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Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/14/15 03:47 PM

A convicted hit man who killed for the Mexican Mafia and is serving decades in state prison was given a police escort to a meeting in downtown Los Angeles to address a group of local police chiefs and wealthy business leaders, authorities acknowledged.

Sources said the purpose behind the appearance of Rene Enriquez was to give first-hand insight to the group about the inner-workings of the criminal enterprise. Enriquez, who is known as "Boxer," worked his way up from enforcer to shot caller in the organization also known as La Eme before his arrest and conviction. He is currently serving two 20-to-life sentences for murder.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jailed-mafia-hit-man-gets-lapd-escort-meet-l-business-n295841



Jerry Brown has to decide whether he should be set free, despite the fact he is serving two life sentences for murder. A decision has to be made by Feb. 22.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/...-291815701.html
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/14/15 04:23 PM

I've read boxers book its pretty good.. I think chris blatchford wrote it, he used to reseach gangs for the news and shit..
Kind of scary how all of the eme shot callers look like dumb cholo gangbangers.. But in reality they are very very smart, well read and educated(I guess when you're doing life in the shu, 23hr a day lock down in pelican bay you have a lot of time on your hands to better yourself and do a ton of reading). If you watch the youtube video of one of his debriefings I was shocked at hell well spoken he is..
Another thing that makes it strange I think is that for a time when he was a child he was raised in an upper middle class white suburb that's actually 10mins up the fwy from where I grew up..I'm shocked they're even thinking about letting him out. The violence he speaks of in his book, especially when he was locked up is pretty savage.. But I guess if they will cut sammy the bull a deal when he's got 19 murders, they will make a deal with anyone..
For these guys being fairly intelligent and well read none of them can seem to get the needle out of their arm.. Literally the whole upper echelon of la eme are all heroin addicts..and they keep using even when serving life in solitary..
For controlling much of the heroin distribution in southern california for all the hispanic street gangs you would think they would see what an absolute mess that stuff turns your life into by seeing all their junkie customers that they would never touch the stuff.. But they fucking love the junk.. Plus its breaking a huge common sense rule if you're a dealer.. Don't get high on your own supply.. Horrible for business.
I would recommend his book if anyone is interested. Its a good read and gives first hand insight into how trecherous that lifestyle is.. I think its called the black hand.. By chris blatchford.
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/16/15 04:24 PM

Yea I read his book. It was a very interesting read.
I find myself fascinated with the gangs and the cartels just like I am with the mob.
Posted By: jasonSP

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/16/15 10:02 PM

Yes I have the book as well, very well written. Enriquez's life early on was mostly suburban from what he says in the book if anyone from the area know's about that local gang artesia 13 they had a lot of big names who came up in that area if anyone has more info that would be cool
Posted By: JerseyShine

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 04:05 AM

Never knew until recently that Boxer was a rapist. Evidently he will have to register as a sex offender upon release...how does that work if you are in WitSec?
Posted By: tiger84

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: dsbaloo

Literally the whole upper echelon of la eme are all heroin addicts..and they keep using even when serving life in solitary..
For controlling much of the heroin distribution in southern california for all the hispanic street gangs you would think they would see what an absolute mess that stuff turns your life into by seeing all their junkie customers that they would never touch the stuff.. But they fucking love the junk.. Plus its breaking a huge common sense rule if you're a dealer.. Don't get high on your own supply.. Horrible for business.
I would recommend his book if anyone is interested. Its a good read and gives first hand insight into how trecherous that lifestyle is.. I think its called the black hand.. By chris blatchford.


Yeah but these guys are in jail for life so i dont fault them for becoming heroin additcts can you image the depression you would have knowing you would never get out of prison.
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 08:35 PM

Yea I was surprised to see how many of them were on herion. Especially most of the upper echelon. But like stated above I'm sure depression sets in when you know there is no way out of jail the rest of your life.
Most of them were all doing it on the streets before they got into jail so you can't use that excuse of why they started it but why they continued to do it.
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 08:59 PM

How can they possibly get the steady supply and the amount they need to maintain a H habit ? On the out side with all kinds of stuff to do each day, they get into a 20 bag day habit(or more) .In the joint they must want/need some constantly.
Then if they do not have it they start getting sick and can not go to the corner to grab a bunny...
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 09:30 PM

Yea in the book it talks about some of them getting dope sick from not having what they usually do. But it also says that it wasn't that hard for them to access it when they needed it.
Posted By: VetteZR1

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 09:37 PM

Amish Mob is a forced to be wrckoned with. power wise i think is
genovese, gambino, amish mob (close 2nd), Lucchese, Bonanno, and Colombo. The main character is a modern day Gotti. Wouldnt wanna fuck with him!!
Posted By: VetteZR1

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 09:39 PM

Nah but seriously...show is HILARIOUS!!
Posted By: Malandrino

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
Yea I was surprised to see how many of them were on herion. Especially most of the upper echelon. But like stated above I'm sure depression sets in when you know there is no way out of jail the rest of your life.
Most of them were all doing it on the streets before they got into jail so you can't use that excuse of why they started it but why they continued to do it.


That IS surprising. And I guess you're right, the joint gets to you. I can imagine I'd probably want to spend the rest of my life as high as possible most of the time if I was serving a life sentence without parole.
As for the drugs I doubt that's ever a problem especially for them. They don't joke around for nothing when they say it's even easier to get stuff on the inside than out of the can.
Posted By: dsbaloo

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/17/15 10:37 PM

theres a funny part in the book where I think him and his celly, or the guy next to his cell who is also high ranking member of eme and theyre out of dope and are dope sick as fuck and I think they had to wait like 2 weeks of dying til they got more dope.. and they were saying the whole time how they were never going to go through it again and how they weren't going to get high anymore... but then the stuff arrived and they got loaded.
Posted By: mackinblack007

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 02:00 AM

They get golf ball size gobs of heroin in legal mail, if it doesnt come, somebody on the outside gets wacked, plus guards bring it in, its very lucrative, has anybody here even been dope sick? its its the worst in jail.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
Yea I was surprised to see how many of them were on herion. Especially most of the upper echelon. But like stated above I'm sure depression sets in when you know there is no way out of jail the rest of your life.
Most of them were all doing it on the streets before they got into jail so you can't use that excuse of why they started it but why they continued to do it.


A lot of the prison gangs are run by guys like that, got nothing to lose and want to live as comfortably as possible whilst in jail for the rest of their lives.
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 08:51 PM

Yes in the mail and also shoving it up their ass.
But it definetly amazes me how much contraband makes it into the prisons. Even the maximum security boss but where there is money to be made there is no shortage of people trying to make it.
Posted By: phillyloves

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 10:58 PM

Well there is an infirmary onsite I'm sure there are doctor's prescribing meds | prob anything to keep the inmates quiet... as far as sneaking herion up their a$$es that is very dangerous there is a main vein there that leads right up to the heart imagine the bag /balloon whatever rupturing...
Posted By: phillyloves

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 11:01 PM

unless it's brought in looking like black tar I'm thinking it would then have to be heated then inhaled... I'm thinking the entire cell block would be high by then
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: phillyloves
Well there is an infirmary onsite I'm sure there are doctor's prescribing meds | prob anything to keep the inmates quiet... as far as sneaking herion up their a$$es that is very dangerous there is a main vein there that leads right up to the heart imagine the bag /balloon whatever rupturing...


Yes I understand that but how about when mules swallow 76 balloons of pure cocaine or they put a prison shank or knife up their ass. It happens more then you realize. Just another risk to take for money and pleasure.

I think it's funny when they get caught swallowing balloons and stuff in prison because the officers have to sit and wait for them to shit it out. 24 hour a day watch until it comes out the downside lol.
Posted By: phillyloves

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 11:15 PM

Alfonso's girl thanks for posting this link very interesting read and video... feel sorry for Boxer... he won't last long inside once the other cartel member's start thinking he ratted...
which they will after the article stated...

"Sources said the purpose behind the appearance of Rene Enriquez was to give first-hand insight to the group about the inner-workings of the criminal enterprise. Enriquez, who is known as "Boxer," worked his way up from enforcer to shot caller in the organization also known as La Eme before his arrest and conviction. He is currently serving two 20-to-life sentences for murder"
Posted By: phillyloves

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/18/15 11:19 PM

lmao
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/19/15 05:57 AM

Phillyloves, Rene Enriquez flipped in 2002. He's a well known rat and nothing happened so far.
Posted By: phillyloves

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/19/15 08:51 PM

I haven't read the book CleanBandit but thanks for the info he is locked in a cell with a bunch of men though right?? Doesn't sound like that pleasant of a scenario... I mean maybe if he was like 80...
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 08:13 AM

He's in PC, phillyloves. He's there with other AB turncoats and other EME turncoats. I read in his book that he had frequent meetings with active EME members that considered flipping, however I'm not so sure of that. You never know, though.

Rene's an interesting character by all appearances. As a few people have already mentioned, the entire upper echelon of both Mexican Mafia and Aryan Brotherhood is filled with drug addicts. You guys have to understand that these guys aren't your average mafiosis. They're kids who grew up in gang neighborhoods and got into the fast lifestyle(that's even more brutal than the Mafia's) very young. Rene himself mentioned he started using crack cocaine, I believe it was, when he was 13-14 years old. Others are much like him.

In his book, it's also written that Rene suffered several break downs while in PC, he just couldn't give it up that easily.


As for the rape thing... Are you guys seriously that surprised about it? It's prison. Rape is a common thing there(at least in California I believe, from all the things I read), however it's kept... Sort of "in the dark" since the official EME rules say that no homosexual acts can be performed.


Because of the no homosexual acts thing, several consultants of the movie "American Me" were killed, some of them were EME heavyweights(such as 'Rocky' Luna), because in the movie it was portrayed that an EME legend, 'Cheyenne' Cadena was raped in juvenile delinquents center. That was a major blow to EME members' egos, because if that was the case, Cadena would never be allowed to join.
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 10:23 AM

I know they were hassling Edward James olmos the lead actor. Can't remember if they were trying to extort him but I know they were pissed about the whole getting raped scene.
The white guy in the movie was supposed to portray joe Morgan right?
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 10:59 AM

They did hassle Edward James Olmos to the point he considered bailing LA. Rene was one of the Mexican Mafia members(alongside with 'Huero Shy' Shyrock and 'Pee Wee' Aguirre) who got the script of the movie beforehand and warned Olmos of possible issues coming up because of it. 'Pee Wee' Aguirre, who is one of the alleged shooters of 'Rocky' Luna, who, as I already mentioned, served as a consultant apparently tried to shake Olmos down for 150k.

And yeah. Joe Morgan in return tried to sue Olmos, however the lawsuit failed.
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 12:36 PM

Very true bandit. Thanks for confirming that for me about joe Morgan. I was almost certain it was based on him. Just making sure.
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 02:25 PM

Mexican Mafia as an organization to me is fascinating, they also had some connections to Italian mobsters. After all, they did start using the name "Mafia" to install fear between the inmates. And for Spanish, they use "La mano negra", aka "The black hand", which is their symbol. As we all know, the black handers were original Italian gangsters in USA.

Here's a picture of two Mexican Mafia members and a member of Gambinos.

L t R: Rafael "Chispas" Sandoval, Jimmy Capola and Robert "Robot" Salas.
Posted By: getthesenets

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 05:00 PM



same story as American Me.....with better music,worse actors, longer running time and unintentionally funnier
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 08:37 PM

I think that movie is on netflix or amazon. Or maybe both I forget. Have not seen it though.
Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: CleanBandit


You guys have to understand that these guys aren't your average mafiosis. They're kids who grew up in gang neighborhoods and got into the fast lifestyle(that's even more brutal than the Mafia's) very young. Rene himself mentioned he started using crack cocaine, I believe it was, when he was 13-14 years old. Others are much like him.



A hundred years ago this is EXACTLY what cosa nostra was. Most were petty thieves and did small time shit just like these gangsters. Same shit different ethnicity. Prohibition turned cosa nostra HOODS into more sophisticated criminals but there really is no difference between the American mafia a hundred years ago and these gangbangers of today.

I grew up with a lot of cholos (or vatos) that were bused into our schools. These kids were smarter than shit academically but by junior high school most of them just sniffed paint and sold drugs and committed crimes. A lot of them got pinched for selling drugs and are in prison doing 15 yrs for it and some are dead. One of my friends had to move and change his name just saw him last summer went to a concert with him. His father was a big time drug dealer, is in prison. They are like what cosa nostra was years ago. If you are getting in the way of them making money you are DEAD. No mercy.
Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 09:56 PM

Thanks for contributing to this thread. Really great posts.

This rat "Boxer" gives class lectures at UCI University of Irvine via video.

Will he actually walk free?
Posted By: Malandrino

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl


I grew up with a lot of cholos (or vatos) that were bused into our schools. These kids were smarter than shit academically but by junior high school most of them just sniffed paint and sold drugs and committed crimes. A lot of them got pinched for selling drugs and are in prison doing 15 yrs for it and some are dead. One of my friends had to move and change his name just saw him last summer went to a concert with him. His father was a big time drug dealer, is in prison. They are like what cosa nostra was years ago. If you are getting in the way of them making money you are DEAD. No mercy.


Damn. Like Sonny says in "A Bronx Tale," there's nothing sadder in life than wasted talent.

...except for a wasted talent agent. tongue
Posted By: PhillyMob

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl
Thanks for contributing to this thread. Really great posts.

This rat "Boxer" gives class lectures at UCI University of Irvine via video.

Will he actually walk free?


I would be astonished if he walked. But the government plays by it's own rules and they do as they please so who knows.
Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/20/15 11:56 PM

This is what I'm talkin about when I say that these are the ppl I grew up with.

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-08/local/me-555_1_lab-equipment

And

http://m.ocregister.com/articles/perfecto-172222-placentia-linda.html
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/21/15 03:40 AM

Alfosgirl, you are to a certain extent around about Cosa Nostra and today's gangbangers. However, I believe that today's gangbangers use a lot more drugs which cause them to be more violent.


As for Boxer walking out... I don't think so. He's serving what? 2-3 life sentences + added on years. He had been an informant for 13 years now. We'll see, I don't know much about the deals and whatnot so I can't really speculate, but I'd guess that he'd be out by now if it was going to happen.
Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/21/15 01:14 PM

Just read that Boxer is not going to walk free.


Gov. Jerry Brown rejected parole late Friday for a former Mexican Mafia killer who left the prison gang and has spent more than a decade cooperating with authorities and speaking at law enforcement conferences.

Brown acknowledged the valuable information Rene "Boxer" Enriquez has provided authorities, but said in a statement that the "positive steps" were ultimately "outweighed by negative factors that demonstrate he remains unsuitable for parole."

"When considered as a whole, I find the evidence shows that he currently poses an unreasonable danger to society if released from prison," Brown wrote.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-rene-enriquez-parole-decision-20150220-story.html
Posted By: Alfanosgirl

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/21/15 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
Alfosgirl, you are to a certain extent around about Cosa Nostra and today's gangbangers. However, I believe that today's gangbangers use a lot more drugs which cause them to be more violent.


You are right. In the LA areas, Fresno, Hemet, and Santa Ana here in Orange Co there is more violence but it is getting better. It was a lot worse in the 1990's with the violence and drugs. Then they starting locking up generations of gang bangers. If you were affiliated with a gang and you were a teenager you'd get locked up until you were 25. That's how they solved the gang problem in southern California in the mid 90's.

You would be surprised to know that most of these guys I grew up with were NOT troublemaker types. This was the early to mid 80's when you still fought like men with your fists or a knife not with guns like cowards. These cholos did well in school, played sports, respected the teachers and staff, and blended in with the rest of us for the most part. There were maybe 3 or 4 that caused trouble. The ones dealing drugs were level headed guys who did not do the drugs they were selling. (A few did) It was a family business. Their fathers, uncles, older brothers brought them in once they were old enough to act like men. It was strictly weed and cocaine and "whack" which was pcp. Every so often there would be a turf war and things would go down but for the most part things were pretty peaceful.
When people started doing crystal meth and heroin then things changed. I wasn't around these guys then but heard that they missed the days when everyone was happy with a dime of weed and/or an 8 ball lol

Edit: AND I need to add that some did commit crimes can't forget that

Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: Former La "M" Member (Mexican Mafia) RAT - 02/22/15 01:08 AM

Blood In Blood Out is a pretty good film, I thought. The white character in that film is also based on Joe Pegleg Morgan. Its a lower quality film compared to American Me. But I think its a quality movie.
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