the guy who ran over Gotii's youngest son??

I remember reading that Gotti's youngest boy was riding some kind of moped or dirtbike around and one day shot out between cars and was run over and killed by a neighbor. He eventually put his house up for sale but ended up getting killed over it.

Was Gotti home when it happened?

Any other details? Was the guy's body found? Was there any fault by the neighbor and charges not filed because the cops hated Gotti?

It is believed that John Sr. was on a Florida vacation when John Favara was abducted and killed.

His body was discovered at the same burial site of the three bonnano captains(Giacone, trincherra, and indelicato), the bodies were found after massino flipped and led them to the site.

I believe his name was john favara, It was an accident,


the kid pulled right in front of favaras car. gotti had him killed.

I know that's the commonly referenced line, but wondering if there ws anymore to it...

also after reading the book Witsec I bet if this guy went to the feds in fear for his life I they would have told him to piss off...

I went down there to see that place. My friend made fun of me for wanting to see it calling me a gangster girl groupie. But damn it I had to see it for myself. Took a video of it and talked my friend into narrating it.

Ruby street the hole narrated


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYU1kjI6t-I

If you even talked bad about Gotti Sr. or his kid there'd be trouble coming your way. Some guy who went to the same gym as Jr. started talking shit about how he's not afraid of the Gotti's and this loud mouthed guy suffered an "accident" took a tumble down the stairs. No one saw that guy again.

yup, no doubt.

I think you'e confused, Delly. I don't think they ever found Favara's remains. And a few years ago there was a claim that Charlie Cargeglia dissolved the body in acid. But that was never proven either. As far as I know, they've never recovered any of Favara's remains at all.

True
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/massinos-tips-lead-the-fbi-to-dig-deep/8656/

Ah, you will have to forgive me, ive had a few pre superbowl cocktails.

That man was dealt with gruesomely. I know the researchers here are aware of what the informant(s) reported. I hope it's actually not true. Supposedly Gotti himself committed the act.

Strange thing to say. The Feds have an obligation to warn mobsters when their life is in danger. They had a hard on for Gotti. If a civilian like Favara went to them, they would have been too happy to listen. The sad fact is that Favara didn't take the threats against his life seriously until it was too late. He should have moved far, far away or asked to go into witness protection once he realized he was dealing with a maniac and not a grieving mother.

What I am interested to know is if Gotti wanted him dead at all. There is a school of thought that he dealt with him just to appease his wife.

The feds probably wouldn't have cared much for him because he didn't really have any dirt on Gotti, he was a civilian. They would have just told him to go to the local police and maybe they'd give Gotti a restraining order or something from him which would only make things MUCH worse because then Gotti would be very pissed thinking he's being a prick or worse yet, ratting.
There's also the school of thought that Gotti's crew acted alone and took care of him to score points with John. They say John never gave the okay but who knows.. he could have given them a look, he could have said something that sounded like an okay, there's all kinds of possibilities.
I personally think he did know/order Favara was going to get whacked which is why he went to Florida 3 days before so he could have total deniability.

The thing is, being in a position like Favara was, you never know what to do. Moving away would be seen as a guilty move and Gotti would have done EVERYTHING in his power to track him down. Going over an apologizing would have probably been just as bad, going to the cops even worse, it's a very delicate situation.

I've read in a true crime book years ago that another neighbor of the Gotti's witnessed the kidnapping of Favara. This witness owned a diner in the neighborhood. The following day, three men in suits came in and ordered coffee. Without saying anything, they drank the coffee, and stared at the owner the entire time poker faced. Obviously the implication was "you say anything, your next." When the police came to question the diner owner, he claimed he didn't see anything.

I've read some of Junior Gotti's new book and seen his episode on 60 minutes. Junior said that he believes his Father probably was involved in Favara's death. But Gotti Sr never admitted nor denied it to his son (and Junior said he refused to discuss it). His Mother, understandably, was a complete wreck over Frank's death. The same book I mentioned also claimed that on at least one occasion, Mrs. Gotti tried to attack Favara with a baseball bat. She was especially angry because not only did Favara kept driving the same car that was involved in the accident (and never bothered to fix it) but he never apologized to the Gottis (though he was told by several people, including a priest to stay out of their way). I do not know if the wife encouraged Favara's murder.

John Favara (March 4, 1929 – July 28, 1980) was the backyard neighbor of Gambino crime family godfather John Gotti, in Howard Beach, New York.

On March 18, 1980, 12-year-old Frank Gotti, the youngest son of John Gotti, darted into the street on a motorized minibike from behind a dumpster where he was struck by Favara's car and killed. Favara, 51, who lived a block behind the Gotti family, worked as a service department manager for a furniture store, Castro Convertibles in New Hyde Park, New York. He had been on his way home from work. His adopted son, Scott, was a friend of the Gotti children and had been their guest for sleepovers. He was a close childhood friend of Gambino crime family caporegime Ettore Zappi, a distant cousin of crime family patriarch Carlo Gambino. While Ettore pursued a life in organized crime, Favara remained in the legitimate world, but the two remained close.

Police found Favara was not to blame for the boy's death, which was officially ruled accidental, and no charges were ever filed against him. However, in the months after the accident, the word "Murderer" was spray-painted onto Favara's car. On May 28, Victoria Gotti, Frank's mother, attacked Favara with a metal baseball bat, sending him to the hospital. Favara decided not to press charges and planned to move out of Howard Beach.

According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), on July 28, 1980, before Favara and his family were able to move, he was shoved into a van by several men near his work. There were several witnesses to the abduction, and accounts ranged from him being beaten with a baseball bat, shot with a silenced .22 caliber pistol, or both. Accounts differ on what happened to Favara's body. One account says that while alive he was dismembered with a chainsaw and stuffed into a barrel filled with concrete and dumped in the ocean or buried on the chop shop lot somewhere.[1] Favara's wife and two sons moved out of Howard Beach, having John declared legally dead in 1983.[2][3] In November 2004, informants led the FBI to excavate a parking lot in New York City suspected to be a mob graveyard and the site of Favara's body. While two bodies were found, Favara's was not.[4]

When questioned by two detectives on Favara's disappearance, John Gotti said: "I'm not sorry the guy's missing. I wouldn't be sorry if the guy turned up dead." His wife Victoria, when questioned said: "I don't know what happened to him, but I'm not disappointed he's missing. He killed my boy."

Previously prosecutors believed Favara's remains were stuffed in a barrel of concrete and tossed off a Sheepshead Bay pier,[5] but Brooklyn federal court papers filed by federal prosecutors the week of January 5, 2009, contain allegations that mob hitman Charles Carneglia killed Favara and disposed of his body in acid.

The guy apparently rubbed the son's death in Victoria Gotti's face. Threw a loud party less than a month later, blamed the son for it. Didn't show much remorse allegedly.

Well, i wonder what would of happened if Gotti Sr ran over Favara's son.? Would Gotti of apologized or sent a few guys to warn him about pressing charges..
This was an obvious accident and by all accounts, the guy felt horrible.
I wonder if gotti felt he had to kill Favara in order not to be shown as weak. If thats the case, its totally fucked up. Either way its fucked up.
Unless the guy showed no remorse and laughed about , then i can kind of understand.

I highly doubt that. Killing this guy was just an awful thing to do. It was clearly an accident.

To be honest I think they portrayed it pretty well in the movie Gotti. I think it wasn't that different from the movie.. Gotti knew it was an accident but it was expected from a man like him, a powerful capo, to do something about it. His wife probably pressed him, his crew probably bothered him, everybody ready to take the contract and score points with him... I guess he just fell to the pressure and okayed it.

This is a little off topic but it's a question I've had for awhile. Victoria was the name of John's wife but they also named their daughter Victoria. Shouldn't she have been given the name Philomena after Johns mother? I know it isn't a strict rule that children are named after their grandparents in Italy but is naming a daughter after her mother odd? BTW -I'm not saying that any member of the Gotti family is odd - I just wanted to add that.

that daughter Victoria, and gotti jr are a pair to draw to. two black sheep. maybe they should not have been born.ones got an ego the size of manhatten, and the other is a stoolie. I hope they both howl like jackals, and moan like owls, and they both die in a dungeon. chained to the walls.

Well if that was the case, a quick death -a simple shot to the head- should have done the trick. Not smashing the guy's face with a steel bat until it resembled a raw uncooked hamburger or, as an even worse version of the story reads, going full Texas Chainsaw Massacre on the man. It was an accident. Killing the poor guy in itself was bad enough, but the apparent brutality of it all (even though no one knows what really happened) made it even worse.

I don't believe any of that personally, I doubt Gotti himself was in the same room. Gotti was in Florida with his family at the time Favara disappeared anyway.
I think Favara was just shot to death. I think probably Charlie Carnig took care of it, his version of the story should be in the book Mob Killer but I haven't read it. It can't be that accurate anyway 'cause the guy never flipped.

well going back to "what if" this guy went to the feds for protection; he had no dirt on Gotti to give and after reading Witsec which is part autobiography of the guy who ran the program forever, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell they would have let this guy into the program. NO WAY.

If anything they might have set him up with a recorder and some hair-brained plan to apologize and get a threat on record or something, and say "you go get us a good recording, we'll help ya."

Mickey is more used in the southern Italy, to give to the nephew the grandfather's name, but it's a rule that is disappearing because now have more imagination in choosing names even if sometimes exaggerates (I know a couple of surname Esposito that called her daughter Chantal, and grandparents call her Chantalla, 'cause they don't know how say the name).

For anybody who's a mafia fanboy read what happened to John Favara.

Actually frankie was the second youngest, peter was the youngest. In regards to favara we know the story. Vicky gotti twisted the story to make favara out to be a monster which was bullshit. Basically it was a wrong place wrong timr scenerio for both frankie and favara

i think you are giving gotti too much credit. This was a man who threatened to kill a associate for buying him a light gray suit instead of dark gray lol. The truth is he wanted the guy dead but he knew the feds were watching so he had to wait and create a solid alibi

Thanks Furio!

No, he was in Florida at the time. It was supposed to be his henchmen.

Clearly the accident was the fault of the Gotti boy. Part of the problem is that Favara made no effort to go talk to the Gotti family. Who knows whether this would have helped or not knowing the tempers of Gotti and his wife, but as a matter of common decency he should have made the effort. I did read somewhere that Carniglia dissolved the corpse in acid

You only have the Gottis version to support the idea that he never tried to apologize. For all we know he could have been apologizing when Vicki hit him with the baseball bat. Who knows? But I doubt it would have made much of a difference either way.

People can talk about common decency all they want but I'm sure Favara knew who John Gotti was. I bet he was petrified, like PB said though for all we know he may have apologized.

Actually he did attempt to apologize and you know what he got for it....a baseball bat to the head by that nut Vicky Gotti. You shouldnt listen to the victoria Gotti(daughter) "version" of the story because its obviously false. The truth is that it was a unfortunate accident and nobody was at fault. Unfortunetly for Favara it happened to be the son of not only a Gambino capo but a man who had temper tantrums all his life and a massive ego so it was predictable what would happen

I did not know that where was the gym exactly?

My youngest son when he was younger did not know who his real friends were. He was hanging out with Gotti jr for a while. They did go to a gym together.

It was a couple blocks from 101st ave near the Bergin in Ozone Park.

The juiceheads in that crew all worked out in the gym on Liberty Avenue by Rockaway Boulevard. I forget the name. I'm not even sure if it's there anymore.

It was in the basement of some building.

It pisses me off that a guy like Gotti can become so powerful and hold so much sway over average (read: law-abiding) citizens. Gotti, by all accounts, was a degenerate low-life, and it's a pity that he didn't die shortly after birth.
I'm surprised nobody close to Favara (a friend, a relative, etc) didn't just sneak up behind Gotti one day and invoke the biblical 'eye for an eye'; catch him alone somewhere and let him know that he is not untouchable.
That whole Favara incident was just pure evil. And it amazes me how so many of the Gotti groupies seem to overlook that one part of the Gotti saga.

Exactly. The fact that so many Mafia groupies speak of many of these guys (like Gotti) with reverence is insane.

Junior looked like the kind of guy who equated weight-lifting with being a bad*ss, the kind of guy who starts shit with a trained fighter then wakes up in the hospital several days later! LOL. Pictures of him walking around wearing a muscle shirt, with his tattoo, and his mean, scowling face, playing up that whole "I'm the son of a big-time mobster" bit. Drop Junior in the middle of Compton or Detroit and I'd bet you'd see a much better behaved Junior. LOL

Ok I'll add my 2 cents in relation to the previous posts

Favara having a loud party? Well this version of events was told by Victoria Gotti (daughter) in her book where she claimed her mother heard laughing & partying from Favara's home

Her mother went after him with a bat but missed.

Claims her father initially put it down to a tragic accident until somebody told him
(Eye witness) that Favara was speeding which changed his mind & sealed the neighbors fate

According to that scum Lewis Kasman, gotti's wife demanded he do something about it & Gotti regretted it but would never admit it

Victoria Gotti claims she was told of the persons involved & her father was not present, I'm guessing the Carneglia brothers, Gene, Angelo, Willie boy were involved

A New York cop is on record in one of the newspapers that Favara tried to apologize to the Gotti family. Favara asked the cop to stand at the street when he went to the door to offer his condolences to the Gotti's. The Gotti's would have none of it and Vicki did run him off.

Favara sent flowers to the funeral home, which were evidently thrown in the trash.

Witnesses said it was an accident, and that the kid came from between 2 cars and there was no way Favara could have prevented it from happening.

Thanks, Tony. So there you go.

from the father to the brothers to the kids and grand kids, they are all disgusting people.

Well in fairness, out of the Gotti kids Angel & Peter seem alright, you can tell in that interview they were in how honest they were with answers, whereas Vicky always fabricates & puts a spin on things. Plus her answers are always calculated & prejudiced

Peter's too dumb to be anything but good natured. But the kid's a bad gambler. And don't underestimate Angel, either. She's a true Gotti .

I have unfortunately seen John Gotti's daughter, Vicky in person up close and personal, somewhat recently, back in 2008, and let me tell everyone here this:

She was hands down the ugliest, scariest, most unattractive woman I have ever seen before in my life, she was borderline scary looking up close! She literally looked like a skeleton from The Nightmare Before Chirstmas movie with a wig on! She was in the lobby of my office building in Midtown, I'm assuming she had a meeting in my building, and the way she was talking to the people who worked the front desk was also disgusting, she was pissed that she had to check in at the front desk security of a major, iconic Midtown skyscraper in the post 9/11 world, I kid you not. It was disgusting the way she talked to the people just doing their jobs, she thought she was some kind of princess who the world should cater to.

Anyways, that's my one and only Gotti story, thought some here might enjoy.

I've seen her plenty. I thought she was trick or treating once. But it was July, soooo....

LOL @ Pizza so you know EXACTLY what I am talking about there!

Prior to that encounter I had only seen her on TV or in pictures in the newspaper and let me tell you that she is scary looking in person, terrifying.