.....


That was hard to swallow. But I always do.

That's what you get when you start. wink


Classy

Vassar.
Posted By: blacksheep

Re: mafia prostitution ? - 03/26/15 01:07 AM

Hey that's the only thing poughkeepsie has to be proud of
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