Vinny Basciano!

Whats the full story on this guy? Nobody knows for sure when he was made, early 90s? He had been an associate for the bonnannos since his late teens and was big trins driver!

According to Gotti jnr he first met Vinny in prison in 2005 and had never met him or knew much about him when they were on the street! So he must of been pretty low profile! It appears his ego went sky high after massino was jailed and started to restructure the family and order hits without the consent of the 3 capo panel!

According to Massino, basciano became so flamboyant and cocky, the Geneovese people asked permission to clip him!

Also,Vinny called everybody Bo! Hey Bo, how ya doin! This is what Gravano,called everybody too! Bo! Is this a bronx/brooklyn thing?

I don't know about Vinny ,but the Bo! thing was what guys a little older then I would call you like it was a nick name.Guys 70ish..
And no not only a N.Y. thing..

Basciano was made in 1990 in the same ceremony as Richard cantarella and Robert Lino

Try the search feature, Calcestruzzo. Vinny has been discussed here ad nauseam over the years. And most of it is just nonsense and regurgitated lies from Dom Cicale and his puppet master.

And to the longtime members, everyone knows where I stand on this topic. I really don't need the agita today. Just a few personal issues .

likewise PB , the girls r driving me crazy today , think I may clip one of they keep arguing

Basciano is another example of a guy with good leadership skills. He was also pretty street wise.
He was basically a true gangster and earned like a gangster. Unlike someone like Alite who basically bullied weak guys and stole their drugs. ( not that gangsters dont steal).
Basciano was an interesting guy. In an excerpt from his book, he was pinched for heroin( i think) in the late 80's or early 90's. Took it to trial and won a fed case which is very rare. During breaks in the trial, he would get coffee in the court house cafeteria and give $100 tips while on trial. I thought that was kind of funny.
How could you not like the guy ????? Unless of course he killed someone you knew.

Didn't his dope have stamps on it like "Goodfellas" and/or "Godfather?"

Anyone ever try it? If so how was it?

Dom that's a good fact. So Vinny was made in 1990 when gotti was at his end and peak of his power. Read boby lino was the shooter of the kid in his car thinking he was going to his induction ceremony. He accidentally shot a gambinos guys kid. So think anthony spero was acting with sal vitales help. Must have been the greatest year 90 in Vinny life.

Bob lino shot the kid January 1990 probaly got his button very soon after or maybe rite after killing that guy. Am I wrong that's the guy who thought he was gonna get made but gotti wanted him dead cause he fucked up. Making the bonannos kill one of there up n comers was such a gotti move just showing whose boss.

Beating that case was an absolute miracle. He said goodbye to his wife, kids and friends the night before it was over. No one was more surprised than he was when he beat it.

This was around '94 because it was when he just moved back to Throggs Neck after a year or so in Westchester. So he was basically playing with house money for ten years (he was indicted for the murders in '04, and surely would have gotten twenty on the heroin case if he didn't beat it).


Blue Thunder.


Please, no junk talk. You put that shit in your arms and you pretty much deserve an early grave (not you, personally, buddy, just a peeve of mine ).


Not remotely. Vinny made more in the '80s. He had everything from video stores to sandwich shops to bars to his social club all along Tremont. From Westchester Square all the way up to the Marina del Rey. That's a lot of ground.

His bad luck started when he got the button. It usually does. That's why it's such a catch-22, especially these days.

But 1990 that when chins under indictment and gottis realy growing his dick around. He was probaly saying no to a lot of guys that year. The cantrealla guy I think was family tony mirra Joe damico and a few others little Italy's guys and links uncles are all made and close with gotti so I'm guessing some one in the Bronx made a good pitch to gotti in the ravenite or maybe a friend of locascio.

I do know that in certain family's that getting that button is a curse.And these guys never think it is going to go bad just cos of it.
Most of the time it is the guys that have there button(same family) or wants it that brings them down...

There was also some talk that they mightve gotten to a juror, any truth to that you think? Them outright beating the case just sounds to good to be true. But on the other hand feds seemed to have had a hard time directly tying Basciano to the Heroin and i guess crazier things have happened.

Pmac did you just say you through your d*** around..lol

As my man Serp already stated, people saying "Bo" is not just a NY thing. People in South Jersey and Philly use that everyday.

You're guessing wrong. Vinny's best friend outside the Bonanno's was Prisco. And if anything, it was the Westside who helped him move along the Bonanno ranks faster. And in hindsight, Vinny should have stuck it out and waited for his button with them instead. Prisco could have easily pried him away from Fat Patty and gotten him his button a year or so later. But Vinny didn't want to wait.

Those are facts, pmac. That's not Google or books. I like you. You're a nice kid. So please don't take my post the wrong way. But as you know, Vinny is a very touchy subject with me .

I'm dying over here lol

Nah, because the government did get some other convictions in that case.

Amen to that, Serp. Some guys thrive after getting their patch. But not all of them .

No serp.on phone write now phone auto corrects if I don't proof ride shit comes out weird. Throwing his dick around like throwing his weight around same thing. He made the decav family do hits for the gambinos. He tried to tell Vic oreana to tell carmine persico he's done. Started putting stanfa boss of philly same as up boston-providence. He was wrestling chins control of other families if you really take a look. No pizza I dont give a shit I like to read. But gotti n gravano looking at inductions lists in 1990 they were trying to take over. Bruins are getting there ass wipt. Tyler seguin revenge.

Pizza you have a guess who Vinny capo was in 1990 think I read fat patty came one a little later after massino came home. Any bb book readers that book about massimo is a must read great book basically the same author put won out on Vinny good to just not snuff details. Vinny's brother in-law/underboss for a 100years didn't flip on him and 100 other guys to fill his book.

Man, I fucking hate that auto-correct on the phone and on the tablet. HATE it .


I know you do, and I applaud you for that. Reading builds knowledge, and knowledge builds power.


Yes, they tried. But how'd that work out for them?

My humble opinion: If Gotti was on the street for another year or two, Chin succeeds in killing him, installs Jimmy and Danny with the Gambinos, backs the Bronx/Harlem faction of the Luccheses, and has 60 percent of the Commission, lock, stock and barrel.

But fate wasn't too kind to Vince, either. So don't think I'm blind to any of that.

Pmac I got ya ,I tried posting a few times on the phone,don't know how you put up with that.
And i will hit you with a little info on the Persico, Orena , war . Even mob bosses can bury the hatchet back in aug Orena grandson was staying at Carmine and Joyce house upstate ,now thats progress.
I don't want to say the young adults name cos he is not in the life (but he did act it...

That's true. Massino didn't beef up the Bronx crew until he came home.

Patty was the first official Bonanno skipper here in years. Because the Bronx was always dominated by the Genovese, Lucchese and Gambino families. The Colombos have always been non-existent here, except for a very informal partnership between Greg DePalma and Richie Fusco, who are both dead now anyway.

Long story short, Vinny's first skipper was an old Knickerbocker guy. Take from that what you will .

Your friends out at the bar even posted on your phone right? That was funny

Yes Cheech it was a drunk night not just the phone....

I know "Blue Thunder" was the name brand that got the most attention and gave the case it's name but I could swear I read somewhere some had stamps like "Goodfellas."

I mean obviously there were multiple stamps, a conspiracy that big and long running would have had dozens I would imagine.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/nyregion/at-the-fast-turning-hub-of-the-heroin-trade.html


"In a drive through the South Bronx, Ms. Cruz and the man she lives with, Clarence Dubois, a 25-year-old former crack dealer, pointed out spots where heroin called "Blue Thunder," "God Father," and "Good Fella" were being sold. The police say some packets of "Good Fella" were also found to contain fentanyl. "

I thought I read it in a book for some reason but this is the one source I could find right now. This article is from 1991...heroin stamp artists tend to be quite topical.

Interesting PB. I didnt know vinny was close to prisco. How did those two get together? I know oc is a small world but still.

And Basicano, he always had an ego, before Massino went to prison and after. He was like a poor man's John Gotti, but a bit smarter. It wasn't to be flashy or cocky that he changed up the admission after he became acting boss. He had no choice, the rest of the admin had all turned rat. He had to replace them with guys he trusted, which were men he was close to. That's why he bumped down Tartaglione after suspicions of him being a rat, after coming back from Florida all of a sudden. And it hurt him also because Tartaglione had already decided to begin recording before than.

Throggs Neck is a small, tight knit area, and they were both based in Westchester Square at one time (although Angelo lived in Yonkers for many years while his kids were growing up).

But Angelo loved it here. He threw a huge spring dance every year at the Marina del Rey. Harder ticket than opening day at Yankee Stadium lol.

Vinny and Angelo hit it off. Simple as that. And Angelo had the pull to sit down and trade for Vinny. No doubt in my mind. But Vinny was a young guy at the time, and he wanted his button yesterday. Can't blame him (if that's your life's ambition, anyway). But I'll bet he wishes he waited now. He'd more than likely be a Westside skipper today. But now I'm going off track, sooooo .

Vinny inherited that mutt. But you're not far off base with the rest of your post.

Vinny's big sin was Cicale. Plain and simple. Vinny had a good heart (for a mob guy, I have no illusions about what he was capable of), and he was forever adopting strays.

Forget Massino and the jailhouse tapes. If it wasn't for that lying, murderous, scumbag Cicale, there's a 50/50 chance that Vinny's watching television on Revere Avenue right now.

Cicale has more bodies on him than Vinny. Just like Sammy had more bodies on him than Gotti. And there's something fundamentally wrong with giving deals to guys who have killed more people than the guys they're putting away.

And don't get me wrong, the world needs law and order. But put them away fair and square.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eQcPxvoMlc

this guy seems like a low down dog, trying to act as if he was really something, just another rat.

As a general rule the more you talk yourself up the less you have it.

Make of that regards DC what you will.

pizzaboy can you name some of them? not doubting you, just interested in which stores. was he behind "Ruffles"? it was a strip bar. did he have anything to do with amerigo restaurant?

also do you know the name of the italian cafe past the interboro theater, i can't remember it. played scopa and briscolla there a few times.

No. But Ruffles didn't last very long anyway. St. Frances de Chantal was instrumental in getting it shut down. It went right back to being the Silver Edge after that. It's a small supermarket now.

But Vinny's beauty parlor was right next door years later. That's a party/wedding favor store now. Tosca has most of that corner now. And Amerigo's was a square Mom and Pop joint for fifty years. It's a hobby store next to a Radio Shack today.


The club that was adjacent to Gerry Sciascia's jewelry store? That was his, by the way. I honestly don't recall the name. But it might come back to me.

The Interboro was a dump. But it was our dump. I miss it lol.

that might have been the place, my memory is faded bit.

yeah the interboro was nothing to brag about, but like you say it was ours......saw pink floyd the Wall there

morris park was where i mostly hung out though.

I tend to not become actively involved in topics on the American mafia -which is kinda ironic of course since the board is all about the American mob- it's just because I don't have anything additional to offer. I'm not from the US, let alone New York, so topics like these I mostly just read out of curiosity and interest. But on Basciano everything I've read and personally believed, on this board and in other sources, can only lead to my conclusion that he really is a stand up guy.

To his very core.

Which makes it all the more painful to read some of the more absurd claims and fictious stories that make their way across the internet, which is able to introduce you to some good information but which also makes it possible for just as many people with hidden agendas to bomb you with their crock of shit. Because from what I've read Basciano was well respected, and not only among Cosa Nostra circles. And I know we're talking about gangsters, but being well respected still is a testament of someone's character.

And Massino's claims... A lot of them, to me, seem dodgy.

Of course. I've never sugarcoated that part of the man's life. You kill people, you go to jail. You play, you pay, and all that. But Cicale is a much worse human being than Vinny ever was. We were neighbors here in Throggs Neck for years. His boys grew up with my daughters (and I make no excuses for his boys' decisions either).

I'm back in the Bronx on property business for a few days. Check my ip thing, see if I'm not posting from less than a hundred yards from where Vinny lived with his family back then (not that I have anything to prove).

Yes, Vinny's a criminal. But there are far worse people who the government has gleefully given get-out-of-jail-free cards. And Cicale is one of the worst. He's the scum of the earth, born to White Trash, and that's just how he'll die. Hopefully in the fucking street like some of his victims.

I'm sure this has brought up before but, was Vinny's father connected or any of his uncles etc?

No.

Thank you

The fact that you hear people say that these guys are the worst possible human beings.Then you will hear others say he was is a great guy is all true.
Just in all of our lives you have good and bad,some better then others.This is what this world is.I hope nobody thinks that the guys that run this country are any better then them is bullshit..
There are many great men that are in that life,and many that are not.

Things are seldom black and white. Of course there are some plain lowlives around, but there are also many people who make bad choices in life that also have more than one good side to them.

As for Cicale, I don't have the right to call him out for being a rat. But what I do find despicable is that he seems to be one of those typical guys that keeps badmouthing and keeps inventing fictious stories, even long after the trial is done, to use that for his own succes.

I agree he's a bottom of the bottom feeders

There's so much herion In the Bronx. My Spanish friends go there to section 8 projects 100 $ a month rent there's 2 kilos of shit there worth 200k. them domicans are there 2000 mafia. I surprised the mafia itsnt more involved. Acualy they probably buy from them to. Vito rizzuto in d.r. just ordering 1000 bricks.

Just clicked over NY daily.Lewis kasman gotti just got popped for fraud. He lives delray pb in a mansion. Is it nice? Wonder if the gov laying his rent. What a low life he gave john gotti funeral speech thing and he was informant for years having gotti in the hole for months cause his snitching sick. Read in 2005 he sees Dan Marino who must had he's spider sense tingling seen right there vim

Just clicked over NY daily.Lewis kasman gotti just got popped for fraud. He lives delray pb in a mansion. Is it nice? Wonder if the gov laying his rent. What a low life he gave john gotti funeral speech thing and he was informant for years having gotti in the hole for months cause his snitching sick. Read in 2005 he sees Dan Marino who must had he's spider sense tingling seen right there vim

It had to be fucking Delray?

When I saw the title of the thread on the other site, I thought it was one of my old nemeses here. But I'm in New York for a few days anyway .

Mizner Country Club is in west Delray, past the turnpike. We're on North Ocean Boulevard. Fuck that scumbag rat .

The mansions worth 900k so it can't be too shabby.